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Nearly one-third of all the homeless people in America live in these ten cities...
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No, they are all the stick up their ass white folk who are too proud to perform the multitude of fantastic jobs we now need the "immigrants" to do......
lol
Which explains perfectly Appalachia. The great thing about being a bigot is you don't have to think. Its all reflex, living on autopilot pretending the map is the landscape.
Based on government accounting methodolgy, the godd ole USA will only count the homeless based on how long they have been homeless. Once the official time has exceeded the maximum allowed threshold, they will no longer be counted as homeless. Expect better numbers in the future.
I thought only Reagan made homeless people.
Oh, he is...just read the comments at so many sites, still even today.
There are probably well over ten millions of homeless people within 150 miles of NYC.
They are almost all squatting.
40% of the mortgages in some Newark and Bronx zip codes alone are in default: many many thousands of homes in this region.. The banks can't foreclose or they will render themselves insolvent and require another several hundreds of billions of dollars in recapitalization/bailouts.
I know people that haven't paid their mortgage or property taxes or home owner's insurance since Q1 2008.
They have been squatting in their former homes for years.
I know people living in friends attics and paying what cash they can under the table.
IF these people were all thrown out of the homes they are squatting in there would be a monumental humanitarian crisis right here in metro areas NYC/Atlantic City/Newark/Philladelphia.
Many have not saved a penny and they will be wandering the streeets pushing shopping carts full of useless crap and boxed house cats, and dragging their children and dogs around on leashes behind them...
I AM NOT FUCKING JOKING.
LOOK AROUND:
http://www.zillow.com/visuals/negative-equity/#7/40.002/-75.729
Anyone care to respond?
Are you people even bothering to look around at the link I have supplied on ZH several times now.
IF this is even remotely accurate, and I see much anecdotal evidence that it is in fact accurate: we are in very very very seriously deep shit...
Something is going to have to be done about the lousy ruined economy and the unsustainable debt and the expensive useless ideologically constrained government of fools and criminals that have allowed this to get so far out of hand...
Since probably only a few percent understand the nature of these United States, I don't know what can be done lawfully.
Stop giving billions of dollars of tax payer's money to Israel - It's a start!
Important and fascinating, thanks. Some nights are just drinking games around here, and yet useful information gets through. Sabe dios.
I'm on Zillow a lot, but I couldn't find this data for my area. Is it a back door, paid service or wut?
This should help:
http://www.zillow.com/research/data/
Thanks.
I have just enough filters on this silly thing to keep the useful stuff out.
If we forget a password, we can always ask the NSA.
Use this link:
http://www.zillow.com/visuals/negative-equity/#13/40.7653/-74.0113
It is an interactive map. Zoom in and put the pointer on the region, the city, even a specific zip code.
There are some areas where information is not available...
WTF can I say. There are parts of Newark, of New York City, Atlantic City: 35%, 40%, 45%+ delinquency rates.
These are some of the most population dense parts of the metro region. New Jersey has the highest population density in the entrie US and NYC is one of the most population dense metro regions in the US.
This is an insanely large number or people/properties.
The entire municipal tax basis/government spending ratio is also waaayy fucking out of whack. People who live in many of these communities where delinquency is highest also happen to be some of the most vociferous in demanding more money and services be devoted to them and their interests...
I could almost understand the levels of national and regional debt being incurred and even consider the FED monetization/QE differently but for the glaring fact that the problems are not in any real way being addressed.
The United States is having a full-blown economic crisis and severe depression; and yet money is being funnelled to ridiculous wasteful shit.
ThroxxOfVron: Only information approved by the United States of Lies' Ministry of Truth, approved by Obama Lord Of Lies, are allowed to be believed.
Seriously, there should be a Constitutional Amendment requiring the strict separation of Education and State. Anyone who can add and subtract can see that all US government entities, corporations and individuals are going to financially implode. The past 30 years were good times built upon a massive leveraged buyout (LBO), the sale of all of US equity saved up over the previous 200 years.
