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China Just Sided With Russia Over The Ukraine Conflict

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When it comes to the Ukraine proxy war, which started in earnest just about one year ago with the violent coup that overthrew then president Yanukovich and replaced him with a local pro-US oligarch, there has been no ambiguity who the key actors were: on the left, we had the west, personified by the US, the European Union, and NATO in general; while on the right we had Russia. In fact, if there was any confusion, it was about the role of that other "elephant in the room" - China.

To be sure, a question few asked throughout the Ukraine civil war is just whose side is China leaning toward. After all the precarious balance of power between NATO and Russia had resulted in a stalemate in which neither side has an obvious advantage (even as the Ukraine economy died, and its currency hyperinflated, waiting for a clear winner), and the explicit or implicit support of China to either camp would make all the difference in the world, not to mention the world's most formidable axis.

Today we finally got the answer, and the winner is... this guy:

Xinhua reported that late on Thursday Qu Xing, China's ambassador to Belgium, was quoted as blaming competition between Russia and the West for the Ukraine crisis, urging Western powers to "abandon the zero-sum mentality" with Russia.

Cited by Reuters, Xing said that Western powers should take into consideration Russia's legitimate security concerns over Ukraine.

Reuters' assessment of Xing speech: "an unusually frank and open display of support for Moscow's position in the crisis."

At least it is not a warning to the US to back off or else. Yet.

Speaking in very clear and explicit language, something diplomats are not used to doing, the Chinese ambassador said the "nature and root cause" of the crisis was the "game" between Russia and Western powers, including the United States and the European Union.

He said external intervention by different powers accelerated the crisis and warned that Moscow would feel it was being treated unfairly if the West did not change its approach.

 

"The West should abandon the zero-sum mentality, and take the real security concerns of Russia into consideration," Qu was quoted as saying.

 

His comments were an unusually public show of understanding from China for the Russian position. China and Russia see eye-to-eye on many international diplomatic issues but Beijing has generally not been so willing to back Russia over Ukraine.

As noted above, China has long been very cautious not to be drawn into the struggle between Russia and the West over Ukraine's future, not wanting to alienate a key ally. And yet, something changed overnight, with this very clear language, warning some could say, that China will no longer tolerate Pax Americana, and even the mere assumption of a unipolar western world, let alone the reality.

Qu's comments take place just as talks between the United States and its European allies over harsher sanctions against Moscow.

On Monday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov accused Western powers of trying to dominate and impose their ideology on the rest of world. The United States and European delegations slammed Moscow for supporting rebels in eastern Ukraine.

 

Qu said Washington's involvement in Ukraine could "become a distraction in its foreign policy".

And then, Qu's slap in the face of Obama: "The United States is unwilling to see its presence in any part of the world being weakened, but the fact is its resources are limited, and it will be to some extent hard work to sustain its influence in external affairs."

Especially if and when China decides to send a few peacekeepers of its own into Ukraine. You know - just to make sure US influence in external affairs isn't "sustained" too much.

 

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Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:50 | 5836383 Not Too Important
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How many parts for American weapons systems come from China? I heard more than anyone would like to admit.

And everyone is now an expert on installing spyware on just about everything electronic. Does that include off switches?

I'm not sold on the USS Cook thing, but I wouldn't be quick to eliminate it, either. If true, at what point would it render a carrier task force naked? Not good for morale there . . .

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:25 | 5836512 XRAYD
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Its is not how many, but their quality!  Lots of plane in the US are flying around with fake cheaper parts!

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:52 | 5836936 jerry_theking_lawler
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It's a test to tell the US, fuck with us, then we will Jam and the Dong Feng 21 you....

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:35 | 5836322 Winston Churchill
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Have you seen the recent retail sales figures ?

J6P can't even afford Chinese crap anymore.

I think the Chinese might have noticed, so what difference,at this point,does it make ?.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 18:59 | 5837336 Not Too Important
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What was it someone said on another thread? The US middle class can't afford to buy what the bulk of the Fortune 500 makes/provides.

Certainly the poor can't.

99% of the population can't afford the majority of what is made/serviced here. How is that supposed to work?

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:45 | 5836359 FreeShitter
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You mean USSA

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:37 | 5836571 lakecity55
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"When Bullets are Outlawed, only Hussein will have Bullets!"

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:48 | 5836374 Berspankme
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EU has been bigger customer than US for a number of years.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:55 | 5836402 realWhiteNight123129
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The Check is bouncing. China stopped doing vendor Financing in 2013, that is the amount of TSYs in custodial account has stopped increasing, yet the trade deficit has continued against China, that is why the Fed is forced to buy TSYs otherwise the yields would shoot up. Greenspan is correct, the Fed is forcing yield down as opposed to China gobbling up US paper.

