What Happens If The Department Of Homeland Security Shuts Down

Tyler Durden's picture

Moments ago we got another stark reminder from none other than the president himself, that the nightmare of all mega-statists, another (partial) government shutdown, may be just around the corner:

The reason: as soon as tomorrow, the one part of the US government which to many is a manifestation of all that is broken with the current US "big brother" state of pervasive, ubiquitous surveillance and broken immigration policies, the Department of Homeland Security which was created in response to September 11, and which houses the agencies with jurisdiction over immigration law, the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) and U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) may be shut down.

As ABC explains, the reason is that unlike the rest of the government, the DHS is subject to stopgap funding and "since September, Republicans and Democrats haven’t been able to agree on a full year of funding –- instead, twice since then they’ve agreed to fund DHS for a couple of months, each time hoping to reach a deal on a full year of funding. Time runs out again Friday night, but no deal is in sight."

Republicans irked by President Obama’s plan to give legal status to 5 million illegal immigrants say this time they’ll let DHS “shut down” unless the Obama administration backs down from its immigration plan. Democrats insist DHS funding shouldn’t be tied to a presidential action taken without Congressional approval. But if DHS does “shut down,” should you be worried? It depends who you are, and how long the shutdown lasts.

What happens if we go into the weekend without a DHS deal?  In the event of a shutdown, the vast majority of DHS employees would stay on the job. DHS Secretary Johnson said earlier this week that about 30,000 of DHS's approximately 240,000 employees would be furloughed. The rest would be considered exempt and most would have to work without pay.

For everyone else, a brief shutdown won't have an impact. Should the shutdown drag on, this is how DHS official describe the "state-less" hell that would be unleashed:

FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY

  • If a major snowstorm or earthquake or even terrorist attack hits a city or state, DHS won’t be able to send the state federal funds for recovery.
  • State and local authorities rely on federal grants to afford many of their first responders, but new grant requests won’t be processed – potentially forcing cities and towns across the country to cut back on police, fire and ambulance services.
  • Each month, FEMA trains thousands of state and local emergency personnel how to handle “very specialized” cases such as those involving Ebola, anthrax or sarin gas, but that training will stop.

CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION (INC. BORDER PATROL & CUSTOMS OFFICERS)

  • 500 recruits currently in training in Georgia will be sent home, wasting significant amounts of taxpayer money already invested in them and possibly losing them as recruits.
  • CBP won’t be able to replace or upgrade aging surveillance systems along the Southwest border
  • Certain criminal cases against those trying to cross the border illegally or smuggle prohibited items into the United States will slow or stop, especially after lawyers at CBP are sent home.

SECRET SERVICE

  • The Secret Service won’t be able to make certain security upgrades at the White House in the wake of several recent breaches there.
  • The 2016 presidential candidates could be put at risk because the Secret Service won’t be able to pay “for the things we need” to protect them.

IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT

  • ICE will miss out on hundreds of millions of dollars intended to address “unaccompanied minors” and families still crossing the Southwest border illegally.

TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION

  • “Nothing to report here,” though training and other “non-essential administrative functions would cease.”

 


 

So will there be a shutdown? Here is Stone McCarthy with an answer looking at the probability of just that contingency.

Funding for the Department of Homeland Security will lapse after Friday if Congress doesn't appropriate funds through either a continuing resolution (CR) or legislation that funds DHS for the balance of the fiscal year. Recall that when Congress in December passed legislation funding the rest of the government through September, it chose to fund DHS only through February 27. Many Republicans hoped to use DHS funding to block President Obama's executive actions on immigration, and felt their odds would improve in 2015 after taking control of the Senate and winning a larger majority in the House.

As we wrote in our December comment, simply keeping the DHS on a shorter funding leash doesn't have much impact on Obama's executive orders on immigration. The DHS houses the agencies with jurisdiction over immigration law: U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) and U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP). USCIS would take the lead in implementing the President's executive orders on immigration, but doesn't rely on the annual appropriations process for funding.

The House did pass legislation in mid January that both funds DHS and explicitly prohibits the relevant agencies within DHS from implementing the President's immigration policies. But the legislation has stalled in the Senate, where Democrats have blocked it on four separate occasions.