Eventually though, truth cannot be hidden. The greater the magnitude of the truth, the greater is the natural pressure forcing it out into the open.
There are thousands of massive car parks located around the world where newly produced automobiles are sent for long term storage and deterioration. This story was covered by ZH ~1/2 year ago complete with Google Satellite photographs. After a year or more in storage these cars will be fit only for scrapping.
GM leads the world in 'channel stuffing', pushing finished products into an already overstuffed inventory management system. The last I recall GM had stuffed nearly 800,000 units of overproduction into its distribution channels.
China's Commodity Financing Scams, being exposed for what they are, have had a great deflationary effect worldwide on commodity prices, production and shipments. That most(?) of the commodities used in the CCFSs were either rehypothecated [I just love that word. It transforms what is an illegal act for you and I into a blasé everyday legal financial strategy used by the sophisticated financiers of the world. Don't you just love how calling a rose by another name creates an entirely different entity?] or blatantly sold or that! gasp! never existed in the first place.
Still, China's banks NPLs are the envy of the world's bankers, indicating that they have perfected the art of always making good loans, and excepting for a few trivial examples, never make bad loans.
Of course, the possibility does exist that China's economic numbers are all determined in advance in their own Ministry of Truth and bear no relation to what is happening in their real economy.
If so, when the wheels finally come off in a massive outbreak of truth worldwide where are all of these putzes going to go for asylum?
North Korea? Ha, ha, ha!
More bubbles have to be pricked first Throxx, before you see what you are referring to. Sad fact.
So if the banks are so highly leveraged, how do they keep this whole financial scheme afloat?
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ThroxxOfVron wrote:
Yes. Please see my comment above. My comment is probably relevant to your inquiry.
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ThroxxOfVron wrote:
Yes. Please see my comment above. My comment is probably relevant to your inquiry.
-- Paul D. Bain
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It's a sad fukin joke. I know guys living in very, very expenses houses that haven't paid for years. They're no longer scared of losing it because they've gotten used to it. No job of any worth and when the day comes no plan. These aren't layabouts, they are guys that had good jobs that don' t exist anymore. It's a I'm 50, no pension, no one is going to hire me and WTF now. The sad/funny part is these guys will never rebel. They are embarrassed and will hide where they are in life. They did what they were told what make it in America and now they're fked. And those of us that went ftard, into the military are now the geniuses.
This will not end well
These fuckers aren't just destroying themselves. They are destroying the people around them.
I compete for clients against one of these people.
I get scraps of work around them when they are too busy to suck up everything and I get endless shit from the clients that I need to be more competitive with my prices!
This is where a huge part of the wage deflation/labor pricing weakness comes from in the NYC metro region: people that are deadbeats taking less-than-living-wages because they aren't paying real costs to maintain residences.
One guy I know spends everything he gets as soon as he gets it because he is sure that the bank will eventually seize everything in any of his accounts to make up for losses on the mortgage he hasn't paid in years.
The fucker doesn't just buy brand new gear every few months, he has new phones every few months, a new tv, another car paid for in cash...etc..
How the fuck an I supposed to compete with Mr. best price who still lives like a bigshot who doesn't actually pay a fucking cent to live in his fucking mcmansion?
Yes, our version of the Proletariat serial raping the bourgeoisie , with the full, active encouragement of our version of the Dictatorship of the Proletariat.
It'll get worse before it gets better. America's just too damn expensive; our costs need to fall 50-80% to put us on a competitive footing with the BRICs. Wages, rents, home prices, taxes, regulatory compliance, interest on debt -- all costs must be slashed, nothing is sacred.
What a great idea for the Fed to buy up millions of defaulted mortgages at full face value, and your example shows this bank bailout trickling down to some real people. Know that in business as in sport, if everyone else cheats with impunity, you must also cheat or hang up your cleats.
