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In the global geopolitical chess game, does size matter?
h/t @Jason_Healey
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Yeah.....but do they have Nuland and Kerry?
"does size matter?"
that what she said
not Miffed [unless, apparently, we happen to be talking about lips].
Russia has to practice defense of A VERY LARGE AREA.
NATO has to "coordinate" multiple, logistics, linguistics, deployment and command teams for each "venture" they may take.
It is clearly a clusterfuck compared to a unified Russian model.
Good luck with that, "American sniper".
Cant wait to see when Russia is engaged on the West and the Chinese will backstab them so fast to grab back Siberia and all the resources they can gouge on.
I, too, would like to grab Siberia. Not sure why, but I would.
My enthusiasm for grabbing Siberia uninvited is dampened somewhat by the knowlege that the current owners can place one of these on my doorstep:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4R8lAjVzj0
Whatever deficiencies might exist in Russia's military, I don't think geopolitical analysis should be done thinking that all Russia can field are some (excellent) horsemen who wear funny hats.
I am sorry, but you may not see that happen if you live in US... Ha-ha-ha
Besides Russia has enough warheads to scare off the chinks.
Beat that ass Russia!!!!
"Beat that ass Russia!!!!"
Vlad's gonna beat it and "tap it".
but NATO wins the snappy name contest.
Operation NOBLE JUSTIFICATION?
Realistic operation names
BULL SHIT
CHICKEN HAWK
RE-ELECT ME
US-1 NICARAGUA-0
You forgot Operation CLUSTER FUCK...which is about all of them.
Whos got the bigger schlong?
All these RED LIGHTS flashing reminds me of when i was a kid driving around with my bro in law. A drunk had driven his truck headlong into a ditch.
I didnt believe what i was seeing, even though it was pretty fucking obvious...it took a moment to digest reality it seemed..
Morton Thiokol- dont launch below a certain degree-- o-rings may not hold.....fuck you, we launch--nasa
"pride cometh before a fall" - some smart guy
In the case of Morton-Thiokol vs. NASA, the people who took the REAL fall (the astronauts) were uninvolved in the 'decision-making process'. It SHALL BE THE SAME when the innocents are slaughtered (as it always IS).
Generals, gathered in their masses,...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYI5xhDnOxs
It's so simple, a ten-year-old understands it! LITERALLY!
ALL the KILLING, and the SLAUGHTER OF INNOCENTS; for the pride of the so-called 'leaders'.
"Suffer not the little children" - some REALLY smart guy.
Putin: Unipolar world unacceptable to Russia
Takedown China or Europe then. That will make you a super power.
It seems Obama is Bipolar all by himself: A menace to American citizens, a pussycat to America's foes.
It's not the size... it's how you use it :)
The puffery is designed to frighten you, me and the others.
When war breaks, and it will, Atom Bombs will be used right way.
of course. if your existense, life depends upon being the firstest and/or best the marquis of queensbury rules are out the window.
NATO's strength was calling ' NO FLY ZONES ' in 3rd World Countries. Fuck NATO!
by the looks of that missile pooty has a great pencil with which to sign his name with best regards.
Size doesn't matter when it comes to nuclear weapons. You're fucked regardless.
Patriot? hmmmm...hate to disagree, but guess who has the BIGGEST ONE? dont let my wife see this, she may leave me for putin.
Tsar bomba, sounds like a rock band, but alas..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2eqNB6zy9k
PE
Size does matter. Russia nukes are smaller and can be more stategically placed. China has mostly huge ones that can wipe out a city.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOFDFogc6Gk
Tinhatranch discusses....how to assess and survive.
"China has mostly huge ones that can wipe out a city."
Ugh, anything over a megaton pretty much wipes out just about any city.
Most average missile warheads are "multiple" warheads (10), and each warhead averages 10 megatons.
So, the average nuke coming either direction carries 100 megatons...and there are "thousands" of these on both sides.
Clearly, the human race is a "rational" species.
It is no longer about how many kilotons of TNT equivalent it is, but how accurately you can deliver it. Also, MIRVs.
A well-placed extremely-high altitude volley of 4 particuarly-constructed nuclear devices of small-to-meduim yield over the Continental United States can eradicate the electrical grid (the so-called 'infrastructure'). This has been widely known since the 1950's, when experiments in the South Pacific wiped out the electrical grid in Hawaii (for a time), almost 5,000 miles away.
