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Caught On Tape: The Moment Boris Nemtsov Was Assassinated
As the world contemplates the various 'provocation' scenarios - a Russian act, a CIA act meant to look like a Russian act, or a Russian act meant to look like a CIA act? - the following clip suggests this was anything but an ad hoc shooting...
The narrator suggests, as Nemtsov and his companion are walking along the road, a garbage truck (or cleaning vehicle) is behind them. When the garbage truck comes alongside the couple, it slows down, then moves ahead, then stops... and another man leaves the vehicle and jumps in a following car, which speeds away with tires smoking...
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As Ukraineatwar blog concludes,
The video seems to be real, because the location EXACTLY fits the know murder spot. It does not seem likely that such a video could have been prepared in advance.
The murder EXACTLY takes place when the cleaning vehicle passes by. It is absolutely unclear where the assassin come from. Nobody can be seen walking towards or behind Nemtsov and his companion. Neither can somebody be seen walking to that specific spot to wait for them.
Therefore it seems very likely that the cleaning vehicle has something to do with it and the assassin could have traveled with the vehicle.
Since Nemtsov was shot from behind and the cleaning vehicle already caught up with them when the murder took place, it does not seem likely that the assassin traveled on the passenger seat next to the driver. He had to open and close the door and that may have drawn their attention. It seems likely that he had traveled on the back of the car. He could easily jump on and off and could also estimate if there were other people to close to them to do the operation at all at that moment.
Using a cleaning vehicle gives a lot of advantage: you can drive slowly, draw no attention, wait if necessary and thus pick exactly the right moment (with no other people nearby).
It does seem like the assassin had been following the couple already when he jumped on the vehicle. They may have crossed the road where the cleaning car was waiting. After seeing them pass by, it started entering the bridge. When they passed the assassin, he jumped on. In this way they could be sure that they had the right person AND they could pick the right moment without running to catch them up.
All the getaway car had to do was to wait until the cleaning vehicle got on the bridge, see the hit man jumped on and then get to follow from a distance to slowly catch up.
It all does look like a REALLY WELL orchestrated operation.
Totally weird is that there is no traffic at all behind them. Such a moment is very hard to pick, especially when you can see that there are many cars before the assassination moment. Right after the car picks up the assassin, new cars start arriving again. This indicates there had been some 'orchestration' here too. Either traffic lights had been red on all fronts or traffic had been halted in another way.
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Of course - while this seems very coordinated - one might question the fact that surely they would be aware that cameras would be everywhere?
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Questions remain, but Soviet ex-President Mikail Gorbachev is sure, the assassination of opposition politician Boris Nemtsov as an attempt to destabilize Russia. As Sputnik News reports,
"The assassination of Boris Nemtsov is an attempt to complicate the situation in the country, even to destabilize it by ratcheting up tensions between the government and the opposition,” Gorbachev said.
“Just who did this is hard to say, let’s not jump to any conclusions right now and give the investigators time to sort this all out,” he added.
Gorbachev did not rule out that the high-profile murder could encourage some people to urge the authorities to introduce a state of emergency, which he said would only exacerbate what is already a difficult situation.
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tinker tailor soldier spy
Worst movie I ever saw. Only The Homesman was worse.....
The 7 part TV series which preceeded the film was better. Alec Guinness at his best.
TV series actors: Alec Guinness as John le Carre's spymaster. With Bernard Hepton, Terence Rigby, Michael Aldridge, Ian Richardson, Alexander Knox, George Sewell, Ian Bannen, Michael Jayston, Nigel Stock, Anthony Bate and Hywel Bennett.
I did not know there was a series. I thought the film was great for personal reasons. I watched it 5 times and it got better each time. I watch it once a year. I'll have to try and find the series on cd.
It's on YouTube Lake - 6 parts, start here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLdp4kiuT-U
Smacker is right - Alec Guiness is great in this role.
the cinematic film was shite, i agree...
no one has asked the question, why did the shooter spare the girl?
and what role did the girl play in taking boris on this walk across the bridge at a time coincidentally of 11:30pm?
Nor have they asked the question "Why downtown? Why near the Kremlin and Red Square?
If the establishment wanted him out of the way, they had immeasurable time to kill him. Why not do it on the street where he lived?
Like the pair who threw acid in Sergei Filin's face. They weren't stupid enough to do their deed in Red Square or a heavily trafficked district of Moscow.
If the establishment wanted Nemtsov dead, they had all the time in the world to kill him quietly and make it look like a suicide like Vince Foster.
"If the establishment wanted Nemtsov dead, they had all the time in the world to kill him quietly and make it look like a suicide like Vince Foster."
Yes, this hit is very atypical of an establishment hit - they would have been much more subtle - an accident, or a suicide - not 4 bullets in the back. And certainly Putin had absolutely no reason to bring this kind of attention to him and his government - is he stupid? I think not.
Also, no one is asking this question:
What is up with that "secret club" handshake between Putin and Nemtsov back in 2010?