You are living in the mental jail/box the oligarchs put you in. Maybe it is time to think outside the box and free yourself from the chains and shackles that bind you.
You are the subservient, obedient, wage slave, sheeple they made of you. For God's sake wake up!
Throxx, I can certainly appreciate what you are saying, but I'm coming from a different perspective. For nearly six years now, I have lived in my deceased parents' home, rent-and-tax free. Briefly, dad passed in 2009 (mother died in 2005), and I inherited the house with my brother and sister (both well-off, but worthless).
I could, if the bank would allow it, pay the mortgage and exorbitant taxes, but they refuse to deal. Currently, I'm in week six of waiting for them to sign and deliver a settlement agreement that would give them the house (and a measly $9K to me, ie cash for keys) that we verbally agreed to, but they won't. All they had to change was a few dates. Six weeks? WTF?
They won't because in reality, they don't want the house. Even if they win their foreclosure case (pending), they probably won't go to a sheriff's sale, which means I could stay even longer, I suppose. Now, I have a fraud suit pending and am going to start a quiet title action. I also have quality defenses against their foreclosure. If the banks had to realize the losses on properties that aren't paying, they'd be in bankruptcy court, lickety-split. They're insolvent and have been since 2008. So are most cities, states and the federal government (especially them), if your definition of insolvency is "more liabilities than assets" and so is most of the rest of the world.
We are long overdue for a reset, a "jubilee" but the Ponzi must continue, apparently. Consider this: In the city of Rochester, NY (I'm in Irondequoit, a bordering suburb) there are 46,000 properties that haven't paid property taxes in AT LEAST THREE YEARS. That's about 40% of the property base.
Almost all governments - from villages to cities, counties and states - are fucked, the banks are fucked, and the people paying taxes and mortgages - like you - are fucked beyond belief because everything is in a slow-motion deflationary collapse, inevitable, due to the extraordinarily-large tax and debt burden. It cannot last. It must collapse. The numbers have grown just too large and grotesque to be ignored. My hope is that I've saved enough to survive and/or I prevail in court and am awarded the house free and clear.
Anecdotally, my sister, who lives in a solid suburb and could buy the house with cash, probably, said she was "sick" of the whole matter. I wanted to puke, since I am the one who have lived in the home, kept it up, made repairs, dealt with the bank, etc. She's sick of it? Give me a fucking break. I'm the one taking all the risk, and I don't complain, since, basically, it's been a gift. But, I've done the right things, like fighting the MFers in court, saving money and improving my credit score. In the end, I'd be happy to pay a mortgage and taxes if they were HONEST, based on an honest appraisal, assessment and honest equity and interest rate. The banks won't have it that way, because, at the root, they are not honest dealers. They are thieves.
So, if you want to blame your spend-it-all neighbor because you can't compete, you need to scratch a little deeper. Your neighbor is only doing what he has to - in his mind - to survive. And, he's right in thinking that the banks or the government will take anything and everything away. He is the symptom. The problem lies much deeper.
Good luck to you. I hope you have set aside some cash and PMs because in the crash, you likely will prosper if you do things right.
" For nearly six years now, I have lived in my deceased parents' home, rent-and-tax free. Briefly, dad passed in 2009 (mother died in 2005), and I inherited the house with my brother and sister (both well-off, but worthless).
I could, if the bank would allow it, pay the mortgage and exorbitant taxes, but they refuse to deal. "
IMHO, you sound like just another parasite...
Brilliant +100: Never rebel is right.
oh, the collapse is coming, and fast! You are correct, there are tonnes of people underwater, or bankrupt! It will be a global collapse like nothing we've seen before!
Don't count on the "fast" part -- it's truly amazing how long banks and governments can keep a good swindle going. Japan has been about to collapse for the last 30 years.
"How did you go bankrupt?"
"Gradually, then suddenly."
We're still in the "gradually" stage.
