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Jeb Bush Believes Unconstitutional NSA Spying Is "Hugely Important"
Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
In some ways I’m actually looking forward to the imperial spectacle that will be the Jeb Bush vs. Hillary Clinton Presidential contest in 2016. Just like an alcoholic or drug addict is often unable to shake the cycle of addiction until hitting rock bottom, so too it seems the American peasantry must hit political rock bottom before becoming fed up enough to do something about it; and I can’t imagine a more odious, absurd scenario than being forced to chose between another Bush and another Clinton.
I’ve given Hillary a lot of grief here at Liberty Blitzkrieg, primarily because she’s an oligarch coddling embarrassment (links at the end). Jeb Bush hasn’t received the same treatment as of yet, but I’m going to do my best to make up for lost time.
Just yesterday, I highlighted his unsurprising neocon foreign policy chops in the piece, Jeb Bush Exposed Part 1 – His Top Advisors Will Be the Architects of His Brother’s Iraq War. Specifically, we learned that:
According to Reuters’ Steve Holland, Bush has tapped a “diverse” roster of former George W. Bush and George H. W. Bush officials to advise his burgeoning campaign on foreign policy, including key architects of the 2002 invasion of Iraq.
The list of advisers provided to Reuters by a campaign aid includes Paul Wolfowitz and Stephen Hadley, as well as former George W. Bush Homeland Security Secretaries Tom Ridge and Michael Chertoff, and Bush adviser Meghan O’Sullivan.
Imperial war monger: Check. What about his view on let’s say the 4th Amendment of the Constitution? He doesn’t seem to want to be bothered with such trivialities. The Wall Street Journal reports that:
Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who is seriously considering a run for the White House in 2016, said Wednesday that the National Security Agency’s program that collects bulk telephone records was “hugely important,” throwing his support behind the practice as Congress debates whether to reauthorize or limit it.
At an event on foreign policy hosted by the Chicago Council on Global Affairs, Mr. Bush, a Republican, said, “For the life of me, I don’t understand the debate” over the metadata program.
The program’s many supporters say it helps the U.S. government prevent terrorist attacks. But its critics believe it exists with little oversight and few boundaries and could allow the government to spy on U.S. citizens.
Interesting, how did the Wall Street Journal fail to mention that former NSA chief Keith Alexander admitted that the spying hasn’t achieved much of anything. In the 2013 article, NSA Chief Admits “Only One or Perhaps Two” Terror Plots Stopped by Spy Program, we learned that:
The Obama administration’s credibility on intelligence suffered another blow Wednesday as the chief of the National Security Agency admitted that officials put out numbers that vastly overstated the counterterrorism successes of the government’s warrantless bulk collection of all Americans’ phone records.
Pressed by the Democratic chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee at an oversight hearing, Gen. Keith B. Alexander admitted that the number of terrorist plots foiled by the NSA’s huge database of every phone call made in or to America was only one or perhaps two — far smaller than the 54 originally claimed by the administration.
As we know, never let the truth get in the way of a good story. Back to the WSJ.
Mr. Bush’s comments are significant, as the legal authority that allows the program to exist is set to expire in June. Congress is weighing whether to rework the program in a way that would strip the NSA of some of its powers.
Mr. Bush’s support for the metadata program puts him in sharp contrast with another likely GOP White House candidate, Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky.
Mr. Bush – as he made evident during his comments in Chicago – supports more government spending on the military and a broader military influence.
Reason accurately covered Jeb’s absurd position in its piece:, Jeb Bush: “I don’t understand the debate” Over the NSA’s Bulk Phone Records Collection Program. Here are some excerpts:
Does Jeb Bush truly not understand that some people—indeed, quite a lot of people—might find a vast, secret, program to spy on millions of citizens to be a little bit creepy? That many in the public might understandably find this to be a potential government overreach, or an abuse of federal power?
Perhaps he really doesn’t. If so, that should disqualify him from the GOP’s presidential nomination before his run even officially starts. But I doubt that he is truly as flummoxed by concerns about the program as his dismissive remark suggests.
