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Caught On Tape: Florida Parents Treated Like Children For Questioning School Curriculum
Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
David Bolduc, a resident of Naples, Florida recently sent us a note highlighting a video in which he, and several other concerned parents, were reprimanded and treated like little children in a School Board Workshop as a result of them expressing concerns about school curriculum.
In order to give you some background on the issue, see the Letter to the Editor he wrote to the Naples Daily News on 1/28 to say what he was prevented from saying at the 1/20 School Board Workshop. Letter reprinted below:
Patton the cause
The controversy behind the recent parents’ review of school textbooks lays squarely at the feet of Superintendent Kamela Patton.
Specifically, Collier County School Board Policy 2240 reads, “Furthermore, the Superintendent shall prepare administrative procedures detailing the manner in which students and parents will be adequately informed, each year, regarding their right to inspect instructional materials, and the procedure for completing such an inspection.”
By failing to prepare procedures to implement Board Policy 2240, Patton created the perception the textbook review was a nighttime Watergate-style break-in masterminded by conservative political operative and School Board member G. Gordon Lichter.
I examined seventh-grade “Civics in Practice” and it contained numerous factual inaccuracies. For example, on Page 100 it states, “The Constitution can be changed in two ways; formally by Amendment, and informally by Government.” This notion of dictatorship is enhanced by eighth-grade textbook “United States History,” which states on Page 185, “The President issues Executive Orders. These commands have the power of law.”
While some called us book-burning Nazis, Page 274 of “Civics in Practice” states, “Citizens must be alert to propaganda” and glittering generalities is a “type of propaganda which often uses words such as freedom and patriotism.” This world government indoctrination is augmented on Page 425, where a geographical map of North America eliminates the United States, and places our great nation in nine new “cultural nations.”
For pointing this out, one public speaker at the School Board textbook workshop called us “narrow-minded, racist Bible-thumpers.”
Thank you, Superintendent Patton.
David has assured me that there is absolutely zero racist or religious angle to any of his concerns, and that this is being shamelessly injected into the argument due to an inability to debate the actual concerns.
Without further ado, take a look at how contemptuously and dismissively these parents’ concerns are dealt with at the Collier Country School Board Workshop...
*As a disclaimer, we are not well versed in the intricacies of this debate, nor have we personally reviewed Collier County school materials. We welcome and encourage open debate in the comment section.
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That is simply not true. Find me a source?
There’ve always been a multitude of positions on the left – and dating back much longer than 100 years (I know that is a long time in ‘the American “intellectual” tradition’). Libertarian Socialism, Anarchist Socialism, State Socialism, Democratic Socialism, Reformist Socialism, Revolutionary Socialism, Christian Socialism etc. etc. They all share a focus on common property rights but differ in their position towards the role of the state.
Communism is a distinct ideology that focus on the need for a revolutionary avant-garde, that has the goal to seize the capitalist state. When the state is seized its power should be used to transform the society towards socialism (including 'reeducating the masses'). That – of course – never happens. Instead we see examples like USSR with state capitalism (not common property, but state property) and that has nothing to do with socialism.
During the Spanish Civil War – and in USSR – the Communists were seen as the enemy by libertarian socialists and anarchists alike. Stalin murdered hundred of thousands of left-wing intellectuals (including the most known Trotsky). In the Spanish Civil War the anarchists and socialists fought the communists just as hard as the fascist.
And this i not a pure academic debate. TPTB spends billions miseducating us – especially when it comes to ideologies that challenge the status quo.
I’m NOT A COMMUNIST. I’m a libertarian socialist/anarchist. But we need to call the shit that’s going on by the right names.
“If names be not correct, language is not in accordance with the truth of things”
-Confucius
Paraphrased as a chinese proverb stating "The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper name."
I agree. So lets call US what it is: A proto-fascist state servicing a tiny cleptocratic ‘elite’ (0,01%). That seems like the right terms for me. But you think communism fits better – how/why?
You don't know what the fuck you are, but I do. You are the product of "modern public higher education", and it shows.
No sir. You are. I'm educated in Denmark (Europe, that is). I've studied in four different countries - one in the so called 'third world'. It's you americans who have destroyed language. To many decades of propaganda.
