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Gorbachev: Murder of Opposition Leader Was a False Flag

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Sniper attacks are commonly used as a form of false flag terror.

Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev says the the killing is aimed at “destabilizing the situation in the country, at heightening confrontation” with the West.

Gorbachev says:

The assassination of Boris Nemtsov is an attempt to complicate the situation in the country, even to destabilize it by ratcheting up tensions between the government and the opposition.

The Saker notes that Putin warned years ago that a false flag of this nature might occur.

Michael Rivero notes:

Another reason to doubt the “Blame Putin” chorus we are already seeing in the corporate media is the manner in which the shooting took place, in public, in front of the girlfriend, to generate the maximum publicity. If Putin had really wanted to kill this guy, it would have been a “suicide” in private or a small plane crash, the way the US Government handles assassinations.

 

The Kiev Snipers: Everyone Agrees That They Fired On BOTH SIDES

Sniper Attacks As False Flag Terror

Random shootings are a type of false flag terror

For example, in 1985 – as part of the “Gladio” (11-21) false flag operations –  snipers attacked and shot shoppers in supermarkets randomly in Brabant county, Belgium killing twenty-eight and leaving many wounded.

Both Sides?

Additionally, shooting both sides is a tip off that it may be a false flag.

 

Specifically, when authoritarian regimes want to break up protests, they might shoot protesters.

 

Likewise, when violent protesters shoot government employees, they might be trying to overthrow the government.

 

But when secretive snipers kill both protesters and the police, it is an indication of a “false flag” attacks meant to sow chaos, anger, disgust and a lack of legitimacy.

 

This has happened many times over the years. For example:

  • Unknown snipers reportedly killed both Venezuelan government and opposition protesters in the attempted 2002 coup

Snipers Fired At BOTH Police and Protesters In Ukraine

This happened during the Maidan protests which resulted in the overthrow of the Ukrainian government, as well.  Indeed, the ruthless slaughter of people by snipers was the event which turned world opinion against the then-current Ukrainian Prime Minister, and  resulted in him having to flee the country.

 

BBC recently interviewed the head of the opposition’s security forces at the time, who confirms that snipers were killing both protesters and police:

 

The former Ukranian government security boss said the same thing.  Specifically, he said:

Former chief of Ukraine’s Security Service has confirmed allegations that snipers who killed dozens of people during the violent unrest in Kiev operated from a building controlled by the opposition on Maidan square.

 

Shots that killed both civilians and police officers were fired from the Philharmonic Hall building in Ukraine’s capital, former head of the Security Service of Ukraine Aleksandr Yakimenko told Russia 1 channel. The building was under full control of the opposition and particularly the so-called Commandant of Maidan self-defense Andrey Parubiy who after the coup was appointed as the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, Yakimenko added.

So both the chief of the government’s security forces and the head of the opposition’s security forces said that the same snipers were killing both protesters and police.  While they disagree about who the snipers were, they both agree that the snipers were attempting to sow chaos.

Similarly:

[Current Ukrainian Health Minister Oleh] Musiy, who spent more than two months organizing medical units on Maidan, said that on Feb. 20 roughly 40 civilians and protesters were brought with fatal bullet wounds to the makeshift hospital set up near the square. But he said medics also treated three police officers whose wounds were identical.

 

Forensic evidence, in particular the similarity of the bullet wounds, led him and others to conclude that snipers were targeting both sides of the standoff at Maidan — and that the shootings were intended to generate a wave of revulsion so strong that it would topple Yanukovych and also justify a Russian invasion.

And the Estonian foreign minister – after visiting Ukraine – told the EU foreign affairs minister that the Maidan opposition deployed the snipers – and fired on both the protesters and the police – to discredit the former government of Ukraine.

Was It Maidan Who Fired?

While the American media has proclaimed that the sniper fire was definitely from government forces, some of the above-cited sources dispute that claim.

