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Ron Paul: "Interventionism Kills" Post-Coup Ukraine One Year Later
Submitted by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institute For Peace & Prosperity,
It was one year ago last weekend that a violent coup overthrew the legally elected government of Ukraine. That coup was not only supported by US and EU governments -- much of it was actually planned by them. Looking back at the events that led to the overthrow it is clear that without foreign intervention Ukraine would not be in its current, seemingly hopeless situation.
By the end of 2013, Ukraine’s economy was in ruins. The government was desperate for an economic bailout and then-president Yanukovych first looked west to the US and EU before deciding to accept an offer of help from Russia. Residents of south and east Ukraine, who largely speak Russian and trade extensively with Russia were pleased with the decision. West Ukrainians who identify with Poland and Europe began to protest. Ukraine is a deeply divided country and the president came from the eastern region.
At this point the conflict was just another chapter in Ukraine’s difficult post-Soviet history. There was bound to be some discontent over the decision, but if there had been no foreign intervention in support of the protests you would likely not be reading this column today. The problem may well have solved itself in due time rather than escalated into a full-out civil war. But the interventionists in the US and EU won out again, and their interventionist project has been a disaster.
The protests at the end of 2013 grew more dramatic and violent and soon a steady stream of US and EU politicians were openly participating, as protesters called for the overthrow of the Ukrainian government. Senator John McCain made several visits to Kiev and even addressed the crowd to encourage them.
Imagine if a foreign leader like Putin or Assad came to Washington to encourage protesters to overthrow the Obama Administration!
As we soon found out from a leaked telephone call, the US ambassador in Kiev and Assistant Secretary of State, Victoria Nuland, were making detailed plans for a new government in Kiev after the legal government was overthrown with their assistance.
The protests continued to grow but finally on February 20th of last year a European delegation brokered a compromise that included early elections and several other concessions from Yanukovych. It appeared disaster had been averted, but suddenly that night some of the most violent groups, which had been close to the US, carried out the coup and Yanukovych fled the country.
When the east refused to recognize the new government as legitimate and held a referendum to secede from the west, Kiev sent in tanks to force them to submit. Rather than accept the will of those seeking independence from what they viewed as an illegitimate government put in place by foreigners, the Obama administration decided to blame it all on the Russians and began imposing sanctions!
That war launched by Kiev has lasted until the present, with a ceasefire this month brokered by the Germans and French finally offering some hope for an end to the killing. More than 5,000 have been killed and many of those were civilians bombed in their cities by Kiev.
What if John McCain had stayed home and worried about his constituents in Arizona instead of non-constituents 6,000 miles away? What if the other US and EU politicians had done the same? What if Victoria Nuland and US Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt had focused on actual diplomacy instead of regime change?
If they had done so, there is a good chance many if not all of those who have been killed in the violence would still be alive today. Interventionism kills.
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how dare anyone question the neverending warmongering. must be a terrorist or something
John McCain was not concerned about non constituents any more than Osama bin Laden was concerned about non continuants.
The US needs war to expand debt and cover the general collapse of western economies.
pods
http://fortruss.blogspot.com.au/2015/02/a-letter-from-crimean-to-ukraini...
Good letter from a free Crimean to a West Uke IMF slave.
I read the letter.
Funny how the will of the people is ignored, isn't it?
Most Americans I know are pretty decent people who would not like to be in that situation either, yet it is happening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgpsXFMU6B4#t=321
Good interview with subtitles from DPR commander.
my co-worker's ex-wife makes $80 hourly on the computer . She has been out of work for 10 months but last month her paycheck was $12310 just working on the computer for a few hours. look at this now... www.globe-report.com
Sovereign Citizen Extremist (SCE).
USA OUT OF EURASIA
USA OUT OF EURASIA
USA OUT OF EURASIA
USA OUT OF EURASIA
USA OUT OF EURASIA
USA OUT OF EURASIA
USA OUT OF USA while we're at it.......
Use their own resources to settle it, to start with the Ukraine should of conscripted Pussy Riot and sent them to the front lines.
Sorry, that would be a cruel and unusual punishment.
Look what intervention in Iraq has accomplished. Wherever the US intervenes, that country becomes a failed state - Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Pakistan, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Ukraine. Besides, just the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan cost $6 trillion.
US Sponsored Genocide Against Iraq 1990-2012. Killed 3.3 Million, Including 750,000 Childrenhttp://www.globalresearch.ca/us-sponsored-genocide-against-iraq-1990-201...
Cost to US of Iraq and Afghan wars could hit $6 trillion
The cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan could reach as high as $6 trillion dollars – or $75,000 for every household in America – a new study from Harvard University has found.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9961877/Cost-...
Don't worry about Iraq. The Australian Prime Minister wants Australia to go it alone and send in 3500 troops to fight IS.
He is just trying to re-create that other Australian military success known as Gallipoli. He's a fan of Churchill after all.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/tony-abbott-in-damage-control-over-claims-he-wanted-to-send-3500-troops-to-iraq-to-combat-is-terrorists/story-fni0cx4q-1227233361994?nk=4d351c6e6e5e78d6d20d0f35f5ebe656
It'll be a flop if it ever gets off the ground.
Follow the money.
Don't forget Vietnam.
They had to get the hell out and the 'commies' took over. Now Nike makes their shoes there and pays the locals a pittance.
Ron Paul served in the military as a Doctor. He saw first hand the sacrificies of the troops and 'enemy' casualties, civilian and military.
Why?
To satisfy some power lust?
I am sure there is something greater than ourselves out there and there will be payback, one way or the other.
But people still go and join the Army that take a special kind of stupid , wanting to give your chance of a life on this plant to killing other people.
