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Obama Vetoes Keystone Pipeline Bill
Remember when shortly after the avalanche victory of the GOP in both the House and the Senate the pundits said that with the lame duck president in his final stretch, now is the time when long-overdue legislation would finally get passed? They were wrong.
- OBAMA NOTIFIES U.S. SENATE OF VETO OF KEYSTONE PIPELINE APPROVAL BILL
- OBAMA VETOES REPUBLICAN ATTEMPT TO FORCE KEYSTONE APPROVAL
The full Obama letter:
The Republican reaction:
- U.S. SENATE MAJORITY LEADER MITCH MCCONNELL SAYS CHAMBER WILL CONSIDER OVERRIDE OF KEYSTONE PIPELINE VETO NO LATER THAN MARCH 3.
- BOEHNER SAYS OBAMA KEYSTONE VETO IS `NATIONAL EMBARASSMENT'
As Bloomberg adds, Obama’s action sets up new round of votes in Congress that will likely fail as supporters don’t have enough backing to override veto. As a reminder, the Senate vote was 62-36, while House vote was 270-152; with a two-thirds majority required to override veto.
Of course, when the Fed gives a greenlight to keep pumping up the "wealth effect" and make the rich - the same people who contro Congress anyway - richer, who actually needs any laws getting passed? Indeed, in the immortal words of Chuck Schumer, when the Mr. Chairmanwoman is "getting to work", Congress is merely ornamental.
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it's a sad day when the usa can't even manage to build a pipeline
Can't upset Uncle Warren Buffett who endorsed Obamney Soroto & who wants oil shipped by rail!
Maybe he just likes watching train tanker cars explode.
US loss will be China's gain just like Bulgaria's loss is Turkey's gain.
...Another win for Saudi Arabia and Qatar
and Isn't Obama the one bitching how Bills/Legislation never get passed in Congress.
Obama and the idiocracy can now celebrate their big win over global warming.
Speaking of which...
it's as fucking cold here in the northeast as obama's tit
More flaming tanker cars....woot woot.... makes great copy!
I find it somewhat inexplicable that he remains with so many supporters
"By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise."
-Adolf Hitler
Many Canadians are vehemently opposed to Keystone, which is perceived as another sellout to American fascist interests. Viewed objectively, it can be viewed as good news for Canada, as alternative pipeline routes are now considerably more likely to receive approval, especially the Northern Gateway to Prince Rupert, British Columbia, which when constructed will bring oilsands production to the BC coast for tanker export to Asia-Pacific and other markets. The sooner the better, as far as I'm concerned. Canada needs that revenue to pay for all its social(ist) programs, and the longer the government drags it out, the more potential customers will lock up deals with competitors. Get moving!
More bankster/Wall Street cock has been sucked by Obama in the Oval Office than in the Champagne Room at Rick's Cabaret.
I should have said Kitimat, not Prince Rupert, although Prince Rupert would be better because the town is located closer to open ocean, whereas tanker traffic to Kitimat will mean negotiation of a complex fjord (waterway). The important thing is that all the jobs and profits stay in Canada and not some foreign nation. <g>
http://www.gatewayfacts.ca/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enbridge_Northern_Gateway_Pipelines
Shipping it east by pipeline also makes a great deal of sense... especially since Canada itself is dependant upon oil from the middle east which may or may not be flowing if Bibi gets his war.
Nothing but bloody fools and idiots everywhere these days...
Edit: Meh.
With this crowd in charge “sustained” becomes myopic, ignorant, shameless, unrelenting, and pathological.
Skilled.. not so much.
But still, Hitler would be proud.
"I find it somewhat inexplicable that he remains with so many supporters "
can't speak about his support in the US. among the allies, partners, clients and protectorates of the US... we aren't happy about him
but then, we often think about his greatest, Peace-Nobel Prize winning reason why we somehow "don't hate" him:
he is not George W. Bush and he is not Dick Cheney
but hey, I'm wasting words here, I could as well ask why Americans put so much power in the hands of one man alone, or why you spend so much time interpreting your constitution instead of clarifying it or adapting it with constitutional amendments
the US Presidency was always of an imperial nature. then the international scene of the young USA was of powerful Kings, Sultans and Emperors
the US Congress was always the weaker House, and the Senate the key political body... because US Senators were representatives of the State legislatures (i.e. a balanced federation)
not long ago, in ZH was possible to read Americans commenting about an abrogation of the 17th Amendment. where are they now? left the field for the gallery?