Additionally, BBC reported at the time:

Reporting for Newsnight, Gabriel Gatehouse said he saw what looked like a protester shooting out of a window at the BBC’s Kiev base, the Ukraine Hotel.

And BBC recently interviewed a Maidan protester who admitted that he fired a sniper rifle at police from the Conservatory, and that he was guided by a military veteran within the Maidan resistance. Here are actual pictures a reporter took of Maidan snipers, recently published by BBC:

 

gunmen at Kiev Conservatory 20 February

(There were reportedly at least 10 Maidan snipers firing from the Conservatory.)

 

The Frankfurther Allgemein reported last year that Maidan commander Volodymyr Parasjuk controlled the Conservatory at the time:

Volodymyr Parasjuk – the leader in “self-defense units” of the revolution who had called the night of Yanukovich’s escape, on the stage of Maidan to storm the presidential residence one year ago.

 

On the day of the massacre Parasjuk was staying with his unit in the colonnaded building of the Kiev Conservatory right at the Maidan. In the days before the death toll had risen, and the fighters grew the conviction alone with limited power as before will not be able to overthrow Yanukovych. “There were at that time many guys who said you have to take the weapon and attack,” said Parasjuk recalls. “Many,” he himself had since long ago it had firearms, often their officially registered hunting rifles.

Tagesschau – a German national and international television news service produced by state-run Norddeutscher Rundfunk on behalf of the German public-service television network ARD – also reported in 2014 that at least some of the sniper fire came from protesters.

 

And there are other photographs of protesters with rifles, such as this one from Reuters:

 

Independence Square in Kiev February 20, 2014. (Reuters/Maks Levin)

Reuters/Maks Levin

 

So the snipers might have been Maidan opposition forces shooting their own.

 

But – whoever the snipers were – the one thing that is clear is that they were shooting people from both as part of a “strategy of tension” to create maximum chaos. This hints that it may ave been a highly-organized campaign of terror.

 

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Mon, 03/02/2015 - 10:17 | 5845227 Mike Masr
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Of course this was a false flag. Nemtsov's following was less than 2% of the population and 5% in Moscow. Putin had absolutely nothing to gain whatsover from his death. Only the West had something to gain from this and the FSB will get to the bottom of it. Think about it for a moment. If Putin had ordered this killing would it have been done just outside the Kremlin walls? No Putin did not order this as it looks like the work of a foreign mercenary. An assassin sent from abroad to stir up chaos. Look who commented immediately in the media blaming Putin, the tie eater Shakashvili and the US puppet, nazi loving slob, Porkyshenko!       

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 03:35 | 5844890 Kina
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Impossible that Putin's lot had anything to do with this.

This would be the best way to turn people against you, not silence descent. i.e. this is certainly a CIA/Ukraine action.

 

If Russia wanted to silence this guy of little effect they could simply frame him for playing with little kids, give him a car accident, you name it.....but a obvious mafia style hit in front of the Kremlin. The CIA/Ukraine nazis lost any sense of subtlty or common sense now.

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 06:16 | 5844968 luckylongshot
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The US nazis certainly seem to be asking for Putin to release the irrefutable evidence that 9 11 was committed by the US nazis. I hope he delivers...it would be a relief to see these maniacs on the run.

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 11:01 | 5845418 Reptil
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FYI the evidence that  9-11 was an inside job has been available for some time now.
it's just being ignored by mass media, who are complicit in this systemwide treason.

Peer-reviewed publication
www.nielsharrit.org
hostile BBC interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQdB27XBT6c
there is of cours much, much more, but this is irrefutable proof of an inside job.

FWIW I really don't know who killed the politician.
how it looks doesn't say really anything IMO.
logically this is bad timing for Putin and Russia as such.

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 04:36 | 5844886 max29
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To be monetary&media&juridical enslaved Treyf or be Sovereign


“...If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained  for such time as the State can shield most the people from the political, economic and/or military realities&consequences of the lie.

...It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.....”

