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Gorbachev: Murder of Opposition Leader Was a False Flag
Sniper attacks are commonly used as a form of false flag terror.
Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev says the the killing is aimed at “destabilizing the situation in the country, at heightening confrontation” with the West.
Gorbachev says:
The assassination of Boris Nemtsov is an attempt to complicate the situation in the country, even to destabilize it by ratcheting up tensions between the government and the opposition.
The Saker notes that Putin warned years ago that a false flag of this nature might occur.
Michael Rivero notes:
Another reason to doubt the “Blame Putin” chorus we are already seeing in the corporate media is the manner in which the shooting took place, in public, in front of the girlfriend, to generate the maximum publicity. If Putin had really wanted to kill this guy, it would have been a “suicide” in private or a small plane crash, the way the US Government handles assassinations.
The Kiev Snipers: Everyone Agrees That They Fired On BOTH SIDES
Sniper Attacks As False Flag Terror
Random shootings are a type of false flag terror …
For example, in 1985 – as part of the “Gladio” (11-21) false flag operations – snipers attacked and shot shoppers in supermarkets randomly in Brabant county, Belgium killing twenty-eight and leaving many wounded.
Both Sides?
Additionally, shooting both sides is a tip off that it may be a false flag.
Specifically, when authoritarian regimes want to break up protests, they might shoot protesters.
Likewise, when violent protesters shoot government employees, they might be trying to overthrow the government.
But when secretive snipers kill both protesters and the police, it is an indication of a “false flag” attacks meant to sow chaos, anger, disgust and a lack of legitimacy.
This has happened many times over the years. For example:
- Unknown snipers reportedly killed both Venezuelan government and opposition protesters in the attempted 2002 coup
- Unknown snipers fired during Thailand’s 2010 protests, killing both police and protesters
Snipers Fired At BOTH Police and Protesters In Ukraine
This happened during the Maidan protests which resulted in the overthrow of the Ukrainian government, as well. Indeed, the ruthless slaughter of people by snipers was the event which turned world opinion against the then-current Ukrainian Prime Minister, and resulted in him having to flee the country.
BBC recently interviewed the head of the opposition’s security forces at the time, who confirms that snipers were killing both protesters and police:
The former Ukranian government security boss said the same thing. Specifically, he said:
Former chief of Ukraine’s Security Service has confirmed allegations that snipers who killed dozens of people during the violent unrest in Kiev operated from a building controlled by the opposition on Maidan square.
Shots that killed both civilians and police officers were fired from the Philharmonic Hall building in Ukraine’s capital, former head of the Security Service of Ukraine Aleksandr Yakimenko told Russia 1 channel. The building was under full control of the opposition and particularly the so-called Commandant of Maidan self-defense Andrey Parubiy who after the coup was appointed as the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, Yakimenko added.
So both the chief of the government’s security forces and the head of the opposition’s security forces said that the same snipers were killing both protesters and police. While they disagree about who the snipers were, they both agree that the snipers were attempting to sow chaos.
[Current Ukrainian Health Minister Oleh] Musiy, who spent more than two months organizing medical units on Maidan, said that on Feb. 20 roughly 40 civilians and protesters were brought with fatal bullet wounds to the makeshift hospital set up near the square. But he said medics also treated three police officers whose wounds were identical.
Forensic evidence, in particular the similarity of the bullet wounds, led him and others to conclude that snipers were targeting both sides of the standoff at Maidan — and that the shootings were intended to generate a wave of revulsion so strong that it would topple Yanukovych and also justify a Russian invasion.
And the Estonian foreign minister – after visiting Ukraine – told the EU foreign affairs minister that the Maidan opposition deployed the snipers – and fired on both the protesters and the police – to discredit the former government of Ukraine.
Was It Maidan Who Fired?
While the American media has proclaimed that the sniper fire was definitely from government forces, some of the above-cited sources dispute that claim.
Additionally, BBC reported at the time:
Reporting for Newsnight, Gabriel Gatehouse said he saw what looked like a protester shooting out of a window at the BBC’s Kiev base, the Ukraine Hotel.
And BBC recently interviewed a Maidan protester who admitted that he fired a sniper rifle at police from the Conservatory, and that he was guided by a military veteran within the Maidan resistance. Here are actual pictures a reporter took of Maidan snipers, recently published by BBC:
(There were reportedly at least 10 Maidan snipers firing from the Conservatory.)
