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Nearly one-third of all the homeless people in America live in these ten cities...
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Atleast in Denver they can have obama weed
The Progressives have done such wonderful things with those cities.
Not sure exactly where Tyler got the homeless info on Mother Jones but here is the article.
The National Law Center on Homelessness and Poverty says there are 3.5 million homeless in America.
The Mother Jones Communist Worker approach to a Libertarian Finance blog.
That explains many a local trend.
Great, now we know where the host lives. Why don't they tell us where the parasites live?
When I become homeless, I will live in Key West.
Yep. The smartest homeless on this list have to be the ones in San Diego...
This super cold winter might thin out the homeless population of New York a little.
Lotta' homeless folk in Hawaii. Hawaii will buy them a one way ticket to just about anywhere else in the US, too.
Folks take it for emergencies like a death in the family. Rough homeostasis exists in the system.
Overall numbers are smaller, but percentage of homeless is pretty high.
I'm guessin gthis is part of Barry's awesome economic rekovery?
I want to wake up in a city
That never sleeps
And find I'm a number one
Top of the list
King of the hill
A number Zero one
New York because it's massive. Chicago because it's very black. DC because gov cronies love a good photo op giving a homeless guy a buck. The rest of the places because it's warm there pretty much. Doesnt take a genius to figure this shit out.
"When I become homeless, I will live in Key West."
No you won't.
Until you have actually experienced homelessness, something I did on two 'short' occasions when I was much younger, it is difficult to understand how it could happen, let alone the sense of desperation or hopelessness one has when in that situation.
Even so, I could not imagine living on the street in NYC.
Homelessness can easily happen. If you lose your "job" (not source of income, totally differen) and can't pay your rent/mortage then you too can become homeless.
The map is wrong. The Banks own all the homes, therefore 99% of America is homeless.
Well said, most people are just renting their homes from the banks until the next manufacutured downturn when the banks will claim whatever equity the "owners" built. Every 7 or so years... so we're just about due.
Nope... Banks don't own mine... Now ~ PROPERTY TAXES are a different issue...
you are still just renting....from the rent seekers.
Everyone is a renter. If you don't pay your rent (property taxes) you will be homeless, too. The homeless live rent free, those in Obamavilles (tent cities) live rent free, those living in a van down by the river live mostly rent free. It is us, the home "owners", that pay till some other chump takes over paying the rent.
CD - I imagine that your experiences would make for a very interesting article. Hearing about how someone transitioned through that time period and sharing their perspective coming out the other side would be enlightening to many. It must be extremely difficult to not succumb to that "sense of desperation or hopelessness". Kudos to you for making it through that time period.
That many of the homeless suffer from mental illnesses, drug additiction, etc. is generally well known (not saying that you do, CD- this is an unrelated comment). They used to lock them up in mental facilites but that hasn't been the case in quite a while. In one paragraph, here's basically why:
"Many assume that the advent of modern psychotropic medications was the catalyst for deinstitutionalization in the U.S. However, large numbers of patients began leaving state institutions only after new laws made unpaid patient labor illegal. In other words, when patients no longer worked for free, the economic viability of many state institutions ceased and this led to the closing of many state hospitals."
And you wonder why prisons have gotten so popular in roughly that same time period. Scratch beneath the surface of anything in this country and you see nothing but power, control and exploitation in search of cheap labor.
"That many of the homeless suffer from mental illnesses, drug additiction, etc. is generally well known "
I'm sorry to tell you; but, this is no longer true whether or not it once was...
Millions of homeless people are squatting in the NY/Newark/Atlantic City/Philly metro regions and surrounding suburbs.
They can't be thrown out of the homes they long since stopped paying mortgages and taxes, etc. on or the banks will require recapitalization all over again.
"That many of the homeless suffer from mental illnesses, drug additiction, etc. is generally well known (not saying that you do, CD- this is an unrelated comment)."