Instead, I suspect he knows all too well what the program entails, what its critics argue, and why it has remained a topic of controversy for so long. But Jeb Bush does not want to defend the particulars of the initiative so much as he wants to publicly stand by his brother’s administration and then settle the issue by declaring that it is not one. Despite his declaration yesterday that he is his “own man,” and not his brother or father, he would not even broach the possibility that his brother’s program might be deserving of any critique.
Put another way: Jeb Bush claims he doesn’t understand the debate because he doesn’t want there to be a debate. But there is one, and if he is to run for president, he will have to take part in it.
BINGO. It’s like a Jedi mind trick. “These are not the drones you’re looking for…there is no debate, what debate, move along peasants…”
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For related articles, see:
First, this would be really funny if it was an Onion article as opposed to real life: Jeb Bush to Present the “Liberty Medal” to Hillary Clinton
Jeb Bush Exposed Part 1 – His Top Advisors Will Be the Architects of His Brother’s Iraq War
This is Why Rand Paul is Hilary Clinton’s Worst Nightmare
Glenn Greenwald on Hilary Clinton: “Soulless, Principle-Free, Power Hungry…”
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Bush '16, and Blankfein as Treasury Sec... Because what little amount of freedom or integrity this country may have needs to be completely stripped away.
Fucking criminals
Can we stand the suspense? Will Hitlery lick Bush or will Shrub The Younger keep it up to the bitter end??
As a conservative I am going to be voting for Jeb Bush. He has impeccable conservative credentials and, like Mitt Romney, is severely conservative. There is a lot of things to get done here in America and I hope Jeb Bush takes a lead on accomplishing these goals. First and foremost is banning guns which the people screamed for after the horrific incident at Sandy Hook, second is granting all of these hardworking undocumented workers the right to stay here permanently as well as bringing in millions more H1Bs to staff the tech companies that can't find qualified American workers, and lastly is to get control of the internet and shut down the hate speech web sites and those that distribute information that has been deemed to be incorrect.
There's a lot of work to be done and I know the vast majority of Americans want to get it done in spite of the kooks on the internet so let's vote for Jeb Bush and let's get it done!
He can work across the aisle and get thing done for the American People. It's time to unify the public in those matters we can all agree upon; tolerance, compassion, and protecting those most vulnerable.
Yes, I too can gargle with vomit. I choose a different path.
Hey, where's your sarc tag?
Gosh, yes! HW bailed out his airplane, Shrub bailed on DC when the Towers were hit, Shrub the Younger bailing out all those future Mexicans and giving them my tax money! Gee, what's not to like?
No really, where's your sarc tag? Otherwise, you're one fucking neat and clean cheerleader of the fascist state. You would deserve no mercy, because you'd have no reason....:)
I thought it was obvious when I got to the "...I am going to be voting..." part. Why did you bother reading past that?
Jeb / Palin? One can only hope!
No smart thinking conservative wants Jeb Bush. Give me one good rationally thought out reason that convinces you he is not a male version of Hillary.
Edit. Sorry I did not see the sarcasm. Guess I should have read it entirely.
Your satire needs a lot of work, or you're off your meds.
What difference,at this point, does it make ?
If being conservative means I like the government to spy on me then conservatives must be bad.
You had me at severely conservative.
CC, you are not MDB. Not that the current MDB holds a candle to the old MDB.
The sad thing is that some Americans would vote for this sack of shit, and would blindly agree with his agenda because he is on the red team.
Fuck Democrats, Fuck Republicans...I want my republic back from these globalists!
Where is a modern day Andrew Jackson when you need him?!?!?
There are two MDB's.
Million Dollar Bonus
Million Dollar Bogus
Oh and there's Meelion Dollar Boner
You mean, "Crony" Conservative---which I'm sure you, yourself are...
If Bush or Hitlery gets in I am going after the government in Canada and Mexico to put up border fences and calling Vlad and ask him for a free trade agreement.
