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The 'Big' Problem In America (In 1 Cartoon)

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One big problem... or two?

 

 

h/t @RudyHavenstein

 

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Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:06 | 5824368 Thirst Mutilator
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A house divided... Oh wait!

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:08 | 5824382 swmnguy
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Hey!  It's the same buidling!  Is that significant?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:16 | 5824402 lordylord
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I have never met a person who was in favor of smaller government and didn't also deride banking institutions and the Federal Reserve.

However, I have met people who were in favor of more government to be completely clueless in every possible way.

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:17 | 5824424 cherry picker
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They weren't clueless.  They owe their existence to Big Bro as no one else would hire them.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:26 | 5824443 Thirst Mutilator
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 "Hey!  It's the same buidling!  Is that significant?"

 

In that case ~ Pull it!

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:34 | 5824481 nuubee
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Celtic fan or Laker fan, the refs and commisioner are the same people. It behoves the sane person to not get too distracted by how well (or badly) their team does.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:07 | 5824636 Uchtdorf
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Just one wing of the large and spacious building. Know what I mean?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:32 | 5824757 SumTing Wong
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See...and I thought the two problems were the Wookkie and PrezBO

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:01 | 5824845 Billy the Poet
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Banks wouldn't be a threat absent the Federal Reserve Act and legal tender laws. Fiat banks without government sponsorship would gain no traction in a free market. Government is the problem.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:57 | 5825032 Pseudonymous
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I think "Big banks" here represents the Fed and all banks which buy government bonds.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 02:17 | 5825868 Hugh_Jorgan
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Other than the fact that government IS in bed with banks and corporations, this is an idiotic graphic. The problem begins and ends with our corrupt government. The banks and "evil" corporations can only do what they can legally do by law. If we want ONE place to fix instead of two we go after the government. The Tea Party are made up of producers who understand this concept. Occupy is made up of the brainiacs in our entitlement class and 20-something socialist stoolies unwittingly marching to the drums of "collapse the whole thing into the waiting arms of globalism".

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 05:52 | 5826128 Pseudonymous
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I think the point is that if you fix (destroy) the fraudulent banking system the government also follows. Indeed governments today are so heavily dependent on financing that comes from the central and commercial banks that if the fraudulent schemes (fiat money, fractional reserve banking, etc.) collapsed then the governments around the world would also likely collapse.

However, I don't completely agree with that as a real long term solution, since an important matter of principle would remain unresolved. And there I agree with you that the problem begins with the government, and more specifically with the coercive imposition of taxes, which (among other things that governments do) violates the non-aggression principle.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 07:54 | 5826214 ymom11
Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:27 | 5824454 Anusocracy
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When you are a parasite it is easy to justify parasitism.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:31 | 5824468 nuubee
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When you are a parasite, it is life-threatening to do otherwise.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:44 | 5824785 Kassandra
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Not in the distant past receiving welfare, or any kind of handout was a total social stigma. These days, it has been raised to an art form and you are considered a fool if you don't participate.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 00:38 | 5825574 Anusocracy
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There are innate parasites, government and its cronies, and adaptive parasites, generally decent people being crushed by the actions of government, often with few choices left.

A major part of government's raison d'etre is offering a subsistent living to the victims it creates and in doing so, creates the conditions for more victims.

In nature, a predator or parasite doesn't benefit its victim, neither does government.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:47 | 5824543 Abitdodgie
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Someone who is adapted tp live in today's society is a very sick person.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:07 | 5824570 Harbanger
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The Nanny state and Grievance Politics, dude.   But first you must separate all Citizens into groups.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:09 | 5824385 Truther
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Either one... We're Fucked unless....

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:31 | 5824467 venturen
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Sorry they left out the media...which in the past at least use to make an effort.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:05 | 5824601 Harbanger
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The News Media was the last bastion of a free people and is why we have a 1st Amendment.  Their purpose was to keep the politicians honest and report the facts.  Now that they control the MSM but are losing viewership,  they're targeting the internet with new legislation like Net Neutrality.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:49 | 5824807 drendebe10
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"Government is not the solution to our problem.  Government is the problem." 

