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Western "Boots On The Ground" In Ukraine: Britain Sends 75 "Military Advisers" To Combat "Russia-Backed Aggression"

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In what we believe is the first touchdown of Western 'boots-on-the-ground' in Ukraine, Britain's David Cameron stated today that British military personnel are to be deployed to Ukraine for the first time in the next few weeks to provide advice and training to government troops. As The Guardian reports, Britain would be “the strongest pole in the tent”, and argued for tougher sanctions against Moscow if Russian-backed militias in eastern Ukraine failed to observe the ceasefire. The MoD said up to 75 personnel would begin to deploy to Ukraine from next month as Cameron warned sanctions could become "materially different" and held out SWIFT exclusion once again.

 

As The Guardian reports,

British military personnel are to be deployed to Ukraine for the first time in the next few weeks to provide advice and training to government troops, David Cameron announced before a committee of MPs.

 

The prime minister said Britain would be “the strongest pole in the tent”, and argued for tougher sanctions against Moscow if Russian-backed militias in eastern Ukraine failed to observe the provisions of a ceasefire agreement reached this month with the Ukrainian president, Petro Poroshenko.

 

The Ministry of Defence said up to 75 personnel would begin to deploy to Ukraine from next month as part of the training mission... for up to six months.

 

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Cameron said Europe listened to Britain on how to implement sanctions, and he said the level of sanctions “might become materially different” in the future . He held out the possibility of excluding Russia from the international Swift banking payments system, saying there was a logic to such a move if Moscow continued trying to “dismember” Ukraine.

 

“I think what we should be putting in to place is a sense that if there is another Debaltseve [a Ukrainian town seized by pro-Russia forces this month] then that will trigger a round of sanctions that will be materially different to what we have seen so far,” he said.

 

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He suggested it would be “miraculous” if the terms of the 12 February ceasefire agreement brokered in Minsk by Merkel and Hollande were met in full.

 

The prime minister said the UK was not at the stage of providing “lethal weapons” to Ukraine, but hinted that might change if the US changed its view.

 

“We have announced a whole series of non-lethal equipment – night-vision goggles, body armour – which we have already said that we will give to Ukraine,” he said. “Over the course of the next month we are going to be deploying British service personnel to provide advice and a range of training, from tactical intelligence to logistics to medical care, which is something else they have asked for.

 

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He said there was no doubt about Russian support for the rebels. “What we are seeing is Russian-backed aggression, often these are Russian troops, they are Russian tanks, they are Russian Grad missiles. You can’t buy these things on eBay, they are coming from Russia, people shouldn’t be in any doubt about that.

 

“We have got the intelligence, we have got the pictures and the world knows that. Sometimes people don’t want to see that but that is the fact.”

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We suspect Putin will not be impressed at the 'encroachment'.

 

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Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:34 | 5823381 waterwitch
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BULLISH!

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:36 | 5823394 kliguy38
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They won't even be noticed with the other 10,000 Western Mercs on the ground already "fighting for Ukraine freedom".....hehehhehehehe...watta scam

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:40 | 5823408 Wolferl
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The Anglo-American empire wants war with the the Russians, no doubt about that. Let´s see if they are read to send Tommys and Sams to get killled in Ukraine. But i guess they´ll send Canuks and Aussies, their usual cannon fodder.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:43 | 5823435 SoilMyselfRotten
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Can't have mercs on the ground w/o advisors

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:46 | 5823462 Manthong
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Don’t forget about the Kiwi’s.

They always go along with the Aussies and Canucks.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:48 | 5823465 Kitler
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Cameron will be sure to send in his legendary Scottish Highlanders. Scotlands bloodlust for war was clearly affirmed when it finally legally acceded to British Imperialism in the past referendum.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:49 | 5823489 SWRichmond
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They just want to get some uniformed NATO troops killed, then blame it on the Russians = WW3.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:57 | 5823551 Theosebes Goodfellow
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Naw, you're just looking way too ahead. All this is about is keeping the SAS sharp. You know, just some practice war. /sarc

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:06 | 5823570 ZerOhead
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"He said there was no doubt about Russian support for the rebels. “What we are seeing is Russian-backed aggression, often these are Russian troops, they are Russian tanks, they are Russian Grad missiles. You can’t buy these things on eBay, they are coming from Russia, people shouldn’t be in any doubt about that."