China is pushing its trade outside of EU and USA, they know they can not grow out of broker customers.

 

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:21 | 5836487 yogibear
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More like the US needs China.

The US even moved it's chip fabrication there. 

Pretty much China can dictate to the US.

Oh, look Obama is bowing down to China

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/11/once-again-obama-bows-to-chinese...

 

 

 

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:43 | 5836593 sun tzu
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China is still the USA best customer of debt. Besides, where will the sheeple get their next new and best iphones and flatscreen idiot boxes?

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:04 | 5836683 LawsofPhysics
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China doesn't need to make threats asshat, they have a key to the fucking treasury.  What a moron.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:31 | 5836300 Itchy and Scratchy
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Well done Asst Sec of State Victoria (Toria) Jane Nuland (nee: Nudleman) Kagan! Sign her up for a Nobel!

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:37 | 5836318 knukles
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What does it matter anymore, when all she said was "Fuck the EU" and that's what the EU's getting.  Squeezed in the middle of a Super-power super power struggle.

Anyway, who really does care?  The EU could just abandon all the US's presences and go for it's own best interests (Whatever those might be.  Don't ask me, I'm not an EU'r, a.k.a. fuckee)

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:37 | 5836334 Winston Churchill
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As was the intention all along.

But on the bright side, Uncle Scam didn't just nuke europe,yet.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:49 | 5836380 knukles
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Ungrateful Eurotrash

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:40 | 5836581 Not Too Important
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Wait till someone intercepts/fakes the next Nuland call: "Fuck China!"

Then things will really get hopping.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:42 | 5836348 Itchy and Scratchy
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This looks bigger than a bread basket. China seldom/never takes a political position or allegience ... not until this mindless self serving neocon agitated proceedings!

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:51 | 5836387 Not Too Important
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The Chinese will never, EVER, forget the Opium Wars. Payback is a MF.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:19 | 5836475 pupdog1
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To the Chinese, 100 years is considered short term memory.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:36 | 5836325 DutchBoy2015
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I like Russians and Chinese.

I despise KIKES and AmeriCUNTS

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:36 | 5836326 Civilizedworm
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Well then...

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:37 | 5836329 ForWhomTheTollBuilds
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Better now than later.  We know the Neo-cons aren't gonna back off.  Ever.  But maybe this will give the cooler heads in Europe a chance to think about developing their own independent foreign policies.

 

My nightmare scenario has always been:  US openly sends troops, Russia openly sends troops, now NATO troops are killing Russians in country that NATO has marked for membership and so the fighting obviously immediately spills over into Poland etc.  Only THEN does China announce its on Russia's side and then our idiot leaders have to figure out how to escalate the situation.

 

Maybe this foolish adventure can yet be ended?

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:39 | 5836341 Winston Churchill
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Never met any psychopaths have you ?

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:44 | 5836355 ForWhomTheTollBuilds
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Truthfully, I waver between thinking psychopaths dont really exist and that they are everywhere among us in large numbers. 

 

Just reading today about the ISIS thugs going through museums in Iraq to destroy artifacts.  I sometimes like to people watch here at home and wonder who among my neighbors or childhood school friends would gladly sign up for such a job right here if it were offered to them.

 

Most common people don't seem to have any control over their own minds.  So are most of them really good or evil whatever their actions?

 

Good times...

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:06 | 5836436 Not Too Important
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According to the largest study of psychopaths done, the number is 6% of the population is psychopathic.

The problem is, they tend to rise to the top of our various business and governmental sectors, and now, after centuries of both natural ascencion and selective breeding for this trait in certain family bloodlines, they rule the Western world.

It sounds to me like the Chinese - and Russians and many dozens of other, smaller countries - don't want them in their lives anymore, and are getting progressively more adamant about it.

Of course, we know psychopaths don't like being told to leave the party and stay away . . .

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 23:25 | 5838364 MEAN BUSINESS
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Are you aware that "China+77" is actually today China and 134?

YOU probably are : ) So that's almost twelve dozen! 

Ya, and they issued a scathing statement regarding the bullshit Evo Morales was subjected to while flying home from Russia on the Bolivian presidential jet during the Snowden travels?

Yeah. And Evo Morales spoke on behalf of "China+77" at the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change CMP10 just last December in Peru? Yeah, he said stuff.