Is this what the majority of "what remains of the Middle Class" will be looking forward to calling "home" - http://www.shareable.net/blog/11-tiny-house-villages-redefining-home "Trendy" but tiny, cramped and a real "family home" - not. Or, with the Baltic Dry Index plumbing record lows, maybe all those empty (and unwanted) Shipping Containers can be used to "Store" the disadvantaged - not in this comfortable style, https://renaissanceronin.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/cclofts_utah.jpg, but probably as THIS - http://assets.inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2010/07/Dubai-Worker-Shipping-Container-Homes-2.jpg
In the meantime, those with all the "right connections" prefer their housing to be somewhat more spacious - http://photos.sothebyshomes.com/listing/1600/d2c54917c55e4e079834928aa33e4e3a.jpg
Thank you sir, may I have another?
Frisco is just a bunch of ex-hippies that want to be homeless.
The most corrupt of federal agencies bar none...this is just another reiteration of the same findings throughout its dismal slush fund history:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/18/hud-give-free-housing-to...
Are you saying that there are a little over 500,000 homeless people in America today? That's what these figures add up to times three, est. 170 x 3.333, or 510,000. Are you kidding me?
What do you expect from liquor store exit polls.........??
lol Sometimes the obvious, is the best answer.
I do not believe the ridiculously low number of ~500,000 homeless in America. Assuming a population of 320 million that's a measly 0.16%!
I would find a homeless population around 1% far more believable, meaning 3,200,000 homeless nationwide. I currently live in North-Central Florida and there are a lot of homeless here. I see them everywhere, both the regular ones and the new ones. I especially see far too many homeless veterans.
Semper Fi to Smedley Butler's Ghost
I don't know...having just re-read Upton Sinclair's, "The Jungle," it reconfirmed why I'm so much less sympathetic to the constant harangue of social justice in 2015.
Nice literary reference. I own that book. It is somewhere in this mess. I should probably re-read that one myself. I will still keep reading Ambrose Bierce in the meantime. The Devil's Dictionary is superlative.
Economy, n. Purchasing the barrel of whiskey that you do not need for the price of the cow you cannot afford.
You can buy it for cheap and it is free online. Every ZHer should have a two copies. One for the themselve and one for the restroom.;-) There are some classic statements made in that book.
Cui Bono? (Latin). What good would that do me?
When, if ever, are Americans going to rise up and call the liars by name for what they are: LIARS? Obama, LPOTUS, the Lying-most President Of The United States, the lying-most president in US history is a good starting place.
According to John Williams' ShadowStats.com website, the US Government's end of fiscal 2013 GAAP Debt was $92.3 trillion and, because of constantly lying about inflation, US GDP that year was only about $10 trillion.
John Kerry's State Department says that ISIS Muslim terrorists wouldn't be terrorists if they had jobs.
The entire US Government, about 95% of which is blatantly Unconstitutional, does little else but lie. We should change it's name to be commensurate with what it really does:
THE UNITED STATES OF LIES
Led by:
LORD OF LIES OBAMA
Atleast in New York the homeless live in the tunnels like mole people and you dont see that many of them.
Not many places to sit outside in NY.... the boroughs have had most of the benches removed. . . benches for buses etc... very few of them in the better areas.... you see a few bums sleeping on park benches every now and then.
If you wana see homeless people in NY just hover around the train stations /areas around the train stations at night (10pm+) you will see tons of homeless sleeping on sidewalks with shopping carts and blankets, you have a lot of people that actually live on the train cars also . . . they just sleep and piss and shit in the trains at night, I guess it beats being outside . . . in the elements.
Most of the chronically "homeless" are lunatics who can't be cared for properly because it's become impossible to commit even the most obvious lunatic to an institution unless he succeeds in murdering someone.
No surprise NYC and LA have more than their share of those.
Niall of the Ni… wrote "Most of the chronically "homeless" are lunatics who can't be cared for properly because it's become impossible to commit even the most obvious lunatic in an institution unless he [or she] succeeds in murdering someone."
