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Full Circle: The First Anti-Government Protest In Greece Turns Ugly
Athens: first anti-gov’t protest by far-left ANTARSYA turns ugly
The first anti-government rally in Athens turned ugly as anti-authoritarian protesters started to smash the windows of a pastry shop and two jewelry shops and put two vehicles and several garbage bins on fire.
via @MakisSinodinos
via newsit.gr
According to latest information, there was no intervention by riot police although squads were standing near by.
Earlier KTG wrote:
The first anti-government protest has been launched in Athens on Thursday afternoon. A month after the left-wing/nationalist SYRIZA-Independent Greeks coalition took office, a week after the Eurogroup agreement in Brussels.
With anti-EU banners and red party flags, members of Anticapitalist Left Cooperation for the Overthrow (ANTARSYA) took to the streets in downtown Athens to protest the extension of continuation of loan agreements and Varoufakis’ Reform List with “austerity measures.”
picture via @MakisSinodinos
ANTARSYA calls for defaulting on Greece’s debt, and nationalization without compensation of major industries, banning of lay-offs, the disarmament of the police, full political and social rights for immigrants.
Although ANTARSYA is not successful in parliamentary elections it does manage to win seats in municipalities since 2010. In January elections, ANTARSYA received 39,411 votes (0.64% of the overall vote).
For tomorrow, Friday, the Greek Communist party KKE has called for a anti-government protest against austerity and the loan agreements. According to KKE, Varoufakis’ Reforms list contains “all the measures adopted by the capital, the governments and the EU against the workers.”
In Greek Parliament KKE holds 15 seats.
KKE is against the €uro, the European Union, and against everything and everyone in general. It vehemently rejected any offer form SYRIZa for coalition government. It is the party of eternal opposition.
PS I f you ask me, when Nea Dimokratia and PASOK and Potami will launch anti-government protests all I can tell you: not for the time being.
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burn baby burn.
Greece has same problem as USA, too many people with no skin in the game. Need to make everyone over 18 file a tax form and pay minimum $100, this will change attitudes. As long as half the country it net taker and half work it builds too much resentment
Krugman is excited. Very, very excited.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - Johnny F. Kennedy
Making the unemployed pay a minimum tax is a great idea Seth... but perhaps the Greek government should start here first...
"Since the early 1990s, a handful of wealthy families -- an oligarchy in all but name -- has dominated Greek politics. These elites have preserved their positions through control of the media and through old-fashioned favoritism, sharing the spoils of power with the country’s politicians"
http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/142196/pavlos-eleftheriadis/misru...
Sound familiar?
Yanis will save you.
Vote left, no right, wait....
I should move to Greece. These people know how to party :)
Snooze... there's more action after a Laker's win
You call that a riot?
It's not a riot until Riot Dog shows up.
https://www.google.com/search?q=riot+dog&biw=1003&bih=492&source=lnms&tb...
Sounds like a place to which I am all to familiar.....bush,kenedy,Kerry, and the list goes on and on. Kind of like doctors without borders.....Ass holes without limits!!!!!!
I love how Greeks think capitalism is the problem. As if th EU or any other centralized government has anything to do with the free market.
Good luck with your next government, Greece, though if logic and history are any indicators, you will not succeed with socialism.
It's worked so well for North Korea.
s/
Literally took me 15 seconds. And, you can edit the letter if you'd like.
http://www.savem855.com
What we have here is an administrative agency exercising a prohibitoy power pursuant to the GCA of 1968 and amendments. What the NRA and other idiotic gun rights groups cant get thru their dense sculls is this is an exercise of the federal taxing powers. You see, the secong amendment does Not apply to manufactureres and dealers engaged in a licenced and taxable business occupational privilege that affects the health and saftey of the public. These powers (taxing/ commerce) thru the G C A are being extended against the public itself.DIf you understood the courts, then you would understand that Iit makes NO Difference who is involved in the chain of transfer with firearms or ammo. The powers mean the same as they are applied to whomever fal, s within the scope of the law. In other words, your standing to reach the protections of the secong amendment is exactly the same as manufactureres and dealers again to which the second A has no application.
What does this mean? It means the public itself is under an absolute prohibition and Congress can tax to infinity or bann all ammo at will. The courts have already confirmed this. The problem is that NO One has attacked the legislative Act that has extended this class specific plenary prohibitory power into an area of regulaion (police powers) outside of context.