And they're all on the road to Paris to sign a big deal on emissions this December? That'll be the PARTY!!! Woo Hoo!

Not that it's too important.

Nah. ; )

 

+1 Not Too Important : )

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:51 | 5836386 knukles
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Yes.
Don't go out of your way.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 18:13 | 5837051 Itchy and Scratchy
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Gud 1!

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:40 | 5836343 DutchBoy2015
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China can send a few milllion spare troops very easily

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:48 | 5836612 Stumpy4516
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Minor plays on words and photo opps are meaningless.  NATO countries will send troops even if NATO does not for now.  Russia will not openly or otherwise send officail troops.  Volunteers maybe or noncombat advisors.  Poland already has sent in personnel and has been involved in some fighting if you believe some reports. 

China will not directly engage on behalf of Russia.  China has seen how Russia/Putin betrays so call friends and allies.  If Russia falls again then China will do business with the new owners. 

This foolish adventrue would never have started if Russia had taken a stand in Serbia, Iraq, Libya or Syria.  Talk and photo's are meaningless when the other side is actually advancing and dropping bombs.  When is Putin going to initiate bombing missions to support Assad, never.  Will Putin bomb the WfUke's when they advance again, no.  Will Putin conduct joint military drills witht he EUke's as NATO does with the WUke's, no. 

ZH is filled with Baghdad Bob's who hype scary Putin and ignore the actual events.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:37 | 5836333 Duc888
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Hey, since "NATO"  and the State dept are seemingly foaming at the mouth to start a war.  Let them, ship the whole State dept over to the front lines right next to "NATO" and let them poke the Bear.

 

 

 

Under one condition, not a penny more to be spent from USA and not one single troop, soldier or sailor to be rotated over there.

 

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:08 | 5836443 tsuki
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I would pay for view a Lavrov/Kerry cage match.  Tables, ladders and chairs, oh my.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:18 | 5836471 Armed Resistance
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Kerry's face already looks like he took the beating...

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:45 | 5836600 Not Too Important
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Somebody out there is allowed to beat these guys. Don't know who, but it's always the same - a good right swing into someone's left eye. I can't even imagine what Reid did to take the beating he did, that was nasty.

I suspect these guys all say they want to retire. There's no retiring when you've sold your soul to demons.

 

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:19 | 5836474 Volkodav
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More than a purple heart...

Lavrov is Armenian/Russian blood.

 

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:40 | 5836340 Kaiser Sousa
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"you've been punked..."

step the fuck off u banker controlled bitch ass US government....

ps: why ya'll trying so hard to keep Silver  and Gold contained...bunch of bitches...

 

 

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:41 | 5836347 Joe Tierney
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Sooooo,

 

I guess we could go ahead and call this development a chink in NATO's armour, heh?

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:30 | 5836539 Joe Plane
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”Nato exists to manage the risks created by its existence”

Found this phrase here

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/feb/19/frontline-ukraine-crisis-in...

 

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:42 | 5836350 1stepcloser
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better up the pentagon budget......LOL

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:46 | 5836366 Mike Masr
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Fuck Barry and as Victoria Nuland says, Fuck the EU! Hoping the gas is turned off on Monday! 

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:47 | 5836369 koreangold
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Isolated.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:11 | 5836448 Volkodav
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Da   I have wonder to see

When the exceptional from their malice

find themselves alone in real

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:47 | 5836372 Mike Masr
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Russia and China are the founding member states of The Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) an intergovernmental economic and military alliance of mutual security.

Shanghai Cooperation Organization Forces:

Active personnel 5,325,000
Reserve personnel 7,675,000
Available personnel for immediate activation and Conscription 192,039,958

Total of personnel 205,039,958

The economic and numerical might of China, together with the military prowess and vast nuclear arsenal of Russia.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:07 | 5836440 Not Too Important
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How many gays and transexuals does that 205,039,958 include?

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:13 | 5836748 Not Too Important
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There are very good reasons not to allow gays and transexuals in the military, and they have nothing to do with problems in the showers or foxholes. Oh, there might be a few good gay people, but the majority are queens - real, serious trouble.

 

Sat, 02/28/2015 - 00:36 | 5838527 Cornfedbloodstool
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I cant see why the down votes. I am pissing myself laughing!