ISIS however apparently does buy it's weapons on eBay and it seems the British are more than happy to deliver them...

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13931204001534

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:07 | 5823598 Ghordius
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I can't believe the gall to do this. France and Germany are at the negotiating table and he sends troops there. I really wonder what the Eastern Europeans will write about this, in the next days

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:30 | 5823706 smlbizman
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so should we call 1 800 ltd florist and get those 75 bouquets of flowers ready......and what street should we send them to for the greetings and stuff...you know a little somethin' for the effort and all....

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:56 | 5823809 BaBaBouy
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""75 personnel would begin to deploy to Ukraine from next month as Kameren warned sanctions could become "materially different" and held out SWIFT exclusion""

Thems Is Fightin' Words... This Fuckin Guy WANTS WAR... Like The Real Thing WW3 !!!!!!!!!!!!!

If SWIFT Access Is Pulled, That Would Set Putin OFF, Thats Like Pressing The Button Right There... Fuckin Idiots...

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 17:02 | 5823873 BaBaBouy
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WW3... I Guess Thats ONE-WAY To Get Rid Of Those Pesky HFT Compuders...

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 17:24 | 5823979 TruthInSunshine
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Limey Cunt Cameron is an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 18:39 | 5824267 COSMOS
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Charge of the Light Brigade 2.0 going down in 3...2...1...

Get more British boys killed so they can let more Muzzies into GB.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:14 | 5824674 conscious being
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Isn't Cameron or whatever his name is a tribalist? I believe so. Btw, the Guardian is insane on Ukraine. Pro-Nazi all the way.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:28 | 5824735 fleur de lis
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I can't believe the British public will go along with this after Northern Ireland, the Falklands, and the disasterous mideast wars. What makes them think they will do any better in Ukraine?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 18:10 | 5824145 kananga
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Apparently the Brits were feeling left out.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 10:13 | 5826624 giovanni_f
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That was only because nobody spoke English at Minsk. Negotiation was done in Russian, Merkel translated to Hollande what she thought he needed to know. Poroshenko wasn't asked.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:30 | 5823707 McMolotov
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This could rightfully be seen as an attempt by the US and UK to undermine the influence of France and Germany. I'm starting to wonder how much the people "at the top" actually talk to one another anymore. I find that extremely disconcerting.

It seems the West isn't nearly as united as the media have led us to believe. This could easily turn into one hell of a (much bigger) mess.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:44 | 5823775 ZerOhead
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This is all part of a much larger plan that has been developed over years by the NeoCons. There are 'rifts' in the ranks however (Kissinger etc.) so hopefully a situation in which a nuclear war could start still might be avoided.

That said the NeoLiberalisation and financialisation of Western economies has weakened them massively to the point of collapse while building up new potential enemies like China. So don't expect anything positve to come from these NeoGeniuses...

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 18:49 | 5824245 giovanni_f
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US and UK were left out in negotiations in Minsk. Peace was never an option for them. Plan was and is to disrupt any process that might leasd to a stabilization of Ukraine. UK has made a start with this symbolic gesture in the hope Russia will react to this provocation. If Russia keeps cool - what it will, they will continue with provocations. At some point US will enter the scene, at that point we know that UK has played its role as first provoker and US will overtake.

US and UK have the corrupt Ukrainian oligarchs on their side. That guarantees that Ukraine is completely doomed.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:46 | 5823791 justmy2cents
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Ghordius - I must admit I'm in total shock too.

IF and only IF Camoron is trying to make himself look like a big man for the May elections may this be a non event OTHERWISE the NWO has shown it's hand and THERE WILL BE WAR.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 17:16 | 5823945 fredquimby
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I am still lost for words

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 17:32 | 5824015 new game
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WTF, with head hung down, still wondering wtf...

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:31 | 5824453 GCT
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@Ghordius

This is the only move that worries me Ghordius.  Germany and France and I imagine most of the Europeans do not want war again on thier continent.  France was invited along for cover while Ms Merkel made the deal.  Most Western people do not know squat about what is going on over there. I imagine most Europeans do not know much either.

