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The War On Success: Why America Is Doomed

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This is the war on success that our government is waging. They are almost trying to make the economy worse by putting companies out of business. To Quote Jim Clifton of Gallup:

Our leadership keeps thinking that the answer to economic growth and ultimately job creation is more innovation, and we continue to invest billions in it. But an innovation is worthless until an entrepreneur creates a business model for it and turns that innovative idea in something customers will buy. Because we have misdiagnosed the cause and effect of economic growth, we have misdiagnosed the cause and effect of job creation.

 

For the first time in 35 years, American business deaths now outnumber business births.

 

Let's get one thing clear: This economy is never truly coming back unless we reverse the birth and death trends of American businesses. It is catastrophic to be dead wrong on the biggest issue of the last 50 years -- the issue of where jobs come from...when small and medium-sized businesses are dying faster than they're being born, so is free enterprise.

 

And when free enterprise dies, America dies with it.

Mike Maloney explains...

 

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Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:21 | 5824894 LetThemEatRand
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Don't have time to watch this tonight, so I'll pick up a copy at Walmart.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:25 | 5824912 Publicus
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Union will save America.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:29 | 5824923 LetThemEatRand
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Au contraire, mon fraire.  Globalist companies will save America.  Exhibit 1 -- the stock market and rapidly rising GDP. 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:32 | 5824945 BrosephStiglitz
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But Hillary already told me that the public sector creates jobs.  Who are we to disagree? ;) 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:47 | 5825000 Thirst Mutilator
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Doom for this guy is because he he won't have any success selling subscriptions on account of being a douche.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:57 | 5825030 BrosephStiglitz
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Which guy is that? Mike Maloney?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:10 | 5825092 knukles
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Christopher Walken

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:11 | 5825095 Thirst Mutilator
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Any person that tells you what you should already know & wants to charge you money for it.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:17 | 5825114 BrosephStiglitz
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Maloney is worth listening to, in my opinion. He has a sales pitch, of course, but he falls on facts to sell his goods rather than bullshit anecdotes.  He's one of the few PM vendors I will bother listening to.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 23:24 | 5825341 Thirst Mutilator
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I'll admit that I liked him too at the beginning. Then it just started sounding old & canned to me [not INCORRECT ~ just same old same old]. Sorry ~ that's just how it is anymore.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 23:34 | 5825390 Hulk
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He needs more cowbell !!!

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 23:52 | 5825450 Greenskeeper_Carl
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i like maloney. He may be trying to sell me something(even if it is something I was already going to buy anyway) but who isn't, nowadays. ZH gets paid for each click, and uses plenty of 'click-baity' titles to get people here. And, since this place lights up on ghostry like no other site ive been to(seriously, when i disable blocking on ghostery, is lights up with something like 50 hits, literally more than any other site Ive ever seen) they sure are getting paid by a lot of people for all those tracking cookies. their 'hidden secrets of money' series is great, I wish everyone would watch at least part IV of the series

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 01:39 | 5825805 Thirst Mutilator
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@Greenskeeper

 

See, that's what I'm saying...

 

I guess I got slobberknockered a little [on my first comment]... I really like Maloney [ALOT], after the first video I saw... But here's the thing:

 

- after the first video, it was PROMISED that it was just a 'TEASE' to a series... That series later became several parts [which, on the face, wasn't bad]... But then each subsequent series became a combination of predictable & less interesting...

 

It was kind of like watching "Friday the 13th part 'x' to the 3rd power...

 

FFS???? What has changed in the last 8 years that couldn't have been predicted 8 years ago?... Which means to say... Why break it up into pieces??? The only answer is that you're trying to PROFITEER as a doomsday monger...

 

I've got better things to do with my time... I hope our HERO here made a couple of bucks along the way with the late arrivals.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 02:04 | 5825853 A Nanny Moose
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I got a feeevah!!!!