No insult received. However I most certainly am scooters. Just ask Mrs. Cog. :-)
I have lived on the road with bicycle, tent, and stove every summer for two weeks for the last 13 years. Mostly in the mountains, or on the coast. Alone. Meet endless people. Extreme freedom. Difficult to explain the allure, but every winter I vibrate with anticipation. The world is grand. The real world. Long live ZeroHedge.
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"I vibrate with anticipation."
The homeless don't pay a mortgage and don't waste money on property taxes or homeoners insurance, or utilities. That saves them 1000 a month. They get free healthcare , free prescriptions, free food, free phones. That puts them up 1000 a month. If they don't waste money on cars, insurance, or gas- they are up another 600 a month. They don't pay federal taxes.
All told, the homeless save 3000 a month. Not a bad retirement. Let' hope the rest of America doesn't catch on.
"The homeless don't pay a mortgage and don't waste money on property taxes or homeoners insurance, or utilities. That saves them 1000 a month. They get free healthcare , free prescriptions, free food, free phones. That puts them up 1000 a month. "
Except that many of these people are squatting in houses they used to pay mortgages on.
Some I know have been squatting for years. One familiy I know has not paid a cent since 2008, and now the patriarch has begun collecting Social Security.
i know of another squatter in a years ongoing mortgage forebearance situation who is getting expensive surgery for chronic knee pain, etc. paid by .GOV...
Many 'homeless' squatters are semi-retired boomers with no savings and ruined credit..
And if they clipped coupons they could save even more........
A friend of mine once stated it best as...
"...There is a leisure class at either end of the economic spectrum..."
As Henry David Thoreau once said “Most men lead lives of quiet desperation..."
There is a lot of people that are two or three paychecks away from the street. Though we don't like to believe this, it could happen to anyone.
You can allways count on "Oficer Friendly" if you need help. Dinosaurs are extinct but officer friendly is in the same category as Unicorns. Read the peoples history of the United States and wake the fuck up.
downvote for citing Zinn propaganda.
Been there, done that ... I guess it easier to dismiss when mom and/or dad is still alive and doing okay.
I know quite a few homeless people (including a brother). I'm certain that 3.5 million isn't an accurate figure. 'Homeless' as a category is open to definition. I believe that in reality we've got far more than 1% of our adult population who are 'homeless'.
And at the Dept. of Housing and Urban Development, counting homeless is budgetary manna from heaven.
The homeless are an "issue" only when the Repblicans are in control, didn't you get the memo? Under Democrats everything is awesome and there are no homeless.
They must use the same method of counting as they do the unemployed. Once the ue benefits run out you are not counted as unemployed.
Once the homeless person's benefits run out or they don't show up to be counted, they become unhomeless
1% of the population is homeless??? Another great accomlishment by the corrupt divisive despicable incompetent arrogant narcissitic illegal indonesian alien muslim pathoogical liar in chief fudgepacker...
If an advocacy group days 3.5 million, it's probably half that.
The NYC homeless number may or may not be accurate for the summer months ,, but we get 90% of them in Florida during the winter.
In Montana they can be bear food.
At least they've got that going for them.
All god's critters gotta eat.
How about a dinner party for sharks and banksters?
I have an idea, feed the banksters to the homeless. That is a twofor.
Better yet, feed the banksters to the sharks. After the economy comes back, the homeless can get jobs. If they decide that they want to.
They can hunt overweight sharks to make the beaches safe for childrens.
it ain't coming back...
The past is a hallucination, the future is a fantasy and the present is a nightmare.
THe dreamers sleep because to awake is to rejoin the nightmare, so they dream in front of their wall size tv's, they watch fake "reality" that enable their slumbers, enmeshed in fake sports, fake news, fake numbers, dreaming of a fake future.
The homeless live in the real world and daily witness the nightmare, but have no power to communicate it and when they try they are thought insane.
if but 1% are awake then who is driving the bus?
