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Provocation? NATO Conducts Military Maneuvers 300 Yards From Russia's Border
Submitted by Daniel McAdams via The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity,
When a Russian bomber flew over international waters some 25 miles off the southwest tip of England last week, UK Defense Secretary Michael Fallon called Russia "a real and present danger." The UK government scrambled jet fighters to meet the Russian aircraft as a show of force.
Said Secretary Fallon of the incident, "NATO has to be ready for any kind of aggression from Russia, whatever form it takes." He added that, "NATO is getting ready," warning particularly that Russia may soon move to invade the Baltic countries of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.
Reading the feverish Twitter feed of NATO's Supreme Allied Commander Europe, Gen. Phil Breedlove, one would get the impression that NATO is already at war with Russia. Fighter jets sit menacingly atop aircraft carriers as the General beams about NATO member countries' commitment to contribute to the fight.
Our @NATO allies are stepping up, making significant contributions. #NATO pic.twitter.com/hTtHNvi0Bm
— Phil Breedlove (@PMBreedlove) February 25, 2015
The message is clear: Russia is about to attack! NATO has, for no understandable reason, found itself in Russia's crosshairs. NATO cannot figure out how it is that Russia could possibly feel threatened by its actions, which, unlike Russia's are not in the slightest provocative.
Russian military plane over international waters 25 miles from the UK coast is "real and present danger" to NATO. Yet...
Yet yesterday US combat vehicles conducted a military parade and show of military force in Estonia just 300 yards -- yards! -- from the Russian border. That is just over 60 miles from downtown St. Petersburg.
Here is dramatic video of NATO's military display just three football fields from Russia:
This is not a provocation, we are to believe. This is not a "real and present danger" to Russia. NATO is exempt from the rules it imposes on its enemies.
In the Guardian's review of a new book by Politics professor George Sakwa, the current fallout from a near quarter century of post-Cold War NATO policies is perfectly captured:
The hawks in the Clinton administration ignored all this, Bush abandoned the anti-ballistic missile treaty and put rockets close to Russia’s borders, and now a decade later, after Russia’s angry reaction to provocations in Georgia in 2008 and Ukraine today, we have what Sakwa rightly calls a “fateful geographical paradox: that Nato exists to manage the risks created by its existence”.
That line bears repeating: "Nato exists to manage the risks created by its existence."
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Scumbag Zions and ZATO are endangering the whole world with their warmongering.
And I'm sure Obama will learn of this through the media. He'll deny having prior knowledge, even though we know it's all lies.
EDIT: To the hasbara downvoters, I'm sure Russia is about to invade Estonia. Riiiiight!
Just the bunch of buttholes playing mind games, but forgot their mind.
I wish someone with half of mind would tell the other mindless to grow the fuck up and get a real purposeful life.
He started it
Did not
Did to
Did not
Did to
etc.
My god, is that all we got to show off Russians - we can do better than that!
Next time, Goddamnit, we'll bring the white Toyota pickups with the Ma Duces .... I'm tellin' ya', grandpa'll just shit his pants when he sees that!
I'm sitting here remembering something about getting involved in a land war in Asia...
I'm sitting here remembering something about sedition and felony treason mentioned in the constitution.
How dare them Rooskies move their country so close to our military equipment.
Makes me wonder if Bill O'Reilly or Bryan Williams is there "reporting from the front" dodging those commie bullets and the red army.
Pretty scary, eh.
I'm thinkin' dey had doze tanks rigged to chirp out when dey hit the switches...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ntTyQ7yCqM
Meh ~ Today I dinnt even have to use my AK, I gotta say it was a good day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoIgiwEVCUQ
When does Putin go in front of the Duma with a stick figure bomb like Neti did?
Never ~ Putin isn't a cocksucking dipshit like Neti & friends.
Maybe he will have a 3D Tsar Bomba..
And the only people unnerved by that stupid stunt were the poor Estonian civilians and the US personnel in light armor likely in the sights of some T-90’s across the border.
This is a part of the Stryker brigade from Vilseck/Grafenwöhr training area in Germany.
http://www.nordbayerischer-kurier.de/nachrichten/aus-grafenwoehr-die-rus...
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/2nd_Cavalry_Regiment_%28U.S.%29
They just received 200 refurbished Abrams tanks from the US to deploy them in eastern Europe over the next weeks/months btw.
Without Russia as a bogeyman, NATO lacks any unifying purpose. Besides, 75% of NATO's military force is American.