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-w13LILyvy3Y/VPIPdh1b7eI/AAAAAAAAO8w/ZpowLKWcT...
Note the position of Nemtsov's index finger.
Well "the establishment" quite publicly killed Litvinenko and almost killed Yuschenko...
But, those are other stories which don't quite fit this MO narrative...
In other words, the Nemtsov killing is the work of another team that may be "establishment", but not necessarily "the establishment"...
"The Phony Litvinenko Murder" William Dunkerley
Yuschenko No evidence direct or suspects ever found.
those close to him admit his
only media makes up stories for ignorant masses
Additional questions - A hit like this takes lots of advanced planning and coordination. How did they know he would be walking home that evening? How did they know he would be crossing this bridge at this time on this particular evening? The assassins were waiting for Nemtsov - they knew he would be walking home - is that usual for him? If the cleaning vehicle really does play a part in this, then it would have to be arranged in advance, which also indicates fore-knowledge of Nemtsov's route home that night. The lady he was escorting is a Ukrainian model - is this a coincidence? Did she have a part to play? Did she suggest they walk to his apartment, or was this his suggestion?
To me it seems Nemtsov was lured to his murder in a well-staged hit - and there was only one person who could do the luring at that time and at that location - the Ukrainian model.
So uh Boris, who is the "opposition"?
Communists, bankers, Oligarchs one in the same?
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It could have been a true false flag and it could have been a false false flag.
In any case it was the beginning of the power struggle beween fifth column and the silowiki.
http://staatsstreich.at/nemtsov-murder-wake-up-call-for-5th-column-or-th...
When the dash cam footage starts showing up, it'll be interesting to see how many times his 'girlfriend' checked over her shoulder. Girlfriend (no or few checks) or girlfiend (plenty).
Convenient for the shooter that there's no traffic from behind at the shot, so no dashcam footage. That wasn't a coincidence.
Everyone has dashcams in Russia....except that maintenance vehicle of course.
there are other cameras
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11441799/Boris-N...
Telegraph article translation: the UK media is doing the job required of it by the British State, ie: to blame it on Putin without a shred of evidence.
And sadly, they don't mention - if Putin now governs by terror - how it is that he enjoys a level of popular support in Russia that British politicians of all parties can only dream of.
And it's too bad that UK media didn't report the murders of Dr Kelly (Iraq WMD expert at risk of blowing the whistle on Tony Blair's fallacious claims that Saddam had WMD that could hit Britain in 45 minutes) and Gareth Williams (GCHQ/MI6 operative who risked blowing the whistle that the British State was fabricating "terror plots" in Britain to create fear and compliance across society). Both murders were far more likely to have been carried out by the British State than anybody else. As I understand it, such assassinations by the Britiah State require a "Section 7" authorisation document to be signed off by the relevant Minister. In these cases it would have been the Foreign Minister.
Well, now they know that plotting the violent overthrow of the Russian government will only succeed in getting them killed, Putin's opponents will have to play by the rules---run in a free and fair election, without free publicity from a bought and paid for MSM, and do the hard work of persuading Russians that they, the people who ran Russia into the ground in the Nineties, can govern Russia better than Putin.
Forgive me if I don't wish them luck with that one.
They really hate playing games they can't rig their way. Let them throw their tantrums in the bankster press. Me, I thank God there's at least one free nation in this tired old world.
The ___________(fill the the blank with any government or major spy organization) governs mostly through terror and propaganda. Any plot against Boris Nemtsov would have been known by them. They either killed him or tolerated his death.
You've got to come up with some better logic than that.
Seems to me there are three possible explanations for this well planned & executed assassination:
1. "...Soviet ex-President Mikail Gorbachev is sure, the assassination of opposition politician Boris Nemtsov as an attempt to destabilize Russia." This places the CIA or other shady Western agency in the frame.
2. Boris Nemtsov was an outspoken critic of Putin and an opposition rally was scheduled for the following day. This places Putin or his people in the frame.
3. It was one of the above but aimed at making it look like the other.
1. Boris Nemtsov http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Nemtsov
2. Anna Politkovskaya http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Politkovskaya
3. Alexander Litvinenko http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Litvinenko
4. Natalya Estemirova http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalya_Estemirova
5. Sergei Magnitsky http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Magnitsky
Boris Nemtsov murder: Putin now governs mostly through terror and propaganda Any plot against Boris Nemtsov would have been known by the Kremlin. Putin either killed him or tolerated his death
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11441799/Boris-N...
Repeating the fallacious claims in the UK Telegraph does not help matters.
"The Phony Litvinenko Murder" William Dunkerley
4. Russian natioanlists who considered Nemtsov a debauched traitor working in cahoots with the West to geld Russia and open the gate to Yeltsin style oligarchism and Multinational exploitation of Russian resources and markets
5. Ukrainian junta doiing another MH17 which led to the first round of harsh sanctions
Since the Ukis are so inept, i am leaning toward 4 over 5
I also quite like your option 4. But they would be supporters of Putin. No?