I dread this to be honest and Putin stated he will use tactical nukes if he had too.  This is not a smart move on Cameron's part but GB is in bed with the USA.  We are mad in my mind to play chess in this region.  The Kiev government has already lost and many news outlets around the world are reporting it.  Even Poroshenko's military are telling the worlld they got their asses handed to them in the cauldron.

But the USA is dead set on trying to control the old silk road.  It may well be our undoing as more and more allies tell the USA to stop meddling in their region.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 00:34 | 5825564 IronForge
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Looks like Mister Cameron needs a War more than anyone else.  

With the Economic Turmoil, desolate Mfg Base, cheap Oil, and Real Estate (only thing propping them up) due to Bubble and Collapse - he's due to be booted pretty soon when the GBR Economy dives...

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:10 | 5823611 BorisTheBlade
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No need for ebay, ISIS took much of their weapons from 'moderate' Muslims, lol.

As far as Ukraine, it was always packed with Soviet-era weapons, which were there even despite the fact that Ukraine was trading them left and right. Rebels took their weapons either from old arsenals or from Ukrainian army, look how much they left behind in Debaltsevo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S1iMG9gBH4 . Also, notice at 1:33 instructions written in English for exactly the reason that Western mercs are commanding Ukrainian troops, ahem 'advising' them.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:30 | 5823709 TheFourthStooge-ing
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We have got the intelligence, we have got the pictures and the world knows that. Sometimes people don’t want to see that but that is the fact.

...except the pictures are from Georgia in 2008. How intelligent is that?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:05 | 5823592 Squid Viscous
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send that faggot Cameron to the front! pronto!

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:08 | 5823603 ZerOhead
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Biden already sent his son... perhaps Cameron could send his wife...

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:28 | 5823687 sun tzu
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Biden sent his son to loot what is left of Ukraine after the bankers are done. It would be wonderful if the Ukrainians lynched all of these western carpetbaggers destroying their country

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 17:59 | 5824099 geno-econ
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By Golly, I think youve got it----- Those 75 Englishmen are being sent to God foresaken Ukraine to protect Poroshenko and Little Biden, and to teach them how to speak proper English.  Yes I think Youve got it

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:28 | 5823698 angel_of_joy
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Well, the Brits are having general elections in May this year. If Cameron thinks that sending troops into Ukraine is a winning strategy (say, against UKIP) then I wish him the best of luck. Personally, I believe he'll be sorely dissapointed... Time will tell.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:02 | 5824356 logicalman
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Cameron would shit his pants if you were to sneak up behind him and say BOO.

He's only brave enough to send others to die so that he and his cronies can stay home and use tough words.

To say I despise him and all like him is a HUGE understatement. I don't think the words I'm looking for exist in the English language.

 

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 07:09 | 5826177 Rodders75
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Too right he is a fucking twat.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:51 | 5823510 the phantom
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 The prime minister said the UK was not at the stage of providing “lethal weapons” to Ukraine, but hinted that might change if the US changed its view.

Who said the Brits were the lap dogs of the US??  That would just be silly.  Oh wait...

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:01 | 5823573 giggler321
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It's quoted wrong - that's 75% of personnel and going by all the fly overs around my village; they've been training for this atleast 6months.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 17:18 | 5823960 SteveNYC
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I don't think modern day Britain is capable of delivering such a dose of lethality to Russia, adequate to have the bear even bother to turn its head.....

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 06:24 | 5826148 EddieLomax
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So you propose that we should not be lap dogs of the US by being lap dogs of the Russian's?

Sod both of them, the UK is a sovereign country and Ukraine is a sovereign country, Russia has no say over our decision to send lethal weaponry to Ukraine, especially since it is eagerly sending lethal weaponry to Argentina.

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 06:34 | 5826154 Ghordius
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"the UK is a sovereign country..."

yes, and the UK releases news that it will send military advisors to Ukraine while Germany and France are at the negotiating table with Ukraine and Russia

which is a diplomatic affront to both France and Germany even if you want to leave Ukraine and Russia out of it

even if there are secret agreements among them. The Cameron Cabinet shows that it gives a fig about continental perceptions. Nothing new in this

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:31 | 5824745 Urtica ferox
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I gather our Glorious Leader (Without a Mandate), John Key (all hail!) wants to send some of our army guys to help out the Seppos. Just want y'all to know not all kiwis agree with Key - in fact probably the majority oppose it.