I am tired of living next to a terrorist organization country which has nukes, used them, has agent orange and used it, has napalm and used it, cluster bombs and used them and has the audacity to pretent it has a moral higher ground. DC go to hell.
Jeb is going to be the next president. Hillary is going to get nominated and then get nadered. Jeb will win. Mark my words.
Sadly I have to agree. If we consider Ray-gun a Bush presidency (especially after the Bush family friend and a few others shot him up) and Nixon a Bush presidency (considering Prescott brought him into politics) and recognize that George HW played a pivotal role in the JFK hit, we really have had a pattern of Bushes occasionally interrupted by a controlled D. Besides, the families responsible for the mayhem are usually forced by the luciferian morals to stand up and take accountability for their actions in the form of leadership ie clean up their mess (w/out cleaning of course).
I know very smart, successful people in my own family who will definitely vote for him. I have FB friends who will definitely vote for him. And the machines are rigged anyway.
And if it's not him, we won't get a 911 truth candidate anyway. Without one, we're screwed anyway. So who cares? Might as well be Jeb. Then at least protesters will be in the street more. I'llbombya and Slick Willie presidencies keep folks out of the streets.
Fucking Shrub. Pox on all of them.
It would be nicer if it were Ron Paul versus Elizabeth Warren. Or even any of the two versus Bush or Clinton.
Ron Paul ain't runnin, Ludvig. And he wasn't a 911 truth candidate anyway and likely cut a deal w/the Rs so that his son could be senator-for-life. But whatever. Warrin' Warren supports all these dumb wars, opposes auditing the Fed, and votes for the NDAA. No help there, sorry.
Dick.
NWO cant lose, both of them are luciferians.
Tough choices , on one side we have Cunt 1 and on the other we have Cunt 2.... Decisions decisions .
I beg to differ sir. It's a giant couch and a turd sandwich.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UthMHjoNyjA
Great choice between Clinton and Bush. It is like to choose how to die
Raised by a criminal who was raised by a criminal, and brother of criminals, so is it any surprise that he's a criminal desiring to be a criminal puppet for the criminals of empire?
The banksters need to repay us.
Perry will be the next selected neo-con violence-puppet to occupy the Oval Office. These other criminal sock puppets are a distraction.
Um, raised by a criminal raised by a criminal raised by a criminal. Fixed it for ya.
And ever look into the Walker line? More of the same.
You get right on that champ.
What if Jeb Bush was a good guy wanting to make a change? What if he wanted to break away from the family and bring about positive change?
What would you want to see him do to convince you such were his intentions? What would you do to keep him in check?
There is no part of me that believes Jeb Bush is, was or ever will be a good guy. I ask these questions with the intent to stimulate intelligent discussion.
I try to imagine what life would be like being born in such a family. What do I know? How could anybody break free and make a positive change?
Ever hear the phrase that the apple does not fall far from the tree?
Let's look at the treasonous Bush family history, shall we?
Great Granddad Samuel Prescott Bush sold armaments to the German's in WWI (lookup the Nye Committee)-->http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x633661
Granddad Prescott Bush supported the Nazi's -->http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar
Daddy was head of the CIA (untold evil done by him during this time) and a shitty president
His one brother was part of S&L scandal and the other a shitty president who now paints pets.
Don't get me wrong, Hillary is an evil NeoCon bitch, but let's not fool ourselves that Jeb would be any better.
I am asking What if?
<<Ever hear the phrase that the apple does not fall far from the tree?>>
Yes, I have. I am not disputing that Jeb is just as bad as the rest of his family and I am not expecting him to change.
If my question is unclear, let me rephrase it: What would YOU do if you were born Jeb Bush and you wanted to make a postive change?
I have no idea what I would do but I pray that 1 day in the future, somebody genuinely GOOD does get born among their ilk.
First off, American Presidents are *selected* by TPTB, several Davos/Bilderberg/Sintra meetings ahead of the election. The election process is just an entertainment spectacle, rather than where the President is actually chosen.
The only ones even considered for the job, which includes a private chef, lots of vacations and possible golf dates, are those that are already completely owned.