Environmental risks? Yeah, just like the Alaskan Pipeline 30+ years ago, which has been quiety transporting oil safely, cheaply and with so few incidents nobody even thinks about it any more. Those kinds of risks. The risk that something might actually go right in the this country from time to time. But not while this asshole is in office.
Not to worry, while Senate Republitards blow smoke up the sheeples asses over the Keystone pipline, they fold like a cheap suit over blocking amnesty.
Once we import enough illiterate socialist 3rd worlders we can all sit back and bask in the glow of the Idiocracy.
Why do you act like the script is real? To fold implies that they were standing for something in the first place.
You sir, have fallen victim to a vast con-game.
Oh come on.
Are you really taking anything I say literally?
Obviously I need to start adding a sarc tag when comments such as yours show up in reference to anything I might add to the miasma.
Can't anyone around here show off their sardonic wit without being insulted by the alleged ZH intelligentsia.
Obama should be drafted
I'm just a bill
Yes, I'm only a bill
And if they vote for me on Capitol Hill
Well, then I'm off to the White House
Where I'll get killed by the HNIC
+1000
He never register for the draft, FFS (fact)
He used his draft card to cut a few lines of toot, then used it to roll a big choom fattie.
Tha' draft is rayciss!
Obama. Buffets best boy.
Barry doesn't need an excuse to piss in the soup.
It's what he does and who he is.
The upside: if the clowns in DC are fighting each other, they'll at least take a short break from wrecking our existence for a bit. Likely a very short break, but we could use the respite......
:)
What kinda of bullshit is it? What the hell is wrong with a pipeline? They have underground gas pipelines all over the country, and pumping water all over from the greatlakes to the southwest.
And who are the environmentalists? More bullshit to bullshit us with. Can't wait for Jeb so he can build the ultimate bullshit bush pipeline from nowhere to somewhere else, no one needs.
my neighbor's mother makes $86 /hr on the computer . She has been laid off for 10 months but last month her pay was $21128 just working on the computer for a few hours. go to the website... www.globe-report.com
So much butt kissing from Harper, from Ukraine to ISIS, and still got rejected. He looks now like a perfect fool... just in time for his elections.
And the $C rises almost 2%.
"Hahahaha. Sorry Kiev, you lose!"
Taking one for Team ZH again I see.
Tis an interesting concept though...ZH'ers suddenly gellin.
one big WTF-send that up your pipe line.
Why doesn't Barry just declare war on Canada. He's pissed off every other friend and ally.
To busy turning the Capitol building into the Death Star
Buffet the satan spawn wins today.
Yep
Crony capitalism at it's finest.
this was expected.
checks and balances, eh?
Now, Warren Buffet has to suck Obozzo's Johnson while his wife, Michael, watches...!
I bet ya Barry is still the one sucking.
Jimmy Buffet's got his train set complete then.
William, we need an image of the Kermit puppet but w/ O's face on it, thanks.
who gives a fuck.
eminent domain was used in texas to confiscate land for the portions of it down here.
fuck the state
Probably the only rational poster on here that gets it.
The Keystone pipeline is a gross violation of property rights. Keep in mind that this bill would give the power of eminent domain to a multinational company. So not only is this a property rights violation, it is also a sovereignty violation on top of that.
I'm kind of shocked that a libertarian site wants to see the government exert force on citizens into surrendering their property over to a multinational corporation. If you want to build a pipeline, that's fine, but do it without crony capitalism and without the force of the state.
There's no sovereignty violation.
Don't ya know?
We all live in the United Soviet States of the North American Union.
There are no states or countries, just Federal districts ruled by D.C.
(Note: I meant Feudal districts not Federal districts, but you get the Tokyo Drift.)
Here's the sarc tag for all those that think I'm being serious.
(to Surging) Oh, you want to help with the discussion, Mr. Thinker? That may be true, but let's get with the fucking program. That's NOT why Obama vetoed it.
You're right, we all know that Obama vetoed it because "MUH ENVIRONMENT!" and "MUH BUFFET RAILROADS!". I'm just pointing out that one can oppose the Keystone pipeline for a non-environmental reason, one that the media constantly ignores about because they don't want Americans to think about the concept of property rights.