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:50 | 5825003 Harbanger
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The problem here is the CEO's get bonuses and we get shit.  We're my bonus bitch?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:52 | 5825005 Publicus
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You can print your own bonus after World War 3 due to labor shortage after losing 99% of the world population from widespread biological weapon usage.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:00 | 5825047 Harbanger
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My bonus will be surviving this centrally planned liberal shithole collapse while watching them squirm for answers.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 23:30 | 5825371 MonetaryApostate
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Don't think they'll be squirming until the entire world is on it's knees, then they will realize the folly of robbing the poor & middle class with the lethargic greed that they cannot seem to control.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:55 | 5825016 LetThemEatRand
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Nothing wrong with bonuses.  However, today's CEO's get bonuses for offshoring via free trade agreements, stock price increases resulting from free Fed money used for stock buy backs, direct Fed purchases of the S&P, and regulations that punish small business.  Since you've selected the bonus prize, you have to pick a celebrity to match your answer.  May I suggest Alan Greenspan.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 02:16 | 5825866 A Nanny Moose
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This is an issue arising from a lack of competition, which is a distinctly statist endeavor.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 09:31 | 5826465 jack_gott
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If all the $ goes to CEOs, then start your own comp and be a CEO, or accept your beta-hood. Either way STFU

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:31 | 5825166 VAD
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Is "fraire" French for "bruh"?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:48 | 5825001 nmewn
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lol...I have a great union story.

It involves me being a young man and out of work and walking into the hall (past the presidents red corvette in the parking lot, that I helped pay for) and finding him with his ostrich skin cowboy boots (that I helped pay for) propped up on the desk (that I helped pay for) laughing his ass off on the phone (that I helped pay for) with someone after I walked past his secretary (that I helped pay for) and announcing, I needed work.

He said, "Well, ya know times are hard right now..." I said no shit, I can see that, just what the fuck have I been paying dues for?

He started mumbling something about "negotiations" and upcoming contracts, thats when I turned and walked out slamming the door behind me knocking a picture off the wall in the secretarys office (that I helped pay for) startling her.

As I walked by his red corvette I started from the passengers side front quarter panel and gouged it all the way to the rear tail light.

Someone else could pay for that I figgered and I was never associated with another union in my life.

Yes, I know yours was sarcasm ;-)

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:07 | 5825078 LetThemEatRand
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Corruption is indeed a difficult problem.   Corzine does not belong to a union, and he can afford a few thousand of your union guy's corvettes.  Blankfein can afford a few hundred thousand.  The Rothschilds laugh at our inability to organize against them, while we argue about localized corruption that could be easily dealt with by an informed population.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:36 | 5825179 nmewn
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Well we are trying to do something about the Rothschilds, the Blankfeins and the Corzines of the world but some people keep trying to "spread the wealth around" and screaming about, it'll be the apocalypse, the end of the world as we know it and infrastructure won't be built and children will starve in the streets!...so it kinda defeats the whole vibe.

We figured we'd wait till ya'll get done panting & freaking out ;-)

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:39 | 5825191 LetThemEatRand
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In the meantime, who has more wealth?  Are you a guy who likes to start small and then work up to bigger problems?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:49 | 5825227 nmewn
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According to mental midgets, more debt is more wealth.

So I guess I'm waaay down there workin my way up.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 02:19 | 5825884 A Nanny Moose
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What exactly is your disareement with Corzine, Rothy's, and Blankfiend? Are these simply strawmen? If they have so much power, how could unions possibly organize against said power?

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 02:20 | 5825886 one_hundred
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my neighbor's mother makes $86 /hr on the computer . She has been laid off for 10 months but last month her pay was $21128 just working on the computer for a few hours. go to the website... www.globe-report.com

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 08:56 | 5826360 TheWord
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Wait, she got $21K in 10 months getting laid??  She must be one shit-hot MILF.  What's her number, dude?  I want a piece of that ass!

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 09:33 | 5826476 jack_gott
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dude...I know your neighbor's mother...she ain't making that $86 on the computer (though it does involve a hard drive)

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 10:56 | 5826806 funthea
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^

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:21 | 5824896 surf0766
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Communist fucks

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:29 | 5824931 Chupacabra-322
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Communism? Really? Fascism is where we're at.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:36 | 5824946 FireBrander
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Wrongo Morons...Crony Capitalism is where we're at..dream on with your "Socialism/Communism" has fuked us...they didn't...Capitalism got us here shitheads..Now Socialism/Communism/Fascism will feed on the carcasses the Crony Capitalists leave behind as they retreat to their islands.

 

Got Island?

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:42 | 5824982 LetThemEatRand
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Serious question -- what's the difference between crony capitalism and fascism?  Isn't the former just on an earlier part of the time line that leads to the latter? 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:47 | 5824999 FireBrander
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"Isn't the former just on an earlier part of the time line that leads to the latter?"