Yes and no smacker. There are elements in Russia who believe thatPutin has been too accomodating with Ukraine while Russians in the East are being, killed, raped and bombed with impunity
Nationalists could have done it it to send a message to Putin: either you take care of the 5th column or we will do it for you
Very good points, thanks.
I smell USSA NeoCON S.C.U.M.M*
The unmistakable stench of depravity is all-too familiar...
(*Satanic Cabal Underwriting Murder & Mayhem)
I think Kremlin elite won't tollerate this death threat to them from Putin side - I think this will be last year for Putin.
Our Latvian troll friend "viedoklis_lv" morphed into "freedom123" now morphed into "forputin".
Most interesting is that you support the fascist Poroshenko who probably can't even spell the word "freedom". And you have a vitriolic hatred of Putin. This makes your handles an exercise in deception.
{shrug}
what i think is going on is
1) Currently Iran/Syria are under control of Russia (they supply them arms ect)
forget what the media says, Israel has been happy with this agreement as it kept the balance of power stable in
the region ie US supports Saudis / Iraq ext ..so theres kind of a stalemate between Shia (backed by Russia)
Sunni (back by the US)
Obama is ant Israel, (yes its real) and hes trying to change the balance of power so that Iran/ Syria come under the US side..
This is bad for Russia and its bad for Israel...
Russia and Israel are moderate allies, they uderstand each other...
Obama is trying to allow the Arabs to unite and tip balance against Israel,
Russia and Israel are trying to keep the status quo
I am not sure whos right on wrong... thats whats happening..
If the US is trying to get Iran and Syria to come over to its side, they're not doing it by cosying up but by implied force. Recall Obola's plan to bomb Syria and long standing threats against Iran.
And where does the Qatar gas pipeline going across Syria come into your theory?
"Still no word from the garbage men?"
POF POF POF POF
The Moscow Job
Mmmm...... Putin already have majority popularity and support in Russia. Yeah, that's really logical for him to silent his opponent. Well, someone is getting desperate to trigger a war and try to sell protection to other countries. Why bother trying, it's so amatuer move.
And Martha Stewart was already a billionaire, but she engaged in a little insider trading for a couple of hundred grand. When it comes to sociopaths such as Putin, it's best to leave "logic" out of it. Don't forget, this former Soviet apparatchik KGB operative, the man who ordered the slaughter of tens of thousands in Chechen War II, was intimidated by a female rock group with a somewhat puerile-sounding moniker.
Are you so naive to think that changing the name from "Soviet" to "Russian" cleanses his vile soul and absolves him of all the crimes the regime---of which he was an integral and willing part---carried out? Do you think a leopard, even a freeze-dried miniature version like him, ever changes its spots?
Insider tip: Boris and Vlad were lovers.
Love defies reason: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZR5ywAFEdA
http://fortruss.blogspot.sg/2015/02/mikhail-delyagin-former-nemtsovs.html rest your ignorance
Meet the Chechens:
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2013/04/meet-chechens.html
You know nothing about this subject
Media dumb you down much?
Where can I buy life insurance on the driver of the snow cleaning truck?
http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150228/1018899791.html
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Another fake video from the ukies. Actually the girl told the investigation that the run away car was white, and yeah it has been already found near New Arbat. The car on the video is black
All we know for sure is a subversive Jew got popped.
Message in a bottle, for who?
From Pravda:
"...In 2009, Nemtsov and Kasparov met personally with Obama. They discussed anti-Putin tactics - regime change by any other name."
Story:
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/28-02-2015/129936-nemtsov_mu...
This murder is yet another chapter in:
"The Great Game" was a term for the strategic rivalry and conflict between the British Empire and the Russian Empire for supremacy in Central Asia.[1] The classic Great Game period is generally regarded as running approximately from the Russo-Persian Treaty of 1813 to the Anglo-Russian Convention of 1907. (wick-o-pedia).
Yet, the Great Game continues to this day. With the discovery of vast oil/gas fields in Azerbaijan through much of Central Asia to Turkmenistan, possession of these resources takes on even more importance.
Horrendous financial pressures are building in the West. How could the PTB not overlook the vast resources to be looted...if only Russia was compliant and did not object to the exploitation of these resources by The West?
If only Russia was compliant and not independent...
Let's step back a moment. None of the general picture is too hard to explain.
Once the world was proven round and the European navigators began exploring, the British, an isolated island nation, sent out its ships to catalog the Earth and its Resources.
The British Empire afforded England all the raw materials it needed, and finished goods for export. This was made possible by the Imperial Navy, which controlled the seas.
Who could contest them? Russia. In the 19th century the rivalry was intense. I hate to use Wick-o-pedia, but it's not a bad place to start:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Game
If we simply zoom in our camera lens from its wide shot of the 'forest,' we begin to see the trees: the discreet events happening today in Ukraine, Georgia a few years ago, now an assassination.
The great European families control America through the Fed. After WW1 then WW2, the US became the nation they use to continue their quest for Resource and Power.