Ronald Reagan, former spokesman for 20 Mule Team Boraxo and Host of Death Valley Days....  oh, yea, President of the United States who restored America's confidence, optimism and global greatness following the second worst democrap president in history....

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:03 | 5824855 Billy the Poet
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Problem is he was talking in his sleep when he said it.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:20 | 5824892 amadeus39
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He had a dream. What's wrong with that?  A very important person based his plan to improve society on a dream.

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:22 | 5824898 Billy the Poet
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Maybe you're right. Last night I dreamed about chicken and today I had chicken for lunch. That's got to mean something.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:13 | 5825102 Redneck Hippy
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Failed union president.  Bad actor.  Terrible president.  Ballooned the national debt, made big government bigger than ever, while claiming to do the opposite.

Thank God for Nancy's fortune teller, otherwise nobody could make decisions in the White House.

 

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 19:17 | 5829092 Scarlett
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When Ron Paul denounces Reagan, I know what side I'm in.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 00:28 | 5825541 ThirteenthFloor
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"Money is the root of all evil". You will find the answer in that.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 08:08 | 5826229 sidney sloth
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The love of money is held to be the root of all evil.

Get it right.

NEIN!

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 02:22 | 5825890 one_hundred
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my neighbor's mother makes $86 /hr on the computer . She has been laid off for 10 months but last month her pay was $21128 just working on the computer for a few hours. go to the website... www.globe-report.com

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:14 | 5824375 JustObserving
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Big government and big banks are just the facade of the Deep State that runs the Orwellian-named land of the free.

The American Deep State: Wall Street, Big Oil and the Attack on U.S. Democracy

we now have “two governments: the one its citizens were familiar with, operated more or less in the open: the other a parallel top secret government whose parts had mushroomed in less than a decade into a gigantic, sprawling universe of its own…“

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-american-deep-state-wall-street-big-oil...

There is the visible government situated around the Mall in Washington, and then there is another, more shadowy, more indefinable government that is not explained in Civics 101 or observable to tourists at the White House or the Capitol. The former is traditional Washington partisan politics: the tip of the iceberg that a public watching C-SPAN sees daily and which is theoretically controllable via elections. The subsurface part of the iceberg I shall call the Deep State, which operates according to its own compass heading regardless of who is formally in power. 

http://billmoyers.com/2014/02/21/anatomy-of-the-deep-state/

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:22 | 5824436 Anusocracy
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Deep state and banksterism won't occur without government.

If want government then you are the problem.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 00:33 | 5825560 ThirteenthFloor
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What came first the banker or politician. Govt. appears as a result of the accumulation of wealth. No wealth no govt.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 00:44 | 5825587 Anusocracy
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Government is the alpha-male social hierarchy enabled by a top-down chain of command structure.

The alpha-male put his fist in your face, a ruler puts the fists of tens or thousands of his/her minions in your face.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 10:00 | 5826568 ThirteenthFloor
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Animal societies dominated by alpha male, but gorillas do not form governments.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:30 | 5824463 Chupacabra-322
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Anyone catch this gem today:

"The Disappeared: Chicago Police DetIn Americans at Abuse-Laden Black Site"

The Chicago police department operates an off-the-books interrogation compound, rendering Americans unable to be found by family or attorneys while locked inside what lawyers say is the domestic equivalent of a CIA black site.

The facility, a nondescript warehouse on Chicago’s west side known as Homan Square, has long been the scene of secretive work by special police units. Interviews with local attorneys and one protester who spent the better part of a day shackled in Homan Square describe operations that deny access to basic constitutional rights.