I feel sorry for you if you believe that the problem is somehow the wording of a law or a loophole or some court ruling.
The problem is that government exists. I don't give a f**k what any legal text says. No one is going to take away my liberty and my right to defend myself.
Don't they know it's small pastry business owners to blame? It's not like the goons running the country have anything to do with it all!
ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT. SMASH THE LAST VESTIGES OF YOUR PRIVATE SECTOR. AS IF IT ISN'T UNDER ENOUGH ATTACK FROM ABOVE.
IF ALL GREEKS ARE THIS STUPID (AND NOT HIRED PROTESTORS LIKE WE HAVE CERTAINLY SEEN ELSEWHERE), THEN YOU DESERVE THE HELL THAT'S COMING.
THE PROBLEM IS NOT ENTREPENEURSHIP. IT'S PSYCHOPATHS IN POWER.
Capitalism is the problem just as much as socialism. Either one is going to turn into an oligarchy every single fucking time unless and until you can come up with a realistic mechanism to prevent wealth from being leveraged into political power. I think we're fucked... Big systems equal tyranny and ever since the agricultural revolution happened small systems equal "about to be conquered". I think the answer is thousands of more years of pain until humans get smarter, because we haven't even scratched the surface of all the possibilities for badly designed big systems.
Five goofballs giving themselves the moniker ANTARSYA is Greece?
The funny thing is these goofballs are the bored sons of the comfortably wealthy from Ekali.
I like that proposal
So that all the slaves have some skin in the con?
Damn, nature sure makes it hard to think out-of-the-box.
over 18 pay tax return...
sheeit obama care makes you aquire insurance for you and your dependents.... way more than 100 bucks
I want free cupcakes. End pastry austerity now! Sheesh....anti-authoritarian protesters my ass, ZH.
Someone say free cupcakes?
Go out and burn your neighbors' cars and DEMAND FREE CUPCAKES!
Why didn't I think of that?
Which tax are you talking 'bout?
Property taxes? Obamascare taxes? Capital gains taxes? State taxes? Income taxes? Sales taxes? FATCAT taxes? Estate taxes?
Which ones do you think > 18 y.o.'s should pay moar of?
"A Record Number Of Americans Renounced Citizenship In 2014"http://www.mondaq.com/canada/x/375128/Income+Tax/A+Record+Number+Of+Amer...
Roundabout way to go after the insurance companies??
Pastry shop targetted, obviously because SYRIZA took the biscuit
$100 tax for everybody? Fuck that. Get rid of the Fed, nix the 16th Amendment and go back to much more localized economies.
Now that's my penguin.
+1
Anything BUT more tax, for fuck sakes!!!!
Fuck you and the taxes you rode in on!!
Civil servants effectively pay no tax and under this scheme they are put on the same level as the private sector. Simple solution if you are on the government pay roll or pay no tax or receive welfare or if in any way you are a net expense to the public funds you don't get to vote. We should get this going in the US ASAP as well. I have had it with parasites voting on how much they think I owe them.
another excellent idea
and an old one too. Try putting it to a vote though, lol.
Up until 1850 only property owners and taxpayers voted.
That doesn't sound fair.
Why not?
It sounds perfectly fair to me. Only people with skin in the game get a say in how the money is spent.
I'm kiddin, jeez. We got to where we are today by the promise of fairness. And safety.
Don't delude yourselves. Only congress votes. The rest of us are just jerking off in public.
Not me. I'm the one pointing and laughing at their foolish naivete for thinking they can make the world a better place via fighting for control of the metaphorical gun to our heads.
Totally agree, and no QE and "too big to save" parasitism.
Let free markets and true capitalism roll'in !
Private gain but private losses.
"Need to make everyone over 18 file a tax form and pay minimum $100"
I downvoted you for your short sighted solution of more tax will solve the problem. Really???
And hedge funds and investement banks have skin in the game?
Cannot have that, it would be anti-communist. Amazing how people will voluntarily stick their head in the lions mouth or up their ass and insist it belongs there. Good riddance to them and this bunch of parasites here in the defunct USA.
<<<make everyone over 18 file a tax form and pay minimum $100, this will change attitudes.>>>
In Peru, you can not vote if you did not pay taxes and you can not renew your national ID if you did not vote. You need ID to travel, to get drivers license, to bank and other .gov functions.