Use five minutes on this link and you'll know why we can't communicate (TPTB wins).
http://youtu.be/rxYth0ktPsY
Government is not equal socialism.
You can have (as in US) fascist governments. Governments serving the interests of their corporate masters. That is NOT socialism. The propaganda they spew includes the demonization of socialism. It’s been demonized since the McCarthy-area and until know.
I’ve yet only meet few (and all university students studying abroad) US citizens who actually knows what socialism is, and I’ve studied in private US universities.
The propaganda has clearly worked.
Yes it is, it's called National Socialism. Otherwise known as NAZI-ism/Fascism.
So you refer to the masters of propaganda, when you ‘try’ to get a grasp of ideologies? National Socialism was a clever name for a political party with no socialist ambitions whatsoever. They did however know, that the real socialism was gaining traction in 30’s Europe, and to gain popular support they needed to tap into the (at that time) success of the labor unions. Many parts of Germany was briefly taken over by syndicalists and socialists popular movements. The real socialist and the Nazis fought to the death in the streets.
The Nazis of Germany was a pure fascist party. Fascism and socialism are opposite.
You can call stuff whatever you want, but TPTB enjoys when ignorance is spread. And in that regard you’re a tool.
PS. If your ‘logic’ is correct then all governments should be called Nazi and not socialist.
"Fascism and Socialism are opposite."
Your ignorant bullshit won't get you far here at Zerohedge. They aren't "opposite", they are very closely related. One is National Socialism, the other is International Socialism.
National Socialism was killed in 1945. Thanks to the ascendancy of international corporations, international organizations like the UN, the European Community, NATO, etc., all socialists are International Socialists today.
If you represent the 'upper echelon' of ZH I've no aspiration "to get far".
You mention two different forms of fascism. Names are not equal substance.
http://www.integralworld.net/images/Dimensions_of_ideology2.jpg
We have the same fear in Texas. New Jersey, where teenagers can get tickets for trying to make extra money shoveling snow.
North Florida, where the culture is Southern, is a great place to live. I came here from NY. South Florida, where everyone's a Yankee, is a steaming pool of lizard shit. FUcking Yankee Wankers have to screw up everything they touch. Abolish them, I say.
It is proof of what incest can do to a community (Massachusetts I might add).
Readings from John Taylor Gatto's "The Underground History of American Education", by "The School Sucks Podcast"
John Taylor Gatto: I Quit... I Think
John Taylor Gatto: The New Dumbness
Absolute MUST watch videos! I love the video vignettes that go with the readings! They are SPOT ON!
John Gatto is my hero!!!
The Scientific Management of Children - John Taylor Gattohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVt2J-DOK8c
Does anyone here actually remember anything they read in school?
1st ten pages of "Catcher in the Rye"...I refused to read any further.
Yes!
See Jane dick.
See Jane's dick spot.
See Jane puff dick.
Oh, pardon me. That's the new primers.
Change Jane to Jack.
Now it will be up to date.
Alas Babylon
Farenheit 451
1984
Brave New world
Catch 22
Catcher in the Rye
To Kill a Mockingbird
Lord of the Flies
Of Mice and Men
The Crucible
The Pearl
A bunch of Greek and Roman mythology and a smattering of Shakespear.
A little heavy on the classics.
The answer is simple and most effective: PULL YOUR CHILDREN OUT OF GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS, AND HOME SCHOOL THEM. ENCOURAGE OTHERS YOU KNOW TO DO THE SAME. I understand many are dual workers {Government's intention} and schooling your children at home isn't possible. But I guarantee you that someone in your neighborhood, or close by homeschools, and would take on your children for a reasonable fee. Anyone still sending their children to gubmint schools is guilty of child neglect, and reckless endangerment. Not only will your children be better educated, but they will be safer too. Gubmint schools are both warzones and cesspools. Enough parents do this, and enrollments will drop at the indoctrination camps, resulting in lay offs of these little Commissars.
That's what 75% of my friends with kids do. The envioment in school is so bad morally, socially, and so forth.
Liberalism is a mental disorder. So many people running the public schools are ultra-liberals.