Alleged police practices at Homan Square, according to those familiar with the facility who spoke out to the Guardian after its investigation into Chicago police abuse, include:

-Keeping arrestees out of official booking databases.
-Beating by police, resulting in head wounds.
-Shackling for prolonged periods.
-Denying attorneys access to the “secure” facility.
-Holding people without legal counsel for between 12 and 24 hours, including people as young as 15.
-At least one man was found unresponsive in a Homan Square “interview room” and later pronounced dead.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/24/chicago-police-detain-ame...

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:41 | 5824506 TheReplacement
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And there isn't one person in Chicago that will burn that mother down instead of doing all the other illegal things they do on a daily basis. 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:49 | 5824554 Chupacabra-322
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The Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. is well past becoming the Fourth Riech. We are the Fourth Reich. Keep your power dry. The Boston Bombimg was just a lockdown BETA Test of Martial Law.

If & when the time comes. If it's wearing a Costume Aim Small & drop them at the knees.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:07 | 5824860 Billy the Poet
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Don't hurt the guys in Indian costumes tossing boxes of tea. They're friendlies.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:49 | 5824556 Thirst Mutilator
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Rahm Emmanuel is very concerned about this & will be looking into the matter

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:58 | 5824596 Chupacabra-322
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The Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. sets a precedent to all other Corp. government agencies (like local police) that it's ok to flout the "law."

When the top dog tells the public "fu#k off, we'll do what we like and not hold anyone accountable", all the smaller dogs follow suit.

So, when you see local police abusing the public and no one doing anything about it, you're seeing the smaller dogs following the Criminal "UNITED STATES, CORP. INC".

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:59 | 5824598 Abitdodgie
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If you have not noticed the ploice are a standing and occupying army killing off American's as they feel like it , and what do American's do about it NOTHING why because they have no ball's . There will be very few who do something about it and they will be left high and dry by the other American's that are to busy filming it on there IPhone's. I ask you this the police kill one unarmed civilian every 8 hours and there has not been one retaliation killing , what does that say to you ?

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 01:38 | 5825803 Major Malfunction
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Sure there's been. That guy in New York City, that shot and killed two police officers sitting in their car.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:08 | 5824376 Never One Roach
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Rule will allow spouses of some H-1B visa holders to work in U.S.

 

Nearly 180,000 spouses of workers with H-1B visas would be eligible for employment in the U.S. under new rules issued by the Department of Homeland Security.

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/news/news-wire/2015/02/24/rule-will-a...

 

Very "Robust" legislation. If you thought your wages were stagnant or dropping before, you better sit down (and start saving like a Madman!) cause it's going to get alot worse.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:11 | 5824393 CH1
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If you want to keep foreigners out, you want big government.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:17 | 5824422 Doubleguns
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WRONG!!!  No I did not junk ya. Big govt wants the cheap labor, big labor wants the votes for the left.  They all want foreigners and it matters not if they are legal. 

 

Liberty minded folks, the unemployed, folks with common sense and folks waiting in ling to immigrate here  want to keep the illegals out. 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:22 | 5824441 847328_3527
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Lessons from the IBM layoffs: How to give employees bad news

 

IBM is laying off thousands of employees in what the company calls "resource actions."

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/how-to/human-resources/2015/02/ibm-la...

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:35 | 5824456 Thirst Mutilator
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 "If you want to keep foreigners out, you want big government."

 

If you want to keep dual passports IN, you want big government AND big banks. [which essentially qualifies you as an idiot or a criminal]

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 00:45 | 5824597 Anusocracy
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Our society consists almost entirely of responses to government actions. Including your reply...passports, big government, big banks - can't get more governmenty than that.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:06 | 5824631 Abitdodgie
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Yes IBM is laying off lot's of people because the NSA has fucked it up for them who wnat's to buy there shit when it all has a back door to steal corp secrets and personal shit , would you buy there crap?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:28 | 5824458 drdolittle
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and solid one party voters. They are going to give illegals the right to vote. This is the end

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:42 | 5824518 TheReplacement
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Do not worry.  I downvoted him for you.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:38 | 5824490 Monetas
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It's about Obama's big government bringing in Muslims by the planeload .... unloading them at the far side of the airport .... giving them $5K in cash .... putting them in government contracted buses .... fast tracking all their immigration papers .... setting them up in Hud Section 8 housing .... a big government, turnkey operation .... this is not about Libertarian freedom to migrate !