They need a liberal professor or an Al Sharpton to explain discrimination. I guess the poor don't count there, huh?
greek ferguson
Needs more Riot Dog
Is Kanellos still around?
He's dead... couldn't take the can kicking anymore.
Its all the pastry shops fault.
balaclavas vs. bakalava
But I thought Krugman said to smash the bakalava!?
I can understand the mindset. These are leftists. A Pastry Shoppe represents all the opulence, self-indulgence and greed of capitalism.
Looting is the new rioting.
I think they should change the SYRIZA definition to "left wing talking" political party.
Considering its' leader(s) backpedaled on all promises after elected.
Shouldn't that "talking" part just be added to ALL political party names?
I'm sure the bankers feel awfull about this.
When there is blood in the street the assets get cheap.
Krugman just came!
There's a mental picture I will never unsee. Thanks a lot.
The pastry and jewelry shops obviously hadn't paid enough fuckylucky.
Not only that, but those shops conspired to levy all of the additional debt on the Greeks. /s
It's always nice when the riot police let certain actions take place for their purposes.
Damn, now I need to go back in the threads I've viewed and look for that dildo who said the Greeks wouldn't riot.
Yeah, but do CIA assets really count?
Send school kids to negotiate with seasoned Eurocrats.
These Greek schoolkids were ripped apart.
They made off quite nicely, those schoolkids.
It’s only a anti government protest unless there’s a sit in And dozens of people smoke weed... according to American standards that is...
"Hippies Run the Government"
100 of the worlds( U.S.A that is) most Powerful People.
All or most raised in the 1960's. Besides Liberal and Socialist thinking, can they change the world? I think so.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2a5_1379446966
yep https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKGYMA8Fnxs
Everywhere is freaks and hairies
Dykes and fairies, tell me where is sanity
Tax the rich, feed the poor
Till there are no rich no more?
I'd love to change the world
But I don't know what to do
So I'll leave it up to you
Population keeps on breeding
Nation bleeding, still more feeding economy
Life is funny, skies are sunny
Bees make honey, who needs money, Monopoly
I'd love to change the world
But I don't know what to do
So I'll leave it up to you
World pollution, there's no solution
Institution, electrocution
Just black and white, rich or poor
Them and us, stop the war
I'd love to change the world
But I don't know what to do
So I'll leave it up to you
Sorry about what I did in your mouth last night. Most unfortunate.
They really do need to just burn the place down and start over. No matter who they vote for the outcome is always the same!
Wait, that sounds familiar ...USSA! It's past time here also!
Greece will NEVER BE a self-sustaining economy...hasn't in at least the last 180+ years....like the little US state of New Mexico....hundreds of billions $$$ spent by the Feds there since WW2's Manhattan Project, state has only 2 million people and over a third of everyone of them...are on Medicaid.
http://www.freeabq.com/?p=1261
New Mexico really is weird that way.
If the feds every pulled out of here, we'd just go back to being a bunch of farmers and ranchers. Rural NM is a whole other world from what most people are used to.
Atomic testing will do that to ya. ;-)
That means that Nevada is extra fucked. We only did minimal testing compared to them, though my grandparents were in the Tularosa basin in July of 1945. My grandfather woke up early one morning to go to work and noticed that the sun was rising too early and in the West. Government officials went around telling people that a munitions dump had exploded. While it is near impossible to prove that it was the cause, both of my grandparents on that side died of a very rare kidney cancer 50 years later. The only conclusion is that they were both exposed to the same thing.
Sorry, didn't mean to dredge that up.
That lack of provable contamination is an evil-doers best friend. I expect cancer to become the leading cause of death as a result.
It's a part of life. I got to watch my grandfather waste away in a bed for the last 6 months of his life. His mind was gone long before his body was, and I actually mourned his death before it came. By the time of the funeral, we were probably one of the most cheerful families that the Hearst driver had ever ferried from the church to the grave yard. Realizing that he wasn't the invincible man that I once viewed him to be, realizing that no matter what I or anybody did he was going to die, then watching him become something that wasn't him was the hardest part. The actual death? He was long gone before that came.
I'll tell you that I've already finished mourning the death of the USA in much the same way.
FWIW, even if it was the Trinity test that caused the cancer, they did live into their 80s.
With the WIPP on fire, there won't be "only 2 million" for long.
Golden Dawn at work.
They should be so lucky.
Syriza has to go for Grexit. It will be hard but managable. Otherwise Greece will drift to the far right=Greece not only out of EURO but EU.