It takes a real asshol to go around assuming he know's the reason for people doing things.
As a staunch Liberal, I think Ron Paul is racist against Ukranians... :D
as a right rightwinger i think paul is a pussy pacifist who loves muslims so he can't be a real christian.
It's hard to tell if you're on the right or left. Some people say that Communism is the far left of the spectrum and Facism is the far right. Then some people say that facism, communism, and all other big government isms are on the far left, and anarchy is on the far right.
Am I a left winger or a right winger? I combine elements of both. I've been variously called a Libertarian, a classic liberal, an anarchist, and a nutjob.
Don't be too sure of where you fall on the political spectrum. More importantly, it doesn't really matter.
the sarcastic party.
the right is promic.paul is antimic. the right is antimuslim, proisrael and are wacko christians. paul is not antimuslim. he is anti israel and is a better christian than most making that claim(which should include a strong antiwar view).
Pacifism is not a Christian doctrine; nor is 'antimuslim' a word.
Communism, Fascism and Anarchism are all of them on the left, as are 'classical Liberalism' and 'Libertarianism'. All of these are revolutionary ideologies opposed, by varying degrees and in various ways, to the traditional social order which those sitting on the right side of the National Assembly were trying to preserve. A Western 'right winger' is a monarchist and at least culturally Catholic, or he isn't one at all.
"Imagine if a foreign leader like Putin or Assad came to Washington to encourage protesters to overthrow the Obama Administration!"
uh...
Hey, if I thought we could get Russian support, I know a bunch of guys who'd be interested.
i wouldn't be among them :-) This thing is on fire now, though few people smell it. The smart play is to get to the periphery and make all the friends you can, rich and poor! If you live in a large city, damn well have an exit strategy, and a good one.
Netanyahu does...
Focusing on diplomacy and or worrying about constituents..
Where's the reward, and glory in that Ron?
Mr. Paul, how you where part of this sewer of a government all those yrs. and managed to keep your morality, sanity, and integrity is without a doubt one of the greatest feats in the political history of this nation..
he shouldn't touch nailguns
Without the wars the US would be in major depression and the 1% would have losses - Can't have that...
What the world needs is more unemployed politicians.
As always Dr Paul is a voice of reason and clear thinking. If the 535 cocksuckers currently slithering thru the halls of congress had 1/10th of his integrity we would be in a better place.
Guess which country's companies make more money on war than any other's? http://www.fastcodesign.com/3042669/infographic-of-the-day/infographic-a... by @DrCrypt via @FastCoDesign
Surprising no one, the United States makes more money on war than any other country. Really, it's not even close.
Rapid prototyping stocks have sold off a lot.
If I were to pick the "pure play war monger trade" that would be it. Those are machines that can recreate themselves...perhaps quite rapidly actually.
Certainly faster than you or I could count.
"Large numbers can equal big math" too.
I think what Doctor Paul is saying is spot on...just too late. This needed to be said BEFORE Putin went into Ukraine and BEFORE Kerry et al went to Kiev.
The American people SHOULD be concerned...and this site is right to bring up the subject as no one else...on either side incredibly...will.
This region has been the "canvas" if you will of the most destructive wars in all of human history.
PERIOD.
So guess what USA...its already too late for leavin.
Ron Paul is a 21st century Cicero. Able to see the decay of his civilization, trying valiantly to stop it, and ultimately failing.
Knowing the truth of the future and speaking it, only to have your observations ignored.
We are relegated to being modern day Cassandras.
George Friedman, The Next Dacade, Chapter 9 "Europe's Return to History" (2011), there is everything that you need to know.
Our GDP depends on Killin folks
Interventionalism is the ultimate (violent) manifestation of Big Government intrusion. Not content at the Imperial intrusion in the lives of it's own citizens- the insatiable goliath seeks adventures abroad.
Republicans and Democrats are perfectly at ease with the thought of violent government actions as long as their chosen party is in power.
Each of the parties was against it's behavior when they were out of power. And for it, when they were in power.
The politicians should should just put and "R" and a "D" next to their names. Same shit, different asshole.
Vichy DC is acting under the assumption that eventually one of its interventions will pay off.
Like Obongo and McCunt care about any normal people(s) in ANY country.
lol
Fuck the NU_land !
We intervened on some folks.
Wrong!
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As BND states in the report for Merkel /see spiegel.de/
the number is ways to small by an order of magnitude of 10.
According to BND the casualties of in Ukraine after less, than one year, is 50.000 excessive deaths / fifty thousand / and not 5.000.
It reached the levels of Syria or Iraq.
People are being starved to hunger death, people are being killed by fascist Banderas.
If only the good die young McCain's gonna live a million years. There's no fool like an old fool.
RON PAUL
Probably the greatest US President the Americans were never allowed to have.
What's left out is WHY Yanukovych shelved the EU deal. The EU insisted on last minute demands just before Yanukovych was about to sign the EU trade agreement. Included among them was a demand to release Yulia Tymoshenko which basically resulted in Yanukovych's majority party to shelve the agreement. Without Europe's last minute interferrence, the agreement would have been signed and there would be no war.
They had to know that these demands would stir up conflict in parliament. It did and within weeks, Tymoshenkos radical right wing "fatherland" party had thugs in the streets killing civilians and police. They kicked Yanukovych out and Ms. Tymoshenko was released calling for "real " Ukrainians to nuke ethnic russians in the east and leave no unscorched fields in Russia.
We knew what we were doing and our puppet government, many of whom had been on the US payroll for years, was ready to be put in place.
Of course its all Putin and Russias fault!
Video from Nov. 20, 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&x-yt-ts=1422503916...