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:11 | 5824866 Billy the Poet
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Final destination: under a bed near you! And don't forget to check the closet, they're sneaky bastards.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:40 | 5824503 Anusocracy
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Exactly. Government creates a problem, offers itself as the solution, and obtains more power as a result.

Now, can any of the government lovers think outside the box and explain why that is so?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:41 | 5824780 sidney sloth
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Good to see an axiomatic piece of logic getting downvoted like a pork chop at an ISIS BBQ.

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:50 | 5824562 edwin23
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the H1-b visa program that takes jobs from USA workrs  is bad enough & now their spouses will take more jobs. 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:09 | 5824647 Abitdodgie
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If you think of it this way .Obama's ONE job is to do everything he can to destroy America , then everything makes perfect sence. Come on it's not rocket sience.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:56 | 5824835 edwin23
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on the H1-b subject the repubs vote 100 % while the Dems vote95% .  Both parties want to hurt the USA workers while helping the elites

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:07 | 5824379 CunnyFunt
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The chicken or the egg?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:33 | 5824476 disabledvet
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They forgot "Big Bubble."

 

The American Troika.

 

Big Government,  Big Business and Big Bubble.

 

The rest of us are just bit players in a Douglas Adams cartoon.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 01:46 | 5825820 Phil Free
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"..and then of course I've got this terrible pain in all the diodes down my left side....."

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:10 | 5824387 rickv404
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Big government is the core problem. Big banks are guilty by association. Government needs the banks, to funnel their handouts.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:33 | 5824472 venturen
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Sorry you have it backwards. The richest have bought your government. When Wall Street is handed $4 Trillion to ramp the market they control....you know that all pretence of capitalism is dead...you have raw cronyism! 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:19 | 5824890 Billy the Poet
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"The richest have bought your government."

 

That's why government is the core problem. Without a bribable elite class with guns, prisons and the supposed moral authority to hurt people for their own good the bankers wouldn't have anything to work with but meaningless pieces of paper.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:23 | 5824909 margaris
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Governments, banks, churches, all work the same.

Temples of power that want you to believe in them so you give up your freedom and money so that they can rule over you and protect you.

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:30 | 5824925 amadeus39
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Wealth power will, in most cases, trump political power unless a mad person is heading government. Of course physical power, strong enough, will trump wealth and political power.

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 23:04 | 5825270 Pseudonymous
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Of course physical power, strong enough, will trump wealth

I think the time is coming when this long-standing fact of life will be reversed once and for all.

It is now possible to own, transfer and execute contracts in financial assets that cannot be seized or taxed, if used properly. This includes currency (cryptocurrencies like bitcoin), shares, bonds, etc., all without the involvement of any middlemen, legislation or enforcement agencies or any centralized institutions. Without the ability to enforce taxation no entity can abuse physical power for very long. Even if it decided to fight all users of cryptocurrencies and cryptoassets, it is only a matter of time before enough wealth is amassed and allotted for the destruction of such abusive power. This need not create a new abusive power in the process.

I think all the prerequisites for this (at least in therms of technologies) are in place.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:10 | 5824391 KickIce
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Puppets and Puppet Masters - Problem solved

Wasn't it some POS Rothschild that said something akin to "I care not who makes the laws if I control the money supply?"

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:12 | 5824394 A Lunatic
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The problems have been identified, the solutions are known, the clock is ticking.......

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:12 | 5824399 no more banksters
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Definitely big banks.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:14 | 5824403 smacker
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Definitely two problems.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:23 | 5824434 hootowl
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Both sides are right.  ZOG is the FED.....The FED is ZOG.