I will say having a Unipolar Power is not a good idea. Two Superpowers-as dangerous as a confrontation might be- tend to keep each other straight.
At the moment, we have 1 Unipower. That will change, but the Change will cause shock and disruption.
As serfs, we should demand Peaceful negotiations and Free Markets; business and productivity with non-bloated governments. Idealistic in a world governed by Force, but we should Never Give Up!
Well the woman he was with wasn't shot at all so it seems likely she can shed light on what happened.
Why was the girl spared in such brazen assassination?
Putin has moved very slow and calculating. Too slow in my non superpower leader opinion.
So why in the world would he ever order this hit in middle of Moscow. It absolutely makes no sense. Fear you say. I think he already had that under control.
It did not get under control on it's own. To have an iron grip on a country you need to squeeze from time to time.
Though IMO CIA is not out of the question. Is Putin's position stronger now as his opposition is fearful, or is he weaker as he appears to kill off opposition antagonizing domestic enemies and damaging foreign reputation? How about in the long run? I don't think it can be even properly estimated without serious intelligence into current affairs in Russia.
That was a professional hit. They were fully aware of the cameras. Used the garbage truck to block view of the shooting. Very well done so to speak.
There are cameras everywhere, they avoided the cameras of the footage that was released.
It wuz Poppie Busch an Dick Chainy, write guys?
So was the overriding message, don't run against Putin or I'll destabilize your government. For now, I'll take the former. KISS
Reuters
"'I am not afraid,' Russians march in memory of murdered Putin critic"
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/01/us-russia-nemtsov-idUSKBN0LV2L...
March 1, 2015 Translated by Kristina RusJanuary 17, 2015, Moscow, USA Embassy
Evgeniya, why did you come to the American Embassy?
Boris Efimovich, hello, could you tell us why did you come to the American embassy?
Nemtsov: To visit the ambassador
Why, do you want to ask him some questions?
Nemtsov: Yes, how did he become an ambassador
Hello, can we ask some questions?
Could you tell us, why did you come to the American Embassy?
By invitation
By whose invitation?
And who are you?
We are from the NTV channel
Why did you come here?
Is this questioning?
After the instructions, one hour later:
You are Surkov's propaganda
You are Surkov's propaganda
You are Surkov's propaganda
Kristina Rus:
Among the visitors: Boris Nemtsov, Ilya Ponomarev, Chirikova
Do you really want to know what Russians think about such opposition activists as Nemtsov? Yandex translate the comments under this video. In short it will sound like "prostitutes, traitors etc."
America has done more to marginalize Russian opposition then Putin could ever dream of.
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/03/boris-nemtsov-getting-instructions-...
The girlfriend was CIA.
Wait...she was Ukrainian... she must have been a member of the JUNTA!!!
No.
She's Eastern Ukrainian... the JUNTA must have wanted to committ genocide by preventing her procreation with Nemtzov!
No.
It must have been Russian 'volunteers' who had been fighting in East Ukraine, getting revenge on Nemtzov for his supposed 'imminent' plans to expose Russia's participation!
No.
It was Nemtzov's wife, in revenge for humiliating her with so many girlfriends!
No.
It must be that leader who said Russians who criticize him or question policy are traitors who must be sh... Nope that couldn't be. He's always serious, except when he says things like this. We might not get into heaven if we talk this way.
No.
It must have been CIA!
The obvious answer is almost always the actual answer. The problem is that most people are too dependent on other people's thinking to ever see something that they are not fed.
"the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country" - Herman Goering
The answer is under your nose, and has already been admitted to. You've simply been hypnotized not to acknowledge it.
Russian propaganda made huge efforts to conceal the truth about Russia-Ukraine fratricidal war, and Nemtsov had evidence of Russia’s presence in Ukraine. He was killed in such a way, and in a such a place, that there is one sensible conclusion only - it was a political murder and Kremlin was involved.
Pure idiocy, put down the crack pipe. asswipe
Do you have any arguments, or insults only?
RE: your original comment. I don't argue with brainwashed fucktards.
Double post - my fault - tapped and also inadvertently clicked.
“...that there is one sensible conclusion only...”
Did you skip the lectures on effective propaganda at the School of the Americas?
ROFL.
Pollack logic.
Well, what do you expect? His tribe think an Argentinian Marxist kid-fucker is God incarnate. You expect anything resembling common sense from people like that? They weren't even smart enough to grasp that when the Germans were done gassing the Jews the Poles were next for the showers---much less be grateful when the Red Army saved them from the consequences of their own stupidity.
But please, Leszek. Tell us your grandma's fish stories about what she wishes a Russian soldier had done to her during the war. We promise not to ask what the priests actually did to all her brothers. (They drank themselves to death for a reason, and it wasn't because Polish vodka tastes any good, believe me.)
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Pollacks can't know vodka cos taste is ruined from sucking the euro toilets.
Interesting. The guy is knocked off Friday night. By Sunday, there is an Organized March, complete with flags, banners, even photos of the victim, with 16,000 protestors!