Was discussing this with a couple of "educated" acquaintances last night who were all RaRa!! for it - until my question "If it's such a good idea, why don't you two join the army and go help out?"

<<Crickets>>

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 21:23 | 5824906 SteveNYC
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Down under, they have been lulled into some sense of "Russia is weak", a "faded military power" etc etc. They have no idea. The boat Putin parked off Brisbane a few months back could have taken out the entire Aussie navy without breaking a sweat. And its not their navy you need to worry about. This is a country to be left alone militarily, and the pollies need to wise up with their rhetoric and propaganda before shit starts getting out of control.

Give Minsk II a go, let these guys sort out their border problems and everybody else can stay home.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:51 | 5823506 Metalredneck
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ANZAC, FTW.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:33 | 5823722 The_Prisoner
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Gallipoli 2, the "legend" continues.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 18:58 | 5824338 AUD
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The news this morning is several thousand Australian & New Zealand troopers off to Iraq in an "advisory" capacity. Ukraine is sure to follow.

Anyone would think there was a debt crisis with the way they're blowing billions of $ on military adventure. Not to mention the $billions they have already & will continue to blow on domestic "anti terror" stuff.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 17:35 | 5824021 Abitdodgie
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Anyone who has joined the army and commited thier life to killing other humans can go die a sad wasted death because they are the scum of the world , what the fuck has Ukraine done to America or England , that's right nothing but don't worry plenty of people will be happy to go, please go die for your masters you pices of shit.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 22:19 | 5825122 opport.knocks
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I can't imagine too many Canadians volunteering for this mission, especially those Canadians of Ukrainian heritage.

Also there are already advisors from the US, including 2 generals over there. What more advice can they possibly give? They already have the false flag angle, and PR war covered

Ukraine's real problem is they do not have an army that wants to shoot their own countrymen for the benefit of a bunch of corrupt oligarchs and the US's geo-poliitical interests

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:43 | 5823436 BorisTheBlade
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It was an open secret, this makes it official. The only thing left is for Western 'advisers' to come in direct confrontation with the Russian ones.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:31 | 5823714 Bankster Kibble
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It probably already happened in Debaltsevo.  Who were those black skinned soldiers fighting for the pro-Kiev forces?  The Ukraine army is lily white.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:30 | 5824750 conscious being
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Kiev officer describes Deblatsevo Bug-Out. From the Saker  blog.

http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=wQUvueRQNQk

A few minutes in he describes passing Black African tank crew as he helps his men escape. Scathing attack on the Junta HQ.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 18:23 | 5824200 The.Harmless.Jew
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Superb Comment.  

 

Can just add, that mercs (ex and current) IDF have been there since the start of the coup.  

 

Victoria Nudelman, IDF, it keeps happening.... 

 

Furthermore, it appears that the "advisors" (yeah right!), have been in Ukraine for a while, but the Govenment could no longer keep a lid on the story, and so they released it as "news". 

 

What's become of this world eh!

 

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 18:30 | 5824236 holgerdanske
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And they have been handed their asses on a plate. Rightly so; and it will happen this time too.

How do some people get away with being so idiotic and still have a public position.?

 

It makes a mockery out of democracy.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:42 | 5823411 knukles
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Oh fuck me.  This is just about how all the other Color Revolutions, etc., started.  With the Frenchies and Brits (SAS, SBS) on the ground, etc.
Then of course, with the Frog aircraft carrier Clouseau in the Gulf, they'll run out of bombs by the 3rd day like they did in Libya and viola, the Yanks will have to resupply and put some boots on the ground to resupply the re-suppliers, meanwhile Opj's'll be off golfing and speaking about if Al Sharpton had a son it would look just like a Wookie.

As the Guardian said, "Britain would be “the strongest pole in the tent”.  The tent has been named the Dolphin, a 3 child and one adult, all male model, after the apartment complex in London used for mercianry child molestiong purposes by the Brit high Lords and Lads of the Establishment.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:49 | 5823491 Stoploss
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It's mission creep knucks.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:12 | 5823618 ZerOhead
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It's mission leap Stoploss...