These are not anti-authoritarian protesters, they are low-life losers. A pastry shop, jewelry stop, cars? You mean they go after small business owners and the personal property of fellow citizens to protest the government? Really? I've had it with the Geeks, I mean Greeks, as much as I have with the nanny-stater bankers in Brussels.
Equally likely these were the acts of agents provocateurs. Impossible to be confident of much these days...
The CIA thanks you for your support. Otherwise, their activation energy spent on infiltration wouldn't pay off.
Anytime an innocent is targeted, one should be very wary of a false-flag, as it's done entirely to shock you into thinking "one of them" did it.
You have no idea who did what, yet you've collectively dismissed the lot of them. Exactly as they desired.
Life has turn low for a majority of Greeks. If you protest for a half decent life with shelter and food you don't declare your protest anti-authoritan. It's low life protest for marginal improvment.
Doesn't it suck when mommy Germany takes the tit away?
From that perspective Germany is acting as the Fed in the US.
Whole Germany sponsors her export industry. The FED leave this role to the dept. of state.
totally off topic but does anyone else fell like the walls are closing in on ZH...so many (really stupic) ads...and video scripts that shut down my computer about every other page...not to mention the ads that totally blankes the page for a trip to Vermont---for Christ's sake, I have 4 feet of sonw in my yard!
There are now so many ads unneath the story that one can barely find the comments...
Tyler...are things that tough, wherever you (all) live, that I have to watch a GD fashion show when I am trying to desparately figure out how to save my sorry financial ass??!!
Google Chrome + AdBlocker Plus (Free) = Better
Huh?
you need to install adblock + noscript
Noscript is the very first thing I add to Firefox. The internet is basically unusable without it.
You know the trick for Explorer?
Yes. DON'T USE IT.
But if your forced to use it!
The new FCC law kicked in already? By jove they are fast.
You must be on a work computer then and can't download Chrome or Firefox?
Right !
AdBlock has no IE compatible product?
Looks like you can set domains as trusted/untrusted in IE.
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/using-ie-feature-to-get-noscript-...
Of course, dexter has the better answer.
http://www.privoxy.org/
not hard to setup and works better than anything else out there
Looks interesting. I wonder if it will set off alarms at my work? I tried a custom hosts file, but Kaspersky shits all over it in order to keep me safe.
Woof! Woof!
Turkish fighter jets entered Greek airspace yesterday too.
a la Ukraine...
More Ouzo please.
MOTHER FUCKING CUPCAKE MAKING AUTHORITARIANS!!! BURN!!!!
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, et cetera.
Well, other than there's no such thing as "peaceful revolution." Mob rule is always violent coercion, regardless of the appearance of the mob.
"ANTARSYA calls for defaulting on Greece’s debt, and nationalization without compensation of major industries, banning of lay-offs, the disarmament of the police, full political and social rights for immigrants."
If the idiots come to power and demand all of these things, figure out that somebody has to pay for it, then figure out that nobody can pay for it, it'll be another case of "meet the new boss, same as the old boss." At least when people knew where their food came from, they didn't think that all of those resources just magically poofed into existance at the store.
If I ever riot, you can bet your ass I'm going for the chocolate eclairs.
Might as well have some nice baklava while you're ripping some gold chains.
Opa!
Hot tip: Steal the jewelry first so you won't leave sticky fingerprints.
Jewess Nudelmann-Kagan was there?
jews....
Wow....funny stuff.
ANTARSYA calls for defaulting on Greece’s debt, and nationalization without compensation of major industries, banning of lay-offs, the disarmament of the police, full political and social rights for immigrants.
What could possibly go wrong with that?
The ordinary guys try to make an honest living providing goods & services people want, get their business's torched ....by ignorant protestors........ and the paracite scum bankers get off scot free.
what when the real inflation arrives?
I think you mean "well-payed agent-provocateurs."
Why are you falling for the script?
The Germans are fed up, the Greek are fed up, the banksters desperate and politicians are wondering how far they can go without getting thrown under the guillotine. Bring out the popcorn, the endgame has started.
Oh and place your bets, which one collapses and disapears first, here are my odds, maximum bet 100 euro:
USD 4
RUB 4
EUR 1,05
please share this link with obomba, lagarde and yellen so they can put their bets too.
GHAV! GHAV!
Kill the Bill! What Bill? The Old Bill silly.