There's the point. The countries homeless migrate to the liberal Cities where the money and handouts are.
I will let you have the last multiple words, but many homeless are temporarily so and find themselves in that condition because they cannot afford to live where they live, and they cannot afford to leave where they live. You don't have to be a brain surgeon to figure out that it is easier to become homeless in expensive cities. But ask your brain surgeon anyway. He'll explain it to you during your next treatment.
The liberal Cities are centers of Fed money and are actually booming while the rest of the country is still in a recession.
The homeless guy in a NYC subway was not renting an Apt. on Park Ave last week. Most migrate from depressed areas to places with assistance programs. If you're homeless, they have shelters that offer assistance and then permanent housing by providing rent subsidies and case management.
they move with the climate too. mnsnota grows of freeloaders every year during warm months. some get bennies from ill and snota, free ride express on 94, even carpool. hey, that aint so dumb-hehe.
i'll reserve my humerous free shit diatribe for another day. lol.
Las Vegas is not Liberal. We do have a 50% high school drop out rate going for us though.
The north may not be liberal but Vegas is Democrat party central. Harry Reade?
He wins the elections because he's a high ranking Mormon. Las Vegas always votes down new taxes even for cops. Its the most redeeming quality of the place.
I'm another Las Vegas resident -- this is a weird place, not at all dismissable as a classic democratic stronghold (like San Francisco or Boston, both of which I've also lived in.) This town has an amazingly low intellect, with the percentage of population having college degrees being down there with the deep south pork-poking locales we love to make fun of. Vegas exploded in population about 15 years ago, largely adding car parks, pole dancers, and construction workers. Moving here from the east coast and being an academic, it was quite a shock.
Overall, I would say that rather than dismiss Vegas as being "democratic", better to just dismiss it as being "ignorant".
How about the "healthcare" in Vegas. Every fucking quack who was kicked out of every state in the nation is here. My wife had breast cancer, I know.
yes, sorry to say, you are right. when i moved here and asked folks where to go for good doctoring, the unanimous answer was "the airport".
That might be part of his appeal but he is and has been since the 70's a mob connected union loving rat... and the mob gets what the mob wants.... Who counts the votes in Vegas? Choirboys?
Detroit must be full of squatters.
It's a shithole, but it's cheap. It is no coincidence that the cities listed are also among the most expensive in which to buy or rent.
Inverse logic as usual. Read my comment above.
Cheap? They are about to start giving away houses in the D. As a matter of fact, i think they are doing that!
25 below in Flint, last night. A new all time record.
That should thin them out.
And I thought Flint couldn't get any worse.
In my callow youth, Michigan was stiff competition. Had some of the best public schools in the nation.
I don't think there are any "best schools" any more. Can't imagine where they would be hiding.
I grew up in Midland. Still decent school there thanks to being the world HQ for Dow Chem, but by all accounts even Midland schools have gone downhill.
By all accounts, the federal government and teachers unions have drastically expanded their power and oversight in public schools while at the same time diminishing the involvement and oversight by local officials and parents - this all over the country.
Did anyone really expect a different result? How on earth could that be?
Just how old are you?
I graduated in 80 from one of the nicer public schools in the area and it was still a dump.
I left the day after my last class and was gone for about 25 years. They mailed my diploma
some years later...
Schafer and 6 Mile, bitchez......
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You just missed the fuckification of Flint. I graduated HS in '84, and Flint was already pretty screwed by that point. At the time, I had relatives down in Flint and Detroit who went from comfortable to fucked.
Yea, I heard about it from family over the years. Pretty grim.
But look at you now.... :)
I am well familar with your commentary on ZH.
It appears you have worn those scars of youth with pride.
they can make a ebt card for rent.
Did you really think the welfare mommas in inner city ghettos pay rent?
my parents used to own a liquir store in skid row in los angeles. the slum single apartments were like $300 month in late 90's. lot of the people in skid row whether they had housing or on the streets have mental problems that should be in wards but the system got turned corrupt and make billion dollar yaughts for steve jobs instead.