Going off the reservation is just not going to happen (more than once).
"What if Jeb Bush was a good guy wanting to make a change? What if he wanted to break away from the family and bring about positive change? "
Not possible, but if it were, he'd be given another open car ride through Dallas by his grandfather.
The banksters need to repay us.
What would YOU do if you were born in his shoes?
Go fishing and play golf. Help some folks. Anything but become a drone leader.
I would blow the fucking whistle on everything from the October Surprise to Obama's inuaguration.
Kind of makes you wonder how those two Kennedy boys broke away from their controllers. Answer? Best I have come up with in years of research is that their daddy had a stroke and was likely a primary controller. Then they got into some of that high-grade gov LSD. Mary Pinchot Meyer and Timothy Leary anyone?
And we all know what happened to the two of them.
As for GHW Bush's criminality, add Air America heroin, tons of murders in South America, and of course the JFK hit.
Actually, a Bush/Clinton election would be healthy for the country because it would be extremely difficult to ignore the obvious then. But never underestimate the stupidity of the average, brainwashed American. Sigh.
It makes NO difference which one of these fucksticks gets elected. We are truly fucked.
And, what makes it sooo fucking sick twisted and evil is we know one of these two will be our next Regent!
Read about Neil Bush's little game during the s&l crisis. The entire family is involved in some dirty business. How karma has not affected that family I will never know. Maybe they have made a deal with Lucifer.
and the baseball commissioner
And while we're looking into the Bush family crimes, can anyone tell me about Marvin Bush and Bertha Champagne? 911 truth much?
My 84 year old mother said it all after being a staunch Republican all her life, "No one is going to vote for Jeb Bush."
Please give that smart lady a big hug.
If I vote at all, I will not be voting for Jeb Bush.
That whole family has dirt.on its.hands.
I can't wait for all the neocon talk shows and TV hosts trying to desperately persuade everyone why we need a third Bush in the White House.
If a majority of folks want to be "Bush"whacked for a third-time, who am I to stand in their way. Who ever wrote that "the voters get the government they deserve" was certainly right-on. This is mainly the result of accepting whatever they're "told what to think" instead of having been "taught how to think."
If people voted for Obama twice, a Bush hat trick is certainly possible.
My new bumper sticker;
If you want an American Monarchy vote for
Bush for the Red King or Clinton for the Blue Queen
Or maybe I need two and depending on who I'm speaking with I'll see if I can give them one depending on how they have been programed. On my truck I'll put a red one on the right side and a blue one on the left side and a Halaburton sticker in the middle.
if they truly loved america they would get divorced and marry each other and present us with a long line of heirs---long live the king---I can't believe I just thought of that--total puke--
I'd be all for this NSA spying if I were plugged into the information distribution list by my birthright. I tremble at the fail safe investment decisions I could make with such information at my disposal.
He also bears a striking resemblance to the older version of Alister Crowley with those big floppy jowls of his. I resemble my maternal grandfather too.
Actually, some say Crowley is Barbara's real daddy. Not saying I believe it. Not saying I don't.
http://www.rense.com/general77/acrow.htm
"I am not my brother, I am not my father."
- Jeb Bush
Yeah. no shit. Your worse. And you call yourself a republican you piece of shit. Listen to your mother when she said we don't need another Bush.
A-Fucking-men
The entire Bush family going back 4 generations are a steaming pile of shit.
The internet has exposed these traitors for the scumbags that they are (much like the Serial Rapist Clinton and his evil conspirator),
why would anybody vote for either monster in the next election?
Critical thinking seems to be a dying skill...
So the Deep State puts forth Bush and Clinton. Excuse me while I go puke.
Arrest him and deport all his treasonous relatives to Somalia.
No way! Air drop them into the Islamic Caliphate. Better for them, better for us. We can just say that they were destined for the moderate Syrian rebels, but the wind blew them off course. Hey, it works for the neo-cons, so it'll work for the nation. I'm taking donations to help pay for the jet fuel and parachutes. Send all checks payable to the Grekko Foundation, dedicated to the betterment of mankind.