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:49 | 5836375 cowdiddly
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Ok that does it, we are bumping it up to 76 troops.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:01 | 5836420 Winston Churchill
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Male it 152 boots on the ground,sounds bigger.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:11 | 5836449 HowdyDoody
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75 boots was, well, just odd.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:52 | 5836627 Parrotile
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One member of the Force was known as Jake the Peg (with his extra leg) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_the_Peg

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 15:59 | 5836414 Jethro
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Not to worry, all a part of Obama's "flexibility" after the second election.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:00 | 5836417 396
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If Russia and China are considering world leaders to fuck over. Please make sure that Canadian PM Steven Harper (Israeli fister) gets a telephone pole up the ass.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:13 | 5836451 HowdyDoody
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It would be easier to list which western 'leaders' don't deserve a telegraph pole / nailgun appointment.

Orban of Hungary?

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 18:03 | 5836985 talisman
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don't make this offer to Obama--he might jump on it

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:01 | 5836419 Miss Expectations
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Somebody should maybe mind their P's and Qu's.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:02 | 5836421 Jack Daniels Esq
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Obama is a dumb black muslim - period

Sat, 02/28/2015 - 10:28 | 5839199 americanreality
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I don't think he is either of those things.  Bought and paid for, sure, but you just make yourself look stupid by claiming crap like this.  Of course you are being paid to look stupid and influence opinions, so..  

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:02 | 5836422 Jonesy
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At least the US still has it's greatest ally, Israel.  LMAO!!!

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:03 | 5836430 sudzee
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The days of controlling paper everything with worthless printed debt are comin to an end. Western c/b's, using supposed US military might, are now spread so thin they are loosing every battle. Those countries who actually produce goods, rather than phoney paper, will finally get their deserved respect.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:32 | 5836551 Dr. Engali
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They're losing that trillion dollars due to the fed's printing.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:07 | 5836438 In.Sip.ient
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Sound to me like America's biggest creditor is sending out

a pretty clear message.

 

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:22 | 5836496 Joe A
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Well, MR. Panos message about Greece's debt also applies to China. What is China going to do? Send the debt collector? Dump US treasuries and lose 1 trillion dollars themselves?

I don't see how one Chinese ambassador's message can be seen als China's policy.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:47 | 5836610 Not Too Important
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Move to a gold-backed Yuan and that trillion USD loss means absolutely nothing. Nothing at all.

Sat, 02/28/2015 - 02:49 | 5838736 Joe A
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And who is then going to buy their products? The Russians? The Eurasian block? Many in Asia distrust or evenly outright hate China.

China can only move away from Western markets when they have found replacement markets for their production. Their inner market is not big enought to handle that because of....well.....you know....communism.

The Chinese leadership would not blink their eyes to starve large parts of their population but what China fears the most are the hungry masses without anything to lose marching towards Beijing.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:14 | 5836457 forputin
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Putin tricked everyone! He is winning! Just anounced that Russia is ready to sell it's oil fields to China, so that China controls Russia natrual reasources! Yes! Now thos westerners will see how we tricked them! In their face!

Russia to mull allowing China over 50 percent stake in strategic oil, gas fields - TASS

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/russia-mull-allowing-china-over-50-percent-stake-055247232--finance.html#VS4ppTv

 

Also Putin is smart because he is selling and giving away Russian land to China:

China Eyes Land Giveaway Program in Russia’s Far East

Despite Russian concerns, Chinese media predict a new “homestead act” will boost Chinese migration to the Far East.

http://thediplomat.com/2015/01/china-eyes-land-giveaway-program-in-russias-far-east/ 

China artfully steals Russia's land

http://english.pravda.ru/russia/politics/27-04-2011/117716-china_russia-0/

 

So this is smart - Putin gives away Russian energy and land! Yes! Putin smarter than west. This will make us stronger!

 

I think Putin is doing all right! We should not have hospitals for children and other public building in health sector in normal conditions if we can invest in war machine! We must kill all those fascists that stand in our way to get back to USSR borders!!

http://youtu.be/pHBzZisIuGs

So this is only Ukie lies - these decisions are right!

That last video material is about St. Petersburg hospital where you must take your shit in that bowl and than together with other patiants drown it in that toilet like thing. Yes, it's maybe unconfortable to stand in line with your shit in your hand and it could be smelly when all those bowls where there whole night - but hey! We must be doing this to have money for rockets and tanks!

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:21 | 5836477 Jonesy
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Putin is a stud, say goodbye to the Jew World Order.  He'll get back anything he gives, and more, when Russia and China split up the US in 10 or 15 years.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:22 | 5836495 forputin
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Yes! I know! That is what I'm saying all the time - Putin is smart and Putin is winning! Thank God... no Thank our Putin we have information sources where truth comes out. Such as: Russia Today, Rossija24, Sputnik, Pravda, LifeNEWS (russian), etc. Russian media brings truth to us - we must thank Putin! So go ahead and thank him!

