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Why 4 And Not 6 Months

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Why 4 and not 6 months? Simple: so that the humiliation of the Syriza government can continue with yet another bailout, aka "current programme", aka Memorandum extension request just ahead of the biggest debt maturity for the remainder of 2015.

 

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Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:22 | 5809178 Haager
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That, and ECB has said that Greece may be in for the QE-wave in July, so if it doesn't play out they'll be locked out for good.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:29 | 5809248 rayban
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Actually Athens needs some time to print a few trillion new drachmas.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:36 | 5809282 Groundhog Day
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everything is awesome!  Rates going up in March-June! Yes!  i can finally make some money my savings account

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:38 | 5809296 Headbanger
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Agreed. And the ECB needs to find a deep dark hole to hide in

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 18:13 | 5809441 Hohum
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That ain't ever gonna happen.  Today confirms it.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:30 | 5809252 walküre
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How long to introduce the Drachma? Float the Euro for 4 months and then run the printers. Syrizia has been overwhelmed with the debt talks since they got into power. I believe their true political ambitions and leadership are just getting started.

The extension is buying them time to make their moves.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:39 | 5809294 angel_of_joy
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Exactly ! That's probably why they agreed with this extension... to prepare for default (set their currency, give people access to euros for a little more so that they can take care of their money, give businesses time to prepare for loss of euro credit lines, etc). All in all, some good planning there...

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:40 | 5809316 Headbanger
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Exactly. But the Troika is going to stew for the next four months knowing the Greeks won't cave in for them.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:33 | 5809260 slaughterer
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Guess it is time to set up the barricades again around the Greek congressional buildings and summon the RoboCop platoons back into service.  

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:33 | 5809266 Bloppy
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Extend-and-pretend will work forever! Maybe

 

Did paper change its Iraq coverage to suit Apple Computer?

http://tinyurl.com/p6gtagg

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:23 | 5809192 Nafets93
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Sons of bitches... These goddamn greeks, why the fuck would they cave... BRICS had their back, Europe is a supranatural corrupt keynesiane voodoo temple... what... the... fuck...

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:25 | 5809210 nakki
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Because they know their never going to pay it back.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:28 | 5809239 walküre
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What about the massive amounts of interest? How are those being covered? The state is essentially broke and they are rolling back on austerity.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:31 | 5809253 Nafets93
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they're just kicking the can further down the road... somewhat expectable

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:41 | 5809326 angel_of_joy
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I guess since they get an extension of the "program", they can pay interest for 4 more months...

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:29 | 5809224 Groundhog Day
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The hit men got to them

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:35 | 5809279 Chupacabra-322
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The hit men? More like the Jackels.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:29 | 5809243 KnuckleDragger-X
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they are hoping the horse will sing....

 

 

a man sentenced to be hanged fro offending the sultan, offered a deal to the court:
if they would give him a year, he would teach the sultan’s horse to sing,
earning his freedom; if he failed, he would go to the gallows willingly. When
he returned to the dock, a fellow prisoner said, “Are you crazy?” The man
replied, “I figure, over the course of a year a lot can happen. Maybe the
sultan will die, and the new sultan will pardon me. Maybe I’ll die; in that
case I wouldn’t have lost a thing. Maybe the horse will die; then I’ll be off
the hook. And who knows? Maybe I’ll teach the horse to sing!

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:32 | 5809256 clade7
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Why 4 and not 6?  6 is the magic number baby, Like in 6 min abs!  4 doesnt even get your heart rate up!  Goddamn! 

 

You know that old saw from the sea?  "Six little chipmunks twirling on a branch, eating lots of sunflowers on my Uncles ranch"...get with the program, its clearly brie time and here you are talking gorgonzola! 

 

Step into my office...your fucking fired!

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:23 | 5809194 nakki
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Well because the "stock market" is always looking 6-9 month ahead.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:24 | 5809198 Groundhog Day
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Banksters           1002

People Sheeple        0

 

Get rich motherfuckers or get back in you cardboard box

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:25 | 5809216 Soul Glow
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Economic hit men infinity

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:24 | 5809205 authorized user
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No, Greek debt maturity has been fixed for 2115.

 

It probaby has an option to be extended another century for a modest renewal fee.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:24 | 5809208 Soul Glow
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Syriza turned out to be a big joke.  YV talks big and has no balls.  Tsiparas is your run of the mill politician.  Nothing will change until the governments are ripped down from the top and the politicians are hung from street lamps.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:25 | 5809215 Haus-Targaryen
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Essentially this. 

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:27 | 5809231 Dr. Engali
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Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:51 | 5809404 Haager
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I read the statement differently. Just compare it with the Dijsselbloem-draft from last Monday, it's stunningly different.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:26 | 5809218 Bangin7GramRocks
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But, but, but, but I thought this was the end for the Euro? What happened? Get serious people, they can extend this charade for another 10 or 20 years.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:29 | 5809249 Haus-Targaryen
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We are all holing onto a spec o' hope.  

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:31 | 5809254 Chupacabra-322
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The charade, deception & illusion will continue for as long as the Criminal Corp. Governments of the World can continue to print money. Not sooner.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 17:00 | 5809467 bbq on whitehou...
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No it can't thats the problem.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:26 | 5809220 walküre
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FED raising rates in June?

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:28 | 5809234 SheepDog-One
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Just absurd.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:35 | 5809263 fxpmtrader
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IMHO a win for the Greeks - just a smart move - game strategy.

Currently the Greeks may have lost face BUT they have a least won a few more billions to feed their poeple - what in the end in the moment is more important - as it bought at the same time TIME - to prepare the exit. To prepare deals with ie the russian bear or the Chinese - and ie. to prepare the new Drachme.