I wonder how many of these people have been destroyed financially by ZIRP & ZEROcare?
If you have pulse you can buy a car, or get a student loan @ 500-1000% APR of 0>Prime+15-25 basis points.
If they were normal members of society, they would at least have a car in which to sleep. I know one person who makes 160k+bonus in NYC, pays for a parking spot in a garage, and sleeps in a 6ft bed he made in the car because he works all other hours. Showers in gym. good life, i think
This clip is probably before your time.
Those 96 month loans on used cars are really attractive. ( the equity mutilator loans)
"If they were normal members of society, they would at least have a car in which to sleep."
I'm pretty sure a guy who lives in his car is counted as homeless, even if he makes $160K a year. You know what they say about statistics.
I'd have to check the NSA wireless statistics LTeR. Those Stingrays don't work well when your camped under an overpass. ;-)
How's Alaska? You're going to have a beautiful summer!
Alaska? I would last 5 minutes there in the winter. Grew up up north, but many years in FL have weakened my tolerance to cold.
My bad. I guess you were on vacation in 2013?
I've never been to Alaska, as far as I know. Probably got me confused with someone else. Just so long as it's not Harbanger.
That's probably the case. Who's Harbanger?
I pay attention to your comments, because I respect your thoughts and input.
Same here, man.
Harbanger is a poster who apparently has nothing better to do than to down arrow me and respond to most of my comments in an effort to start a fight. See above.
Not worth my time LTeR. Wouldn't let it rent space in my mind.
Lola is tired of getting her butt whooped when she gets into an argument with me, she would always challenge me, now she avoids me. I have her well trained.
And uses homophobic insults like they're the wittiest thing ever.
all in jest humor, boys and girls, right? lol
I worked one summer near Anaktuvuk Pass in Alaska and the cold was terrible but the mosquitoes were incredible -- big, bad and biting MOFOS! They would bite right thru my jacket.
I never took a job up there again despite the very high pay.
I met three guys in Valdez Alaska working on the Pipeline and living in an empty shipping container parked in a camping place right on the bay. They saved their entire salaries except for the small amount spent on the campsite rental, showered in the public showers, worked all day and then fished for dinner.
When the snow came -- early September -- they told me they were returning to the "Lower 48" and selling the container.
I'm sure the government would classify them as homeless.
Their life was great.
In the DC burbs, the new arrivals live four to a crappy FHA tract house, making $60,000 and barely surviving.
Household income $240,000. Winning.
Robust!
He wouldn't have to take showers at the gym if he lived in a van down by the river.
Ship em to Greece.
Wow 67k homeless in NY, what a great fucking town that must be.
Today they are called ice cubes
You expect me to believe that there are only 6000 bums in San Francisco? Ha, there is more than that on Mission street alone.
You guys need a new method of estimation. Maybe like weekly sales of Thunderbird, Nighttrain and MD 20- 20
homeless is like jobless - 1 hour a weak and you are not homeless, etc...
Well if you ever seen the Tenderloin District you would understand why you would say fuck it and give it your best guesstimate, cause I know they did not go there and stand around counting crap. LOL
Yeah, 6k in Chicago is just the morning shift.....
I had the exact same thought looking at the graph. That is only the number asking for help just on the way to work.
Was gonna say the same thing. There's at least 6000 people living in camper vans around Golden Gate park. Other cities in California and Nevada ship their mental patients to San Francisco on a daily basis. This list is bullshit.
WINNING.........
they should be like this guy and start their own "salvation mountain" in the desert. bunch of people living off the gov checks with no rent and no law.
http://www.salvationmountaininc.org/
bullish
Exactly
Why keep these useless resources around. They are the desperate criminals in society.
Annual hunts would cure homelessness, annual hunts for sure.
You know what the good progressives in Hawaii do?