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:29 | 5836530 Jonesy
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Working kinda late on a Friday for a Hasbara, aren't you?  It's 10:40pm in Israel.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:30 | 5836540 Volkodav
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Russia Today is elegant

others arrive strong taking away audience from msm.... 

Kerry wants more money

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:34 | 5836558 forputin
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They all: Russia Today, Rossija24, Sputnik, Pravda, LifeNEWS (russian) are elegant bringers of truth! Thanks to Putin! He done this!

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:32 | 5836548 ForWhomTheTollBuilds
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"....Pravda..."

 

John Mcain wrote an open letter to the Russian people telling them that they are ruled by a paranoid lunatic who doesn't allow dissent, but that they would never be allowed to read it because of their controlled press.

 

He sent the letter straight to Pravda to prove his point about it being unpublishable.  They then published it.

 

True story

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:35 | 5836562 forputin
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That is what I'm saying Pravda has brought truth from beginning:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pravda#mediaviewer/File:%D0%9F%D0%A0%D0%90%...

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:02 | 5836670 Max Steel
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TROLLOL ON ROLL

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:05 | 5836671 Max Steel
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Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:06 | 5836672 Max Steel
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Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:56 | 5836641 Not Too Important
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No one will be splitting up the US, at any time. The US is thoroughly contaminated with Fukushima radiation, getting worse by the day after almost 4 years of no containment whatsoever, with more to come from our own domestic failing NPP's. No one wants to 'take over' Japan, and no one wants to 'take over' the US. No country on Earth wants to take over the EBT card crowd, especially if they're all dying from leukemia.

The US is going to be bled dry by multitudes of losing military actions, until there is nothing left. The US - all of North America - is becoming a radioactive hollowed-out shell of a former Republic.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:33 | 5836861 forputin
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Yes! This is future!

http://youtu.be/pHBzZisIuGs

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:48 | 5836917 pendragon
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keep up the good work.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 20:24 | 5837765 Element
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the battle of the putin trolls shifts up a gear ...

Sat, 02/28/2015 - 07:15 | 5838940 Max Steel
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BATTLE WITH WHOM ? USA AN EXCEPTIONAL NATION JIZPOTS ? IGNORANT YANKS .

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:27 | 5836521 Volkodav
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hard work, learning basic trolling....

too bad nobody will ever care...

get lost goat      life is short

 

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:22 | 5836494 fremannx
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One step closer to Gorbachev's warning of nuclear conflict over Ukraine? Which NATO trigger finger will flinch first?

http://www.globaldeflationnews.com/gorbachev-warns-of-major-war-even-nuc...

 

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:27 | 5836502 yogibear
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LOL, 

Look at Obama bowing down to China.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/obama-hu-bow.jpg

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/11/once-again-obama-bows-to-chinese...

Obama knows who his masters are.

If China tells Barry to lick Putin's shoes don't be surprised to see it.

 

 

 

 

 

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:05 | 5836687 forputin
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Yes, that is not the way you behave to China - it should be more like this:

https://twitter.com/uanatolegion/status/571319081028198400/photo/1

Our leader know better! He is the best!

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:32 | 5836529 Hannibal
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Ukraine Prepares for an Attack Against Russia 2-27-15
By: Eric Zuesse The post-coup leaders of Ukraine have routinely said that Ukraine should destroy Russia; and, now, starting on February 24th, they are placing into position the key prerequisite for doing so, which is the advanced Anti-Ballistic-Missile, or ABM, system, S-300, which is described as follows by wikipedia “The S-300 is regarded as one of the most potent anti-aircraft missile systems currently fielded.[3] Its radars have the ability to simultaneously track up to 100 targets while engaging up to 12/24/36 targets. The S-300 deployment time is five minutes.[3] The S-300 missiles are sealed rounds and require no maintenance over their lifetime. An evolved version of the S-300 system is the S-400 (NATO reporting name SA-21 Growler), which entered limited service in 2004.” http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/02/ukraine-prepares-for-attack-against...
Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:38 | 5836574 forputin
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Yes! Ukraine is aggresor! Just look at the map.. look at this! Putin must act before that giant aggresor has not occupied whole Russian Federation! Putin must attck Ukraine with full swing not just like it's now with limited force. But attack and kill those ukranians before they kill all Russian Federation! Just look at the map people! You will see aggresor!