Kilotons of low-placed weapons would have little effect (they are NOW rated in MEGATONS, by the way, son).
I suggest you bone up on Electromagnetic Pulse weaponry, as well as other types of Scalar Wave weaponry that has been and is now being deployed.
City-killing weapons were almost obsolete, before they were first deployed in Japan in 1945.
Why deploy weapons like THIS (i.e., crude atomic weaponry) that make the landmasses uninhabitable? The IDEA is to CONQOUR and INHABIT; and RULE. A bunch of moon-suited soldiers in a wasted land of radiation and spoil can't do shit (but report back to base, and take videos). Didn't the Apollo missions make any impressions on this 'idealization of total destruction' thinking?
I guess not. Mankind is doomed to repeat past mistakes. We're a bunch of STUPID fuckers, you know.
Also Russia and USA decided not to keep building bigger bombs, due the testing ramifications. I believe the russian who built the megabomb is bascially now against all nuclear weapons. It is not the tech, it is that they have choosen not to build those bombs.....but if the fuckers wanted to make us the next mars - they could easily.
That doesn't include the military exercises they are performing right here in the U.S
We exercised some folks.........
I lost six inches from my waist, and my abs are becoming SCULPTED!
My 'confidence level' has never been higher, and my government has promised to forgive my 'student loans' as well! I've learned so much about myself, and the people around me!
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it's easy to throw a party when you have money(oil), and lots of party favours, but when you don't have a euro to spare and you invite a bunch of others whom all owe each other huge sums, well don't expect a big showing.
we deployed some folks into some socks
The craziest thing about this is that most Americans either have no idea of what is going on geopolitically that will Radically change their lives, or they don't give a shit, both. The United States has been the 'Big Dog' for so long it seems that we're headed for a Sonny Liston moment that suspends disbelief.
"it seems that we're headed for a Sonny Liston moment that suspends disbelief."
It's been planned (in writing) since 1953...wake up folks.
http://blog.redefininggod.com/ (hint: its not about religion)
I just downvoted you, you, 'Majestic12'
I got my answer.
Well Britain and Canada are going to put 75 boots on the ground each in Ukraine, and dont forget about the 12 1970 warthogs to scare-em so there
Strictly, it is 'up to' 75 boots. The Brits can't afford to fully equip their troops, otherwise it would have been 76 boots.
Lol, thats exactly what I was thinking
the second my bwain (in honor of barney) saw 75 boots...I FUCKING LAUGED MY ASS OFF...seriously
Each?......get outta here
"Get back General! It's a trap; there's two of them!"
Admiral Benson vs. Crabs!
There're two of them! They always work in PAIRS!
"Hot Shots"
(fast forward to 3:00 in the video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnoPZqC6Bfs
So does Global Thermonuclear War May 2015 help or hurt Shrillary's Presidential aspirations?
Discuss
After said global thermonuclear war, what aspirations?
Unless you count the aspirations of cockroaches.
I see an unanswered 3 a.m. call in our future....as she shits her pampered extree large panties..welcome to the party Rodham. Its a mans world after all you fucking cunt.
" Its a mans world after all you fucking cunt."
Yeah, we get it, you like men. Go marry your blind buddy and move along.
Btw, I don't like, or support Hillary Clinton. But I like women, so get over it.
Happiness is never seeing Hillary in a knee length dress.
'As the 2016 presidental selection season ramps up, we turn to Brian Williams with this in-death report. Brian?'
"As you can see, the campaign trail is littered with the scattered remains of innocent people's charred bodies. The DHS is now re-routing over the dead body of a drowned child in the Patomac River, as Ms. President-elect is about to deliver her final speech before officially taking her place as the leader. We now cut to this HISTORIC event."
(50 cheering people with pre-made AFL-CIO picket signs go absolutely WILD, as she takes the podium)
"WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?" The crowd cheers, and suddenly...
(sound of canned explosion)
'Brian, are you still with us?'
Williams, wearing a flack jacket, stands up heroically. Holding his microphone like a woman holds a an erect penis right before beginning an act of fellatio, he exclaims:
"It seems as though Russian separatists in the former Eastern Ukraine just launched a Russian-made RPG assault on our press entourage. We're all right, but we may be stranded out here in the wildland desert of the D.C. area for 3 or four days. I've just been informed that Cannigula the First has relinquished his crown to the new 'First Queen', Rodham the Fugly. back to you in the studio."