Are we going to have to support ISIS to get rid of these fucks? What a turn of events.
I sent a check to Ben Carson.
Now there's a real surprise. A scion of Prescott Bush, the great Nazi banking supporter, thinks the 4th amendment is a joke and not worth debate? I'm shocked I tell you...shocked!
The more insulting thing as kreiger points out is the fact that he is presenting Hillary Clittongue with the liberty medal.
What a shitshow of an abortion of our liberties.
Fuck Jeb bush.
American taxpayers covered his bank robbing antics here in Fl. to the tune of $4.5 million.
Broward Federal Savings and Loan, about 1985 or so.
Jeb vs Hillary will be good bukkake theater. Ya know, over at veterans tiday, they have a ton of evidence of jeb's involvement in overseeing the CIA drug running operations for several years. At least he has experience doing something, unlike Obama.
Um, bukkake theater starring either one would be akin to watching a snuff film, extremely revolting. JMO :)
Do you really get to choose your President?
From over here it looks like it will be a choice of Bush/Clinton. Millions of candidates and that's it?
How did it come to this? The chances of USA having first woman in the top job right after first black man = 0
All hail Jeb suckers.
"Do you really get to choose your President?"
You do if you want to. It is the internet age. You don't have to vote republican or democrat. As a body, the internetters can come together and choose our own independent candidate.
Ross Perot ran in 1992. He generated a lot of interest. In the internet age, an independent Presidential candidate should be able to "go viral", just like a Youtube video.
Anyone who gets remotely popular is smashed by the media cronies that get perks/handouts/bribed/threatened.
They are tried and executed by MSM for things they may/not have done. Google 'Pauline Hanson' etc.
The world isn't a fair rosey place we want it to be, and the powers that be will fight to the last slander to stay on top of the hill.
The USA would be in the same boat me thinks.
Who are they really?
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_bush19.htm
No one has to vote republican or democrat for President.
Why not elect the first internet President, bypassing both major political parties?
Bush or Clinton is not a choice.
You can down thumb me all day long. What some ZH posters don’t know is about Trichotomy of Modernity. Each time you blend a new Terrorist threat, we have a good laugh.
Welcome to the Global Community. Might be tough for Central Bankers to explain were to money went to invest in semi-periphery countries. Most of the elites will be found humping a NGO to receive an invisible paper trail.
Jeb, we voted for your father. The clan bullshit is over. Regarding the Clinton circus acts. Have your father in the wheelchair get sucked off by Hillary. Have your Presidential icon brother get butt fucked by Bill Clinton so they can gain a 2% voting margin. Jeb, your mother told you not to pull off this bullshit. What kind of son doesn’t listen to his mother? Hillary is DOA.
We need new blood. Hillary can only pass if they pencil whip the medical report.
Hey "Jebby", let me ask you a question - and I'll try being diplomatic:
Are all you Bush kids dumb-fcuks? tia
I hope every shitty little detail of his fucking life is open for review and scorn.
The first thing any president is supposed to do is defend the constitution, not stomp on it.
Fuck this dummy. They're all crooks that will say anything it takes, then do what the JWO wants, so when will people learn?
I'll finally start voting again for the first sumbitch that wants to annihilate Israel, then we'll know he might be real.
You just have to defund foreign assistance. Anyone can turn them into a glass parking lot. Be smart, liquidate budgets.
http://www.foreignassistance.gov/web/rgaintro.aspx
http://www.usaid.gov/sites/default/files/documents/9276/222898.pdf
They want another 2015 3.1 billion for Israel, fuck them. Show me the excel file on ROI. Just google the last 5 years of feeding the Jew parasites. What have you gotten in a monetary return of 5% for a one year US Taxpayer investment?
FFS - over 320 M people and we can't come up with anyone other than a Bush or Clinton. a fukin joke
The program exists to suppress political dissent. See, it wasn't that hard to understand after all.
If he doesnt understand the furor he is too stupid to continue.
Jeb or Hillary will work under the same boss as Obama works for. A 50 cal sniper bullet will put an end to the big boss.