One shot could have started WW3
crazy
Things are heating up on both sides of the border;
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/estonia/11435698/Nato-a...
Russia will hand NATO and the EU their ass on a plate if they encroach on Russian territory... Anything else is nothing but a Kabuki dance...
They hate us for our sound money and low interest rates.
...If and when the moment comes....Putin may have a surprise rebuttal to NATO and the USSA.
You are 100% correct. Bambi better tell somebody to wake up. Putin will put up with the flies for so long.
When he can not take the itching anymore there will be a price to pay. He has good bug spray for bugsters.
How stupid are they, or do they want to start a war with them. They better realize who China will side with.
Just a stray bullet away from armageddon....
If I was there on Military manuevers...I'd have fired it.
Yes I'd have done it, not because I hate the Russians, but because I hate the entire fraudulent NATO mess.
The World is so deserving of Global Thermonuclear War. And there would be no time for the Oligarchy to have sought shelter because it was not according to their plans.
Very Good Tom. I'd have backed you up. I pulled guard duty on the wall in 86. Pulled Nato guard duty too. This shit pisses me off to no end. To think the cold war is purposefully being brought back into a hot war is unbelievable. To think I served the Neolibs/cons under the impression it was for a noble cause gets me too. Shit, don't get me started...
Here come the bastards, here they come.
Tom; Get help, your a sick man. It's also obvious nobody loves you, that's sad. And you have nobody to love either, else you wouldn't make such an insane statement. No, the world DOES NOT deserve a global thermonuclear war. Far more innocent people would perish than the guilty, war is ALWAYS like that. Little children burnt up from radiation, walking around with their hair cinched off, their skin rolling off from the blisters. In agony. FUCK YOU. You are one of them, and don't even realize it. You served them well little bootlicker, and would again if you weren't such a damaged case psychologically. But then again, that's the type they want these days. There is always room for one more baby killer in their Army. Your their boy.
Deservin's got nuthin to do with it.
Well Russians do not even need a shot. They just say Estonians shot and declare a war, russians have done such things in the past.
"Loose nukes and a willingness to pop 'em of."
Darn right those guys will show the Flag.
What if those nukes are aimed at St Petersberg?
The zioqueers are out in force
Nah ~ it's just CH1 & SMG out there defending their hero 'Neti' to the last breath. Because he's so AWESOME & all.
Nothing more to see here, time to move on.
Just sent some articles exposing O'Reilly's tall "tales of heroism'" to some guys I know.
It should really piss 'em off.
They're definitely Fox Kool-aid drinkers
This is beyond fucking ridiculous.
Maybe it's time for Putin to arm rebel groups to overthrow the gov of Mexico and bring chaos to the US border. What the world really needs is a 2nd revolutionary war in the US to bring in a peacefull isolationist gov.
Your memory is terrible.
"By his Sedition Act of 1798 President Adams tried to safeguard the future of the Republic, but time has since shown that laws against secret societies and conspiracies (although they should be enacted, to establish the illegality of the undertaking) are ineffective in checking them, especially as the secret organization has centuries of experience in eluding such laws. The one effective measure against secret conspiracy is investigation, public exposure and remedy, and this has never been fully used."
"The controversy of Zion"-by Douglas Reed
“… the present era is among the most extraordinary which have occurred in the history of human affairs. Opinions, for a long time, have been gradually gaining ground, which threaten the foundations of religion, morality and society. An attack was first made upon the Christian revelation, for which natural religion was offered as a substitute … The very existence of a Deity has been questioned and in some instances denied. The duty of piety has been ridiculed, the perishable nature of man asserted, and his hopes bounded to the short span of his earthly state. Death has been proclaimed an eternal sleep, the dogma of the immortality of the soul a cheat, invented to torment the living for the benefit of the dead … A league has at length been cemented between the apostles and disciples of irreligion and anarchy. Religion and government have both been “stigmatized as abuses … The practical development of this pernicious system has been seen in France. It has served as an engine to subvert all her ancient institutions, civil and religious, with all the checks that served to mitigate the rigour of authority; it has hurried her headlong through a series of dreadful revolutions, which have laid waste property, made havoc among the arts, overthrown cities, desolated provinces, unpeopled regions, crimsoned her soil with blood, and deluged it in crime, poverty, and wretchedness; … This horrid system seemed awhile to threaten the subversion of civilized society and the introduction of general disorder among mankind. And though the frightful evils which have been its first and only fruits have given a check to its progress, it is to be feared that the poison has spread too widely and penetrated too deeply to be as yet eradicated. Its activity has been suspended, but the elements remain, concocting for new eruptions as occasion shall permit. It is greatly to be apprehended that mankind is not near the end of the misfortunes which it is calculated to produce, and that it still portends a long train of convulsion, revolution, carnage, devastation and misery. Symptoms of the too great prevalence of this system in the United States are alarmingly visible. It was by its influence that efforts were made to embark this country in a common cause with France in the early period of the present war; to induce our government to sanction and promote her odious principles and views with the blood and treasure of our citizens. It is by its influence that every succeeding revolution has been approved or excused; all the horrors that have been committed justified or extenuated; that even the last usurpation, which contradicts all the ostensible principles of the Revolution, has been regarded with complacency, and the despotic constitution engendered by it slyly held up as a model not unworthy of our imitation. In the progress of this system, impiety and infidelity have advanced with gigantic strides. Prodigious crimes heretofore unknown among us are seen.…”
undated memoir left among Alexander Hamilton's papers
Send the USS Gabby Gifford!