When was the last Reforger? Do they still do those?
Oh Man! That was some serious old-school cold war shit.
We stopped doing those a long time ago.
The US performs live fire exercises against people who shoot back with real ammo on a global scale every day of the year, so I'm not impressed with Russians occasionally playing let's pretend in their own backyard.
But you guys go ahead with your thinking that a group of unmotivated virgin conscripts will be a match for a veteran force that has been thoroughly blooded for more than a decade.
NATO forces training for an invasion of Crimea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ6mv09iBZo
I think that the vetern force you describe might have a bit more of a problem than it has had in the past fighting low grade opponents. It is a while since an 'equals' war has been fought.
For a start it is unlikey to be able to call in air support or rely on its logistics chain.
He who fights with real motivation on his own land will generally win.
WTF are you talking about ? What conscripts ? What veteran force, and where has it been "throroughly blooded" over the last decade ? Are you high, or something ???
unmotivated?
Of all the BS in your post, this has to be the best one. Where exactly do you think this imaginary "match" would take place? Kansas?
BTW, you don't need a decade to became a veteran. All it takes is one good fight.
I respectfully disagree with you. I think the outcome hinges on a couple of things. First and foremost, as others have noted, if it goes nuclear at any time, nobody wins, except the aforementioned cockroaches. In a conventional war, I'll go with the side that has the home field advantage. If a war is in eastern or central Europe, I'll take Russia in pretty much of a cakewalk. Western Europe has pretty much shown it doesn't have the desire to take on Russia just to help out people in the Slavik nations. If the fight is in Western Europe, however, I think it's a tossup. Western Europeans won't have a choice but to fight and fighting for your homeland makes people a lot tougher. Obviously, pretty much anywhere in the Western Hemisphere would favor the US.
The other big wild card in any war would be China. Do they sit it out and scoop up the spoils in the aftermath? Or do they make a choice as to their largest trading partner or their newst "buddy" Russia?
The US military has performed live fire exercises a lot, I agree with you there. But when push comes to shove, the leadership has placed some pretty onerous rules of engagement on US troops over the past 65 years (from Korea on) that I'm not really sure they know how to actually win a war as oposed to simply fighting delaying actions.
Agree on the nukes. I watched On The Beach (the 2000 version) this past weekend. Wow... I had forgotten what a sobering movie that is.
Check out the movie "Threads"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_s8CrRN76M
"The other big wild card in any war would be China."
Germany's probably a wild card also.
Germany will continue to be a wild card, until you start seeing videos of Deutsche Jungen practicing tractor driving in formation, and maintaining their shovels.
Your second paragraph reminds, when faced with chance to fight who it was that outran the Grizun all way past Tblisi...
and that with the Georgians had big head start when learned of arriving Vostok and Zapad battalions...
http://www.alternet.org/story/112457/that_was_no_small_war_in_georgia_--_it_was_the_beginning_of_the_end_of_the_american_empire/
The Eastern Ukrainian rebels (with no prior combat experience) seem to be doing fine with 30 year old armaments.
And the 2008 war in South Ossettia against a Georgian invasion was over within two hours after the first Russian air attack and the first Russian paratroopers landed. Russia penetrated deep into Georgia the next day against Georgian regulars with American weapons and U.S. and Izzy mercs.
The Russians are hardly pretending.
You don't know what you are talking about.
It is easy when your big brother is giving you all the goodies in the eastern ukraine....
No shit Russia wiped out the floor with the Georgians, are you really using that as a good example of the russian military intellect?
All you guys that hate the western world so much, please give up your passports and go to Russia and prepare for the incomming invaision of your choosen leader Vlad.
There is going to be no war with Russia, as much as Russia would love one, to detract from all their domestic problems. Vlad is sociopath, who makes his citizens eat like the medival age, while he lives the good life. But blames everything on the West.
Ignorant post
Georgians forces greatly larger over 10-1 but Ossetians held
Russia first assaults were very outnumbered 5-1 or more but still overran many Grizuns...
Georgia possessed more updated T72 armor and millions $ of latest US equipment..
Georgia had deep armory while Russia had what they carry.
Much of Russia side armor was very old, even obsolete
Also US advisors, trainers and there were mercs from several countries...
Some months later by chance I had conversation with one who trained Georgians.