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:44 | 5836598 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Guy is trolling hard for potato. Makes sense to do so before potatoes also fall under Kiev food rationing.

http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/02/partial-food-rationing-introduced-i...

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:54 | 5836636 pendragon
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defo working for the ukies

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:31 | 5836541 JRobby
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I'll take "World Wars" for $400 Alex

"This happens when everyone is sick of the bankster oligrchs running the world"

"What is World War III" Alex

Correct for $400!

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:31 | 5836542 forputin
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F*cking ukies! Bi*ches! They killed our guy!!! F*ck!!! Our Russian Federation colnel!

https://twitter.com/forest_brother/status/571394512116776960

Bastards!

 

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:32 | 5836547 Yen Cross
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   Blub...Blub...Blub goes $usd as ponzified, over~levered "Yellen Bux" transfers from equities into bonds. As yields sink so shall the $usd carry interest for BoJ, ECB, SNB, ect.

   Just because money flows into UST, it doesn't mean traders are buying $USD to gain access. (exchange conversion) The U.S. equity markets are so over funded with foreign cash, that it will be a simple transfer from one medium of risk to another. ;-)

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:50 | 5836615 Itch
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Hey bud, what's it like being so fucking demented, it must be bliss, no?

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:53 | 5836634 Yen Cross
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 It's refreshing...

 I get to wake up and think for myself every single morning. I get to take responsibility for my actions, and explore humility.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:58 | 5836647 Not Too Important
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Then clearly, you are a domestic terrorist. Please report yourself immediately.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:59 | 5836653 Itch
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You get all that from just being demented, i must give it a go. Seriously though, why do you talk so much shit?

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:09 | 5836715 Yen Cross
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      One persons "shit" is another persons gold. The beauty of wisdom, is being able to USE shit and turn it into gold.

 Hugs & Kisses Itch ;-)

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:49 | 5836923 Not Too Important
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That sure worked for the Armenians in LA. Man, those guys have done well with other people's 'shit'.

The trash guys'll drive a wreck to work, make people think it's not a lucrative business, then go home and park that wreck next to the couple of Mercedes in the garage of their mansions.

Never bring up Turkey in conversation, though . . .

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 18:12 | 5837041 Yen Cross
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   It's a travesty when a perfectly good "bankster" gets hosed.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:39 | 5836577 wannahope
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Is this what Obama meant when he was talking about change. This should change the eitire picture. Maybe Obama will get a seat in the Russian/ China cabinet. They can all play together.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:42 | 5836587 Allkemisti
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Well, Pro-Putin Zero-fucking-assess again, this site should be called novorossia, for fucks sake !

Are you pro communist fucks really this stupid ?  Putin is your hero ? Really ? Go fuck yourselfs !

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:50 | 5836620 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Are you pro communist fucks really this stupid ?

Living in the past much? Sounds like Latvian recruit in Kiev Kartofel Korps.

Russians kicked out bolsheviks, seems they landed in US of A and other 'american' countries. Funny that this Allkemisti guy welcomes them back.

 

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:16 | 5836656 Not Too Important
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One of the biggest mistakes anyone can make is to not understand who the Communist Bolsheviks were.

60 million dead Russian and Eastern European Christians did.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:30 | 5836846 Mike Masr
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You are absolutely correct on that. I am of Kuban Cossack ancestry. Communists are shit and Russia is free of them. Putin is no commie, yet people in the West cannot relate to capitalist Orthodox Christian Russians. The mindset is Russian = Commie. Much the same way Amrican movies about WW2 make you think German = Nazi. 

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:55 | 5836951 Not Too Important
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The reason a lot of 'innocent' Germans joined in with the Nazis is because Germans were all Christians, and they were watching what the Communists were doing next door. The lesser of two evils. Not to excuse what Hitler did, but the daily horrors of Soviet life for Christians was unimaginably evil.

There is still a war against Christians, and they're losing bad. There's a reason killers are being spread through Christian countries - all in the name of 'humanitarianism'.

Bullshit, it's bringing in killers to cleanse the areas of Christians. Might not be overnight, but the setup is taking place.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 19:18 | 5837415 Volkodav
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Kuban Cossack Choir  "You Tricked Me"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdPvaIXxm4Q

Lovely aren't they?

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:21 | 5836789 yogibear
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The pro communist old Socialist guard love Obama.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:58 | 5836964 Not Too Important
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You're talking about the Trotskyites, and they don't give a shit about Obama, they love who he works for.