 

Does anyone remember a Pentecostal Christian appointed as Chairman of the federal reserve board?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:15 | 5824408 Rix Dahlder
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I also wonder how high this building is and who is residing in the penthouse...

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:25 | 5824913 margaris
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It doesn't end.

Government/banks grow like a cancer.

The top stages are always under construction, nobody lives there.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:15 | 5824409 cherry picker
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Its the people.  Screaming at each other when the problems are right behind them.

They need to find a common denominator to work from.  Like in the World Wars, they put the best where it would do most good, regardless of party affilliation. 

When the people start demanding as one instead of trying to rip each other to shreds, government and banks will change a lot and President's attitudes will humble

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:19 | 5824430 Doubleguns
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Cherry picker, the first step is to get rid of the R and D parties. In any order. 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:34 | 5824478 Bay Area Guy
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Agreed. The problem is that people who titularly elect our so-called representatives have become fully vested in the left-right or D-R political wars. Neither side understands that they actually have common enemies and those enemies, to use a George Carlin bit, are "In a club and you ain't a member". Until and unless the people as a whole (and not just a few people on what's viewed as a right-wing fringe website) understand that they're being played by a group of the power elite that could give a shit about them, the country can't even begin to heal.

Someone above said the solutions are known. Yeah, they're known by a relatively small percentage of people. The vast majority of people in this country think that all of our problems will go away if the Republican Party is outlawed (if you're a D) or if the Democratic Party is outlawed (if you're an R).

I'll tell you, I sometimes think this country will end up being run by a dictator in the not too distant future because at some point, one of the parties will, in fact, be successful at outlawing the other and some very shrewd operator in the winning party will take the reins completely.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:17 | 5824682 Abitdodgie
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Bay area guy,

"I sometimes think this country will end up being run by a dictator"

You might want to look out of the window !

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:39 | 5824770 Bay Area Guy
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Actually, I meant a bona fide, no-holes-barred, yeah I'm a fucking dictator, so get used to it, dictator.  Obama's not there.....yet.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 13:04 | 5827403 Doubleguns
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He's a socialist. Dictators come after that when the pendulum swings harder to one side or the other.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:34 | 5824482 venturen
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yes because anarchist have such a good record. 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:53 | 5824577 MeelionDollerBogus
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Least bad so far.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:57 | 5824592 logicalman
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Please explain.

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:35 | 5824483 Pareto
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......then get rid of the fucking FED!

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:17 | 5824416 atthelake
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Drudge has an article that says more Muslims are coming to America than Mexicans and Latin Americans. Assuming that's true, banksters may have serious problems with Sharia Law. Sharia cuts off the hands of thieves. A Muslim, I know, told me, "We have no theft". Bunch of banksters with no hands  coming to a town near you.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:36 | 5824477 Marco
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The Islamic banking scam is widespread, Saudi Arabia exists ... I think your friend is suffering from the no true Scottsman fallacy.

Also of course stealing from the kafir is never really a problem to begin with.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:52 | 5824573 Clarabell
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"...stealing from the kafir is never really a problem to begin with."

The same way it's not a problem to steal from the goyim.

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:47 | 5824542 Monetas
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They cut off the hands of common crimminals .... especially those who have no clout .... or worse .... those who have offended .... the more powerful .... the distribution of this harsh punishment .... is not a model .... for equality under the law !

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:19 | 5824432 Watchful_iii
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Spot on, they feed off of one another and nothing will change so long as they remain

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:00 | 5824603 logicalman
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Lichen -

is a composite organism that emerges from algae living among filaments of a fungus in a mutually beneficial (symbiotic) relationship. The whole combined life form has properties that are very different from properties of its component organisms.

Same with government and banksters.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:22 | 5824438 lordbyroniv
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If Occupy REALLY thinks banks are the problem....than SHAME on them,...for aligning themselves with Elizabeth Warren,..a bankster apologist.