As someone down below pointed out.
IT AIN'T the school boards. THEY didn't design the curriculum, or print the books.
They are just like the cops upholding the law, They didn't write the law.
The School boards are just the "DMV"* level administration device for The Plan (with the same caliber employees).
Somewhere behind it all is The Rockefeller Foundation (and others like it)
(*DMV - Dept. Motor Vehicles)
DMV - Dumb, Moronic Vegetables.
This multi-cultural progressive nazi totalitarianism will continue until large groups of civilized people become very un-civilized.
Politcally correct scumbags with no soul
After reading Wizard of Oz, I specifically remember my English teacher teaching us that L Frank Baum was trying to convey a much more important message, one of sound money, one of industrial giants crushing the little guy...MY English teacher was a fucking rockstar as far as I was concerned, critical thought was rewarded.... oh, wait... that's right, I forgot... I went to PRIVATE school...where the government has yet to infect young minds with utter shit curriculum and propaganda...
Yes, public schools are fucked. But for parents that have to work there is no other option. It's basically day care. The price you pay is your child gets indoctrinated.
How are people supposed to home school their child when they have to go earn a paycheck to pay rent and put food on the table?
"there is no other option" BULLSHIT! If a parent CARES ENOUGH, their is always an option. get off of your ass, and find an alternative, they are out there. Do you want your 15 yr old daughter coming home with a "belly" courtesy of d'Jwan? Or a call at your place of work from the school saying your son has been sent to the hospital ER because he was involved in a "misunderstanding" with five other students? Or maybe one will come home acting weird, because some school counselor has put it in their head that it is cool to be "gay questioning". This is the kind of shit that happens to children whose parents HAVE NO OTHER OPTION. Get off your ass and take some responsibility for your family, and stop leaving it up to the evil "educators" to raise your children. One day they will hate you for what you didn't do. BOTHER TO TAKE THE TIME.
You might consider moving to a rural area and live on less of an income
Madonna was just on stage dancing and grinding with dozens of shirtless goat devils. That spectacle should provide sufficiant distraction to keep the goyim cattle from discussing school curriculum.
Next time there's a board meeting the parents should bring a black woman who is concerned about her kids curriculum. When this bitch tells her to talk about issues not people, just stand back and let her go black as an ex gf used to say and watch that bitch cowar in fear because any criticism would be labeled raycisss!
I would meet that bitch outside with all of the other parents and their kids and made sure those kids knew who was screwing them over and disgrace that cunt every fucking day until she capitulates.
As Sam kinison said, "I don't agree with hitting women. I UNDERSTAND IT! I know what turns Mr. Hand into Mr. Fist."
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It’s nothing to laugh about, trust me.
I’ve fought teachers and administrators and they know how to stonewall you.
Those that control the language, control the argument.
It’s going to get worse.
This is the beginning of the tyranny of the…
filthy, leftist, politically correct, socialist, communist, maoist, stalinist, marxist-leninist, social engineering, collectivist, outcome equalizing, wealth redistributing, environmentally zealous, disingenuously self-interested, self righteous, hypocritical, totalitarian, elitest, sneering, disdainful, inclusive-&-tolerance-demanding-but-never-reciprocating, patronizing, teacher/administrative, granola-eating, birkenstock-wearing, yoga-practicing, gluten-free, tax-and-spend, nanny statist, know everything, know betterer, insufferably pretentious, liberal-progressives.
Get.
Yer.
Guns.
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V-V
PS. They will NEVER let video out like this again.
You can always smell shitrats, when they want to video you, but won’t let you video them.