Can't make this shit up.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/navy-announces-uss-gabriell...
I'm sure someone somewhere is already lobbying for the USS Bruce Jenner, cuz he's so courageous, ya know?
Bruce is really distraught over killing someone un-important.
How ironic. Since this bitch was nearly assassinated, she has been on a crusade to abolish the Second Amendment. Now there will be s warship bristling with guns named after her! As a Navy veteran, all I can say is it is just another sad day in the history of a once great and proud branch of service. Soon to be completely feminized and homosexualized to the point where it is no longer an effective fighting force. I'm sooo disgusted right now.
lols, now there's some high-grade rolled-gold jump-the-shark!
Orwell would be impressed.
Plumbing new depths of exceptionalism.
No right to establish a government.
The dupes are just obeying their genes.
Double post.
.
You should try going against a Sicilian in a contest where death is involved.
It's just slightly less known.
Next time, Goddamnit, we'll bring the white Toyota pickups with the Ma Duces .... I'm tellin' ya', grandpa'll just shit his pants when he sees that!
knuks,
If you ever need to revive a comatose European Theater WWII grunt, play the sound of a Tiger Tank.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzLRbDzk3mk
Don't watch, just listen.
There is a nice mini documentary about how they used that tank in the movie "Fury"
Impressive.
Toward the end of that video is what appears to be either a TigerII (KT). Those were real beasts (when running). Good thing they didn't have time or materials to bring the E-75 online.
Hell. Shits not really serious until the EM-50 Urban Assault Vehicle appears!
You can get used ford expeditions from state police surplus sales for less than five thousand bucks, and they're already painted white.
Just cut the top off and mount 'em up.
the difference being ukraine is nato territory now. uk airspace is not soviet airspace.
Maybe in your cat world ! In the real world Ukraine is nowhere close to being NATO territory. Good luck convincing NATO citizens that they have to become cannon fodder for the sake of Ukraine. Or any baltic midget for that matter... However, I would love for any of those NATO morons to cross that border, just to see how quickly the get to feed the flowers aftewards...
cat people...
lol, Zio trolls like to pretend they have created a new "reality" goes back to PNAC, and well before that I'm sure.
Who was the neocon jew asshole w/ dubya who had that quote about "while you are analyzing our recent moves we have already created a new reality" - more like a giant shit storm
as opposed to adolf fluffers.
good comeback! i have nothing more to add... you win!
On 2015 Earth, the Zionists are the Adolf fluffers.
Like all fascists.
U must be referring to ROVE, Karl Rove. One of the biggest fucking sores on mankind there ever was
presenting the complete list of PNAC Zio Revolutionary Dual citizen "New Pearl Harbor" architect traitors.
http://www.publiceye.org/pnac_chart/pnac.html
Mark Brzezinski?? Please tell me there's not another one out there. PLEASE!
Hey Heb Bush is on that list!
What gives?!
/s
Correction. NATO wants Ukraine to be NATO territory, but it's not. And 25 miles off England's coast is not legally England's territory. How many US subs you figure are just outside Russia, China, Iran, etc., etc., etc. but in international waters?
Both sides in this mess are playing with fire. I agree with some others who have posted that one misstep and we're all either glowing in the dark or are a little tiny pile of ash. I keep hoping cooler heads will prevail, but I am getting seriously concerned that these assholes don't realize just how close we are to annihilation.