Correct! It's a circle.

Capitalism > Crony Capitalism > Socialism > Communism > Fascism > Dictatorship > Capitalism > ...

Ben Franklin Knew it:

"I believe farther that this (The Government of the United States) is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in Despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic Government, being incapable of any other." Benjamin Franklin

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:40 | 5825195 nmewn
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He wasn't talking about capitalism, idjut.

He was talking about self-control, citizen responsibility. Ya know like, not forcing someone to buy something they don't want, like, oh, I dunno...OBAMACARE!

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:55 | 5825022 Harbanger
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In theory there is no difference between theory and practice.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:06 | 5825080 nmewn
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Theoretically ;-)

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:08 | 5825089 knukles
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Practically speaking, that is.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:11 | 5825094 LetThemEatRand
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You guys need some KleenexR?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 23:37 | 5825404 Hulk
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They need more cowbell...

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 02:01 | 5825846 Money Boo Boo
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...its moar cowbell

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 02:47 | 5825940 The central planners
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In practical theory youre right.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:04 | 5825072 Chris88
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They're the same thing.  Fascism is government direction and control of "private" enteprise which is the economic model of most western economies.  The difference between fascism and socialism is simply one of degrees, not principles.  They both shit on private property rights and free trade, enterprise, and association.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:17 | 5825107 LetThemEatRand
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TEPCO, a private corporation before the Japan Syndrome melt-down (modified for timeliness), would like to build its next plant in your town.  They will bring jobs and infrastructure.   Your neighbors think it's grand and they already sold their land for the new plant, and it will go next door to you.  No more property purchases necessary.  As an owner of private property, what are your rights?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:18 | 5825118 Chris88
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My rights now or my rights in a free society?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:19 | 5825120 LetThemEatRand
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Either.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:45 | 5825213 Chris88
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In today's society private property rights don't exist, especially in US, Japan, etc.  In a free society I'd urge you to read Bob murphy's "Chaos Theory" for an explanation on how private law and arbitration work.  I'm too jetlagged to reiterate this entire subject but will say that expecting the greatest expropriator or private proeprty (government) to defend private property is like putting child rapists in charge of a pre school.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 23:01 | 5825263 LetThemEatRand
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I know about arbitration.  The companies that push it stack the deck.   Think for one second about some low wage earner going to arbitration at a private panel against a large corporation or consotrium, and tell me if you really believe it would be fair.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 23:12 | 5825302 Chris88
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Life isn't fair and arbitration and a truly free society wouldn't be perfect (no system would, but it'd be the best).  But if you think the "public" legal system is fair roll me some of what you're smoking.  At least arbitration isn't funded with stolen money.  

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 03:25 | 5825979 ThroxxOfVron
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"But if you think the "public" legal system is fair roll me some of what you're smoking.  At least arbitration isn't funded with stolen money.   "

What Chris said.  

Roll that shit up and let's get to arbitrating.

& bring the guy with the cowbell along..

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:20 | 5825124 nmewn
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So you're opposed to "democracy"?

The neighbors think its "grand" ;-)

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:26 | 5825143 LetThemEatRand
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Interestingly, in a Democracy the community as a whole would have a say.   I have a problem with a few individuals profiteering at the expense of the community at large.  But call me "not the Fed."

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:50 | 5825234 Harbanger
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Which community? LGBT, etc..  We have many so you have to be more specific.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:52 | 5825240 nmewn
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51 to 49 is "democracy"...49 got the shaft, so I guess they'll have to move and setup something different ;-)

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 23:08 | 5825289 LetThemEatRand
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I guess you prefer 99.99 to .01, with .01 calling the shots?  That's what we have.  

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 23:47 | 5825438 nmewn
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No, I prefer the rule of law where no one (even a "king" and his court) is above it but since we don't have that anymore because of "democracy", I'm making my own.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 03:33 | 5825989 Tall Tom
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The Bill of Rights are not Civil Rights...

 

They are SOVEREIGN RIGHTS.

 

Rule of Law will work when a Sovereign is not above it.

 

You do not have to make your own Rule of Law. It is already pretty much codified in the US Constitution. All you need do is choose to exercise your rule.