They just buy them one-way tickets to California...brilliant!
Dig it, and it would provide a sense of community for those who would participate. :)
That was mean.
Mean certainly, but there is always the nagging thought that should the US take "another step down" there will be many who would do this, especially if "the compensation was right", AND there would be plenty of the "better-connected" who would have zero moral problems with this method of "Cleansing the gene pool" (for their benefit).
don't live close to any of those cities
Don't live close to any of the Urban Utopias of Amerika.
We gave enough money to (insert just one of many foreign nations here) last year alone to feed and house them all......
The US "gives" sufficient cash, materials and services to just "One" Nation to house all of these US Citizens in pretty comfortable (maye even First-Class standard) accommodation annually . . . .
Seems "Charity does NOT (necessarily) begin at home" . . . .
I hope you're not referring to the three billion dollars the the United States gives to Israel on an annual basis. This never supposes to be mentioned or discussed!
Why is this on ZH?
So you know where to open up a business and have the best pool of potential employees........
Who let you into ZH?
Tyler, five years ago.
What's your excuse?
Ah, yes. Back in the good old days, when you had to be able to do math to comment. Too bad that, once again, quality was sacrificed for quantity.
all liberal cesspools......im shocked
San Diego is pretty conservative but, yes, we have many here and I work near a large encampment. Most are druggies/ drunks and or insane. Many veterans ( tragic) and a significant number are from other states. Probably our good climate and generous benefits are the main reason.
I really don't have much judgement against them. Some are there from poor choices, others bad circumstances. I feed the ones I know fairly well when I can and stay clear of the ones who may do me harm. The other day one was making crosses out of reeds for Palm sunday. I told him I was sorry I had no money for a cross. He smiled at me and handed me one " no worries Lady, the Lord has provided me with much and I am thankful" I was so touched. I was going to give him a 20 when I got off of work but he was gone. I hope he is ok.
Miffed
Well "conservative" is a very overused and abused pigeon hole. Just look at the multiterm mayor of SD who had to resign recently, and those couple of Congressmen in the area that are only conservative compared to Piglosi in San Fran, Peter Stark, Boxer, and Feinstein.
You speak of " leadership". I speak of the military guys I hang out with at the range. Two different worlds. There is where the heart of San Diego resides and that is who I identify and give my allegiance.
Miffed
How do feel about driving 3 hours to watch the Chargers play football next to a gasoline refinery in Carson Miffed?
The Spanos family just cut their necks.
Well, the old San Diego Padres stadium was located on a toxic waste dumping site so it seems about right to me. ;-)
Miffed;-)
Point taken, I just have found that pols typically reflect their constituencies.
Unfortunately while the face of homelessness is publicly represented by those who sleep on the street, there are a surprising number of homeless who actually have jobs and go to work every day.Many are actually families with children. Sometimes they 'live' in homeless shelters but split up because many shelters will accept only women and children with no men for security reasons. Others live out of their cars or flop on friends couches for a few nights. That gets old quick.
For any number of reasons they do not have a place to live. Often it is because they cannot come up with a security deposit plus first and last months rent plus deposits on utilities etc. Or they can't pass the background check because of prior legal or financial problems. Sometimes it is as simple as not having a prior address, because they are homeless, thus they are immediately rejected by the background screening.
As people begin to slip down the slippery slope towards homelessness, options that the employed and housed take for granted are simply no longer there for the homeless. You work a low wage job and are just scraping by. Your car breaks down and you miss four or five days of work finding money to repair it. Or you are very sick and miss a week of work. You are then fired but don't find another job for a month. Now you are way behind on the rent, utilities and so on. You get evicted and start living out of your car.
The downward spiral is brutal and most people here on ZH have never experienced it, have no idea what it is like and hopefully never will.
It fucking sucks, FYI.........