The Frankfurther Allgemein reported last year that Maidan commander Volodymyr Parasjuk controlled the Conservatory at the time:
Volodymyr Parasjuk – the leader in “self-defense units” of the revolution who had called the night of Yanukovich’s escape, on the stage of Maidan to storm the presidential residence one year ago.
On the day of the massacre Parasjuk was staying with his unit in the colonnaded building of the Kiev Conservatory right at the Maidan. In the days before the death toll had risen, and the fighters grew the conviction alone with limited power as before will not be able to overthrow Yanukovych. “There were at that time many guys who said you have to take the weapon and attack,” said Parasjuk recalls. “Many,” he himself had since long ago it had firearms, often their officially registered hunting rifles.
Tagesschau – a German national and international television news service produced by state-run Norddeutscher Rundfunk on behalf of the German public-service television network ARD – also reported in 2014 that at least some of the sniper fire came from protesters.
And there are other photographs of protesters with rifles, such as this one from Reuters:
Reuters/Maks Levin
So the snipers might have been Maidan opposition forces shooting their own.
But – whoever the snipers were – the one thing that is clear is that they were shooting people from both as part of a “strategy of tension” to create maximum chaos. This hints that it may ave been a highly-organized campaign of terror.
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Cui bono:
Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko said on Saturday Russian opposition politician Boris Nemtsov was murdered because he planned to disclose evidence of Russia’s involvement in Ukraine’s separatist conflict.
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The "West's" concern for disgruntled Communist loser politicians whacked in free market Russia is measured in micro-givashitz.
Funny how the Western media doesn't mention the stiff guy is a Communist, or what's up in Siberia.
Isn't it?
BTW what's up in Siberia?
(His last text he accused Putin out treason for giving Siberia to China)
' Research Facilities ' protected by friendly people in white.
Iteresting to see the disparagement of Putin on Zero Hedge as well as the opposite view. I don't know Putins history and he may well have been involved in unsavoury events but it is so hard to tell with the lack of truthfullness in the western media. What I do know is: Putin had an open press conference where journalists from the East and West were able to ask anything for over 2 hours.MH17 was not shot down by Russia or proRussian rebels in Ukraine despite the best efforts of the BBC and so on to convince us of that. Putin defused the US attempt to bomb Syria and the chemical weapons used there were used by the US supported rebels. Putin has bent over backwards to avoid a confrontation with the US and USA in Ukraine despite sanctions, NATO grand-standing and other provocations by the west. This leads me to conclude that the CIA or Ukraine is responsible for this assasination
Nemtsov was a fitness fanatic. Google his name and you can see pictures of him buff and fit. Look at the body on the pavement and it is somewhat tubby. Either he let himself go to hell or it's a different person?
He must have had a big meal and a few bottles of Vadka that evening (or every day in the months / weeks in the company of the Ukrainian girl). He was not that fit - he got a big belly long before his death, natural part of aging. Past pictures show it.
Great observation - I too noticed that 'distended' belly from the pavement photo before they sheeted him. He wasn't dead long enough to bloat like a water buffalo floating down the Mekong, so what gives there I wonder...?
Let's see. 23 y.o. Ukrainian prostitute pretending to be romantically involved with 55 y.o. man, washed out politician from Yeltzin clique, on 11 pm stroll over empty pedestrian bridge in view of Kremlin. Kindergartners already got it. Did you.
CIA inspired killing executed by Ukrainian or Russian oligarch.
If some few months from now some Russian oligarch has tax problem. Or Ukrainian oligarch gets hard attack. We will know.
Are you a man of peace
Or man of holy war?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqmB1MY2sGE
Gorbachev seems genuinely worried about the events unfolding in Ukraine. He is on record saying that war, even a nuclear war, is possible if tensions in the region persist. And it looks like tensions are escalating these days...
http://www.globaldeflationnews.com/gorbachev-warns-of-major-war-even-nuc...
But, what does Brian Williams say. I'm sure he was an eye witness.
Putin is a nasty piece of work indeed, but he didn't get to where he has gotten, and stayed there, by being so stupid. For Putin to have ordered this guy's killing would have been stupid. This Nemtsov guy has been a bigger deal today than he ever was alive. His planned protest would have been heeded by nobody outside the US MSM. Now he's being pimped to be some kind of martyr. Putin came up through the KGB and the Russian Mob. This is the kind of thing he knows about. I have a very hard time believing he would have ordered this hit.