 

Sovereign Citizens and Constitutionalists are NOT the enemy...as you already well know.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 05:44 | 5826121 GoldSilverBitcoinBug
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Democracy: 51 % attack.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 01:56 | 5825835 Ace006
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Your clarity is appreciated. Millions of Americans think what we have now is capitalism.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:17 | 5825111 nmewn
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Serious answer, there is no difference between crony-socialism and fascism.

None.

A true capitlist takes a gamble with his own savings, the risk is his and his alone, knowing he could lose it all or gain more than he risked. A crony-socialist (which is a fascist, look it up) knows government will back any losses (socialize it, spread it around) and allow any crony gain (the crony part) in order to tax it.

Its a better deal for both parties involved, the crony and the government always win.

Kinda like now ;-)

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:43 | 5825208 LetThemEatRand
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So given this obvious truth, let's follow the lead of the other societies that have managed to avoid cronyism.  I'm sure you can provide a link.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:53 | 5825243 nmewn
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I'm not much of a follower.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:53 | 5825244 Harbanger
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The next one.  It's gonna be perfect, I promise.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 00:51 | 5825612 cheech_wizard
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In China, some still occasionally catch a bullet. Party-approved caliber in most cases.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:47 | 5824998 surf0766
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Wrong fuck face it is either Cronyism or capitalism..

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:53 | 5825015 A Lunatic
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Exactly. I thought there was some sort of test people had to pass before posting here........

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:15 | 5825103 konputa
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If you've been around long enough you remember when we had to correctly answer math problems in order to post.

 

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:56 | 5825027 FireBrander
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It's one word "Fuckface".

"Crony capitalism is the marriage of the state and private special interests. Some people have called it corporatism, mercantilism, fascism, or even Communism.

We will call it crony capitalism."

 

http://www.againstcronycapitalism.org/what-is-crony-capitalism/

 

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:55 | 5825023 RaceToTheBottom
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Cause Jaimi Dimon, Blankfield, Mozillo, go on for years....... are government emplyees...

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:56 | 5825249 nmewn
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I betcha they're all fiscal conservatives or Libertarians ;-)

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:00 | 5825051 FireBrander
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If I "pay in" $20,000, through payroll deductions, to a Government wealth redistribution plan that takes from people that work and gives it to people that don't work, does that entitle the me, when I'm not working, to withdraw an unlimited amount...100's of thousands...Million plus?

 

REPEAL MEDICARE NOW!

Then Repeal ObamaCare...

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:09 | 5825091 SmallerGovNow2
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Please STFU...

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 10:21 | 5826657 Grimaldus
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Oh my, the progressive assclownism is strong with this one....

Listen fucktard, progressive criminals broke the law to bring us to this point. Crime, not capitalism.

Dont complain about it either. This is your criminal progressive utopia that makes the tingles run up and down your leg.

But wait, what is that you say? "The stupid, it burns!"

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dems-run-away-from-obamacare-penalty-t...

Ha Ha progressive criminal idiots are funny. Take other peoples money but not mine oh no. Just fuckin embrace your progressive suck and shut the fuck up assclown. Dont go away mad, just take your neo-stalinist clown ass and go away.

Grimaldus

 

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:49 | 5825002 surf0766
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Wait until the control the web then you will see what they really are.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 23:07 | 5825285 nmewn
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THERE!

There is the thing.

While everyone is preoccupied with Greece (who really gives a flying fuck here?) and the Ukraine (again, who the fuc cares, here) a regulatory body, unanswerable to anyone but The One...is preparing to do just that.

Why am I pissed at the Tylers?

For just that...every other article should be about until THESE 300 + MILLION get tired of seeing it!!!

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:41 | 5825202 VAD
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I've come to the conclusion that every -ism is a fucking lie.  How about just "freedom"?  Wanna be a commie?  Find a bunch of like-minded commies and start your own little commune.  Same goes for socialists, fascists, capitalists, etc.  But nobody has any right to force or coerce others in any way PERIOD.  The real issue and crux of many ills is a simple lack of freedom.

 

Chupacabra is right.  We're most accurately described as a fascist state at this moment.  Eventually it will collapse.  I just hope that what follows isn't something even more distasteful.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 02:22 | 5825892 A Nanny Moose
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Communism is simply Socialism, Extra Crispy. - Col Sanders.

Fascism is simply Socialism with Corporations. All are the result of obedience to The State.

Live long, and perspire.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 08:26 | 5826260 Meta_Consciousness
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Hitler killed people for being Marxist, but he used that German's ideas.