 

I see Tea Party as Serious about going after BOTH !!!!

 

Occupy is like SYRIZA,...

 

Marxist drivel that is beholden to the Power wielders.

 

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:46 | 5824535 Clarabell
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After it's all said and done, the real value that Occupy Wall Street has given to the narrative is the acknowledgment that there is class warfare going on between the 1%(.01% if you prefer) and the 99% of the population. They have brought all of us the realization that a handful of oligarchs own and control this country and are running it for their own benefit. The big banks, the big corporations and ultimately the government are all own and controlled by these scumbags. They are squashing the middle class in the same you might squash a bug. They are turning the country into a police state to protect themselves.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:27 | 5824736 shovelhead
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You got all that from a group of people who couldn't form a coherent thought beyond a slogan length sentence?

You might have got all that here, but you certainly didn't get it from the front lines of the Free Shit Army.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:33 | 5824951 logicalman
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I guess you never took the time to be there.

I didn't meet a single member of the FSA.

I did meet a lot of people with passion and ideas.

I met some idiots too, but not many.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 00:24 | 5825534 Pseudonymous
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For those of us who were never there, would you share with us how common were the ideas and principles of no government restrictions for contracts, opposition to taxation and all other forms of aggression?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 23:30 | 5825372 samsara
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I think we are way past having a hope of a group of people who have a "Coherent Thought" to solve our problems.

I think what you/we will see a lot of,  "Incoherent Thoughts"   with all it's stupid results.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:02 | 5824536 cowdiddly
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Well, no matter if you agree with his philosopy or not,  if you had ever taken the time to even read some of the works of Marx. He predicted that the inherent flaw and evil  in capitalism is eventually all the money would be concentrated in the top percent, in this case the .01%. The very thing you are bitching about.

Drivel indeed, that is why he is called a Giant among men. I think this is on his tombstone. He was a worthless bum that would rather let his children starve than do menial work,(unwilling to walk his own talk) which is why I dont think much of him personally, not what he wrote, although I do not agree with everything he said..

There is no Utopia.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 08:51 | 5826344 gcjohns1971
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Aye,

What Capitalism hath wrought...

... through government regulation, restrictions, licensing, and selective taxation...

 

Something about this statement tickles my sense that something is wrong...

 

Which systems advocate control of the means of production through regulation, restrictions, licensing and taxation, again??

Which systems advocate the lack of such top-down controls?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:30 | 5824462 gwar5
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That is how I saw/see it. Big problem with America is the same problem for Europe. Merger of private corporations and government is Fascism.

 

 

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:34 | 5824954 logicalman
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Big problem for humanity is government.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:50 | 5824559 MeelionDollerBogus
Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:58 | 5824595 blindman
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the owners of the banks have a difficult
path to legally and openly become the
owners of sovereignty and recognized
government, fitting that square peg
into the round hole. even for sharp
and angled men, impossible.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:01 | 5824611 kchrisc
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Zion's, and their government farm managers' most effective tool for plunder, keeping us divided.

Always about money, power (future money), and division.

Don't let them take it. Don't let them have it.  And don't believe it.

The banksters need to repay us.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:13 | 5824661 I Write Code
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Stop!  They're both right!

Problem is, where is "da establishment"?  Remocrats and Depublicans.  Upstairs, with their pants around their ankles.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:12 | 5824664 blindman
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John Prine - The Great Compromise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2okOuZ8T_o
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(2014) 9/11 EXPOSED - WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON 9/11 - NO PLANES!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZomMV4BVVU

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:29 | 5824742 Joe_in_Indiana
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Both groups are pointing at buildings,

BUT the problem is the people who are running the shows in those buildings!

Focus People!!!

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:32 | 5824756 wisefool
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National Institute of Science and Technology? too soon?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:34 | 5824763 FPearl602
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Oh my gawd! A cartoon that was designed by Ayn Rand! Where is Dagny Taggart? Hank Rearden?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:35 | 5824961 logicalman
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Pull it!