Beware of something called the Delphi Technique, too. Look it up.
i'm really sort of sick of Americans being so ill informed of what communism is. I get it - you hate statism and centralized control - so do I, but I believe in syndicalism. Imagine, for a moment, when we shake off the shackles of central government and are able to rule ourselves in autonomous units. I would like my unit to have shared principles and values, as well as a group work ethic. This unit could be my family or a grouping of families. Obviously, I have no desire to push this on anyone else, but if some of the other groups start to conglomerate and oligopolize or monopolize the market, we communists will fight them. Teacher and public schools don't know shit about communism - this is just "liberal" shit, and not in the classic liberal sense - in the neo liberal nanny-state "help" everyone because they don't know better, don't let them sink or swim on their own, state. I know comments like this don't ring with most people becuase they think Obama is a commie and the dems are commies. They're about as communist as state-run centralized capitalism of the USSR in its last years. Some of us communists are people who want to overrun the elite with you - and instead of simply referring to the great founding fathers of the US as our inspiration, we have many more years of recent struggle against elite and central powers, so think about it and give us a break before labeling all commies as Obama. I don't even vote because I know those parties are a joke.
Communism as it is understood now is the Goyim working, and the Zionists telling them what to work on.
Marx was a Zionist. Marxism is a Zionist progpaganda attempt.
communism begins and ends with 2 problems:
-from each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
and
-who decides for whom
absolutely bottomless pits, constituting attractive, perfectly corrupting lies.
Leftist? Wealth-distributive? Collectivist?
No. Fascist, yes. USA is a textbook (not your textbooks apparently) example of fascism. The merging of state and corporate power. All politics in US is serving the interest of the 0,01 % and their servants (the Government fitting in this category). That has nothing to do with ‘leftist’, ‘communist’, ‘socialist’ or ‘collectivist’ – it’s (as pure as it gets) fascism.
Fuck man you just contradicted yourself in the same article.
How do you get away with that mentally?
I did not.
But I can understand it's a waste of time replying to you. Since you can't understand simple arguments - engange in an actual debate.
our schools have always been a joke
im in my mid 20s and remember thinking alot of the stuff i was being taught was communist BS
they're just getting more aggressive with the dumbing down of society since they know most Americans are too stupid to realize or even care in the first place.
This type of thing furth destroys the family unit since schools these days are pretty much run like zoos. If you live in a middle class or poorer area your kds are at risk of getting injured at school bcause so many kid are violent or come from fucked up families.The curriculum is a joke and useless...
Think about how many teachers get caught sleeping with their students....these teachers aren't like the ones from the 60s and 70s..these people are the bottom of the barrel as far as where they graduated in college.
Complete fucking losers
This whole system is fucked and in 10 years these people will be full on statists unless things change for the better..which isnt likely happening unfortunately.
Im going to start seriously considering leaving this country for good and try to strike out somewhere else. This type of shit is WORSE than a terror attack in some ways, well it IS a terror attack.
I was fortunate to have one great P.E. teacher in middle skool. Man was 55 when I came through - he could do perfect pull-ups nonstop and was one of the best kids track coaches ever. I nearly broke 5 in the 8th grade training under him. He retired the year after my class passed. Back in the 70s, when they still whacked you, some kid flipped him off and he chased him down the track and whacked him into shape with a paddle.
You are right about the modern teachers. The last wave of the old timers has already stepped out. They all left mid 2000s.
Dude should have had you on a squat rack. Bet that 5 min mile came in useful when you were running from the football players, lol
Fucking losers??? If that is the case, why are today's African-American students scoring higher in math on the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP) than white kids did 20 years ago. That's right fool, today's black kids on average are better at math than your cohort.
If you are going to try and debate the quality and worth of a public education, here are the measuring sticks you should be using:
PIRLS
TIMSS
PISA
NAEP
Anything else is pure bullshit.
That's right. Step 1, dumb down the test. Step 2, teach the test. Success!
What changed? the intelligence of the kids, or the standards?
Your ignorance is your burden to bear, not mine.
well, buying/selling drugs was my first practical exposure to the metric system. so they have that going for them...
And everyone does better on the SATs. There is actually a conversion if you took it pre 1996. 1440=1520 now.
And just 17% make it to 18 yo with both their biological parents. Progtard agenda succeeded!
http://www.csg.org/pubs/capitolideas/enews/issue6_3.aspx
Forward!
I always wondered what happened to Herk Tarlek's wife.
Who cares, the world will be long gone before any of these juvenile delinquents grow up to be leaches on society....
Both my girls are in private school. We work really hard to keep them there.: it is not easy! We do have family support.
The work my 7th grader is doing is much harder than most seniors in HS., but we look at it as an investment, because the one thing they can't take from you is your education and intelligence.