Stalin lost that battle.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:27 | 5836824 Gadfly
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Get a brain. Then do some reading.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 20:40 | 5837828 Savyindallas
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I guess our heroes should be the coke addicts sex perverts we keep electing in Amerika like Clinton, Bush, Obama, and likey Hillery and Jeb Bush to follow. All Zio-Bankster whores  -they can't take a shit without getting permission from their zio-installed handlers. Putin looks real good compared to these assclowms.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:45 | 5836601 SillyWabbits
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With the AIPAC meeting, wouldn’t you think these international incidents would diminish?

Isn’t Netanyahu a man of peace and AIPAC a group of pacifists?

AIPAC meets this weekend (3/1-3/3) and Netanyahu speaks to Congress on 3/3.  So, he goes directly from a conference intended solely for the benefit of Israel and then on to the Congress.  Where exactly does Netanyahu change his Yarmulke for a baseball hat?

Well, he doesn’t have to.  And he shouldn’t!

AIPAC operates internationally and the Congress operates nationally.

Mr. Netanyahu represents a position that is uniquely Israeli.

AIPAC and Netanyahu have exactly the same myopic view of the world.

 They represent a single bloodline: we are a multicultural society. He and they are not one of us.  They should not dress as we do, but as their unique culture requires they do.

In that fashion, we would all see for whom he speaks.

It would be the honest thing to do.

Don’t we have a truth in advertising law in America?

The same law should apply to truth in advocating!

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:12 | 5836742 litemine
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Truth in Advertizing?  Hell.....There is lies allowed in America's News. That is just Wrong, and this was exported to Canada in 2010 via Harper.  Just wait till TPP becomes law and Companies have more Rights than Countries. No wonder the deal is behind closed doors.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 18:01 | 5836978 SirBarksAlot
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Wait. Isn't March 3 Purim?

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:45 | 5836602 Itch
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How much more cheap gas can they get for saying this? If i was China i would be telling to Putin the sun shines out of his hole... just keep pumping that gas our way like a good KGB dwarf, then you can fuck off and pick a fight with NATO.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 16:57 | 5836643 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Might want to queue up for the food rationing while you're trolling.

http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/02/partial-food-rationing-introduced-i...

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:11 | 5836720 Itch
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Russia could give them a few hard-won lessons in that respect. But when push comes to shove, trying to fight off a expansionist KGB mafia was always going to come with it's sacrifices. I hope they are strong enough, because eventually we can turn our backs on this little psychopath and welcome Ukraine into the progressive bosom of Europe where it belongs. We will even build them an Ikea.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:59 | 5836972 SirBarksAlot
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I could be wrong, but I think the Ukrainians have had enough of your "bosom."

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 19:07 | 5837378 Volkodav
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Europe will get the pollacks, that's all....

 

 

 

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 20:07 | 5837698 dsty
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nope

pollacks pissed of the rooskies too much

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:05 | 5836685 NuYawkFrankie
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Paging Victoria Nudelman..... Paging Victoria Noodleman.....

 

Fire up Broomstick I for fortune-cookie (+ coded-message) drop over China:

"If to Wussia you don't go, Vicki plomiss you a blow"

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:22 | 5836803 yogibear
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Victoria Nukeland would have no problem starting another big war.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 20:35 | 5837810 lotsoffun
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hillary backs her.  they don't care about humanity or nukes.  they expect to be safe from them.  obama might have to give up above ground golf (in his mind), but he doesn't realize, he works for those bitches first, and then for their lords above them, because the real lords knew the bitches won't get elected, but will do the bidding.

obama is really the dumbest of the whole bunch, he is the complete mouth piece.  amazing. manchurian candidate was foresight.

 

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 22:37 | 5838247 Anunnaki
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The Cookie Monster is leadIng the pack for Sec'y of State in both a Shrillary or Jeb cabinet

Tweedledum or Tweedledummer

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:10 | 5836707 Vinividivinci
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I'll take Putin as a leader anyday.
At least Russians know where he stands and they know their limits, what they can and can't say or do. They live hard lives in Russia but their not lied to and manipulated like bath house Barry and little Stevie in Kanada.
Putin doesnt bullshit, ie; you can keep your doctor, you can keep your Internet, etc...
Obomer, the closet homosexual, closet Islamist, crack whore, manipulator, etc...
Citizens are like children, they need to know the boundaries, they like discipline and honesty.
If that makes me a commie, Putin's kind of commie, then so be it !