Yes, that is the extent of the Queen's navy.
On the ther hand, the Russians have few pontoons, a row boat and a couple of rusty old achors from the Cold War era!
Only the US and Japanese have real navies left. France, a little bit.
Is that a Harrier carrier
They're gonna need a bigger boat......
"Wars have started ths way, Mr. Ambassador!"
Hilarious how all the pro-Russia douches are suddenly getting all precious about borders huh?!
I thought you pricks didn't give a crap about borders and Sovereign territories any more?
Double-edged sword cunts.
Surprise attack on Pearl Harbor --> Hiroshima.
Surprise!!
See how that works?
cant help . nato douchebags must be kept in check especially yanks you never no when they will go full retard like their spineless spooks element .
haha, I bet you've got yer swastika undies on again eh? ... the ones yer skinhead boyfriend gets all frenzied about ..
If the Heebs thought Russia was stronger, they'd ally with her against the U.S.
That's what parasites do.
In any event, I don't think we're that far away from our next Yid sponsored false flag event that sparks even more global conflict, especially if there's a chance that the P+5 Iranian nuclear deal is looking like it may result in a peaceable conclusion (Israeli Hawks won't allow for that).
Git your goyim sons/daughters ready to fight some more battles and spill some more blood & brain matter for Ziocons, Mr. & Mrs. Smith of Sioux City, Iowa.
You have made an important point about the nature of Zionsim. When the United Kingdom was still an Empire, Zionism was home based in London, and the British government did the bidding of world zionist. After World War II when the UK was all but turned into a second rate power, the zionist moved to Washington DC en' mass. Now Washington DC is the world center of Zionism. If, some otherr nation grew to be the world power, zionists would flee to it.
As you said "That's what parasites do" And you all too correct. The Zionists have through all history sought out the real world power, and set up their base there.
Israel is trying to make nice to China, selling them details of US weapons freely provided to Israel by the freier US.
http://benswann.com/german-general-appointed-chief-of-staff-of-us-army-e...
Move to Russia and defend the ideals you cherish.
Your schmegma needs to be washed.
My ideal exist in the Constitution which the zionist controlled government isn't being kept in check by now that all 5 areas necessary to take over a country are firmly within their control
Go fuck yourself in thinking you can dictate what my ideals are.
Amen colonel Klink. Tarabel, let me guess, you believe "when you walk in golden halls you get to keep the gold that falls"? Yea, keep believing the bullshit the elite tells everyone to cause race, ethnic, class divisions...
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Pretty sure any westerner flying to Russia these days will be black bagged at the airport and never seen again. Gotta stop the brain drain and potential leaking of evide... uh I mean state secrets.
Yeah, like Edward Snowden? Oh that's right, he sought asylum there from the freedumbs of Amerikan police state.
Need to change your user name to dumbassasaurus.
It's like you don't even understand the language. Note the temporal clarifier used, "these days". The current days are clearly post-Snowden. Unless of course you are posting from the past. But that just raises more questions, like how are you doing that and how do you know about Snowden?
You didn't specify which airport and by what you wrote it was easy to interpret it as the Russian airport. Clarity of statement helps with comprehension.
If I misunderstood what you meant, I retract my prior negative comments towards you.
Moto is working for the joos. You would be unwise to retract anything there. When he spouts about the brain drain if you flew into russia, why doesnt he mention what the mossad did to Iraq? They simply murdered anyone with half a brain there in the prelude to the bush war. Id say if any joos flew into Russia or anywhere else they should get what they deserve. No more, no less.
Thanks I try to be fair when I believe I may have made a mistake in understanding.
I meant that the west would black bag them, not the Russians. I apologise for the ambiguity.
Then I agree. The West will Black Bag them.
It used to be the other way around. The USSR would Black Bag those who were seeking asylum in the West.
Shit. Times have changed.
Humanity has a metastasizing pathological Zio cancer and they will kill us all via nuclear war all if left unchecked.
grow some brain you muppet!
Tarabel..If you think that you have the ability to dictate where I live then you need back up your words with force.
I live at 12223B Woodside Avenue in lovely Lakeside, California USA.
Bring your guns, bitch, and attempt to force me out.
I will be waiting...patiently, for either you, or your ilk.
Nice set of clankers you have there Tom! Salute!!
Yeah. Thanks.