Kelo vs The City of New London was the death rattle of (the remaining) property rights in the US.
Bingo. So his point is moot and it doesn't make a difference why Obama vetoed the bill.
Property rights are already history in this country.
wheeew, that was close one mr pres, you almost created jobs
remember, this is the asshole that said oil prices must necessarily rise in order to promote his alternative energy agenda.
thus far he has destroyed the coal industry and is doing his damnedest to destroy oil. he's already fighting too much foreign pumping and domestic fracking. Fucking asshole will destroy americans if he can. he truly is satan.
Not "he" but the New World Order.
And then said that he was the reason for falling oil prices.
Do your nuts ever seem to start hurting for no reason when he's being around?
Absolutely right, and the they are backdooring us all also by subsidising 10's of thousands of dollars to electric car mfg. / solar panel mfg. / battery mfg. as well - your tax dollars and future debt, hard at work for the elitists of the world.
Did I say 10's of thousands? - well, per car that is. Overall it's billions of subsidies... sheesh.
Most portions of it are already built. Jobs are done and gone.
Oil, pipelines, labor, jobs, real economy..........hmmm...NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Welfare, global swarming, financial gimmicks, fake economy............Hell yessssssssssssss.
It's almost like they're doing the exact opposite of what they are supposed to be doing or something.
The government is supposed to create jobs?
No, but their job is to certainly NOT put up barriers to those who do!
in a crony capitalist system, absolutly
these aren't government created jobs, retard.
these are private jobs that the government stopped.
i've read your comments before. this one is no different. your brain is mush.
All done by design.
Good.
does smell like a steaming porkfest. Blind Squirrel Barry finally finds a nut.
Buffet's rail will be the way.
Names and numbers on the vote..............check.
Oh oh, CIA-Obama, and manchurian puppet, is going to rile up some rural, self-righteous evangelical Christian, and neo-con supporting sheeple.
They will say the answer is to install a dictator that will save the US, the flag, and the rest of us from "damnation," the Muslims, fags, and "illegals." Just don't touch the porn, that they don't view, or Honey Boo Boo, and American Sniper sequels.
"ReadyReserve Ready."
The banksters need to repay us.
Faith guides, religion forces.
Why not US declare default and stop this charade?
Folks should just get together, build the fucking pipeline and tell Obarry and the feds to go suk it.
I wouldn't do that: Barry will just pick up his Xbox controller and drone strike everybody working on it, then claim HE is the victim of racial discrimination.
Barry Soetoro is a genius. I love him. Hey dear Americans, you have got (s)elected the biggest moron in the universe to be your chief. Do you really want to front-run Cuba or Zimbabwe?
I belive, that he would beat Maduro and Hugo Chavez in championship of destroying the economy.
Only pipe laying Barry likes is from Reggie. Buffett needs the rail business and Warren gets what Warren wants
The oil is being shipped by railroad to the gulf of mexico to put on a ship and sell it to other countries...If it were for the U.S. they could use trucks. Here in the U.S. all we will see is the trains de-railing and blowing up cities...The corporations get rich, and the U.S. citizens get pollution and we will never be a country who is self sufficent in regards to energy...Obama's veto has something to do other than stopping the pipeline, the pipe line will go through, and soon enough we will find out the strategy of the banker controlled obama regime.
"The exact figures are contested, but TransCanada is promising the pipeline will create 15,000 construction and manufacturing jobs, generate $5.2 billion in property taxes from Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas and provide $20 billion in economic contributions.
The American Petroleum Institute, the largest U.S. trade group for oil and gas producers, said the pipeline will create 500,000 U.S. jobs by 2035, but opponents argue those are not permanent jobs. "
Nope....there are far too many positives in that to be trusted. let's go back to massaging the negatives.
Now do I really need to use the s/
The idea of pipelines is to use less personnel than other means of transportation. Most if not all of API's estimated jobs will probably go *puff* in the air same as the crap that flows inside of those pipes.
Well thats like saying lets not go ahead with a 100 employee company because they said it should employ 1000!
IT"S STILL 100 JOBS!
Expecting Republicans to keep their promises and actually do something is like expecting Liberals to reign in spending.