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Cognitive Dissonance (CD) wrote:
That is exactly right, CD. And I am one of these people. I have been homeless since August 2011, except for 3.5 months in early 2014. I am currently employed (as a server at Maggiano's restaurant) in northern Virginia, where I sleep in my car except on those nights where I do not work and can get to the shelter before, say, midnight. If I work a night shift, I cannot get to the winter shelter in time (before midnight) and must sleep in my car (brrrrrrrrhhhh!!!) Gawd, I cannot wait for spring to arrive! Fortunately, tonight, the low temperature will be a relatively balmy 30 degrees Farenheit.
As others have pointed out, the federal government (and Mother Jones) greatly underestimate the number of homeless. Why? Because most such estimates are based on the number who actually check into the winter shelters or otherwise avail themselves of services for the homeless. Many of the working homeless do NOT so avail themselves, in part due to time constraints or, for example, the constraint that applies to me specifically (can't get to the shelter in time).
How many Americans are working and homeless?? Dunno. But I am certain that it is at least as great as the number of unemployed homeless, and possibly several times greater. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either lying or danged foolish.
-- Paul D. Bain
PaulBain@PObox.com
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Yes, homeless is too broad a term to have much meaning. Many odd and sad stories.
But the real problem is that all of our massive welfare spending goes to the same "entitled" loafers, forever and ever.
"But the real problem is that all of our massive welfare spending goes to the same "entitled" loafers, forever and ever."
And by that I assume you mean the corporate welfare 'loafers'.....right?
Below are the 20 companies in the S&P 500 that reported 0% (or
lower) effective tax rates during the second calendar quarter of 2014:
Sources: S&P Capital IQ, USA TODAY research
Ha. Notice how many are RE Trusts! Slum lording at a zero or negative tax rate...
I did.
I also noticed how Boeing, Verizon and GE had a combined $77 Billion dollars in profit from 2008-2012 and all had negative tax rates.
Funny how I had to pay an alternative minimum tax rate during two of those years while clearly they did not.
Regarding just the drug dealers:
The top ten US [legalized] drug companies extract from U.S. citizens annual profits of $35.9 billion, more than the annual profits for all of the 490 remaining Fortune 500 companies combined.
Up to 80% of these transnational pharmaceutical corporations, according to the New England Journal of Medicine, are criminal entities.
Corporate rap sheets for AstraZeneca, Eli Lilly, GlaxoSmithKline, Merck, and Pfizer can be accessed from near the bottom of this page at the Corporate Research Project.
So, some of America's most liberal cities also have the most homeless? Hmmmm.
Are they "bleeding hearts" or are they just selfish?
As we know, Liberals are the most selfish, self-centered, and greedy people in the world.
They' chock-full O' filthy whores, too!
The ones I know out here in the Great Republic of Hillbillary2016 are the most NIMBY self-centered megalomaniac out of touch narrow minded folks I've ever met. Everything that's not anybody's business but their own becomes "we or they should do something about it" which means pass a law and tax somebody else and honest to God, they feel good! They wash their hands of personal responsibility abdicating personal actions to government programs. They're horrible people, practically speaking. Principles mean naught to them. And my neo-con buds are no different.
Seriously, an example of the failure of neo-liberal modernity which of course is addressed by MOAR neo-liberalism.
please see above...
Knuks, that comment was beautifull. Well structured and engineered. In all honesty, I'm not capable of labeling anyone or thing.
Society has become so convoluted?
I'm really fortunate to have a garden. Gardening gives me solace.
Correct, and as we all know, soup kitchens caused the Great Depression.
Little-known fact: Homeles people stay crunchy in milk!
But not if you put them in the blender.......
Just goes to show. The homeless really are stupid. I know if I were approaching that stage, I would scrounge up a one way ticket to Hawaii...
most homeless don't have nearly your frequent flyer miles.
owebomba voters
Homeless people are just new "potential home buyers".
So are these the victims of the War on Poverty (collateral damage) or products of the Great Society I've heard so much about?