SH
What about your morals and principles?
God bless your children but no, the young lady in 7th grade is not doing "harder" work than HS seniors. Maybe she has more busy work, but the content and curriculum is much more complicated at the higher level.
"...in a hundred years, we’ve gone from teaching Latin and Greek in high school to teaching remedial English in college."
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/education-2/middle-school-reading-lis...
Who educates you is not as important as learning critical analysis. When the kids came home from school, I said, 'what did you learn today'? Sometimes it was okay and factual; othertimes not so much. It was important that i show them the truth, but at the same time to spit back whatever was fed them for testing purposes. At a certain point though, they had enough ammunition to challenge what they were being taught. Maybe the curriculum didn't change, but a lot of teachers had their wakeup call by doing that.
"have family support" - so your dad pays the tuition and you drop them off? does your mom still breastfeed you too?
Teachers: We are the Teachers, resistance is futile, you will be assimilated.
I will resist you with my last ounce of strength.My culture is based on freedom and self-determination.
Teachers: Freedom is irrelevant. Self-determination is irrelevant. You must comply.
The line must be drawn here
Man I love ZH but Tyler, when you post these low IQ puff pieces, the village idiots show up in droves.
Any parent who is NOT HOMESCHOOLING THEIR CHILD is an accessory to a crime. NO EXCUSES, PERIOD!
Sorry, I don't buy that for one minute. We spend thousands every year sending our three to a private Christian school. Now before anyone down votes me for either being a professed Christian or sending kids to a Chrisitian school, keep in mind that these two schools give the parents MUCH more control over what material is allowed to be taught, and are even expected to be involved in such. I can't tell you how many times I have heard some local college profs tell me, or have heard second hand how much better prepared the HS age kids are as a freshman as compared to the public school kids, as a general rule.....this does not mean all the public school kids are drooling idiots. You can even tell this on people as adults when you live in a smaller community with both schools. Adults that have gone thru the private schools tend to be better versed in many areas, are more fluent public speakers and just get along better with others as a general rule. I see it every day.
To be sure, there are some things that more closely mirror what the public schools teach but that is where the teacher has the right and obligation to step in and inform the kids about what really is the truth, and those teachers are held to account very closely by us as parents. I have NOTHING against home schooling and have some friends that do homeschool.
No, I was not held at gunpoint to send our kids there and yes it's one heck of a bit of money each year, but if I have been given the responsibility of raising these young and impressionable minds and choose not to home school then they deserve something better than the slop that passes for public education. We have excellent public schools here in my area, but at the end of the day they are still public school. They are light years better than what you would find in many other locales but they are still public schools.
I am not one of those that will stand on a soap box preaching the virtues of Xtian school ONLY, but don't for one minute think that because I don't home school that makes me any more of a serf or accessory to a crime. You've missed the mark with that comment.
fuck you ...pay my bills then.
"Brother John, saw visions of God, so they put him in chains for acting too odd, when the crowds shouted 'off with his head', the Priest said 'have mercy, we'll burn him instead'.....trapped!"
"Trapped", Todd Rungren
Teachers Unions are sitting on hundreds of billions of retirement funds - protected as much as banks in 2008 if you remember - because all that cash is sacred to Dem politicians who have shovelled money by the trillions of dollars back into the Public Fools System in order to deeducate children to the point of never wanting to be outside the nurture of government - for.the rest of.their sad lives. China spends about $500 per child per year and we.can easily spend $15000 per year. Good teachers should have risen up years ago and shouted bloody murder because of the failng system.
Right, they are sitting on those billions because it's their fucking money. Contrary to what your radio has told you, almost all public employees, teachers in particular, will invest $100,000- $130,000 per person into that public pension system.
The other stupid thing you said was the bullshit about a failing system. The United States has one of the best public school systems in the world. Some states like Massachusetts, North Carolina and Florida have their public schools measuring equal to or better than any other system in the world, including those Asian countries who do things to their children we would deem abusive. Now, I bet you radio didn't tell you any of that. I know it didn't tell you that according to PIRLS, US. students are in the top 5 in a Reading or TIMSS has our students scoring equal with Finnish students in Math.
https://nces.ed.gov/TIMSS/table11_2.asp
http://nces.ed.gov/surveys/pirls/pirls2011.asp
Over the decades, they have dumbed-down some of those aptitude tests.