Senate Majority Leader McConnell is planning to strip the immigration provisions from the DHS funding bill; a vote on a clean funding bill could come as soon as Thursday. McConnell wants to hold a separate vote on immigration, but Democrats say they won't agree to that until DHS is funded.

Assuming the Senate passes a clean DHS funding bill, what does that House do? House Speaker Boehner would have trouble getting the more hard-line members of his party to support such a bill. There's talk that a recent ruling by a Texas judge that blocks the implementation of Obama's immigration orders might give Republicans cover to support a clean funding bill, but that's far from clear. In the end, Boehner would probably need to recruit some Democrats if he wants to pass stand-alone legislation funding DHS, assuming he's willing to bring it to a vote.

We would put the odds of a DHS shutdown at less than 50-50. After their big win in November, GOP leaders pledged that they would prove that they "could govern," that government wouldn't lurch from crisis to crisis and that there would be no government shutdowns. We think the odds of Congress funding DHS through the entire fiscal year are probably also less than 50-50, however, and that DHS is funded again for a shorter period of time through a CR. (A very short CR of a day or two is also possible over the next day as Congressional leaders sort out the logistics of voting on a clean bill.)

If a shutdown occurs, we think it would be brief. The political repercussions of shutting the DHS could be negative, especially given recent events including threats to U.S. shopping malls and today's arrest in Brooklyn of three individuals charged with aiding the Islamic State.

In the event of a shutdown, the vast majority of DHS employees would stay on the job. DHS Secretary Johnson said earlier this week that about 30,000 of DHS's approximately 240,000 employees would be furloughed. The rest would be considered exempt and most would have to work without pay.

DHS hasn't published a detailed breakdown of employees that would be furloughed or exempt like it did in advance of the 2013 government shutdown. But the estimates published then serve as a useful proxy for what would happen in the event of a shutdown after Friday. The following table summarizes employees at the agencies within DHS that accounted for the great majority of employees in advance of the 2013 shutdown, and shows the number expected to be furloughed and the number expected to be exempt at that time.

As the table shows, USCIS accounted for 5.7% of employees in 2013, but just 1.1% of furloughs. As we noted above, USCIS doesn't rely on the annual appropriations process. Presumably its exempt workers would get paid, but we're not entirely clear on that. In the event of a shutdown, the operations of USCIS would for the most part continue. However, that may be a moot point for the President's immigration policies unless a higher court reverses the stay imposed by the court in Texas.

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TruxtonSpangler's picture

Dont turn ZH into another media lapdog. DHS will be funded dont worry.

SoilMyselfRotten's picture

We party like it's Sept.10th, 2001

TruxtonSpangler's picture

This is only designed to demonize them bitter clinger conservatives that control congress.

MarketAnarchist's picture

Do you really think a little price haggling is going to stop the Fascist-communist-totalitarian police state that is the US government from implementing complete domination over the citizens?

 

Get real.

 

Heres my budget - 0$ for ALL departments.

Whoa Dammit's picture

Oh no! Now they won't be able to find Elvis when he goes through airport security.

knukles's picture

They, along with the military don't shut down.  Period, EOC
The only "shutdown" will be the fear porn on the MSM.
And Politicians

 

If you want your ass fingered you can still getchur ass fingered at any US airport.
QED

SeattleBruce's picture

"Democrats insist DHS funding shouldn’t be tied to a presidential action taken without Congressional approval."

Yes Democrats, we insist that you and the Republicans should be able to take unilateral action without Congressional or any other approval related in any way to the will of the people.  And of course most Americans have their head firmly planted in a pile of sand.  Any wonder why we're so cynical around here about party politics?

OilCaptain's picture

Democrats and Republicans - Opposite sides of the same worthless coin.

SamAdams's picture

Anyone else hear the theme song from "Barnum and Bailey's Circus"?

MiguelitoRaton's picture

What happens? The homeland becomes more secure!

Chuck Norris's picture

The illegal border crossings will continue until DHS funding improves!!

Oh wait... they're happening anyway

knukles's picture

PS  Forecasting rain for this weekend, big spraying started last night out here, all over, today.
Duh
Talk about shutting some shit down....

Silky Johnson's picture

Fewer people will get their balls jostled or their titties groped?

SilverIsKing's picture

If DHS shuts down, which is highly unlikely, perhaps we should expect an event to prove to us just how important they truly are.

Four chan's picture

once created a bureaucracy can never be shut down.