He was fair, honest about, admitted shocked ...voice lowered..
Could not explain what he had witnessed.
Kiev forces were far better armed first months.
Ukriane Seperatists are still using WW2 anti-tank rifles and other their Grandfathers put away in storage.
but more equal now from vast capture and private contributions.
Kiev half real military changed sides, went home, left for Russia and other, including much best Officers/leadership.
Many older guys ex-military and other services, They are Afgantsy and other conflicts....very experienced
All men were conscripted under Soviet for a term minimum.
Later, ratio change as more young men joined.
"a veteran force that has been thoroughly blooded (sic) for more than a decade"
By a bunch of nomads with small arms who do not have a navy, air force, high-tech equipment, or shock and awe weapons, not to mention, er... full-spectrum capabilities.
I suggest you re-think your argument, because it is really Tarabel...
I gues this one was even 10 times bigger than the Russian exercise:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm0U7I2aytA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t-pHszGYW0
It's not just size, is from when they learn things ....:
http://englishrussia.com/2015/02/24/preschool-kids-weapons-education/#mo...
hehe.
Russian School fast assembly/disassembly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrxjYfl05ek
Damn! I gotta go find a Russian woman. My last one was Dutch, and apparently wasn't much.
Siberian Ladies are best. They will take care of you.
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I hope Putin tears the US a new butthole.
Here come the Poo-tin Fanboiz!
Pfft, you ain't seen nuttin yet - Prominent Tent Pole is green Mr Cameron.
Throughout history Russia has driven out and destroyed precisely 100% of the many invading armies that chose to violate their borders. Maybe someone should let the war-maniac Obama know about this.
Probably what Obama is relying on to hasten destruction of the US.
Genghis Khan conquered Russia. FYI.
Granted, that was 700 years ago, so I see your point.
Not all of it!!!
Correct
And what became of the Mongol Empire?
The slow grind of non-stop losses incurred keeping order in Russia tore them apart.
Tell who the fuck is going to attack Russia's borders? Nobody is, its all clickbait bullshit. Nobody gives a flying fuck on the border of eastern ukraine in the west. If now Vlad, goes west past Kiev then all hell breaks loose. But he doesn't have the money to engage in a prolonged battle anyways, do doubt he will practice his Judo that far.
Size matters because...
...the losing side is more likely to resort to tactical nukes.
what make you think yanks will not loose ? in every proxy war btwn usa and ussr/rf they got their ass pounded .
what make you think yanks will not loose ? in every proxy war btwn usa and ussr/rf they got their ass pounded .
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/02/82-of-lithuanian-viewers-support-ru...
Certainly the folks in Russia are being psyched for war,
China too.
This back stabbing money game is not gonna end good.
Psyched for war ? You're talking about nato probabaly because they are the aggressors here not russia .
NATO has some odd names for its military exercises. I like the one called 'Bold Aligator' the most.
Nobody in Europe has to have any illusions about what kind of rule they would face if they would be overrun by Russia. The West should have left Ukraine alone but let the Russian army stay where it is now.
double post
sorrie......
Where you get crazy ideas? Too much TV?
Russia is the only civilized acting like adult here.
well, Belarus showed postive diplomacy also
while other leaders started and throw gas on fire..
Russia: Operation Patagonia Punch
NATO: Operation Funding Scam
The next NATO drill is codenamed "The Dance Of The Transvestites"
As The Iron Sheik once said ... Russia #1, USA achhh foey !
we can wins
come on guys
putiens is punched drunk and on the rope a dopes
we just need beliefs in change
and the tri umph of the will of obarme and rabbi david camoron
No worry.
I had to refresh my memory and get the real meaning of NATO.
NATO - No Action Talk Only
Look what feeets into Russia! Russia verrry beeg! Putin penis very small.
Moody’s rating agency downgrades 12 Russian banksOperation Petro-dollar crusade.
It's not how many soldiers Russia has but the capability that they actually do have that's never been disclosed or displayed.
I'm not talking nukes but more advanced and less destructive weaponry, mass incapacitating technologies like soundwave, pulse, heat etc.
Things that would render a lot of equipment and boots on the ground pretty much ineffective.
I heard and interesting soundbyte the other day.
Apparently Russia has been practising drills in which they mobilise 40,000 troops in 48 hours - it would take NATO about 2 MONTHS to mobilise a similar sized force.
Still feel 'comfortable'?