Most posters here hate teachers and think that are all millionaires.
dont take credit for my high standardized test scores. i got those scores despite have retards for teachers, not because of them.
Accounting 101:
Your public education is showing.
US ranks #15 in reading, behind even Estonia andd tied with Poland.
US ranks #26 in science, below the OECD average.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_student_performance
Are you a government accountant?
The schools mark to fantasy,,, like the banks.
I gave you the fucking links asshat. Are you fucking serious? Wikipedia???
PIRLS
TIMMS
PISA
NAEP (US only)
That's it dumbass.
Acctg101,
My, you're such a tough guy, resorting to naughty words when facts don't exist to support your position.
You're links were to pure government funded propaganda, professional edjookaters self-promoting, patting their own backs, and similar to what the BLS serves up.
In case you're not familiar with the concept of an encyclopedia, it merely collects and makes available data from other sources, in this case one of your approved measuring sticks....
The Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA) is a worldwide study by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) in member and non-member nations of 15-year-old school pupils' scholastic performance on mathematics, science, and reading. It was first performed in 2000 and then repeated every three years. It is done with a view to improving education policies and outcomes.
470,000 15-year-old students representing 65 nations and territories participated in PISA 2009. An additional 50,000 students representing nine nations were tested in 2010.
Your public edjookashun is showing again. Aside from being a goobermint accountant I'll venture you're an accountant for a publick skool bored.
Sad, small-minded taxpayer funded bean counter. You have my sympathy, you pathetic brainwashed drone.
So, they'll invest 130k and get back 40k for thirty years? That is a great fucking investment. How do I get that deal?
What's that? My tax dollars are funding the difference?
Become a teacher, fireman or policeman. It's hard work, but worthwhile. You will make a difference.
"Right, they are sitting on those billions because it's their fucking money."
Wrong. It's not "their" money, it's taxpayer money that they redirected into a retirement fund.
Bullshit! It's their money because they earned it. Don't pull the chicken came before the egg nonsense out of your ass. If you want to play that stupid ass game, perhaps those teachers are supporting your worthless ass since they take their salaries and buy whatever shit product you produce. Maybe you are the taker.
I have a piece of paper that states I have put well over 200,000 (not including the employers part) into Social Security yet many say I'm a leach if I draw it. Consider the paltry sum I get for my 200,000 compared to many of the benefits received by schools and other government entities,,, AND I as a property owner are paying for BOTH.
AND I have to work the FULL year AND do not get MLK day off AND do not get paid WORKDAYS where I don't have to work.
AND we all know how great government entities are at 'modifying' numbers,,, the BLS for example.
AND when I go to the store, hand one of your works $10.55 for a $5.55 cent purchase I get this look that says "What the hell are you doing moron?"
AND the Asians can do what the Asians want. You however don't have the right to rationalize out your abuse of children using a different country's different moral standard... What happened to your precious 'D i v e r s i t y' crap?????
Most of your post was incomprehensible, but I was able to gather that you are full of shit. Walk your lazy ass over to your local public school and volunteer. You will piss yourself within the first hour, not because the children are misbehaving, but because you wouldn't be able to handle educating and helping to raise other people's children.
Yes, the Asians can do whatever the hell they like and our students in our public schools do just as well as theirs.
Public schools are baby sitters.
She's from that bastion of progressivism, Buffalo.
FIRE THEM ALL.
ABANDON ALL PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
If you are paying into this system and not voicing opposition at board meetings or running for board positions, then you are assembling the bricks to the oven yourself. It is not enoughto try and be left alone. Time is short. These anti-human, anti-science, totalitarians must be stopped by force if necesszry. They ar ethugs and cowards using the monopoly of force of government to live out their psychopathic fantasies.
Society consists of two types of people -- those who want to be left alone, and those who won't leave you alone.
they don't mind preaching and teaching the agw gospel according to albert (gore) though
Americans are dummies, that's for sure. Probably way too late though I hope otherwise.