Now where in the hell is that bitch, tarabel, at?
an urban home is so vulnerable to a drive by napalming. 20 oz bottle of dawn and gas with an oil soaked rag. bar-b-que city
Not too concerned. Bring it on. It is an apartment in an industrial center
Good luck getting past the surveilance cameras on Channel Road and Wintergardens.
Drive on by and be sure to smile for the cameras.
I've already mapped it out. I am in an Open Air Prison. You have to drive into it to get to me. And I will return fire.
Don't you like your Police State?
Plastic infused into Gasoline is much better, especially under compression.
Anybody can do it. Can you get away with it is the question.
In the corner licking her balls.
If it wasn't so damn cold, I might already be packing my bags.
Nice and warm in San Diego.
Pack yer bags. You deserve a vacation.
Next time we're down in Ramona, I might just look you up. The Country Cafe on Main serves a mean breakfast!
Russia'll invade Estonia long before you got a free Internet.
my buddy's mom makes $84 /hour on the computer . She has been laid off for 5 months but last month her pay check was $19076 just working on the computer for a few hours. browse around this website... www.globe-report.com
Imagine Russia doing this on the Mexican border. Barry would be on a trip anywhere but here.
I knew a fellow who poked a bear with a stick.
He was not thinking clearly they said at his funeral
I knew a bear that thought an American would make a nice lunch.
Now he stays warm all the time in his place on the floor in front of the fire.
Your metaphors are somewhat lacking... don't give up your day job for writing just yet !
That is the day job...
Look Tarabe, IMHO, I feel as a Texan, I'm probably more inline with the Russian people than any other in the world. Also, with the completely incompetent leadership we have in this administration, who will suffer most even if provoked by Russia, is us. Not the fuckers who provoke thses senseless wars.
If a conflict is started with Russia, well mouth is not going to win the fucking fight. The mouthy Mfers always get knocked out sooner or later.....
We need to mind our own shit and leave them alone, period. Imo.
With HOPE, DOPE AND CHANGE in the chair, it would be a horrible move. Horrible anyway, anytime.
So go back to planting asparagus and shut the fuck up.
300 yards? jeezus that's like a driver, 3 iron and wedge for the limp wristed Obozo, let's not get too worked up?
Ballsy or stupid....or knows what's gonna happen soon?
American flags around 3 minute mark. How cute.
.
At one point the parade was greeted by a Russian flag and the Soviet national anthem.
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/02/nato-military-parade-in-narva-eston...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKiFCIS2GJU
Je suis warmonger.
Ahh, once again, ad nauseam, America flaunting it's noxiously narcissistic form of "Freedom and Democracy" for all to see.
Well of course, haven't you heard. We're "exceptional." Especially at fucking thing up.
John Kerry admits: We lost the propaganda war!
When is lying ever winning?
The premium on truth is so high and unaffordable, just not worth the fight.
Lies are cheap man. How many can obama and kerry put out for the buck? Thats why they keep at it, cause they're fucking broke and thats the last move.
They used to mix it up some u know. Mix lies and truth. But nowadays they must be so damn broke that its lies alone.
That's why they wanna censor the Internet, FFS
O'Pj's Party gonna be the first to loose while controlling the Internet
As if NBC, CBS, ABC and the likes are not propaganda arms of the US government. Fuck You Kerry. Hope you die real soon and hopefully it's a painful cancer of the ass
So... the West really won it then yeah?
Losers keep on losing. That's what losers do.
Look at the size of Russian military exercises vs. NATO. NATO is like a bunch of annoying mosquitoes by comparison.
Russia GDP: 2 T
NATO GDP: 35 T
It didn't work out for Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan either.
I'm pretty sure that Germany's GDP in 1939 was way bigger than Russia's. What's your point (if any) ?
My point is that Germany and Japan, even combined, were far weaker economically than the nations they were at war with. But Russia is much, much, much weaker on a comparative basis than was Nazi Germany and would have to be insane to tangle with such a powerful alliance that is filled with veteran troops, has a much larger population, manufacturing, and agricultural base plus whose navies rule the waves and whose air forces rule the skies.
Nor would I say for certain that Germany had a larger GDP than the USSR. It would be hard to measure under standard conditions given the communist nature of the one, but in terms of material outputs, the USSR was far ahead of Germany in many areas.
If 1940s Germany had nukes, do you really think the map would look as it does today, and the war would have had the same outcome?