Liberal's picture

DHS only employees 240,000 people?!?!?!

THAT'S OUTRAGEOUS!!! Hire more! Hire more NOW!!!

A Nanny Moose's picture

Nothing is as permanent as a temporary government program.

toys for tits's picture

 

 

I was ready to go on govliquidation.com to buy those 6 billion hollow point rounds for $1.00

Theosebes Goodfellow's picture

Oh Toys, you witty, witty boy! Upvote for you!

 

And as if to prove the govt. doesn't know its ass from a hole in the ground, there's this:

Obama to ban bullets by executive action, threatens top-selling AR-15 rifle

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2560750

I'm curious as hell to see how well this bright idea will fly...

giggler321's picture

OR they could just auction off all those 10bullets for every citizen.  That should help pay for some more surveillance.

TheObsoleteMan's picture

BINGO! I was thinking the same thing. I wouldn't be surprised if they INTENTIONALLY didn't fund DHS, so they could stage another false-flag attack just to prove to us how indispensable they are. Who again would ever dare question the necessity of the existence of DHS. ONLY A TERRORIST WOULD. 

Tek Kinkreet's picture

lots of fluffers looking for a job

BLOTTO's picture

February 27th...

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Handful of Dust's picture

What female agent is going to grab my balls at the airport if the tsa and dhs shut down? I feel left out, kinda lonely if that happens.

 

True, it's a cheap thrill, but as far as cheap thrills go it's pretty good.

e_goldstein's picture

Er ma gawd, won't someone think of the chitlins (and Handful of Dust's balls)?

Cadavre's picture

If a major ... terrorist attack hits a city or state, DHS won’t be able to send the state federal funds for recovery.

They also would not be able fund the very same false flag attack that "the" state would require funds to recover from.

Is there anybody in the audience that really believes so called terror attacks and so called responses to terror attacks is anything more than a borderline circle jerk of prepubescent boys attempting to understand their sexuality? Come on, ya got your limp wrist-ed hand wrapped around another dudes love muscle, for goodness sakes. Is that manly behavior? Or. is it the manifestation of confused girly-boys?

We don't need DHS. DHS needs us and will kill and mame as many of us as may be required to make it appear otherwise. 

The only people DHS serves is to protect the banksters and our employees, the whoring CSPAN gadflies selected by the "no receipt" Diebold machines.

Four words: "This is our land". And whoa be the muther-farker stroking his worm thing thinking otherwise.

JRobby's picture

Instead of the word TERROR being uttered 5,000 X a day across all media outlets it will be uttered 15,000 X

Who isn't numb to all this fantasy fuck fest by now.

Remember Tom Ridge the mastermind of yellow, orang, red alert days? And they actually intituted that shit.

What bullshit

Stop funding any of this crap

 

 

JRev's picture

False flag to justify DHS expansion in preparation of derivatives collapse in 3, 2, 1...

Abaco's picture

And 30,000 uselesss parasites, so useless even federal employees can't find a reason to call them essential, get a paid vacation.

TheAntiProgressive's picture

Yes and instead of calling it a paid vacation which is accurate they call it a "furlough".  Last time we also funded the "welcome back" parties and I am sure things will be no different today.  Congress already passed some bill to make sure the furloughed workers will be compensated.  Like 80% are listed as "essentail" and ain't going anywhere.

TheAntiProgressive's picture

Yes and instead of calling it a paid vacation which is accurate they call it a "furlough".  Last time we also funded the "welcome back" parties and I am sure things will be no different today.  Congress already passed some bill to make sure the furloughed workers will be compensated.  Like 80% are listed as "essentail" and ain't going anywhere.

I MISS KUDLOW's picture

It's too late anyway it doesn't matter ninety percent of economy is running off gov, education healthcare defense everything else is gone

JRev's picture

The fact that you could receive a downvote for this is proof of the rapid intellectual degredation of the ZH readership. 

StupidEarthlings's picture

"The fact that you could receive a downvote for this is proof of the rapid intellectual degredation of the ZH readership."

 

I wonder who downed?.. Dems or Repubs?.. ;)

JRev's picture

Well, I can't remember the last time ZH was linked to from HuffPo or Mother Jones, can you? :P 

My money's on the Bible thumpin' warmongering little fucks still fawning over their own mental midgetry. Either that or the NSA Troll Squad. The downvotes for this post will serve as a nice barometer.