They teach very important things at public schools. Like not to question 'authority'. I've had a personal run in with a school board. That is what they do. I shut them down like a 10 cent whore house too. Learn the law people, it's important.
Law vs Common Sense.... LOL.
Probably the biggest crock of CRAP ever is the Buybull . I am EX Christian , I burned my Buybull at age 28 , that was 40 years ago. Life got much better after I started using my brain.
America is chock full of Buybull thumping NON thinking retards.
What they don't get yet is that people are NOT born sinful. They push this crap into their childrens heads. Its CHILD ABUSE.
The public schools in the USA are crap but the religious schools are no better pushing their fairytales. and HOME schooling would be fine if the parents didn't push religious crap into their kids heads.
here here! same experience.. although not as long free as your 40 years. but religion really is worse than even central bankers for murder, mayhem, and destruction.
and for those suggesting homeschooling.. that was a big push by religious fundies.. and it can amnd opften is, worse than state schools.. its child abuse.
the funny thing is here.. its one set of propaganda vs another set of propaganda...
what the fuck.
you two are slow as fuck. i remember thinking in church in second grade "this is all made up bullshit". i assumed everyone thought that, but that they wanted to tell us stories to make us better people. what astonished me later is that there are actually true believers...
Hey, here is the world's smartest person whose entire worldview was formed in second grade. Let's follow him!
lol
The constitution guarantees ALL freedom of religion. Whether you agree or disagree you have no right to disparage someone's belief. It is their constitutional and natural right. Some here treat the constitution and natural rights, which the Constitution and Declaration was framed by, as a salad bar where you can pick and choose which natural right you agree with and which ones you can discard regardless of the opinions of others. Believe it or not,,, natural rights and opinions are different.
If you agree with the constitution and the freedoms it attempts to preserve you would not disparage the rights and privileges of others so easily,,, for doing so opens up 'your' rights and privileges to debate.
Respect your fellow mans belief and he will respect yours....
I'm an atheist. I plan to homeschool my children.
You are conflating issues here.
While many religious fundies ARE homeschooling, there is also a growing trend of anti-government-indoctrination that has NOTHING to do with religiouis beliefs/non-beliefs.
Parents need to take their kids out of that school and start homeschooling groups
Schools grade hence they degrade.
Still wonder why the Nazis burned school books? Heh. They got tired of their children being exposed to nation wrecking Marxist drivel and degenerate filth like "Heather Has Two Daddies".
That and since Jews are kicked out of places in the middle of the night, they teach their kids to read, do math and learn skills they can take with them in order to prevent starving to death.
So many became academics and authors. Google my name and dentists, doctors come up. But I'm Catholic, so I'll still be killed in a pogrom but can't get into Israel unless I convert.
Everyone loves heaping it on those folks, but their decisions have been self preservation in the face of unearned blame. I hope white people can do the same as we descend into this contrived new normal of a nation.
That's complete bs!
We live under a dengenerate Marxist Jewish Apartheid.
The original post was absoultey right.
What to do about is the next question and it's the one we better engage in suddenly or we will find ourselves in work camps or with single bullets in the back of the head.. Another trait of these degenerate diabolical marxist maggots!
The wife is a high school teacher in the ghetto. Came home yesterday confirming my understanding of what it means to import third world hill people. We've got TB at the school.
She grew up in an atheist household that went to Christmas mass. Government knows best democrats. Late in life Unitarians. Her mom bristles when anyone says " have a blessed day" or calls the Unitarian church a church. My wife couldn't stand me talking about history or political/economic dynamics because I contradicted her fragile world view. Then she saw it all first hand with $70k a year janitors in a school with 80% free and reduced lunch kids. Saw it in fellow teachers and the union.
So out of the blue she says, "When we have kids, I want to home school them."
That's what teaching taught her.
“When an opponent declares, "I will not come over to your side," I calmly say, "Your child belongs to us already... What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.”
- Adolf Hitler
Bingo. That's why young America believes in socialism today, and not the Constituion. It is mind boggling how fast this country abandoned its liberty.
Public schools: Blind leading the blind.