Goebbels & Hitler from Argentina. Rockefeller&Partners in crime usa 2015 .Us/Israel/Eu Goverments.

See  WilliamBanzai’s on it.

Greetings: ‘Skull& Bones Bush H.Kissinger..a.o.’

Note : the bones in there are yours to be …(and the ones of your familie/friends) if lack awareness.

And countryman who were told to believe they served their country.      They served only us  our being and status- Non Taxed & Non Violable - anchored deeper and stronger.

See cause they could -not realise neither be aware of - they prove to  be the real piggies- untermenschen. Awareness holds many a key and might save a life.

We can in our GoldenSachs-religion do with a pig whatever we want kick it -hurt it -kill it off  but not eat it.  That is the true meaning of Kosher. Ain’t that our/a wonderful religion……? Kill slowly often but not eat...

Kosher foods are those that conform to the regulations of kashrut (Jewish dietary law). Food that may be consumed according to  (Jewish law) is termed kosher in English, from the Ashke..nazi pronunciation of the Hebrew term kashér   , meaning "fit" (in this context, fit for consumption).

Food that is not in accordance with Jewish law is called treif (Yiddish or treyf, derived from Hebrew  trafáh) meaning torn - ripped apart. 

To be monetary&media&juridical enslaved Treyf or be Sovereign.

Thanks to EdwardSnowden in Moscow -lucky he is -and Lazar-Bradley unlucky they are- and others.

Give Treyf a thought.

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 02:08 | 5844815 Jack Daniels Esq
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Obama having a second Bin Ladin moment

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 01:59 | 5844776 max29
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This in 'perfect harmony ' with following

 Vier amerikanische Mini-Atombomben in der Ukraine

http://www.schweizmagazin.ch/nachrichten/ausland/22283-Vier-amerikanisch...

In former post of George i mentioned Lazar a Romanian jailed who hacked emails from Rockefellers to NSa & Cia. -his two own children-

It was about mushrooming an american city to start a war with Russia. See comments

Idea abanded cause of his leak but plan in tact. 

Just take in the Ukrain  a city a small or larger facility.

Explained they need war for too many a reason

and these JewishÜbermenschen will not hesitate a minute.

Better give it a thought and send to as many as possible. We aid in saving America and Europe their citizens  that is what serving your country true meaning is and  too many are not yet aware of.

 

 

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 01:33 | 5844775 antidisestablis...
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For anyone not paying attention, here is the ZH lie detector logic code:  If anyone in Russia speaks they are telling the truth, but if anyone in the West speaks they are lying. 

The other important point to remember is that if anyone dies anywhere and the U.S. does not take responsibility it means they are responsible and it is a false flag event.

Ok, kindergarten is out for the day.  

 

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 09:23 | 5845120 nathan1234
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I would say you are too deaf to hear anything other than your own voice

or

too blind to see beyond your nose.

 

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 22:43 | 5844437 windcatcher
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“Gladio” was just the tip of the iceberg. This Russian hit is standard procedure for the CIA and contract killers. The CIA has been using terrorism attacks in foreign countries to destabilize governments and terrorist attacks against their own country to destabilize our democracy for the last 65 years.

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 23:45 | 5844559 Axenolith
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The first guy pictured is shooting a match grade single shot .22. The third guy is shooting what appears to be a break barrel air gun (a "springer", some of which are capable of matching some of the hottest .22 LR rounds).  The second guy, I'm at a loss for that, it almost looks like something home made.

If you're the "opposition" in a European country and you weren't a hard core criminal before the crap hit the fan, this is pretty much what you're stuck using, at least until you can scavenge better.  Probably have access to some shotguns too.  Further west you go, the tougher it gets too, a lot of them are limited to 18 or 12 fpe (foot pounds energy) for airguns.

For comparison, a 5.56X45 out at 500 yards still has about 200 fpe while a .308/7.62X51 has about 1200.  At the muzzle a .22 airgun has about 32 fpe with a 14-15 grain pellet and a .22LR round about 70 fpe.