His party is so well organized they can put organized protestors on the street wiith less than 24 hours of prepping!!
The March is so well organized you'd think somebody knew in advance he might meet a deadly fate!
Brought to you by the guys with orange jump suits and hollywood style backdrops and terrorists who are all over 6 foot 6.
16k is all they could muster? Didn't the Je Suis Charlie get over a million
Weak sauce
You sound like an unwitting propagandist or are you a willing one?
Nemtsov was supposed to speak at this event but his death didn't cancel it his supporters changed it to a rally to protest his murder.
So it was already planned, further and he had been telling everyone he was going to share information about Russian regular troops fighting in the Ukraine, which if you have any military or intelligence background or understanding would be able to see that.
So it makes more sense he is knocked off just a couple of days before his speech than some convoluted bunch of propaganda that the Ukraine gov't, CIA or Israel knocked him off.
Your words are much like that of the German propagandists of the late 1930s, full of anti-Semitism, moral nihilism, and militant socialism.
I did not know that they had a planned protest.
However, you could have simply corrected my mistake instead of launching a personal attack.
I still think my theory is valid, Hasbro.
This was clearly a double back flip false-false double reverse triple somersualt attack.
Not exactly Archduke Franz Ferdinand... regardless, some asshat(s) somewhere believe that the murder helps their cause.
We're only 'wage' slaves why should we care???
Just a thought: What are the odds that this incident is caught on camera so perfectly? The whole thing happens right in the middle of the screen. Not left, not right, or in some corner, but perfectly in the center of the screen. I guess the person who was using the camera knows the killers.
Hey MENSA member, that area is covered with cameras because it is by the Kremlin. He clearly thought he was safe walking there. He should have known Putin supporters are often ex KGB or military or mob related which is what this hit looks like. The Russian mob is basically Putin's SA, and this looks like a mob hit. I suspect in the future when he doesn't need them he will have his own version of the night of long knives.
Putin is very similar to Hitler, militant socialist, morally nihlistic and anti-Semitic.
If Putin had done it, the garbage truck would have picked up this trash
Wow, I haven't been on ZH in a long time but he last week of reading articles it is clear the vast majority of those posting comments these days on ZH are pro Putin, anti-Semitic, Socialist and nihlistic.
Some here just state what they see to be the Truth. You don't get that in American News.
You should ask the Government whom you support about the Various leaked documents and questions put forth that has taken the credibility away from your "FREE Country".
half an hour later----disappeared into landfill,
maybe after a trip through a wood chipper....
it would be days before he was even missed.
Homicide detectives use rule called MMO
There must be a MOTIVE for the perp to commit the act
There must be an OPPORTUNITY for the perpetrator to commit the act
The perp must have a METHOD to commit the act.
PUTIN had a 85% popularity in Russia. PUTIN had no MOTIVE to do this.
USSA had a MOTIVE to do this... to reduce putin's 85% popularity.
IN the USA, the sitting Congressman with the HIGHEST percent popular vote was Congressman James Traficant D-OHIO
He was fighting the IRS, and Israel's undue influence upon US Congress... Israel being the largest recipient of US $$ Aid.
He ended up going to a Federal Prison... one of the charges was that he used his staff for personal gain. They used to work weekends at his little farm in Virginia. His staffers wanted to ride his horses. He said, sure, but YOU GUYS DRESS DOWN THE HORSES WHEN YOU RETURN...
THAT was evidence he used his staff for personal gain!
Geddit?
Q: What do ISIS, 911 and DIANETICS all have in common?
A: They all made use of the same ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY of psychology..
ISIS is using what should be called "Prestige - Emotional-Shock Hypnosis", it worked so well on 911 just like it worked in Dianetics by Hubbard.. in Dianetics it was Navy War Hero and Nuclear Physicist (prestige) and pre-prontal lobotomies, Shock treatments, and Abortions! (horror) Same ADVANCED PSYCHOLOGY! show them something horrible (Or say something horrible about a person) and then tell them what they are seeing and why, When a person is hypnotized (entranced) everything they are told is TRUE and goes directly into the subconscious as a command suggestion!
When a person is in someone elses trance everything that operator says is TRUE, and then they will spend years defending the indefensible...
Hypnosis wears off, even hypnosis induced by intense emotional events - unless there are constant reminders of that event. This is why $cientology sends out so much mail to believers, and is also why Dick Cheney and his pals chose the date September 11... because the constant reminders of that number nine one one are all around us..each time you look at your cell phone. (c) 2015 Arnie Lerma.
Hitler also had similar popularity ratings as you quoted for Putin. I am shocked to see in such a short amount of time the alarming rise of anti-Semitic, militant Socialism, and moral nihilism not just in Russia but also in all of Europe and to an alarming degree the political left here in the US.
Your words remind me of the dominant socialist political movements and attitudif in the mid to late 1930s.
Seems like you are the typical shit for brains Americunt moron. who is easily brainwashed by FOXCNNABCCBSNBC and the Useless Snakes govt.