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:12 | 5836737 asophocles
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What China most needs right now - in the throes of its own hard landing - is to be bailing out Russia.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:32 | 5836812 NuYawkFrankie
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re What China most needs right now...

is a really good five-cent fortune-cookie

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:25 | 5836817 q99x2
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Down with the NWO and fascism. Down with anticompetitive behavior. To hell with diversity. Reinstate family order and rebuke the inheritance laws. Arrest the queens with the cloven hooves. Rejoice in the lands of the Q99x2.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:30 | 5836848 sudzee
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EU sanctions on Russia has a lot to do with China. The EU is terrified of the loss of energy from Russia. The euasian group may soon include Saudi Arabia. SA and Iran which is already a member could coceivably control all Gulf energy. So if gulf energy is cut and Russian production goes to China the EU dies. Syria was to be easy access to the EU for gulf energy. The US has so far failed to deliver Syria to both the EU and gulf producers. Russian support for Assad is pissing everyone off. Expect China to soon weigh in on the Syrian situation. Failure of the US to overthrow Assad will be the end of "the empire". Russia and China will prevail. Brent/wti spread at 25% is proof enough that the US and EU have lost the battle to bring Putin to his knees. 

Its sad to think about the millions murdered, millions injured, millions of refugees were the result of western central banks need to control humanity. Russia and China will finally bring peace to the ME. 

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 19:21 | 5837472 Element
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Russia and China will finally bring peace to the ME.

 

Ya see that zh? ... ya see what you've become? ... a fucking laughing stawk!

Sat, 02/28/2015 - 07:30 | 5838954 Max Steel
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EVEN TYLER CAN'T HELP WITH USERS LIKE YOU

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:37 | 5836856 Monetas
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I just came up with the torture .... for Jihadi John .... the Chinese torture of death by 1,000 cuts .... Mao used it on some of his bitches .... who made him feel less than a man .... it's hideous .... they cut away at your breast and inner thighs .... while you're tied to a stake .... there are fotos in wikipedia .... here's my twist .... we use heroic intervention .... to keep the condemned alive .... recollection of lost blood IVed back into his veins .... drugs, etc. .... whatever it takes to make him suffer .... then keep him alive in a Stalinesque crystal sarcaphocas .... for all his victim's families to scorn .... you could offer free cuts to the families .... and auction the rest to the highest bidders !

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:44 | 5836898 Yen Cross
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lol, How many Z/H monikers/avatars have you been through? 

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 18:10 | 5837027 Monetas
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Yen Baby, Thanks for noticing me .... first of all .... this is my second .... I was not being sneaky .... I used my other Email address .... and I didn't disguise myself, too much .... I told them I was a wiser and kinder poster .... that might have been stretching it .... anyway, I like to think I was missed .... did my penance .... and was welcomed back .... you missed me .... this avatar was rejected last time .... but the times they are a changing ! I'm worried about your drinking .... want to talk about it .... hahahahaha ! LOL Monedas 1929 Comedy Jihad World Tour

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 18:16 | 5837072 Yen Cross
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 May your inbox "NOT" be filled with inquiries from Middle Eastern and Asian inquiries. ;-)

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 18:38 | 5837217 dsty
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who says your avitar is accepted

how many perverts can one site host?

apparently a lot.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 19:29 | 5837510 Element
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not into sex huh?

or just not into sex with women?

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 20:10 | 5837718 dsty
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take a look again at the green avitar

a guy is being plowed by another guy

obama style

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 20:14 | 5837738 Element
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guy? ... with long hair ... and breasts ... yup, dude for sure.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 19:27 | 5837504 Element
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Weren't you always called Monetas though, or something almost the same as that? I remember your old avatar, some dude in a white coat.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 18:12 | 5837028 Monetas
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I'm still a computer illiterate ! DUP

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 18:24 | 5837117 dag
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Do your homework, Monetas, you make yourself look stupid

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:43 | 5836895 Chuck Knoblauch
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Obozo working with them to destroy America.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:46 | 5836905 Fix It Again Timmy
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Victoria Noodlebrain is trying to woo China, she's handing out Fortune Cookies to the Ukies.....Wow, what a State Dept. and we thought they were lame...!

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 18:15 | 5837062 Itchy and Scratchy
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Fortune cookies ....gud 1!

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:53 | 5836939 SirBarksAlot
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Upon further consideration, we have agreed to the ceasefire proposed by Mr. Putin.

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 17:54 | 5836943 trader1
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and....

Russian opposition politician and former deputy PM Boris Nemtsov shot dead on Moscow street - Russian media

Fri, 02/27/2015 - 18:16 | 5837066 trader1
Fri, 02/27/2015 - 18:24 | 5837114 SirBarksAlot
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So they're cancelling the staged protest?

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