With lighter and/or subsonic rounds, you need to be a REALLY good shot.

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 01:07 | 5844733 AssN9
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The second looks to be a double rifle of unknown cal. but normally .30 cal or larger. Used generally for hunting dangerous game when a second quick shot could be a life saver. Correct, the third is a break action air rifle.

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 00:38 | 5844695 Hugh_Jorgan
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Two out of 3 images aren't even pictures of real snipers, just protesters or rebels with whatever gun they could get ahold of (you're not going to kill anyone with a pellet gun, PLEASE!). The 2nd guy looks to be holding an actual hunting rifle of some kind so he MIGHT be a real gunman.

But this idea is pure Soviet Era propaganda in the first place! Are we really expected to believe that the opposition who was about to hang you out to dry was executed but it was a false flag!? No really, it was!

Seriously? ZH has become such a hotbed of Russian fawning and disinformation, it gets a little drippy sometimes...

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 04:37 | 5844920 Axenolith
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People take buffalo with air guns.  10 or 11 grains at 1000 feet per second WILL go through a skull, or a sternum for that matter.  You just don't get the shock with subsonic projectiles.

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 21:31 | 5844237 Moccasin
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Do you really think Putin is so stupid that he would decide to kill a loud mouth politician who polls about 5% support in Moscow? Do you really think Putin would kill a loud mouth politician who has little support a few days before that very same loud mouth politician calls for a rally that was 'maybe' going to draw about ten thousand supporters in a city of 11.6 million? Tell me who is being stupid?

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 01:11 | 5844744 Zero Point
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia

 

Maybe just so used to killing anyone that questions him, that he's probably genuinely surprised anyone else would even be surprised anymore.

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 00:40 | 5844698 Hugh_Jorgan
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If he had the right (or wrong) information, anything is possible.

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 20:44 | 5844110 napper
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Glad to see that Mr. Gorbachev has finally "wised" up a bit. Wonder when he will reckon the fact that  he had been used like a tool by Western banksters in the 1990s.

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 19:38 | 5843937 Prober
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Stop all the pathetic distracting propaganda - putin ordered the hit.

Russians should depose the putin self-appointed tzar and stop invading the eastern european neighbors.

Americans should depose the obomination self-appointed king.

Then the Russian and American people should unite, eradicate ALL the islamic cult worshipers, and divide up their land and resources between them in a new world power alliance.

 

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 20:45 | 5844115 napper
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would you please kindly take your psychiatric medications on time!!

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 18:23 | 5843735 Icelandicsaga.....
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   There is so much bullshit flying now about who .. what where ... but I do know what NATO and IMF managed to stir up in the CRAP IN THE  Balkans ... its how they do business.. if there is not a war .. stir the natives .. and get one started to cover up whatever you are trying to cover up . or assets you want to grab... IN case of Russia . .it seems the West wants Russia destrablized .. same as they have done TO Iraq, LIBYA .. Syria and UKRAINE ..  everywhere we have been involved  recent years. The point is not liberty or 'democracy-;    to keep hegeominc power going even if it means World War III with guys sho  have the ablity to fire from he heavens .. on DC and NYC   OR Berlin and London  The NATO alliance has become a cancerous growth .. a part of the American empire that makes US the bad guys .. .. it going to get us all killed or maimed or turned into a backward hell hole.

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Sun, 03/01/2015 - 18:23 | 5843733 Icelandicsaga.....
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   There is so much bullshit flying now about who .. what where ... but I do know what NATO and IMF managed to stir up in the CRAP IN THE  Balkans ... its how they do business.. if there is not a war .. stir the natives .. and get one started to cover up whatever you are trying to cover up . or assets you want to grab... IN case of Russia . .it seems the West wants Russia destrablized .. same as they have done TO Iraq, LIBYA .. Syria and UKRAINE ..  everywhere we have been involved  recent years. The point is not liberty or 'democracy-;    to keep hegeominc power going even if it means World War III with guys sho  have the ablity to fire from he heavens .. on DC and NYC   OR Berlin and London  The NATO alliance has become a cancerous growth .. a part of the American empire that makes US the bad guys .. .. it going to get us all killed or maimed or turned into a backward hell hole.