 

Fascists wrap their intentions under sheep skin of free shit for their army. It has nothing to do with some end point Marxist utopia, even if a billion fascists believed in that utopia.

Marx called on already crystallized German notions. 

Had a guy get angry when I said Obama wasn't a socialist, but a fascist. If they wanted a weather underground revolution it would have already happened. Now Ferguson fatigue will just galvanize the counter revolution.

But hey, May we all be wrong!

 

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:23 | 5824901 FireBrander
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"War on Success" Holy Fuck! Seriously, one of the Walton kids is worth $35 Billion...Is their any fucken war any part of Government can win?

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:31 | 5824919 FireBrander
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"For the first time in 35 years, American business deaths now outnumber business births"

Yeah, fucken-A-Right...exactly what needs to happen..do we need a Cherry Berry every 100 fucken feet across America? Do I need 3 FUCKEN TARGET STORES with 3 miles of my house?

Cheap money = FALSE business "activity" which includes "business births".

It's like the Bush Economic Callapse in 2008, millions of jobs lost INSTANTLY...FAKE FUCKEN JOBS...that should have never existed in the first place....Jobs created via Bush's "FIRE" economy and "Home Ownership Dream" society...ALL FUKEN FAKE.

"business deaths now outnumber business births" IS A GOOD THING...it is a sign we are righting the ship.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:34 | 5824956 Redneck Hippy
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America is doomed! America is doomed! 

Everyday on ZH...Promises, promises.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:35 | 5824958 Bullionaire
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You are truly an idiot. The man is talking about local small businesses, not FUCKEN TARGET AND FUCKEN WALMART.

Douche.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:39 | 5824972 FireBrander
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BS Bullion...

Cherry Berry's are locally owned Franchises...aka...small business owners...Same goes for fuken Subway...every time I spit I hit a subway...way too fuken many in this town...all due to cheap money.

If you shut down 50% of the subways in the USA, no one would go without a subway sub...you'd just have to drive an extra mile...I mean that fuken literally.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:55 | 5825025 NumNutt
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"Fuken"?!?! wow really where are you from, if your going to get on this site and bitch about shit at least spell correctly, it is "Fucking".

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 23:17 | 5825322 Dead Man Walking
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or even perhaps "fuckin' " as intended to be an accepted slang version of "fucking".  Poor spelling just makes you look stupid, especially "fucken".

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 07:48 | 5826202 kiwidor
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no it fuken isn't

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:56 | 5825029 cornfritter
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you are right, it is about easy money, it's about racketeering and most importantly, control... the small town closest to where i leave forbade walmart from building a store... i'm suyre many bitched, you and i know they did the right thing ... but they were protecting their interests and business, many of which would have gone under in short order.. i applaud the decision, and don't mind paying 5%-10% extra, knowing more of my neighbors actually have jobs... people need to begin talking very clearly about automation and efficiency, they are important, and they are not going away ... if leadership doesn't unbridle this country with honest monetary policy, it's freakin' doomed ... two generations already destroyed

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:15 | 5825073 i_call_you_my_base
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Christ, you need to understand what a franchise business is. No money is made on one franchise. An owner of one franchise is lucky if they make as much as an employee. Please, stfu. No one is opening a franchise on low rates. Those individuals opening a franchise are doing it with their life savings. Go into your local bank and try to get a loan to open a mccdonald's.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 23:28 | 5825356 putaipan
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i hate spelling freaks and besides- it might be the acceptable alternate to 'fookin'

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 08:29 | 5826271 Meta_Consciousness
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I swear to the flying spaghetti monster if anyone corrects me for using y'all I will go drunk kung fu on them.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:45 | 5824991 robobbob
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What economy are you operating in? I'm watching companies that have been around, 20, 50 and even 100 years going down. There wasn't anything fake about them. And with them are going decent paying jobs being replaced by either part-time, lower paying, or nothing at all.

The pace of collapse has slowed since '08, but its still sinking. Now and then there is a little burst of growth, but it never comes close to reversing the trend. The wall street/washington nexus is a major source of this destruction, and they are the most insulated, even benefiting from it. This ship is not going to stop sinking, let alone be righted until that problem is dealt with.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:51 | 5825006 FireBrander
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Name one of the "20, 50 and even 100 years going down" and I will tell you what was fake about them.

20 years is beating the odds.