Wed, 02/25/2015 - 02:30 | 5825912 one_hundred
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my neighbor's mother makes $86 /hr on the computer . She has been laid off for 10 months but last month her pay was $21128 just working on the computer for a few hours. go to the website... www.globe-report.com

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:35 | 5823386 saints51
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If the British are on your team then you know its a loss.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:38 | 5823405 NoDebt
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You're really selling the French short with that comment.

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:39 | 5823414 saints51
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I count them as British.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:39 | 5823416 knukles
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Toot Sweet!

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:45 | 5823461 HamRove
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Just like the Brits to bring a knife to a gun fight. 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:55 | 5823837 stilletto
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UK get to vote this dangerous warmongering child Cameron out in May. The only UK political party calling for UK to mind its own business and stop promoting war is Nigel Farage's UKIP. Yet another reason to vote Ukip - the only anti WW3 party!

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:49 | 5823490 IridiumRebel
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French already surrendered.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:35 | 5823389 barry2001
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If you are into drones check out this site http://pickyourdrone.com/

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:36 | 5823393 Duc888
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What about all the Western Mercs that got greased over he last year?  Oh, they're "unofficial".  Got it.

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:40 | 5823420 Icelandicsaga.....
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Look under the rubble .. many of them are Poles, a few from other East European puppet states.. for US and NATO that is.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:44 | 5823446 Chupacabra-322
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You mean these "get outta my face" Mercs?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jW1JdOXdJkU

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 17:42 | 5824049 Abitdodgie
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Make's sence to start the conflict sorry war at the end of March beggining of April as Satan loves his burn offering about that time as the Free Masons know thats why they always have the bar-berque "get together" at that time.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:36 | 5823395 timeless21
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MOAR WAR, please

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:37 | 5823396 Chupacabra-322
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"advisors?" Or Mercnaries?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:38 | 5823409 NoDebt
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Potato, potahtoe.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:22 | 5823669 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Speaking of potatoes, the Kiev Yatzi junta might be setting themselves up for a potato shortage if they outsource too much of this to Latvia:

Ukraine's "Ministry of Truth" is hiring Internet trolls
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/02/ukraines-ministry-of-truth-is-hirin...

How I became a Ukrainian information warrior
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/02/how-i-became-ukraines-information.html

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:37 | 5823397 YouSerious
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Looks like the Brits have had enough, Putin must be scrambling to find an escape plan here that ends without his head on pike.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:42 | 5823433 froze25
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If there is one thing I don't think I will ever see in my life it is Putins head on a pike.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:29 | 5823701 Bankster Kibble
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Only on Photoshop.  But they do grow big pike in those Siberian rivers - look at the one Putin caught.  40 pounds!

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 18:26 | 5824219 Niall Of The Ni...
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Very funny.

In the real world, Putin is the only European leader with much chance of dying in bed, and the only one who deserves to.

Dave REALLY won't enjoy his very long holiday in Siberia with the rest of his chums from Eton---or at any rate not nearly as much as Nigel Farage and the British people will enjoy sending him there.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 18:46 | 5824298 COSMOS
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The chances are much more likely you will see your kids with their skin peeling off post atomic blast.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:06 | 5824374 logicalman
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Are YouSerious???

I think you are TakingThePiss!

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:37 | 5823400 mtndds
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TRANSITORY, BULLISH!!!

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:38 | 5823406 BandGap
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Meant to boost morale. Part 1 of the scariest scenario we may see in my lifetime.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:38 | 5823407 vyeung
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they already had BLACKWATER in there and look how well that turned out for them. Fouls errand by the Anglo Zionists. But I'm sure they are there to create some fake BS so they can throw gasoline over the fire. Thats all they want, a BIGGER/LARGER and MORE CRAZY CONFLICT so the fascist NATO outfit can expand and cause WW3.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:39 | 5823413 Arrowflinger
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More boots...than the neo-nazi's in the Kiev government have?

Who would have thought that the boots of Nazis would have been too weak?

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:39 | 5823415 RealityCheque
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"We've got an election in May so get out there Dave, posture up, talk tough and look like a fucking man for once!"