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Sun, 03/01/2015 - 17:06 | 5843516 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Gorby nails it again.

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 18:24 | 5843739 unrulian
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SO in the three pictures there's a "sniper" with a broken hand carrying a side by side shotgun (maybe side by side rifle) but not a sniper, another guy with a bolt action with open sights (barely a sniper) and a third picture with a pellet gun; at least get some stock pictures of real snipers and pretend like everyone else 

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 15:50 | 5843312 Who was that ma...
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Nemtsov himself would say that there was nothing false about it.

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 17:08 | 5843520 HerrDoktor
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We can always rehabilitate him posthumously

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 15:15 | 5843200 basho
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"Murder of Opposition Leader"

the more ou read on this clown, the less he looks like a leader and more like a tool.

calling him a leader is a bit over the top.

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 14:16 | 5842977 Consuelo
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I'm the leader of a major nuclear power.  I have recently signed agreements and have become much closer allied with another major economic And nuclear power. My nation is also involved in key business dealings with major economic powers in Europe and the Middle East.   As of now, I am dealing with a situation of an unstable State on my flank, who is being funded and trained by a powerful nuclear power, 7000 miles distant from my nation but who has documented plans to 'contain' my nation and its leadership - at nearly All Costs...   Not only is the 80% approval rating of my own citiznery highly important to me, but as well is my image, and through that image, the nation that I represent on the world stage, is on the line...

Therefore, in order to bolster my image and the image of my nation on the world stage, I am going to whack a dissenting, opposing voice of my government, in the middle of my Capital city for everyone to see, so that they can bear witness to what great discerning, diplomatic skills I employ to further win the hearts & minds of people the world over...

Yeah, that's plausible...

/s

 

 

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 00:44 | 5844703 Hugh_Jorgan
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OR... He goes ahead and whacks the guy and calls it a false flag! Are you dense?

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 17:12 | 5843533 lotsoffun
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consuelo - i would say that in the past, we've been convinced that lots of dictators have done things like that.  but considering everything that putin has put up with, and done the best possible to be diplomatic and not rash and off hand, doesn't seem likely.  this isn't 'godfather'.  he is not running a chain of pizza joints fronting for heroin dealing in bay ridge brooklyn.  he has been succesffully running one of the worlds top 7 economies and one of the worldest top 3 militaries for a good number of years now.

only hillary and nudelman and their idiot friends could come up with something as stupid as this.

he would have just made the guy disappear, millions of ways.

why bother?  the guy was out whoring with a girl 30 years younger than him.  ask HER what happened and who she works for might be a start.

amazing.  amazing how stupid they think we are, but WORSE, how bad they want to start wwiii

 

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 14:50 | 5843100 Jack Burton
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Some voices in Russia are saying that the shooter[s] might already be out of the country. Why? Because they left the key witness alive, the young girl from Kiev. And two other near bystanders. No attempt was made to silence people standing right there watching the killing. So, obviously the killer[s] seemed unworried about be caught later by a manhunt.

But, let's see if anyone is arrested.

The fact that Western Media IS blaming Putin with zero evidence speaks loudly to the False Flag narrative.

MH-17, now forgotten, and un-investigated, prime evidence suppressed, was blamed directly on Putin by the entire Western media, minutes after the shoot down.

two recent attacks on buses in East Ukraine, both blammed by the West on the rebels, with zero evidence.

We see a pattern here, of Western media being simply an arm of government propaganda campaigns.