The children are blind only after years of the dumbed down drudgery the government (and private) schools are propagating.
Uh, you can change the Constitution in two ways...perhaps these stalwart defenders of same should read the fucking text once in awhile (particularly Article V) instead of parroting Rushbo.
I'm partially public educated. Please point out the INFORMAL procedure in the text which follows...
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.
Three fourth's of the states must ratify any amendment, whether PROPOSED by Congress or a Constitutional Convention. Therefore, there is only one way to change the Constitution.
Article 5 is pretty simple. Either the 2/3 of the Federalie govt or 2/3 the States can recommend amendments which both have to be ratified by 3/4 of the states. This has already been abused by the ratification of the 16th and 17th without the proper numbers of ratifying states and the 14th which was forced upon the South at the end of the unCivil War "before" they would be allowed officially back in the union with voting privileges.
The fact they allowed any structural changes to the form and make up of this government is amazing to me. IMO it could be amended to be discarded. The founders really f*cked up when they considered their progeny would be as staunch defenders of freedom as they were. They had no idea what mealy mouthed dependency seeking blathering dumbed down idiotic whores their offspring would turn out to be.
Should have stuck with the Articles.
My 2nd grader brought home a reading assignment for Presidents' Day, there were three great US Presidents named: Washington, Lincoln, and FDR.
Indoctrination.
Surprised they still allow Washington on that list.
Read through every comment and still no: "Those who can, do, those who can't, teach."
Among the few that I encounter, every year's high school grads are dumber than the previous year's grads. I do not encounter school administration but the moderator in the video is very telling.
Don't let the used price fool you. It is well worth new price, http://www.amazon.com/Johnny-Cant-Think-Robert-Whitaker/dp/0972929207
Big Pharma has new clients to drug besides disorderly "ADD" kids...
This would be comedic if it weren't so tragic. Buffoons are running things. They should be treated as such. Authority without accountability is tyranny especially over the minds of children.
This is Common Core. The Feds are running education.
Other example I've seen is numerous pages in history devoted to islam, while christianity and judaism is covered in just a few.
Soros must be thrilled.
Sending your kids to public school is child abuse!
And the Oscar for the best Quote goes to,... The last guy.
I have to agree.
I was taught 'A soft answer turns away wrath", but that's only half the story.
This moderator's delivery should be studied by the students she supposedly represents as a prime example of passive agressive behavior.
Her performance would make Kesey's Nurse Cratchet proud.
Every weekday I have to fight the multitudes of buses frittering here and there. These buses are full of propagandized idiot future voters that won't question anything. I watch these kids disembarking with cold dead stares while fumbling for their iThingy. Outright child abuse and neglect on the part of government stooges and the 'loving' parents whom send those poor bastards to that hell hole every day.
Think things are stupid now,,, wait until these dumbed down idiots get in positions of power. They'll make that School Board mediator look like a PhD. Oh, wait... she probably is a PhD.
Makes the spoof Idiocracy look like a conservative documentary.
“…But I’ll tell you what they don’t want. They DON’T want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that, that doesn’t help them. That’s against their interests. That’s right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around the kitchen table and figure out how badly they’re getting F#CKED by a system that threw them overboard 30 f#ckin’ years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want OBEDIENT WORKERS. OBEDIENT WORKERS. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passably accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime, and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it.”
George Carlin
I call public transportation "Turd Carts"
There is a reason why the founders intended voting rights to be solely in the hands of land owners.
In the movie, "The Untouchables," where Sean Connery's character has been riddled with bullets by gangsters, his dying words to Elliot Ness are, "What are yoiu going to do about it?"
I constantly see situations where I am asking the same question.
... that background music ... wasn't that Benny Hill's? ... that Public School board meeting sure looks and sounds like a Benny Hill episode ... :)
So glad to be out of Collier County/Naples, FL.
Florida is the microcosm of what is coming to a town near you.
Forever Florida has taken 10% of the land to give it to "environmentalists."
That is land taken from 1 of each 10 land owners in the State of Florida.
Check it out at http://www.whatisagenda21.net/
And the cultural enrichment process has now lead to an outbreak of leprosy there!