If this stays an economic war, Russia turns inward, it's more than large enough to be self-sufficient, and it's got a nice big growing asian trading partner now, too, that can be reached by land routes.
If this goes hot, 1) out leadership is insane and 2) the outcome is both sides lose. This isn't WWII.
He apparently doesnt know shit about history. The German economic machine during WWII was simply incredible. Even when the war was lost they were producing more than when the war started.
You are right. tarabel does not know shit about History.
But do you know History??? Or are you the proverbial kettle calling the pot, black?
When John D. Rockefeller of Standard Oil fueled Germany's War Economy with Oil from South America and shipped to Germany via Switzerland...DURING THE WAR...
madisonvoices.com/pdffiles/secret_pact_standard_oil.pdf
When Preston Bush (Father of George HW and grandfather of George W) funded the Nazi War Machine through Union Bank...until J. Edgar Hoover shut them down....
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar
When Henry Ford and Ford Motor Company manufactured German Military Trucks and support equipment...USING SLAVE LABOR DURING THE WAR...
(It is kinda easy to get profits that way, right? And after you have exhausted them then they make great oven fuel to heat the boilers for more energy. Nothing goes to waste. Efficiency, my good man...Efficiency damn it.)
http://www.bulldognews.net/issues_ford_slave_labor.html
I just, somehow, do not believe that Hitler had an problem with funding or acquiring War Material.
LMAO...We were not fighting the Nazis and freeing Europe as the History Books will lead the uninitiated to believe.
We were fighting ourselves...killing American Soldiers so that large corporations could garner profits....LIKE TODAY in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, and any other place where we stick our nose.
Same as it ever was.
.....you know who had a really low GDP ratio you wasted fuck ....... c'mon guess......
Victor Charles and his cousins Nathaniel Victor...... bunch of dirt farmers that just wanted to be left alone in their own country taking on the same imperial-nazionist mother fuckers that we see pulling this shit today ......GDP go fuck yourself GDP
...... how much is your fucking GDP with an airburst nuke EMP'n your precious lifestyle - you want to play let's fucking play when you have no power generation capacity left look around you genius how much more war do you want ....... never mind it'll be on your doorstep soon enough
Are you replying to me?
IF YOU ARE...
I tell you the fucking reality about war and you think that I SUPPORT THIS ?!?
I have withdrawn my financial support in this nightmare and you think that I supprot this?
I refuse to invest in any American Corporations, for YEARS, on ZH, and elsewhere, have told people to withhold ANY Financial and Material Support and you think that I, somehow, support this?
That is the reason that there is no fucking hope.
Now I could have invested in Raytheon, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, or any other American Weapons Manufacturer and I would have made myself a nice BLOODY profit.
But I just do not like the taste or smell of Blood Money. It just does not appeal to my pallette.
Or I could have taken my Engineering and Science skills, worked for one of these industries, and applied those quite affectively to the "art" of killing people.
I'd be better off financially than I am now. But, again, the taste of Blood Money is quite repulsive and gives me the urge to purge.
Then I need put up with the likes of you, setting up a Strawman Argument and attempting, vainly and transparently I might add, to sully my reputation and diminish my character for exposing inconvenient truths?
Fuck you.
Let's all fry in a Thermonuclear hell together. Yeah...Go Amerika, go. Red Team, Blue Team, rah, rah, rah.
IF YOU ARE NOT...NEVERMIND. Your response is to my post.
sorry ....my bad.....poor placement.... just responding to Tarabel and the whole foolish GDP comment......
I kinda figured that...after I wrote the damned rant.
So I editted it and added the disclaimer.
If I remember properly, when Germany started the war with Russia (FYI, previously they were allies), US was not yet part of the war, and Europe was pretty much finished. And no, you're wrong about GDP; in 1939 the GDP of USSR was about half the one of Germany (see http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=191325). Anyway, Google is your friend ...
The Nazi regime was founded, funded, armed and supported by Western business, financial and Soverign (where countries still had a Monarch) interests specifically for providing a militarized state to oppose the bolsheviks. What they got in repayment for this support was unlimited access to the profits of zero-cost mining and manufacturing in the form of slave camps dotted all over the continent, particularly in the East.
It wasn't until it was obvious that the Nazis were going to lose to the Soviets that the US industry switched sides and entered the war against the Nazis.
...US industry switched sides...
I agree with everything everything that you wrote except that...US Industry switched sides.