Take a hike, yank wanker.
sometimes the motive is to create chaos, from chaos the new ruling order takes over, first by supplanting certain ideas, or associations. america did not want to enter W2, but after Pearl Harbor, war hysteria took over. was Pearl Harbor a false flag. it probably was to the same degree that 911 was a false flag, Bush had the report on his desk, Al Qaeda had tried to bomb WTC a few years before. I have always wondered why the Congress and the American people were not outraged at his neglect and incompetence? (he had already shown weak leadership on China, and the stock market and the economy were in a nose dive. while i watched the event I thought, somebody really screwed up to allow this to happen. and of course somebody did... whats interesting is no one ever questioned his competence as president, in fact his popularity actually improved, and he declared himself the unitary decider.
and the Yanukovitch ally who fell out of a window in Kiev yesterday is forgotten
this may be more convoluted than JFK, which is the template in these things. this is one area where the Islamics seem to have an advantage. we kill their number two every month, and their bomb experts, the more of their leadership we kill the more of them there are. no one has yet mentioned Islamic terrorists? or Mossad? although i think Mossad would prefer to eliminate Putin, but their real goal is to destabilize, which is what Gorby has said this does. and if Mossad is behind this CIA is not far away.
The Uki trollop is much like John Dillinger's lady in red. She was recruited by someone to lead the horny 54 year old on a harmless little stroll
She wasn't killed because she played her role to perfection. Using her snatch to distract a drunken and Viagra loaded geezer right into the trap
Most likely culprit is Uki junta.
Why you say?
They killed 300 airline passengers which led to tough sanctions. Murder the purported leader of Russian "Maidan" 36 hours before an opposition march for even MOAR sanctions against Russia
If Nemtsov was such a threat to Lemonhead why wasn't he in jail beside Navalny
With 85% approval rating, why do something so brazen when he just doesn't have to do it?
Makes no sense after the triumphant month Putin has had
1. Ceasefire holding AFTER rebels consalidated their territorial gains
2. BRICS Bank
3. De-dollarized trade deal with Evypt
4. Military arrangement with Cyprus
Something had to put the brakes on Putin's actions. This murder was the reaction to pull Putin's attention away from cutting milti polarity deals
The lengths you and others like you here on ZH go to defend Putin and his regime are very entertaining but prove why you and others like you are so morally nihlistic, militant socialist and anti-Semtic.
That crap might work in Europe and Russia like it did in WWI and WWII but won't work in the US.
what is your definition of semite?
Since the anti-Semitism today is shaping up to be the same as the 1930s, version that was fueled by militant Socialism and morally nihlistic behavior then I would say a Semite is anyone who is Jewish by birth, supports Jewish people or the nation of Isreal.
That is the most stupid thing I have ever read here. What a total brainwashed fucktard you are. Palestinians and REAL Jews (few and far between are SEMITES) . Grow a brain and stop making a fool out of yourself.
As a Semite, I would like to endorse DutchBoy's message.
These zionists lay claim to:
Judism being a race (which is false!)
a religion (true),
to being semites (not all, just a VERY small percentage).
and can I add that in Israel itself there's a class / caste system. Have a look at how Ethiopian Jews are treated compared to say, the Ashkanzis.
I remember that leaked conversation with Ashkanzi Zionist Donald Sterling - when he talked explicitly about how black jews are treated compared to white jews. He should know!
The ADL is the most disgusting body in the US after AIPAC.
History they don't teach you in school
Watch it and learn something, little boy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX8i-QriYIU
History they don't teach you in school
Watch it and learn something, little boy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX8i-QriYIU
Guess who coined the term ''anti-semite''?
A Jew of course, the Masters of Deceit and Manipulation
Most residents of Israel don't have ONE DROP of semitic blood in them.
Semite would be a direct descendant of Shem
That was really terrible ignorant answer you gave
Yes, you are brainwashed.
Or if it makes you feel better substitute antii-Semitic with anti-Zionist. Are you an Islamist who believes all Jews should die or practice the Jiyza? Do you feel that Isreal has no right to exist?
I know i shouldn't feed the trolls but I can't resist
I will support Israel's right to exist as soon as Israel allows the Palstinians they drove out of their homes as vicitms of Jewish terrorism and mass murder the right to return to their homes.
I know Palestinains who wear their home keys around their necks as a symbol of their victimizations of Jewish violence
Lebensraum, shouldn't be anathema for Hitler but okey dokey for Mass murderer Nuttyahoo
So you actually follow the prophet of Satan otherwise known as Muhammad and do you follow his violent prose known as the Hadith which gives man license to engage in a myriad of sins including murder and rape?
What works in the USA is pure fucking lies and propaganda because most Americans don't know shit from shinola about the real world and are gullible retards like yourself.
You revert to personal attack and name calling because you can't win your arguement or face the truth of history which you are repeating.
Like your leaders, you employ the tactics of propanda successful ly employed by famous militant socialists of the past like Hitler and Stalin, and of today like Putin.