It seems far more likely to me that Nemtsov has been being groomed as a leader of a "spontaneous" "color revolution" and it had become clear Nemtsov's efforts so far would amount to a wet fart. At that point he's worth more dead than alive to the parties backing his efforts.
It's actually pretty clumsy spookcraft. It amounts to preaching to the choir; nobody's opinion will be changed by this. It's just an attempt to salvage something out of a gambit that was falling apart, and it will provide the US with an excuse to do something they were already going to do. If Nemtsov was on the US dole he was an idiot. That retirement program is quite a bitch; ask Noriega, Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden, the Shah of Iran; the list goes on and on and Nemtsov was no rock star.
a ten year could figure this one out. look, you did. lol
I agree. Putin is too smart and subtle a geostrategist to commit such a blunder. This is what happens when the CIA decides you are worth more dead to them than alive. Obviously Putin is the real target here.
Absolutely. Look at who gains, look at who loses.
If Putin did it, it would have been a quiet "accidental death" the kind we have been seeing so much of lately from the CIA and the Mossad, who probably also did this obvious false flag.
You know, kind of like Anna Politkovskaya
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Anna_Politkovskaya
"nuke ISIS now" is a good screen name for you. Clearly you know nothing about whom ISIS is, was, and works for. Nor anything about how nuclear weapons work.
Nor, it turns out, anything about global politics.
The fact that there's a trail of dead bodies behind Putin does not prove he had anything to do with Nemtsov, unless you believe Putin got to be so powerful by being stupid. The people you mention were not likely to have been sponsored by Western intelligence interests. At the time they died, Putin had good, if not cordial, relations with the West. A leader of a certain country claimed to have looked into Putin's eyes, and seen he had a good soul. Yeah, cringeworthy, but there you have it.
The West didn't care who died as Putin ascended. Now that the West is trying to take him down, the game is different. If Putin doesn't recognize this, he's stupid. So far he's shown no signs of stupidity.
You, on the other hand...
Yes, kind of like the list of dead bodies assoiated with opponents of Putin.
You take the position as if this latest "hit" was an isolated incident. Your theory falls apart after seeing the trail of dead bodies leading directly to Vlad
Vlad is a small timer.
Take a good look at the dead bodies leading to and from Barry Soetoro and Billary and Killary Clinton......And these hundreds of dead are only the ones we actually know about.
Recent American political leaders can hold their own as prolific mass political murderers.
You would be amazed at just how common hits are.
I was given a phone number by a senior partner in a big 4 accountancy firm, to 'deal' with a
biz problem.A permanent solution you might say.
I didn't, but was almost tempted.
The trail of bodies in the wake of the Clintons and Obozo is quite impressive also.
Cui bono ? is the only thing that matters.Putin doesn't over a marginal has been.
As a man who has spent his entire career in and around the construction industry in NYC, I approve this message.
According to some reports, Litvinenko tried to investigate Politkovskaya's death.[37][38] He was also writing a book about FSB activities including concentration camps in Chechnya. In that regard, he had frequent contacts with Politkovskaya.[39] Litvinenko's poisoning was remarkably similar to the thallium poisoning of KGB defector Nikolai Khokhlov,[40] whom Politkovskaya had interviewed for Novaya Gazeta.[41]
It still remains unclear who ordered the assassination. Some speculations were fueled by the fact that she was killed on Putin's birthday. Historian Yuri Felshtinsky and political scientist Vladimir Pribylovsky commented [48] that none of the official suspects had personal motives to kill Politkovskaya.[dated info] This led them to suggest several possible contractors: "the central leadership of the secret service - as a birthday present for Putin" or "Ramzan Kadyrov, also as a birthday present for Putin, in the hopes of receiving a present in return - the presidency of Chechnya (the hope was realized)".
On the other hand Ramzan Kadyrov alleged that oligarch Boris Berezovsky was behind Politkovskaya's killing. "We would need Politkovskaya today to show what she used to say, and what there is now. People arrive and walk freely around Grozny. A normal life! How could our enemies use Politkovskaya effectively? By killing her. Who did it? Berezovsky, I believe," Kadyrov was quoted as saying in April 2009.[49]
Case devAlexander Litvinenko deathbed remarks
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6180262.stm
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/02/28/russian-investigators-fail-to-me...
Well, if his mom said he was Putin's top critic and Putin would get him for it, that's good enough for me.
By the way, you guys should ask my mom all about me.
he had it coming
Gorbatchev coming out on Putin's side and basically calling this a false flag is vey strong indeed.
I'd like to see the USSA MSM report on this version of the event.