50 is buying a fair number of politicians.

100 years is buying all the right politicians for a century.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 02:27 | 5825900 Max Cynical
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"Name one of the "20, 50 and even 100 years going down" and I will tell you what was fake about them."

Umm, Radio Shack founded in 1921.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 11:59 | 5827070 FireBrander
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RS failed in the late 1980's; "financial engineering' has kept it going for the last 25 years...especially the last decade during which pure cheap money injections kept it alive.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:02 | 5825040 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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I do agree there's so much BS, it's hard to know who the winners and losers really should be.

But I really doubt the economy is somehow correcting while BS is still ramping.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:00 | 5825048 Wild E Coyote
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Your statements are kind of mixed up. But you got the basic point right. 

Printed money creates job too. But the chances are they will be abused and create bogus business. 

Like that time, when someone said, he is losing money on per transaction, but makes it up with volume. Wow!!

When situation reaches extreme like as it already happened in US, good business will also suffer. 

When you see P/E shoot so very high on companies that has never made a single penny in profits, you know something is very wrong. 

In Indonesia they say, CCN Coruption, Collusion, Nepotism. which created their 1998 monetory crisis. US is exactly in same place now. 

Fracking unbelievable. Now, we all die. Does not matter if we had been doing all good all this time. 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:45 | 5825215 VAD
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When the foundation of the entire shit-show is a FAKE form of money, it's hardly possible to build anything real on it. 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:02 | 5825065 Chris88
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Very apparent you either live with mommy or are a public sector (aka useless) employee.  Stop bitching about people that take risk, create, and succeed.  Walton created the largest private employer on the face of the earth; way more jobs than you provide.  Go find your friends at the next "you didn't build that" ass clown rally.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:19 | 5825109 FireBrander
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Man are you ever a Patsy...holy shit...defending Walmart.."take risk, create, and succeed"..right out of the Rightwingnut indoctrination manual...

Ok Patsy try to follow along.

1. Create part time, low pay, no benefit jobs.

2. This qualifies the "employee" for welfare benefits..Medicaid, SNAP, SECTION 8, etc.

3. Walton kids are multi-billoinaires.

4. Taxpayers spend billions subsidising Walmart employees so that they can afford housing, health and food...

See it, or if Limbaugh doesn't say it, you ain't listening?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:21 | 5825126 Chris88
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Walmart is the largest private employer on earth.  The taxpayers paying for welfare has nothing to do with Walmart itself.  Walmart is not enslaving people; those employees can quit at any time.  I'm not a patsy, I just work in the private sector.  I'm a libertarian, not a "right winger", so the whole "bush sucks" thing doesn't quite bother me as I agree with it. Go study for your sociology exam little guy.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:27 | 5825152 FireBrander
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"The taxpayers paying for welfare has nothing to do with Walmart itself"

Good Deity Patsy, seriously, you see no connection?

Does Walmart lobby for the repeal of the Welfare state? Or it's expansion?

"With the farm bill on the table this year, companies and organizations across the country have pulled out their big guns to lobby on [TO EXPAND and FULLY FUND] the SNAP program. Seventy-one groups ranging from Wal-Mart Stores to Cornell University to Arch Coal are lobbying on the subject"

 

Welfare and Walmart = no connection?

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2012/12/more-than-70-groups-in-play-over...

 

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:41 | 5825200 Chris88
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The government creates welfare, not Walmart.  Go on and tell me one private company that employs more people globally, I won't hold my breath.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:51 | 5825237 VAD
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A good first step to solving the problems you stated would be to abolish the government subsidies that allow the problems to fester and grow.  No subsidies for lazy. parasite business.  No subsidies for lazy, parasite  individuals.   

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:26 | 5824914 blindman
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2okOuZ8T_o
John Prine - The Great Compromise

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:40 | 5824976 cornfritter
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Nice ... I see you, and raise you Tedeschi's version of Angel From Montgomery :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrSK-0-MQ8s

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:01 | 5825057 blindman
blindman's picture

i see your raise and raise this old
thing to the attention of the pot.
.
Grateful Dead - Sugaree 1972 (Studio Version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GikGnKuehms

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:12 | 5825099 cornfritter
Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:30 | 5825161 blindman
blindman's picture

ok, that is is some sick shite.
granted, can't lose type stuff.
but, there is always much more.
.
Lonnie Johnson - Summertime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPnnA7R_avQ
.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:46 | 5825216 Westcoastliberal
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My wife used to visit the Dead at their house in SF back in the day, and I love some of their stuff, but I'm with Cornfritter, Tedeschi wins. Search utube for tedeschi trucks

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 23:33 | 5825386 putaipan
Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:32 | 5824948 Chupacabra-322
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NAFTA, CAFTA & the soon to be final nail in the coffin the TPP. All Criminal, all done by design, all done by agenda.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:32 | 5824949 Divine Wind
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His early point about taxes on S Corps and LLCs is spot on.