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:41 | 5823426 Mi Naem
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Wouldn't the Kiev forces be using the same Russian-origin equipment that the anti-Kiev forces are using? 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:55 | 5823544 Duc888
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Mi Naem

"Wouldn't the Kiev forces be using the same Russian-origin equipment that the anti-Kiev forces are using? "

 

Well, yes and no. Hoopty Armor gets a second and third life.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/02/24/caught-junk-metal-show-in-kiev-a...

 

 

 

 

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:42 | 5823428 ThisIsBob
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The US, having royally fucked things up, will now be getting some real help from the Brits.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:15 | 5823634 Winston Churchill
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Don't mention the(Crimean) War.

It may be ongoing as the income tax was a purely temporary measure to fund it.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:14 | 5824406 logicalman
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It looks like anywhere the US sticks it's nose in just ends up as a total clusterfuck.

I think that's the plan, not an accident, so in their eyes, they haven't fucked up.

In case you hadn't noticed, these fucks don't give a shit about what the public thinks and are incapable of stepping outside their own little self-created 'realities' and so they don't see it when they fuck up.

No such thing as good government.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:08 | 5823429 Frank N. Beans
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Oh, like the Uke troops need advice from the Brits on how to fight.  Nice try Cameron.

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:42 | 5823431 beavertails
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Lol.  75 Observers.  If you really want to end the war, send them 75 cooks and feed them Haggis

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:44 | 5823449 Wolferl
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Haggis is underrated. It´s pretty good actually.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:48 | 5823473 rsnoble
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What is it? I'm hungry.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:53 | 5823515 Wolferl
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Offal mixed with pearl barley, cocked in a sheep stomach. Comes with mashed potatos and cooked swedes. And a lot of whisky. Yummy.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:16 | 5823641 Winston Churchill
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Great in batter at Scottish chip shops.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 17:22 | 5823975 WTFUD
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. . . with a fried battered mars bar for dessert. What heart attack . . ?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:17 | 5824419 logicalman
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Got to be a bit careful.

I remember in the 70s in Scotland, a friend of mine lost a tooth biting into one of those chip shop hagis things.

It had metal pieces holding the ends closed that were hidden by the batter!

Plus, we were drunk!

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:41 | 5824778 conscious being
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During my UK sojourn, my local chippy used to offer deep fried frozen pizza, w/ and w/o pepperoni.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:38 | 5823728 McMolotov
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I've always thought haggis probably came about as a drunken bet. As in, "Hey, I dare you to eat this!"

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:55 | 5823824 ZerOhead
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Hadrian is rumored to have built the wall to keep the Scots from eating 'Roman sausage'...

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:53 | 5823526 Metalredneck
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Scottish food-substitute.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:54 | 5824580 flapdoodle
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In my experience, haggis taste great - once you have a half bottle of single malt under your belt.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:43 | 5823440 litemine
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There is no truth nor trasparency from the western Leaders even if we do elect them. That is why the leakers are so sought after. As a Canadian looking back at the wars and seeing how The Governments knowingly threw  Canadian Regiments to their deaths have taught me never fight for the System. Now even more so the System is Broken and the Elite do not deserve an other chance. Those that do the Governments bidding against the people are Minnions and should be treated as such......If any opportunity presents itself. JMHO.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:44 | 5823447 fredquimby
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Anyone got any good jokes?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:45 | 5823459 HonkyShogun
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Why couldn't Helen Keller drive?

 

 

 

Because she was a woman.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:48 | 5823478 knukles
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Anyone but me note that Bruce Jenner had a clean driving record before he bacame a woman?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:52 | 5823519 knukles
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If we manage to convince the Chinese that Jihadists' testicles are aphrodisiacs, within ten years they'll have disappeared...

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:21 | 5824425 logicalman
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They'll keep a few for breeding purposes.

Need a few still walking around.

You never know when you are going to need a little 'False Flag' kind of thingy, to help steer the sheople into the right pens.

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:52 | 5824820 conscious being
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Knukles, a true man of the world. Your knowledge covers all bases. The poor tookay around here have all disappeared for the rumored effect on Chinese errections.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:44 | 5823451 Icelandicsaga.....
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_rgtKzKrPw   BEST analysis on Ukraine I have seen so far .. John Browne . .Former adviser on all things Russia to Thatcher .. but he is neither pro Putin or up NATO ass .. he just says it the way it IS. Not one to panic .. he is worried.. so far many have thought Ukraine was a distraction .. perhaps it is .. but it is most likely to get ugly faster... they have turned from ISIS  a much eaiser target to the Russians.. someone must think they can keep this a proxy war .. or just figured out . its REAL .. and going to get even more REAL .. fast.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:48 | 5823479 Arrowflinger
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It is interesting that Browne asserted that the Russians have deployed troops in Ukraine, when most of what I have read in the alternative media says Putin has studiously refrained from sending troops into Ukraine.