Aside of that: Add four months - and that is end of June - close to when gold should bottom (July). Cyclewise this outcome fits pretty well. It would not have fit if exit happened today.

So it remains to be seen what will be the final outcome - in summer.

So at the first glance it looks like they gave in - at the second they won TIME what is the most important asset currently.

Schäuble the old fox knew it and he was right - it was just a trojan horse.

Well played Yanis.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:54 | 5809423 Haager
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It's more: Greece now makes the proposals and just need them to be accepted. Before it was somehow the other way 'round, with Troika saying what and how. A little bit more freedom under supervision within a 4 month window.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:33 | 5809268 dogfish
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Hope and change.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 17:09 | 5809517 Mike Honcho
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Cope and Hang'e(m)

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:34 | 5809270 aliki
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to make it seem as tho there is a sense of "rational" here. did anyone really think the germans were NOT going to get a deal done? their economy continues to grow & their exports are still rolling out. were they going to cut out 1 of their primary clients? would a drug dealer cut off their best buyer? no. what they would do was allow them to "ring-out" a bit before giving them some more drugs. in this case, the dealer will keep dolling out the "candy" until all the clients are flat-out dead. all-the-while, these "dealers" (ie. the german, FOMC, BOJ, etc.) are all breaking biggy's rule of "never get high off your own supply". so according to biggy & the math/path we're on, there won't be an ICU, just a cold silver table at the morgue. its simply fascinating to me ANYONE who believes in this QE shit can't see where all this is going. like ive said all along, im sure it ends well.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:36 | 5809284 jmcadg
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Goddamn this is bullshit. Nothing has been agreed. Nothing has been conceded by the Troika. Unless we get a press conference shortly from Varoufakis saying they are all a bunch of liars and we will be exiting the Euro, then they have shown they are no different and the Greek people and everyone else by association has been fucked by the banksters again.

MFs.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:39 | 5809306 prospero matthews
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I would love it if what happened was the Greeks listeneing to Vlad "the Tiger Rider" Putin's advice"...Just nod along...what ever they say...go along....tell them things like "that sounds reaonable" and "Okay"  Just don't make them alarmed.  Make them feel safe, and confident in their nonsense."

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:44 | 5809343 Peter K
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The marxists thought they could piss with the big dogs, and it looks like they got pissed on!

Canalia :)

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:44 | 5809346 MollyHacker
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4 months to coordinate with the Fed for an intervention (like Mexico).

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:45 | 5809361 Father Lucifer
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Like quitting any addiction. Cold turkey is the only way. Syriza got punked and Greece will get more screwed by any deal made with these liars.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:57 | 5809380 fxpmtrader
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Again - Greeks won a few billions AND TIME to prepare.

If they had exited it would just have caused chaos resulting in more Chaos.
Now EU is paying the preparations for the exit and feeding the Greeks into summer.

Excellent move IMHO.

Suggest to keep emotions in check - and to rethink implications of this truely trojan horse.

Also for Putin this a win: Greece inside EU (as sort of an ally) has more advantages than disadvantages.

Furthermore this delay will eventually help Spain Podemus as a well timed and prepared Grexit is more preferable than Chaos and blood in the streets.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 17:08 | 5809508 bbq on whitehou...
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There will be people in the streets, riots dog makes a come back and you will see those steel barriers go back up.
Implications, yes there will be.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:54 | 5809422 ponzilla
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Puerto Rico’s GO rating has been downgraded to Caa1, with a negative outlook, from B2 by Moody’s Investors Service. The rating agency cited increased liquidity risks as a result of slower economic growth, which would
contribute to a decline in tax revenues, as the main driver for the downgrade.

Furthermore, the covering analysts stated that "tax reforms now before the legislature, which are uncertain in their timing and their results, further signal a rising degree of political risk that could ultimately cause outcomes unfavorable to bondholders.” The rating action impacts approximately $48bn of outstanding debt.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:56 | 5809432 GreatUncle
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The Greeks are so naive they don't get it yet.

Give them another 5 years of this "remember they don't have the money to pay the debt"  torment and eventually they have to walk away OR REMAIN IN THEIR CURRENT POSITION FOREVER.

That's the reality ... in what decade or century do you believe the country will be turned around economically?

Note:- By 2020 you will not be 120% of debt to GDP as you were promised / advised. On that planned outcome of 120% bandied around by the Troika that resulted in more lending you could never repay.

What a position? Held as a whipping post and you can't leave otherwise the ECB has to ensure your economic outcome is horrendous otherwise others may contemplate it.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 16:59 | 5809460 Hohum
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Yanis has to cut out the "growth" nonsense.  But because he doesn't, Greece will remain chained to the Euro.  Greece isn't willing to de-industrialze and live off their work.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 17:20 | 5809580 kchrisc
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Many here on ZH, and elsewhere, have focused on the potential collapse of the euro as if the banksters find that intolerable. However, with the clear signs of the dollar's collapse showing, and its planned replacement with an SDR fiat that will preserve the bulk of the banksters' fiat debts, and assets, comes the idea that the euro too will also be replaced with the SDR fiat.

We shall see, as the banksters, I am sure, have more criminality, deceits, false-flags, and bullets up their sleeves.

The banksters need to repay us.

 

Is painting "criminals" on a bank graffiti, or a warning?

 

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 17:24 | 5809602 gcjohns1971
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Six months is an extension to the pretension.

Four months is an exit to the Grexit.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 17:53 | 5809757 WTFUD
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6 months it's illegal to get rid of it and 4 months is borderline. I'm a bastard myself, i should know.

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