One of their favorite is to avoid the facts, avoid logical debate and instead engage in name calling and low brow behavior.
Pure horseshit , I will debate you anytime heads up without notes on real history and show you quickly just how brainwashed you truly are.
Lenin and Stalin both used their best lies and propaganda to blame Russian anti-semitism on the Czar. And while it is true that the Czar's assignation was blamed on Jews the reality is that those loyal to he new Socialist gov't murdered the Czar, his wife and children. The propaganda was effective in painting the Socialists Stalin and Lenin as not being anti-Semitic but the truth is that most of the Russian population just like the German population and Europe in general has a long history of violent anti-Semitism.
http://www.loc.gov/teachers/classroommaterials/presentationsandactivitie...
Lenin - Jew. Stalin - Georgian. Don't blame the crimes of theSoviet Union on Russians. The worst crimes were all committed by Jews, ethnic Georgians and Ukrainians
Pure horseshit , I will debate you anytime heads up without notes on real history and show you quickly just how brainwashed you truly are.
Really, then why you react so violently?
Socialism has a long history of anti-Semitism. Let's see you argue against my point instead of your visceral comments.
Have you heard of the SS Handschar? It was one of the Muslim SS units.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_H...
Now we have the likes of the Jewish oligarch Kolomoisky financing Nazi volunteer battalions in Ukraine to ethnically cleanse the east of Russian speaking Ukrainians. We also have Russian Liberals such as Anna Nemtsova rationalizing away the presence of Nazi symbology in the west of Ukraine. This is the same person who wrote an article in 2011 Jewish World Review that "The Kremlin plays a dangerous game by pandering to far-right hate groups".
Your delisounal rantings have no limits, nor are they based on history or the reality that neither Stalin or Hitler could be found to make any order, either written or in a speech for the genocide, mass imprisionment and human rights abuses of Jews during the 1920s, 30s and beyond.
That doesn't mean that millions of Jews weren't sent to the concentration camps, Russian work camps, had property stolen from them and forced to flee Russia and Europe. It happened and you should ask yourself what did Stalin or Lenin do that actually protected Jews?
Nothing, both Germany and Russia where run by militant nationalist Socialism, Atheistic and nihlistic behavior.
Your statements indicate you seek to rekindle that evil flame.
BTW, Stalin was one of the promoters of the term Nazi. He needed to employ propaganda and revisionist history to deflect that both he and Hitler were ardent Socialists with the similar goals.
Is this a pre-programmed rant or a serious response to the information in message 5842840?
It was directed at Amtifabian, freedumb123 or whatever he calls himself. I agree 100% with your post Howdy
The Superjew Kolomoisky even has a cute word for himself in Ukrainian. NaziJew. He admitted he did the airliner
But Holocaust, holocaust, holocaust....get out of jail free card for everything since
Hey freedumb123, is Icky Vicky Nudelman paying you by the word or per post?
You started about blaming Putin..
change to new butthurt each time confronted and lose.
you keep skipping around, all over the place
in denial of who the perpetrators were....
what is your definition of semite?
duh???
I suggest you actually pick up Bible and learn Shem thru Abraham, Ishmael, Ishmalites, Arabs
I recomment Septuagint Bible
thus most of muslim waffenSS were semites
Anti-semitism: the boy who cried wolf
And for your information, freedumb123, I'm an Assyrian American. That makes me a real Semite. Not a phony one like the Khazarians you cloak yourself behind.
Typical Zionist hasbara that you are, AntiFabian.
As a REAL Semite, and JEW, I command you the fake version to fuck right off.
ever listen to yourself?
you are the one came aggravating..
logic debate? you are funnie little goat..
now whine and throw more crap...stock box Hitler, Stalin bored
he just recognize your pissant trolling
I must be touching a nerve, I haven't thrown curse words or insults your way. Be proud of what you are, many dictators and tyrants before you were not ashamed to say who they are, why do you hide and only attack me?
Are you a coward?
" but won't work in the US."... the average US citizen has woken up.
The sheeple are turning into hungry tigers.
I have been to 73 countries during my 40 years in aviation and lived and worked in 5 of them. I speak 4 languages fluently and my last gig before retiring was for a VIP outfit contracted to Ghaddaffi. Quick call the FBI. I am renounced American Vietnam veteran. who has seen the LIES of the USA govt first hand for most of my life. I attack fucktards like you because you have NO interest in learning anything new. You just parrot and swallow the bullshit thrown at you, hook, line and sinker.
Here are some photos of when I was flying for Ghaddaffi. (flight engineer)
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/b7h6bqkvl46q7vj/AAD3yL68363n_qDF2qacfuXta?dl=0
Great pics!
[ Ex Army Helo and Regional Airline Capt here - farmer now ]
Our flight attendants were Russian babes
they hate the Kulaks most of all....
good post
do you remember what cities the Russians were from?
It would be interesting you tell about Ghadadaffi in real...
I like the kitties at the end.
You'd' fit right in any fascist regime. You were what Stalin and Lenin referred to as a useful idiot.