It's ok to laugh big boss, until it becomes your obituary. We know who you are, so does about 2 million other people. Are you still laughing? What a shame power and greed got the best of you.
Jeb is just a jewel, isn't he?
Nothing says hate like .308, fellas.
That photo must be old. Isn't that blond twat to the left in hiding?
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Rolling around on the floor, dressing up as a bush and smashing tiles over their heads: ISIS 'special forces' video reveals ludicrous training
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2959969/Rolling-floor-dressing-bush-smashing-tiles-heads-ISIS-special-forces-video-reveals-ludicrous-training.html
Just what we need, another fucking NAZI in the White House. What will be Jeb's Reich Stag fire? His big brothers was 911. Fucking Republicans. They're every bit as pathetic as the Democrats.
This is the worst fucking torture imaginable - we're nearly 2 years out and we have to listen to this political campaign garbage, believe me, Ebola would be a welcome relief just to keep the political crap off the air...
Round 3 of the Republican, Global Government, New World Order Bush Crowd or Round 2 of the Democrat, Global Government, New World Order Order Clinton Crowd. That is a choice?
It seems like America needs to draft a suicide note.
Jeb Bush is in no way his own man.
Jeb Bush is a signer of the Statement of Principles of the Project for a New American Century which set out to engage in a hundred years war to establish American global political and military supremacy.
The Iraq War begun under false premises such as that Al Qaeda was based in Iraq(it was not since Iraq was a secular state under Saddam) and the lie regarding'weapons of mass destruction' by Jeb's brother's government were motivated andcarried out by PNAC.
Other signers in the Neocon shadow government included,
Elliott Abrams, Gary Bauer, William J. Bennett, John Ellis "Jeb" Bush
Dick Cheney, Eliot A. Cohen, Midge Decter, Paula Dobriansky
Steve Forbes, Aaron Friedberg, Francis Fukuyama, Frank Gaffney
Fred C. Ikle, Donald Kagan, Zalmay Khalilzad, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby
Norman Podhoretz, J. Danforth Quayle, Peter W. Rodman
Stephen P. Rosen, Henry S. Rowen, Donald Rumsfeld, Vin Weber,
George Weigel, Paul Wolfowitz
to give you an idea of who you are signing on to even allowing Jeb Bush to run for President.
Other ongoing projects set out by PNAC include destabilizing the Middle East and Mediterranean theater and destroying Russia and China as world super powers – subjugating all of them in order to create rule by NeoCons of the world through the power of the United States.
PNAC and the PNAC website are long gone in efforts to cleanse the trail from Jeb Bush to acts of the previous George W. Bush regime which in many places outside the united states has left G.W. Bush as no more than a war criminal.
One can find information on PNAC at wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century and here at the Library of Congress archive http://www.loc.gov/item/lcwa00010308 .
Do not be fooled by the disinformation campaign going on. Jeb Bush represents interest that are not 'for the people by the people.' Don't let the Neo-Cons andthe conservative run Republican Party continue to steal your government from you.
Liars deserve nothing but the infamy and punishments they bring upon themselves.
Even if you agree with some of the intentions of PNAC clearly co-opting Democracy to replace it with a shadow government which is basically a military industrial fascist force using deception to undermine the Democracy of the United Statesis not the way to go about it.
And if we take a good look at 911, we see the same folks behind it.
I can't think of a better Nero to be fiddling as his family's destruction of the United States reaches its zenith.
Carroll Quigley's Tragedy and Hope is all you need to know.
MANNING / SNOWDEN 2016
It would be a lot more honest if Jeb challenged Nuttinyahoo in the upcoming election.
Amerika loves its demons - this one has a good chance at being POTUS.
Amerikans need to give-up this quaint notion that elections matter. The elections are bought and sold with healthy helpings of Miliary, Social and Other Welfare programs known as .gov jobs. Their collective effect is to reelect themselves even healthier portions of the non .gov electorate wealth (even their helpless unborn progeny). How about we ban votes from .gov? That would be a nice change.