 

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:55 | 5823543 knukles
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Note that same said Mr Browne is an arch neo-con and past head of BP a la Gulf of Mexico

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:07 | 5823596 smacker
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Which is slightly odd given that he left BP when it was revealed that he lives with his male partner.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:24 | 5823671 cornfritter
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damn internet!  hopefully unemployed chemists can turn a dime anyway ...

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:19 | 5823651 rsnoble
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Ok video, would've prefered the entire thing to stay on the Ukraine topic.  Only thing I didn't like was the size of Brown's head compared to his body.  He almost looks like a soutpark figure or something lol.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:47 | 5823794 TheFourthStooge-ing
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"Russians are bad... m'kay?"

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:22 | 5823666 tired1
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Brown gets his info from MSM, that's what he said.

Sad, this is example of an informed former policy maker. Whatever, most people already know all they know and wont change. Changing a position in the face of new info is blow to one's ego, cant let that happen.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:50 | 5823497 rsnoble
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Even Mr. Rational Mish is saying this could evolve into war with Russia.  That's scary.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:44 | 5823453 Icelandicsaga.....
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_rgtKzKrPw   BEST analysis on Ukraine I have seen so far .. John Browne . .Former adviser on all things Russia to Thatcher .. but he is neither pro Putin or up NATO ass .. he just says it the way it IS. Not one to panic .. he is worried.. so far many have thought Ukraine was a distraction .. perhaps it is .. but it is most likely to get ugly faster... they have turned from ISIS  a much eaiser target to the Russians.. someone must think they can keep this a proxy war .. or just figured out . its REAL .. and going to get even more REAL .. fast.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:47 | 5823460 kurzdump
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The good guys are fighting the bad guys! What a brilliant idea!

Who are the good guys?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:51 | 5823486 e_goldstein
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Anyone who is not British.

Banksters excluded, of course.

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:05 | 5823549 Jorgen
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"Anyone who is not British."

Anyone who is not English. Leave the good Scots and Welsh alone :)

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:51 | 5824567 medium giraffe
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There once was a republic in this forsaken land.  Its unlawful loss goes unmourned.  Tis curious, no?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:46 | 5823464 Miketheterrible
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Many more brits died in 1812 crimea war. I guess Cameron wants to send more to their deaths.

 

But they sure mame it obvious who started this mess. Now sending people to try to clean up?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:12 | 5823617 Bankster Kibble
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Well this IS an echo of the Crimean war.  I suppose time for another Charge of the Light Brigade?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:24 | 5824444 logicalman
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Make sure the Cameron is at the front and the rest of parliament to back him up.

A pack of school kids with slingshots could take that lot!

 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:15 | 5823636 ZerOhead
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1853-1856 but close enough...

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 17:59 | 5824098 Miketheterrible
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You are correct, I had a brainfart.  Was thinking of Canadian war against USA.

 

As well, Ukraine moving artillery towards battlefield: https://twitter.com/ArmedResearch/status/570243566506786817

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:19 | 5823650 Winston Churchill
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1862

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:47 | 5823468 rsnoble
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Sounds like Obama isn't going to be the only one with a 'special' bomb with their names painted on the side.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:56 | 5823469 knukles
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Meanwhile, the Greeks have agreed to lease their entire country to the Rooskie in perpetuity in exchange for free vodka and all the military basing rights the Rooskies desire, including faciltities surronding each base to be staffed with hairy Greek women to make the Roosian military personnel feel at home.  One Sergrent Major was quoted as saying, "Nothingk lik a vwarm stiky vooman on a colt night to make a man feel lik a man, Yo, Bitchez!"