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:01 | 5825059 buzzy_the_pirate_dog
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WTC7

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:46 | 5824993 Pseudonymous
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You have to have one of them completely demolished and then the whole problem is solved. Note that if you leave even a single column standing, the building will still stand and function. So either demolish one whole first floor or leave one column each for both first floors and let it tip over by its own imbalance, or by the force of a mere breeze.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:03 | 5825066 Bruce
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“The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.' ”- Ronald Reagan - 40th president of US (1911 - 2004)  

“If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand” – Milton Friedman, Nobel Laureate Economist

"The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the people versus the banks." – Lord Acton

“Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.” - Lord Acton

“When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain.” - Napoleon Bonaparte

“I have never yet had anyone who could, through the use of logic and reason, justify the Federal Government borrowing the use of its own money... I believe the time will come when people will demand that this be changed. I believe the time will come in this country when they will actually blame you and me and everyone else connected with the Congress for sitting idly by and permitting such an idiotic system to continue.” - Congressman Wright Patman

“The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen....At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties.” - New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, 1922

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 23:06 | 5825282 Ohne Deckung
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The idendity of the problem is given by the running joke, composing history and histories, consisting in the idea, that if all are under my thumb finally freedom will be the result.

If there were just left governments and banks that matters, we would see the joke operating here in sorting out the matter of concern.

The unifying element is the psychopath's game that spins on the logic of the fox in the hen house. If all the poultry is dead I'm relieved from all the chaos and cries.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 00:33 | 5825559 TeethVillage88s
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Let's add some news from today:

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- 17,000 federal employees made more than $200,000 last year... http://www.nationaljournal.com/budget/17-000-federal-employees-earned-mo...

- CLIAM: Military decimated under Obama, only 'marginally able' to defend nation... http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/24/us-military-decimated-un...

After 12 Years of Heavy Fiscal Spending not just on Defense, but across the board, then Heavy Monetary Policies after 2008 Global Financial Crisis, including heavy Lending from FED, QE Infinity from FED, and LIRP/ZIRP for FED

Oh yeah, the poor congress and poor banks and poor Federal Government Employees. S/

Yeah, why don't we spend more on Welfare without looking at the causes or without trying to solve the problems. S/

- Homeownership Hits 20-Year Low...
- Jeb: Immigrant workers would 'lift our spirits dramatically'...

2014 Federal Outlays for SNAP, Child Nutrition, & WIC = $102 Billion
2013 Federal Outlays for SNAP, Child Nutrition, & WIC = $109 Billion
2008 Federal Outlays for SNAP, Child Nutrition, & WIC = $60 Billion
2004 Federal Outlays for SNAP, Child Nutrition, & WIC = $45 Billion
2000 Federal Outlays for SNAP, Child Nutrition, & WIC = $32 Billion
1998 Federal Outlays for SNAP, Child Nutrition, & WIC = $33 Billion

Department of Health and Human Services (MEDICAID):
2014 Outlays Federal Grants to States for Medicaid = $301 Billion
2013 Outlays Federal Grants to States for Medicaid = $256 Billion
2008 Outlays Federal Grants to States for Medicaid = $201 Billion
2004 Outlays Federal Grants to States for Medicaid = $176 Billion
2000 Outlays Federal Grants to States for Medicaid = $118 Billion
1998 Outlays Federal Grants to States for Medicaid = $101 Billion

And wow, the Military Claims we are Unprepared and Unprotected... although they get great education benefits, great retirements, and they have jobs waiting for them in Defense MIC Industry when they get off the Dole.