I experience this every year.

Painful.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:32 | 5824950 acetinker
acetinker's picture

Can't say why, but I just don't trust this Maloney fella.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:57 | 5825034 shovelhead
shovelhead's picture

That's easy.

He's not Jewish.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:00 | 5825049 ArtOfLife
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Maybe because he used to sell used car stereo equipment and then became a gold expert.

Sat, 02/28/2015 - 21:42 | 5841202 acetinker
acetinker's picture

That's funny shit, AOL!

Just about any asshole can put on a suit and tie and pretend to be an 'expert' these days.  Maloney is baloney, IMHO.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:34 | 5824952 Son of Loki
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I listened to a radio talk show this afternoon where the guests said testing kids if harmful to their brains, as are giving them "bad grades." They opined "no child should receive negative feedback like that no matter what his grades or class participation level is." They also said teaching speed, "should be geared to the slowest child."

 

wtf ?!

 

Merica, 21st century. It's no wonder our kids perform lower then Somalia and New Guinea on International Exams.

 

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:46 | 5824994 Accounting101
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Bullshit! There are three international tests that compare academic achievement: TIMSS, PISA, and PIRLS. According to all three, US students not living in poverty score as high or higher than anywhere else in the world. Our 4th grade math students scored on par with those great Finnish students and on the PIRLS assessment (Reading) we were in the top 5. That's it. Those are the assessments. Anything else you hear is pure bullshit.

Someone thinks you're stupid. Oh, and your radio will often lie to you.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:54 | 5825017 nc551
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Aren't most US kids living in poverty?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:48 | 5825226 Accounting101
Accounting101's picture

No, they are not.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:07 | 5825083 Gaius Frakkin' ...
Gaius Frakkin' Baltar's picture

Links?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 23:04 | 5825257 Accounting101
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https://nces.ed.gov/TIMSS/results11_math11.asp

http://nces.ed.gov/surveys/pirls/pirls2011.asp

This damn nonsense about our public school system being equated to some third world hell hole is pure adulterated bullshit. A giant fucking lie. I wonder who benefits from such lies?

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 01:04 | 5825648 cheech_wizard
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Tell me again about the wonders of a California public education?

At least in Buffalo NY, the teachers can get all the cosmetic surgery they want on the taxpayer's dime...

Wait, you need links, don't you?

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_24475260/california-students-score-at-bott...

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/01/why-does-buffalo-pay...

Using government websites as links was your first mistake. Seriously? Let me shake my head in disbelief a few more times. I could go on an on, and if I dug hard enough, I could discredit your .gov links.

 

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 06:52 | 5826163 Accounting101
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Don't bother to respond if you are going to be stupid. The links I provided are the results of the international tests that compare student achievement worldwide. Those are the assessments, everything is pure bullshit.

Now, your ignorance is your burden to bear. Somebody placed a bet that you're incredibly dumb and they fed you a pile of shit about how bad public education is and that our students are at the bottom of the barrel internationally. You've eaten the pile of shit and have asked for more.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 04:11 | 5826029 are we there yet
are we there yet's picture

I think you just said that America's white kids are as smart as Finland's white kids. Is it legal to say that out loud?

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 06:51 | 5826166 Accounting101
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No, actually I didn't say that. The math comparisons were not disaggregated with regards to socio/economic conditions, race or sex.

Not all poor children are black and brown. There is a whole lot of poor white folk too.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 06:54 | 5826167 FredFlintstone
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Our kindergartener's are just about as smart as anyone's. Our 12th graders? Not so much. 12 years in the care of unionized zombies will do that to you.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:35 | 5824962 Callz d Ballz
Callz d Ballz's picture

Captain Obvious strikes again.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:38 | 5824967 prefan4200
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"They are almost trying to make the economy worse...."