You are moron if you believe any of them,
The Cock Bros. are probably foaming at the mouth with this. Well, now they can concentrate on paying their lackeys to sow some controversy right before the Paris talks.
It's cheaper for China to buy directly from Canada.
US not going to see cheaper gas either way.
Koch's are pissed! After bankrolling plenty of GOP candidates to push for a private pipeline and they end up getting nothing? What a waste of "free speech dollars" that the Supreme Court says are protected. What good is being a billionaire if you can't sway elections to your favor? There's no fun if you can't prop up stealth candidates, use "Citzen's United" and the Cayman Islands Banks as a campaign $ tool.
"One man, one vote" ain't cutting it anymore. It should be revised to where every $ you own is a "vote." 40 billion dollars = 40 billion votes. 1,200 dollars = 1,200 votes.
It's obvious the Koch's have more "skin in the game" than to be thwarted by some executive power thingy. Comodification ought to find it's simplest form ever, "One dollar, one vote"
Am sure the likes of the very wealthy would like to circumvent that nasty,pesky thing called the average American voter.
Thanks for mentioning Paris in your comments AchtungAffen : ) I've been seemingly alone here in pointing to it's true significance.
As far as I'm concerned, BAU ended in the Autumn of 2012. It ended before the re-election of Obama. It ended before Super-storm Sandy. It ended when the Arctic sea ice extent crashed. Decision makers at every level had a plan up until then. Then Sandy, just to bring the fact home.
I curse Obama and the UN for what happened in Copenhagen but today's veto is an SOS distress call to Paris. Perfect!
This shit-show is coming to an end in Paris because it must. This is not a test.
All Roads lead to Paris.
Remember when shortly after the avalanche victory of the GOP in both the House and the Senate the pundits said that with the lame duck president in his final stretch, now is the time when long-overdue legislation would finally get passed?
No sorry, I don't remember that. Most pundits I remember were saying that Obama would veto anything he didn't like and issue lots of executive orders.
Who's unloading the ships along the West coast?
Doesn't the President know not to start sentences with But and And? Dummy.
Killery Clinton won't like this why with all those donations her racket foundation got
"Through this bill, the United States Congress attempts to circumvent longstanding and proven processes for determining whether or not building and operating a cross-border pipeline serves the national interest."
What kind of fucking mumble jumble lawyerese jive ass shit talk is this? "...proven processes.."? What the fuck does that mean? We have to have a "proven process" for fucking laying pipe? Gawd, 696 more days of putting up with this fucking retard coon.
Pipelines can be done responsibly but what's gone on during North Dakota's pipeline frenzy has been a disaster. After constant pipeline rupters there was an article in a local paper saying they were making sweeping and unprecedented changes to how pipelines were regulated in ND. What is their grand solution????
Requiring flow meters. No shit.
If you want massive profits NOW NOW NOW!! Then flow meters cut into profit. Overpressuring pipelines increases profit. Think short term, like every 90 days.
Yeah if you want a good laugh: http://www.inforum.com/news/legislature/3685777-bills-add-regulations-research-pipelines-north-dakota
And the wild eyed snatch that wrote this story is related to the Governor. The same Governor who took a 700 million dollar fund set aside for the 9,000 guys who have had their faces or arms blown off while working in the Bakken (for prosthetics and such) and denied their claims and gave the money back to the corporations. http://www.midwestenergynews.com/2015/01/09/documentary-highlights-dangers-for-bakken-oil-field-workers/
What is up with Barry's grammar? Is he high?
The commas in the first and second sentences are simply wrong. In the second paragraph he starts two sentences with the conjuctions "but" and "and". Then, when he finally has the need of a comma or two, he makes up some new form "--".
This level of control over the fundamentals of his language sets a remarkable example.
Is this guy too good for the english language? Is he trying to pick a fight with it?
uh,
Obama only vetoed the process, not the pipeline.
It's just another, in a long series, of deceptive moves by Obama.
The pipeline will be approved through the normal administrative process.
Obama knows that.
But this way he can appear to be concerned with the environment,
something which he has repeatedly shown he is not.
He can also foster the illusion that the two parties are at loggerheads,
which they are not.
What about my shovel ready job?
Just shoring up that loyal union democrat vote. Morons. Obama doesn't even know what a pipeline is.