Total—Department of Veterans Affairs Outlays 2014 = $154.05 Billion
Total—Department of Veterans Affairs Outlays 2013 = $143.6 Billion
Total—Department of Veterans Affairs Outlays 2000 = $50.1 Billion
Total—Department of Veterans Affairs Outlays 1998 = $45.6 Billion
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Total—International Assistance Program Outlays 2014 = $49.37 Billion
Total—International Assistance Program Outlays 2013 = $48 Billion
Total—International Assistance Program Outlays 2000 = $25.7 Billion
Total—International Assistance Program Outlays 1998 = $26 Billion
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Total--Department of Homeland Security Outlays 2014 = $53,812 Billion
Total--Department of Homeland Security Outlays 2013 = $66.5 Billion
Total--Department of Homeland Security Outlays 2000 (FEMA) = $3.9 Billion
Total--Department of Homeland Security Outlays 1998 (FEMA) = $2.9 Billion
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Total—Department of Defense—Military Outlays 2014 = 580.13 Billion
Total—Department of Defense—Military Outlays 2013 = $609.4 Billion (Down from $650 B)
Total—Department of Defense—Military Outlays 2000 = $283 Billion
Total—Department of Defense—Military Outlays 1998 = $257.9 Billion
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Total--Military Personnel Outlays under DOD 2014 = $148.92 Billion (Doubled, Read that Doubled)
Total--Military Personnel Outlays under DOD 2013 = $150.8 Billion
Total--Military Personnel Outlays under DOD 2000 = $75.9 Billion
Total--Military Personnel Outlays under DOD 1998 = $68.9 Billion

Total--Operation and Maintenance under DOD 2014 = $244.86 Billion (More than Doubled)
Total--Operation and Maintenance under DOD 2013 = $259.7 Billion (not enough!)
Total--Operation and Maintenance under DOD 2000 = $105.9 Billion (Before the wars)
Total--Operation and Maintenance under DOD 1998 = $92.8 Billion

Total—Procurement under DOD 2014 = $106,73 Billion (Doubled)
Total—Procurement under DOD 2013 = $114.9 Billion
Total—Procurement under DOD 2000 = $51.6 Billion
Total—Procurement under DOD 1998 = $48.2 Billion

Americans will believe anything said on TV by and Authority Figure. S/

Question Authority. Jeb & Jeh want to Double Welfare Payments within the Next 10 Years.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 02:10 | 5825859 zipit
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Divided.  Just the way "they" want it.  Because: United we stand, divided we fall.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 04:24 | 5826045 JoJoJo
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Big Gov has the guns to control Big Banks but not the integrity. Knock down dishonest,ignorant,self interested politicians and AUDIT THE FED would be a good start.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 05:50 | 5826125 Fred123
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Ummm...the Tea Party sees big government and the big banks as the main cause of Americas distress. This cartoon is not accurate.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 05:55 | 5826131 Bumbu Sauce
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And yet the occutards get their funding handed out from that building they are squatting, raping, and shitting in front of.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 06:15 | 5826142 orangegeek
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occupy is financed by george soros through his network of tides foundation, etc

 

tea party is financed by conservative interests

 

no mention of the other beast - UNIONS!!!!!!!!!!!

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 08:46 | 5826326 Pumpkin
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The government in the US of A can be summed up by this.  In 1953 'our' government came up with the 501c(3) exemption.  Though churches were already completely exempt from taxation, they encouraged all the churches to register for this exemption.  They did this because 501c(3) exemptions have rules.  The important one being, no political free speech.  Our government took the rules and morality of the church OUT of politics.

Banks can be summed up like this.  Many ancient (and some not so ancient) King made usury (the loaning of money at interest) a crime, punishable by death.  This was not because the Kings were just good people, they did this because if they didn't, and money was loaned at interest, in about 150 years, two or three people ended up with all the gold in the kingdom and the economy grinded to a stop.  Though we don't have gold as money today (another scheme of the bankers), the same thing would happen with out fiat money.  The only way to stop this from happening even with fiat money, is to continually have a new supply of fiat money enter into the system. This is what we call inflation.

And if you were Satan, cast out of heaven onto the earth, and you still wanted to rule over man as you wanted to in heaven, where would you place yourself?

 

 

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