Whaddya mean "almost"???  This administration is most definitely and without a doubt trying to make the economy worse.  They are trying to make EVERYTHING worse !  The economy, foreign policy, healthcare, the oil industry, market manipulations, porous borders, etc.  That way, at some point, chaos sets in within our borders and they can implement their jack-boot martial law heavy-handed government "solutions".  "almost"?  For Christ sake, wake up - that's the PLAN !

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:43 | 5824986 FireBrander
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"This administration is most definitely"

Ok Jackass...the Republicans controll Congress..so everything will get better from here on out?

Are you that fucken stupid?

 

Barring a veto, there's no blaming Obama for things getting worse from here on out...

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:00 | 5825052 MayIMommaDogFac...
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Barring a veto, there's no blaming Obama for things getting worse from here on out...

He is in the driver's seat -- just sayin'.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:06 | 5825079 FireBrander
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Laws and Spending come out of Congress...the President can go along or veto...but he cannot write/pass law.

Republicans need to put up or shut up here and now.

No 10,000 page bills...1 item, 1 bill, at a time.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 23:06 | 5825280 Duc888
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Firebrander:Laws and Spending come out of Congress...the President can go along or veto...but he cannot write/pass law.

 

Executive orders.  Even when they have no Constitutional basis, Chalky the Clown pulls them from his sphincter.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 23:10 | 5825295 buzzy_the_pirate_dog
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Except those darn executive orders, but hell both obozo and mr. coke have done plenty with EO.  Face it, this is not a demoturd vs. republotwat thing..this is a fucked up system thing.  If you can't get that then, well, sorry.  Because all of the love coming from the NSA is due to "Congress".  Fuck, unconstitutional behavior and abuse of power is a hallmark of that little house that had to be built closer to Virginia (which btw is the basis of the first national bank compromise).

Oh fuck it.  Never mind. 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 23:33 | 5825377 zstard
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see below

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:04 | 5825071 NumNutt
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Except for all the fucked up policies that he put in place that continue to destroy the economy (Obamacare, EPA regulations, common core, immigration, just to name a few), Your right in one respect, nothing will change until Obama is voted out of office, now shut up and get back in line. We still have two more years....

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:05 | 5825074 SmallerGovNow2
SmallerGovNow2's picture

nice rack but you're an idiot...

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 23:58 | 5825463 prefan4200
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You're the stupid jackass, Firebrander, so go fuck yourself.  Things are already pretty fucking bad from what Obama has already done. By design.  And he just vetoed the Keystone pipeline today so take your shit about "barring a veto" and stuff it up your ass.  He's fucking vetoing anything the Repugnants send to him, driving change around Congress through regulatory policy, issuing executive orders that are unconstitutional, and driving his idiotic foreign policy, so yeah, he's still in charge, dipshit. If a Repugnant were doing the same thing right now, I'd be blaming him, too.

Have a nice day.  Asshole.

 

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 00:16 | 5825499 2handband
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He's not in charge. Does anyone believe that half-baked horseshit? He says or does nothing he isn't told to say or do... and the next president, whether repbub or dem, will be taking orders from the same people. You folks are wasting your anger on the puppets.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:38 | 5824969 blindman
blindman's picture

it seems most all dreams are doomed
in the morning light.
.
John Prine and Ani Difranco, 9-10-11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXzfcaaVmII
.
temporal dynamics, and all, requiring
adaption, improvisation and adjustments.
.
and all is just a longing for peace
and quiet for a while or once.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:42 | 5824979 A Lunatic
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It's not quantity, it's quality....... Shit, we don't have that either......

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:44 | 5824990 gwar5
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If the bankers can kill the economy and make everybody pay them back $18 Trillion in higher value dollars, instead of inflating it away, they'll be doing alright for themselves.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 23:20 | 5825328 oldschool
oldschool's picture

How, exactly, do they get repayment from a dead economy?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:47 | 5824997 blindman
blindman's picture

one thing clear, the basic unit is a fraud.
what is a job? what is time? what is valued
work?
truth is, no one can say it yet
everyone knows it.
.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:55 | 5825021 FreeShitter
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America is already dead, you just havent felt the death blow.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:59 | 5825043 I Write Code
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Don't need no stinking industry, we can print money and all be commie organizers!

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:00 | 5825050 zeropain
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Leverage 401k to start a business tax bill?

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