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 00:27 | 5844670 usednabused
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Exactly, they call that western media PRAVDA. Ooops, I mean CNBC. Anyway you get the point. Same as when I was in school and the teachers had to make endless points about the press in Russia being called Pravda and being nothing but a tool for the govt. Well, fuck me raw, who would have known they were talking about the press right here in the USA? Only commanality I find between the two Pravda's is a commanality of ownership...fucking Jews.

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 12:43 | 5842665 antidisestablis...
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The dimwits on ZH are incapable of understanding the false flase flag or even the false false false false flag.

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 13:37 | 5842827 shovelhead
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Boy, wait until they hear about the Mississippi Half Step Uptown Toodle Loo double false flag.

That one's a doozie.

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 11:37 | 5842464 SMC
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The best chance for world peace is for the US Dollar to lose reserve currency status.

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 11:22 | 5842431 Charming Anarchist
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Dr. Evil:  "I have a plan." 

Underling:  "What is it, Doctor?" 

Dr. Evil:  "I want to start an opposition protest." 

Underling:  "How many people do you want to show up, Doctor?" 

Dr. Evil:  "Not so fast!  We need an opposition leader!  Go find an opposition leader first and let him organize it.  We need to advertize the event!"

 

 

 

 

Underling:  "Doctor, your opposition leader has only 2 days to go and so far, he can only hire a couple of dozen hobos off the street to show up.  What shall we do?" 

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 11:18 | 5842418 roadhazard
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Putin is "personally" on the case... I can sleep easier now.

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 10:30 | 5842279 Buster Cherry
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I read this and Vince Foster comes to mind.

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 08:58 | 5842098 Svendblaaskaeg
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"what difference does it make at this point?" - anyway, me think the gun on the last picture is a break-barrel airgun, Weihrauch HW80 most likely, zoom in, see for youself

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http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/euromaidan/img/tsarev_02.jpg

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 13:48 | 5842866 Consuelo
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Fuckin-A took the words right outta my head...   The First thing I thought when I saw that thing was 'Hey - that's a  'SOCOM' pellet gun...!!!

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 10:23 | 5842253 Buster Cherry
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Yeah thats a damn skinny barrel for a hi powered rifle.

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 05:41 | 5841926 tok1
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what i think is going on is 

1) Currently Iran/Syria are under control of Russia (they supply them arms ect)

forget what the media says, Israel has been happy with this agreement as it kept the balance of power stable in

the region ie US supports Saudis / Iraq ext ..so theres kind of a stalemate between Shia (backed by Russia) 

Sunni (back by the US)

Obama is ant Israel, (yes its real) and hes trying to change the balance of power so that Iran/ Syria come under the US side.. 

This is bad for Russia and its bad for Israel...

Russia and Israel are moderate allies, they uderstand each other...

 

Obama is trying to allow the Arabs to unite and tip balance against Israel,

Russia and Israel are trying to keep the status quo

 

I am not sure whos right on wrong... thats whats happening..

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 18:58 | 5843834 Mute Button
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I would sooner believe Obama's tiff with Israel is staged.

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 06:36 | 5841962 44magnum
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" thats whats happening.."

Schizophrenics are pretty sure things happen when they don't. You better go get professional help.

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 05:07 | 5841888 Kina
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well now they think they can Assasinate Putin, because it would be revenage from the Opposition...and not the CIA.

 

However, if they did that....Ukraine, Germany etc USA would be toast....

Im heading out bush. CIA/USA etc trying to stoke real war....problem is it will become somthing they can't handle......they are pouring petrol overthemsleves...

Wonder if the politicians in Germany starting get a bit nervous......don't think they want to get involved in another Europeane conflict and bring war to German mainland...which is where it will end up.  In any genuine conflict German has to be a first target.

Sun, 03/01/2015 - 05:05 | 5841885 Kina
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But the Huffington Post reporting that..everyone believes Putin did it.....

don't tell me they can suck Obama and deliver a CIA script at the same time....

 

 

Of course everybody knows, including MSM knows exactly who did this....but they need to make out it was Putin to continue the warmongering game.

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