And yes, I do also believe in Santa Claus.
/sarc
"I'd like to see the USSA MSM report on this version of the event." HAHAHAHAHA! Please, stop. You're killing me. They'll get right on this, as soon as they finish the story on the Chicago PD torture site, Homan.
Remeber these quotes and relize the speakers are capable of anything
"Who really gives a damn."
"Fuck the EU."
When does Europe wake up to what's going on. Hopefully before the missles start flying. The U.S. will probably not remain untouched if a major war breaks out. There will be nothing left for anyone.
If you haven't seen the movie "The Road" you should.
FL
We live in a nation of fools. The basic question in murder is cui bono, and who had the ability. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Roscio_Amerino
Putin had the ability, but has the intelligence to create an accidental death. The USA has the ability and the motive.
Belief in Putin as the bogeyman is for infantile thinkers.
It's incredible that it took the cia scums so long to act. I got news for them Rusia is not a banana republic.
lookin' at the desultory fuckin' track record of the cia since the beginning it's a wonder they haven't gotten this country blown to bits yet. even the sheeple loathe them.
Langley and the Pentagon would suffice.
Payback should get interesting.
The parasites will squeal when Putin nukes them.
How did he know that?! ... geez! ... what else did he say might happen?? ... not like a chess-player head of state with a personal stake in the outcome ... would think to, um ... to make state murder look like a ... um, ... a pre-warned sort of like ... false-flag thing ... if that were actually predicted by the very same self-interested party ... which would seem a bit off ... if that were to eventuate ...
It's easy to say something might happen, especially if one is in a position to make it happen. That said, I'm not saying Putin was behind this. I can imagine a variety of scenarios where parties on both sides of the divide would could concievably benefit from this hideous act. George W is casting more heat than light it, or so it seems to me.
agree, well put.
Lookie, two paid trolls in a row! AND FUCK YOU BOTH
Now I know what the George Washington impostor is:
either an islamic cult worshiper, possibly a member of ISIL or al-qaeda or one of the other numerous islamic vermin groups
or a fifth columnist traitor and parasite
or BOTH.
This impostor's ONLY purpose is to publish propaganda of every imaginable kind against America and to defend the scumbags of the world, eg the russian vikings and islamic cult worshiping scum.
Everyone welcome the 12 week ass probe.
And he doesn't even use KY ... damn that hurts. Prober is either very old or very young with no real understanding of history .. if he did . he would not put Putin on the samve level with ISIS or Islam defenders.. if you know ANY RUSSIANS . YOU KNOW despise militant Islam and Islamists.. they have had to contend wiht them up close and personal for decades.> One Russian asked the other day .. why is the US tyring to make us the enemy .. we have a common enemy .. miitant iSLAM .. HAVE TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION .. some people just get a hard on being stuck in the Cold War . .its comfy for them .. but show absoltuely NO udnerstanding of how things are in 2015 .. NATO lost its mind in the Balkans .. and its stayed lost ever since...
And he doesn't even use KY ... damn that hurts. Prober is either very old or very young with no real understanding of history .. if he did . he would not put Putin on the samve level with ISIS or Islam defenders.. if you know ANY RUSSIANS . YOU KNOW despise militant Islam and Islamists.. they have had to contend wiht them up close and personal for decades.> One Russian asked the other day .. why is the US tyring to make us the enemy .. we have a common enemy .. miitant iSLAM .. HAVE TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION .. some people just get a hard on being stuck in the Cold War . .its comfy for them .. but show absoltuely NO udnerstanding of how things are in 2015 .. NATO lost its mind in the Balkans .. and its stayed lost ever since...
I wouldn't welcome a 12 week ass probe...
12 minutes would be far more than enough for me.
It's just not my thing.
anal prober,
isil is just a cia front. and al-qaeda was started by the cia as well, to fight russia in afghanistan; it's a well established fact that osama bin laden was on the cia payroll. and it's also well established that the federal govt is funding and arming al qaeda even today, in the hopes they'll overthrow assad.
so, think about that a minute. our government is giving arms and money to al qaeda, those same dastardly muslims that supposedly caused 9-11.
if you are a flag-waving patriot with his head stuck in the sand, you need to wake up.
if you are just a paid troll, well, then continue as you were.
don't smoke weed and post
shit dude, the only way I can make sense of this crap at all is to be high as fuck
Don't blame it on weed. This one is blowing glue and nail polish.
The reefer would never lead to something like this, but maybe drinking varnish or something ...