JRobby's picture

The "coin" is presented to make the electorate think they have a choice. They don't.

The "coin" is only about keeping the electorate divided.

The MSM spins the "coin" depending on the ficticious ideological assignment the oligarchs have provided to them.

 

El Vaquero's picture

I prefer to look at them as competing crime families.  They have the same goals in general, though there may be some trivial ideological differences, and they'll both break your knees if you don't pay them the protection fees that they've declared that they're entitled to. 

A Nanny Moose's picture

Even flipping a coin is the outsourcing of the risk/reward decision making process.

TruthInSunshine's picture

Just get Faux News, CommunalNewsNetwork, MSNBS & the rest of the Lame Stream Media Proxy to report on a planted story of "terrists" BBQing organ meats on the border, getting ready to spread out en masse & attack Red Robbins, Chipotles, The Mall of America, Apple Stores & New York City.

Dress them in dish towels & have them eat calf liver while proclaiming it is human liver on camera, and use dancing Israeli film crews to capture the whole thing and upload it to Instagram.

knukles's picture

"I'm having a friend for dinner"
        - Hannibal Lecter

turnoffthewater's picture

Big O is having Reggie for dinner and wookie gets desert

Shad_ow's picture

Amazing how many are ignorant of this fact.  All essential staff stay on the job but that wouldn't scare the sheep if they knew.  That wouldn't get the budget raise and the bonuses lined up for the statists.

Sudden Debt's picture

The dollar is set to rally 15 to 20% in the next 3 months.

That alone will be like a big terrorist attack against the American economy to which no service of the state can defend the country.

America will be totally priced out of the markets and this summer we’ll see a massive crash of the system.

other countries will profit from it in a big way and America wilk be painted in a corner, and that’s when the Abe techniques will be tried to devalue the dollar by printing faster and faster.

look at what happened to Japan in the last 20 years and expect the same to happen in America but at 10 times the speed.

And that’s going to crash commodity prices all across the board in dollar terms which will cripple the mining secotr creating shortages of a lot of commodities in the next 6 to 8 months.

 

Oldwood's picture

There are plenty of folks here who suspect virtually everything as a false flag. Conservatives pushing for this battle with Obama will lose.

Firstly, regardless of outcome, the media will portray everything and anything even slightly negative as the result of Republicans blatant disregard for America's safety.

Secondly, this could provide the death blow to the conservative movement as I THINK those intent on tyranny will stoop to any level to achieve their goals, meaning that they will likely perpetrate a false flag attack on America that they will directly blame republicans. This is a high stakes game and as we have seen becoming ever more blatant, the transparency of this will not deter them.

They intend on taking it all, and not from a frontal attack, likely from our flank, or knowing Obama, most likely the rear.

cro_maat's picture

I walk through Grand Central (NYC) every morning on my way to work. Today I saw 4 DHS "Police" with automatic weapons. This is the first time they have made an appearance in Grand Central. We have on any given day: NYC police, NYC transit police, NY State police and U.S. Army soldiers with machine pistols (generally about 8 on duty daily) but I have never seen these brown shirt SS DHS nazis before. I think they were scouting the FF opportunities to maximize their leverage.

Oldwood's picture

Few realize the critical mass of potentialities we face. So many refer to the "black swan" event like it is some type of coincidence that will set things in motion. Does anyone think that so many fragilities can exist so accidentally? And does anyone think that those who have worked so hard to put all of this in place would rely on luck to see it through? Gun control and now internet control, all things coming into place, stacked against world financial collapse and multiple wars. Disasters everywhere yet downplayed by media, minimized by government, until the time is at hand. Coincidence, black swan, my ass.

El Vaquero's picture

Connecticut has already shown that gun control is a non-starter in these times. 

Oldwood's picture

In a country awash in laws and regulations, those who resist will be outlaws. The possession of cash or a gun in the wrong place at the wrong time will place you outside of the law. It was always a problem in some areas, but it has gone national. NSA is collecting metadata on everything and besides the fact that they can identify and track every movement, more importantly they have become the arbiters of fact, for who would ever be able to deny them, to refute any claims they might bring against us? They and only they will have access to the TRUTH, as they define it and declare it. IF they say you purchased a gun and IF they say you made threats on the internet....who the fuck is any of us to argue?