In Florida, the Baker Act may be used to commit a person for mandatory observation if the court believes that they represent a danger to themselves or others. Obviously, there are flaws in the system.
I disagree with Niall's assessment based on my own interactions with the homeless. Yes, some are not completely lucid or coherent. However, that is a long way from being a lunatic. I have never been threatened by a homeless person.
I meet homeless people, many of whom travel with either a friend and/or their dog(s). In fact, to me it seems that most of the homeless on the streets are veterans. I try talking to them and offering them what little help is within my means. As a disabled former US Marine, with no family, I am not far from homelessness myself.
They get harassed by this city's Police Department, for apparently no reason other than that they are homeless. That is seemingly a fact of life in the south for the homeless veteran. The small town southern police departments seem to classify homeless veterans as an especially dangerous class, based on their military training, even more so if they have actual combat experience.
I have yet to meet a lunatic homeless veteran. I did meet a homeless civilian in Seattle around 30 years ago who might fit your definition of a lunatic. She was a 'bag lady' with a regularly staked out spot over a steam grating.
Perhaps you have a better solution to offer, rather than making ad hominem attacks on an entire class of people with whom you may have little actual familiarity?
Tucson is a haven for homeless snowbirds in the winter...14,514 back in 2007.
Wheres San Francisco?
Houston seems under reported here.
the usa .gov will let you own what you had a birth. nothing but your soul, which is then ground and sold to lucifer. you came in with nothing and will damn sure die the same way. some exceptions, j corzine, b gates, buffet, clinton, bush, pelosi, (any big time pol you care to name) (any big time bankster you care to name)..
it's a big club and you ain't in it.
trillions $ on war on poverty and 4 decades later we have millions of homeless, larger gettos, and millions more on .gov handouts.
In Edmonton, Alberta the local cops a few months ago have implemented a program to Help the Homeless. the program gives them access to proceeds of crime funds/assets. This program seems to be modelled after various US municipalities where cops are raking it in. This was implemented months ago and I have as yet seen any numbers or reporting on this program but I will bet that proceeds of crime seizures are going way up in this municipality. How they will use these funds to help our poorest will also be interesting.
The reason you don't ever see Bostons homeless is because they ship them to Western Massachusetts. Also they hide all their Stats.
I grew up in Calcutta in the 60s not long after India's partition. One couldn't walk on the sidewalk because it was chockful of refugees from Pakistan (As a child I used to think 'refugee' was yet another caste in India's vast caste system) And mind you, these were working poor. Most men worked as rickshaw pullers. Most women as household helps. The 'wealthy' among them lived in big cement pipes. City had procured them but had no money to lay them underground. Our maid (about 50 year old but looked 80) family had fled from what's now Bangladesh. Vegetable peels and stalks we threw away fed her family. She woudl wait an hour for those throwaways while she slow...ly sipped tea my mother made for her (with one whole teaspoon full of sugar). Everything was so precious. Food, footwear, clothes even plastic bags and safety pins. And because they were so precious, they also afforded so much pleasure. Now when I go back to India, I find younger family memebers get depressed because they can't afford an i-phone.
how about showing the numbers as a % of the population in that city? Idiot.
The other two-thirds must live in my city...
I was in Mexico last year for over four months driving around saw very few homeless people.
Right, they're all up here.
Now, if those homeless people had just BTFD, like Yellen said, they'd all be rich and would have homes in the Hamptons by now. Dopes!
are you homeless if BlackStone owns your house?
Funny how liberals can't help point out the taxes on corporations. Corporations pass 100% of taxes to those to cosumers in the form of higher prices. You can't punish a corporation via higher taxes.
Funny how liberals can't help point out the taxes on corporations. Corporations pass 100% of taxes to those to cosumers in the form of higher prices. You can't punish a corporation via higher taxes.