Nice try, but I know the reality and have seen it first hand.
Explain my ZH name if you are so worldly. What does it mean?
better look definiton of fascist.
as for useful idiot......
Crimea a river, freedumb123
then who was videocockass?
Gorbachev has been worried about worsening conflict in Ukraine and elsewhere for some time, even saying that nuclear war is a real posibility if tensions in the region can't be de-escalated. It doesn't look like tensions are softening at all, rather the opposite.
http://www.globaldeflationnews.com/gorbachev-warns-of-major-war-even-nuc...
Even the opposition in Russia is fovor Putin.
Read Saker.
He is surprised by this.
hehe.
Another false flag that backfired.
Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!
It's a pity. We were gonna get him to recruit chicks for our next beer bust. Boris was the shazizzle man!
Chad, Sigma Phi Epsilon, Princeton Prep
just saying:
The message of nezows death was published 3 days ahead
https://wissennichtglauben.wordpress.com/2015/02/28/die-nachricht-vom-to...
http://kaliningrad-life.ru/incidents/Ukrainskiy-sayt-opublikoval-novost-...
Join the NWO (New World Order)http://whatculture.com/wwe/7-worst-members-nwo.php
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just some questions for the "Putin did it" crowd.
how long has this Nemtsov been around and how long has he been the major opposition to Putin?
decades.
how long has Putin been at the top of the power structure in Moscow?
also decades.
how many opportunities did Putin have to dispose of this guy quietly before his death would have caused a major stir in the international media?
did he die in his home of a heart attack, or drown in a hot tub, or hang himself, or die from some mysterious illness? did his car suddenly veer off the road and over a cliff? did they find his body in the woods somewhere devoured by wolves and ravaged by exposure to the harsh Russian winter? did he simply disappear never to be seen or heard from again, his fate a mystery?
no.
for that matter didn't he get caught by the FSB with a pound of blow and two 14 year old girls in some swanky Moscow hotel drugged out of his gourd with no memory of what happened or how he got there?
why kill him and make him a myrter when it's easier to destroy him and his reputation? that is always the best way to neutralize popular political opposition.
instead of any of these other quieter and far more effective options, Putin, the former KGB agent, risks everything he's built over the past 20 years and has the man gunned down on a bridge, in the middle of one of the largest cities on earth?
this murder was planned, designed and executed to be highly sensational, very public and all but tailor made to create a media circus and point the finger right at Putin.
and all of it does nothing but hurt Putin, if only internationally, as Nemtsov presented zero threat to Putin or his political power structure. even if he had something about Moscow's plans for the Ukraine who is going to believe a man holding a gigantic grudge and a government that tried to pass off photos of the Russian invasion of Georgia as a Russian invasion of the Ukraine?
credibility issues to say the least.
even if Nemtsov had a dime to drop why would Putin care? all he had to do was deny and maybe suggest that Nemtsov was on the west's and Kiev's payroll and move on.
problem solved.
so can anybody in the "Putin did this crowd" present one reason, just one logical, sound motive as to why it is so clear, so cut and dry that he had this man killed? and why such a high profile and very public execution was necessary when there were so many other options available?
Putin did not need this man dead and he certainly did not need all the bad pub that comes with the way he was killed.
the west however, this is a exactly what they can use, this is a gift from god and just when they were losing the battle for the Ukraine and Syria on every possible front.
timing. is. everything.
and if the timing of this incident doesn't scream western false flag then I don't know what else possibly could.
In reply to marcusfenix: Perfectly reasoned and stated. Bravo!
How about suspecting the father of one of the young girls he corrupted?
Doesn't make a sensational headline, but if you fuck with the wrong girl, don't be surprised when Big Bad Dad makes sure it doesn't happen again.
Killing independent intellectualists has a long tradition in Russia (Bolsheviks, Soviets etc). And despite that we live in XXI century, russian jumped-up bureaucrats doesn't understand, that in fact this leads the whole coutry to the downfall. That's why Russia is doomed.
http://www.businessinsider.com/morgan-stanley-thinks-the-russian-economy...
https://www.stratfor.com/forecast/decade-forecast-2015-2025
You talk about BussinessInsider here is the final straw!
Go read DailyMail and ass Kardashian is better.
Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!
I agree....business insider is terrible
If Russia is so bad, backwards, and “doomed” why is NASA still paying $70 mil a seat to Ruscomos (space taxi service for poor wittle Americants who can not afford to design and build new toys).
Of course, what is truly amazing is that Russia still accepts US Dollars! Guess they will still be good for toliet paper (actually quite rough on the rear end) or smelly kindling someday
ROFL.
Russia has a few strong points (cosmic, weapon industry, minerals), but it isn't enough. Wise, independent thinking people are necessary, free, civil society. Not propaganda and Czar Putin.
Wise ,independent thinking people? The USA has very few of them.
Russia OTOH has some of the most educated and intelligent people on earth.
Did you know they did a study of immigrants to the USA a few years ago? and their average IQ? Russians scored the highest with Germans second.