US Industry is always on the side of their own interests as profit is the ultimate goal. They have absolutely no priciples and the mark of ethics is the bottom line. Yes war is good for Defense Contractors...
What amazes me is how many of us are so INDOCTRINATED by the bullshit taught in the Public Schools.
Damn. The Propaganda machine is so throughly affective and Bernays was a malevolent genius.
By the same standard, how does the material output of NATO compare to Russia? Because I know for sure that America produces more bullshit than anyone in the world.
Germany, Italy and Japan are a perfect example of why today's West would lose. The AXIS lost because they had really, really stupid leadership and made decisions based on emotion rather than reality.
NATO and the Anglo Zionists have spent too much time congratulating themselves on how rich, powerfull and clever they are, and have fallen for their own narrative - since the results in Donbass, Syria and Iran are not going their way, they are literally starting to lose their minds and the likelyhood of tragedy is almost a certainty.
Only reality will keep the Anglo Zionists in check - the Empire's brakes have failed and it is careening into WWIII
In today's Bizarro World, Russia, China and the Brics and maybe Island are the last bastions of freedom against the full spectrum totalitarian state the Anglo Zionists have planned for us. Tarabel, please fuck off and die along with the Hasbara trolls in the booth next to you...
Tarabel--I'm 55 and too arthritic anyway to defend myself physically if attacked, so I'll just kill the motherfucker who attacks me.
Ditto, Russia. They know that we have way more to lose than they do, so they'll use tactical nukes first in any conflict with the West. The great equalizer will be the willingness to use nukes and escalate.
Russians are warriors in their souls
and not afraid of much
But Russia is much, much, much weaker on a comparative basis than was Nazi Germany and would have to be insane to tangle with such a powerful alliance that is filled with veteran troops, has a much larger population, manufacturing, and agricultural base plus whose navies rule the waves and whose air forces rule the skies.
Yeah tara"jew"...
Just take a look at these guys as the poster children that will start it that have already been on four to five tours and are on multiple drugs to cope with PTSD and suicide after 14 years of a war on terror after the lie of all lies 9/11?!!!... Even if you believe ABC news and the Daily Mail, this one won't be Syria.
Go ahead Jew boy!... Lead the way!!!!
Germany did not have abundance raw materials was main....
Germany was targeted exactly because extremely strong and rapid economy growth.
Dumbest...comparison...ever
Russian debt: 9% of GDP
USA debt: > 106% of GDP
Not even including the rest NATO (which includes GREECE!)
NATO ground forces are just fodder anyway. Russian tactical doctrine permits deploying short range nuclear weapons in a national emergency, Putin deployed some in 2008 during the Georgian war as a GTFO message to NATO.
Sorry, you´re right with the debts.
But then your fantasy overtook.
In this case truth is scarier than fiction. Parking 5000, 50000, whatever amount of NATO troops in Europe isn't a deterrent, its a bunch of targets. Russia reserves the right to use theatre nukes in the event of a serious crisis, which is why we don't see serious troop commitments in Georgia or Nulandostan (former Ukraine).
...But then your fantasy overtook
Really ? Show me one example in history of a war being won by the bankrupt side... and I'm not talking about moral bankruptcy.
Germany didn't have nukes
Too funny to even be frightening. It's not like they were going to attack Russia and it's not like Russia was going to attack them. The need to go around proving to everyone that you're not a punk-ass bitch is... a sure sign of a punk-ass bitch.
What the video fails to show is that a couple of blocks down the road the Estonian brothels were having a "buy one, get one free" night. NATO troops just got tired of manning the checkpoints Russia was never going to invade through and couldn't be bothered pillaging commandeering some civilian vehicles to make the trip.
"punk-ass bitch"
I speak from experience. If you ever find yourself locked up, for any reason, and you want to FIGHT, then you should make the mistake of uttering these words, or any variation of them. One must understand the power of WORDS while incarcerated. NEVER say the words "punk" or "bitch" unless you're looking for a beat-down, or unless you're confident that you can take on several inmates at the same time.
MAJOR FIGHTING WORDS.
That being said, the USSA are CONTINUOUSLY and REPEATEDLY saying these words to Russia and Vladimir Putin.
They deserve the beat-down that's coming.
what a poor show of stupidity
Not a poor show, but a shitshow.
Anybody remember Oblameo in '09 abandoning the defensive missle shield in Europe....? Heckuva job, barry.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/17/missile-defence-shield-barack-obama