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:48 | 5823474 Soul Glow
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I would begin to discuss how long Britain has hated Russia but Britain hates everyone and yerns for the days of the Empire.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:44 | 5823776 commoncourtesy
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Please don't confuse Britain with the City of London which is a part of the Empire of the City, an Offshore Nation State, the same as Washington DC and the Vatican. 

The Trinity of the Global Empire does not encompass Britain. These sovereign, corporate entities have their own laws, their own flags, their own Police and their own identities.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_globalelite177.htm

I am British (not European) and personally admire Putin for having far more goldilocks than Camoron. I also like Russia as do many Brits..

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 20:31 | 5824754 HowdyDoody
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Churchill's Operation Unthinkable - use UK/US troops and Nazis to attack the Soviet Union in July 1945. Sensible minds declared the plan 'hazardous' and it wasn't implemented. Now we have US/UK leaders, whose intellectual capacity would embarrass an amoeba, thinking it is a bright idea. It was 'hazardous' before the Soviets had nukes. Now Russia has nukes and some pretty wicked conventional military hardware so my inexpert opinion is this is 'fsckin insane'.

I hope those brave British advisors have got some decent thermal underwear. It can get pretty cold in the part of the world in winter when there is no gas. I presume the Ukes told the Brits they have no money to prepay for the next gas bill.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:48 | 5823476 Itchy and Scratchy
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Insane 'Exceptional' Imperialism winning the 'Hearts & Minds!' I'd say we just moved up to Defcon 2!   

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:48 | 5823482 Badself
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You guys shouldn't be joking about this development.  We need to leave the Russians alone and stay out of their backyard or they are going to kick some butt.  Ukraine belongs to the Russians.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:53 | 5823522 Dr. Engali
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Getting pissed off does nothing but waste energy and elevate the blood pressure. Humor is the only option available as there is little else we can do to change the situation.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:57 | 5823552 knukles
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I just shit my pants laughing so hard.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:49 | 5823485 HamRove
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Could you imagine how pissed off you'd be if you were commanding a bunch of nazi mercs who desperately needed weapons, but instead were sent "Advisors"?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 17:06 | 5823893 BlussMann
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One would probably be even more pissed if commanding a bunch of  Zio/Mossad Mercs and got "advisors" instead of Motzo balls.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:49 | 5823488 cheech_wizard
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“I think what we should be putting in to place is a sense that if there is another Debaltseve [a Ukrainian town seized by pro-Russia forces this month] then that will trigger a round of sanctions that will be materially different to what we have seen so far,” he said.

Ahh, the money shot, someone needs to remind Cameron who launched the last offensive and this is generally what happens when you lose. You lose ground.

Do they still have gibbets in England?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:26 | 5823684 commoncourtesy
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Maid Marion said ... I will not do it for the king, but I will do it for you!

Cameron says ... I do not do it for England or the UK, but I do it for the Empire of the City (my boss), that is the City of London, Washington DC and especially ... the Vaticanus!

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_globalelite177.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_merovingios.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican144.htm

 David Camoron... You do not do it, whilst thinking of England! 

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:26 | 5824449 logicalman
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They are quick and easy to construct!

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:50 | 5823493 kianator
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Newsflash from Russian TV:  British and NATO troops training Ukrainian fascists and neo-Nazi's to kill innocent civilians in Donbas!

 

Yeah right!  State controlled media is doing a good job with distracting the attention of the Russian people from the recessionary economy, low oil prices, corruption, and expanding police state!

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 16:10 | 5823610 Bankster Kibble
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"State controlled media is doing a good job with distracting the attention of the Russian American people from the recessionary economy, low oil prices, corruption, and expanding police state!"

 

There, fixed it for ya.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:50 | 5823495 disabledvet
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"The Great Game."

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:50 | 5823498 Smiley
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And now we just need one mortar shell to 'accidentally' land in a group of them.

Looks like NATO is hell bent on getting its stupid little war.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 19:31 | 5824466 logicalman
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Couldn't they just have a Signals Intelligence gathering ship supposedly attacked by torpedo boats, or something?

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:51 | 5823504 HenryHall
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The Novorossiyans will not hestitate to kill British, unlike ukies.

No POW (Prisoner of War) status, for them. Instead summary execution.

Tue, 02/24/2015 - 15:53 | 5823529 uistbhoy
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coming from a country that continues to "dismember" Ireland - they can fuck right off

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