This seems appropriate - Awesome Yanis
http://youtu.be/Afl9WFGJE0M
ANTARSYA policy = ALL Your Property belong to US ALL.
Become wealthy the old fashioned way. Steal and confiscate.
Hilarious Satire: 'V for Varoufakis!' Greek finance minister vs. Germany
http://thenewsdoctors.com/?p=289340
This endless Greek shit is getting to be as bad as the endless US presidental election babble.
This is what ya need to do:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkv_mJa4MNE
Just vote for Hillary you little cunts, and nobody gets hurt.
This family is liberal and we DETEST Hillary
Communist Syriza don't work so we need MOAR Communism with ANTAR...what ever the fuck to solve the problem.
Look like the definition of insanity by Albert Einstein.
In reality they are no different than any other form of forced collectivism. Different labels, different lies, that's all.
This was expected. Yesterday they banned soccer ... and then someone seems to have recognized that the removal of passions from the soccer fields to the street was not a good idea ... and reversed most of the ban.
CIA plants.
Someone, please wake me when the anti-government riots hit here in the USA. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ......................
Right! Now that demonstators are considered terrorists in the USSA !
Go back to sleep, zzzzzzzz
When you have nothing to do...you might as well do it together...
So the Syriza base is protesting the Syriza govt (probably state paid protestors, the Greek SEIU) looting private business that have nothing to do with the criminal govt.
This is why the left love gun control, guns deter looters.
Hope and Change, Greek bitchez !
What kind of IDIOT would smash the windows of a pastry shop and jewelry shop? I don't believe the protesters did it. It looks like, once again, the government is using provocators as a way to smear this protest movement. This government is the same as the old one without the ties.
Never underestimate the potential for this to be Gladio remnants either. Neo-nazis and the like as in Ukraine.
They're either going to get broken glass in the cake icing, or they won't be able to find the diamonds in all that broken glass.
Stupid either way.
maybe the Greek CIA? who may not reflect the views of the elected government? or the Bankers trying to undo what was voted on
Note to the other PIIGS countries...Hope and Change, Hope and Change, Hope and ... Awww, just fuck it !
In Kiev too, the mood is now turning ugly, this just out of Kiev.
"The "Financial Maidan" was a protest staged at the National Bank of Ukraine to protest the crash of the hryvnya and the resulting impoverishment of masses of people. Earlier in the day, Kiev mayor Klichko accused the demonstrators of being "Russian provocateurs" and expressed puzzlement as to why anyone would protest higher utility costs and prices, as well as lower wages. Then he unleashed riot police on the demonstrators. Note that the demonstrators are quite unlike the "European Maidan" ones, in that you don't see masked thugs waving neo-Nazi banners, only ordinary people suffering from the policies of the government. Judging by the high emotions, one should expect a repeat in the coming days. Possibly on a larger scale."
It should be kept in mind that Klichko is a retired heavy-weight boxer, so his lack of comprehension may be the result of too many thumps to the brain. But then again, he is from west Ukraine and is buddy-buddy with Nuland, McCain, Kerry, and the neo-Nazis in Kiev's Rada, so maybe its a combination of weak genes and brainwashing.
Seriously, the governments in Kiev have, for many years, resisted IMF demands for elimination of subsidies on food and home heating fuel that helped the Ukrainian people survive in spite of low incomes. The expected public backlash was too scary.
The latest $17.5 Billion loan from the IMF is being held back until the Rada enacts the full elimination of these subsidies. The IMF may also be seeking safeguards against future advances disappearing to oligarchs' Swiss bank accounts. In the meantime, the meltdown of the Ukraine economy is reflected in the meltdown of the Hryvnia, with unemployment and consumer prices skyrocketing and shortages of consumer goods expected. The Public Happiness and Consumer Confidence indices must be awfully low. Riots next?
PM YatsenYuk-Yuks has the problem well in hand - he blames the head of the Ukraine Central Bank for the devastation of the Hryvnia. It has been suggested that the latter-named lady had better decamp to friendlier destinations before the police arrive.
Meanwhile in Crimea the queues are for free healthcare and not hyperinflating food. One wonders if those in Western Ukraine are eyeing what the lucky few who joined Russia now have.
i think that Mayor has sealed his fate
Two bins set on fire - these days that constitutes a revolution.
FerguStanians by any other name....
Why doesn't this grassroots movement invoke the Walking Dead solution; eat each other.