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This Is The Chinese Documentary That Got Over 30 Million Views In One Day
While the citizenry of America remains transfixed by the ever-changing color of some Scottish wedding dress; this weekend saw an even more massively viral social media phenomenon as tens of millions of Chinese watched, gripped and outraged, a 104-minute video entitled "Under The Dome" exposing the ugly truth about Chinese air pollution. What is perhaps most stunning - aside from the fact that something so 'important' can go viral without Kim Kardashian's ass all over it - is that the Chinese government, so far, has not shut off the documentary, and recently appointed minister of environmental protection, Chen Jining, even praised the video; suggesting a growing conflict between Beijing and the Chinese industrial complex.
Full documentary here - with English subtitles (with over 35 million views since its release yesterday on YouKu)
English audio translation of the first section can be found here.
As The NY Times reports, the documentary, funded and narrated by a former Chinese TV reporter, recounts her journey of discovery, hunting for the sources of China’s bad air and inquiring why repeated government promises have done so little to clear it up, while coping with a daughter born with a tumor...
[In 2013], she did not pay much attention to the smog engulfing much of China and affecting 600 million people, even as she traveled for work from place to place where the air was acrid with fumes and dust.
“But,” Ms. Chai says with a pause, “when I returned to Beijing, I learned that I was pregnant.”
Since its online debut on Saturday, Ms. Chai’s documentary, “Under the Dome,” has inspired an unusually passionate eruption of public and mass media discussion. Many messages were from Chinese parents identifying with Ms. Chai’s fears that pollution has imperiled their children’s health.
“When I heard her heart beating, the only thing I wished for her was good health,” Ms. Chai explains of her then-unborn daughter in the documentary.
“But she was diagnosed with a benign tumor and had to have surgery after birth,” she adds. “I’d never felt afraid of pollution before, and never wore a mask no matter where. But when you carry a life in you, what she breathes, eats and drinks are all your responsibility, and then you feel the fear.”
On Youku, a popular Chinese video-sharing site, “Under the Dome” had been played more than 14 million times by Sunday afternoon. The Paper, a Chinese news website, estimated that by Saturday night, the documentary had been opened more than 35 million times across various websites.
Many Chinese viewers praised Ms. Chai for forthrightly condemning the skein of industrial interests, energy conglomerates and bureaucratic hurdles that she says have obstructed stronger action against pollution.
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While the documentary has gripped almost 40 million Chinese so far, what is perhaps more intriguing is that the Chinese government has not shut it down yet...
So far at least, the government has not shut off the documentary, and some officials may welcome the chance to build greater support for cutting pollution. The website of People’s Daily, the ruling Communist Party’s main newspaper, was one of the first to post “Under the Dome.” And the recently appointed minister of environmental protection, Chen Jining, praised the video. He told Sina.com, a Chinese website, that he had watched it and sent a message to Ms. Chai.
“Chai Jing’s documentary calls for public environmental consciousness from the standpoint of public health,” Mr. Chen said. “It deserves admiration.”
Does this suggest there is a growing conflict between Beijing and the Chinese Industrial Complex (as the corruption probe grows and impacts multiple industries). Further, this of course, means even more Chinese growth slowdown if and when there is a crackdown on pollution/rampant industrialization.
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Civil war among elite in China long time brewing.
Jinping has no time to ally with Putin or oppose USA. He has his own issues over there.
He may have issues but he will need to watch his back. Expect closer ties with Russia.
Yet here in the states they are trying to ban wood burning stoves....
By the way... Which one's PINK?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrojrDCI02k
"Run, rabbit run
Dig that hole, forget the sun
And when at last the work is done
Don't sit down
It's time to dig another one"
I'm running! I'm running!
They allow class action lawsuits in China, don't they?
Looks like the Chinese lawyers have learned a thing or two from our friends in JYC
hot and sour air.
But but wait! Aren't the Chinese are so smart because they apparently buy so much gold?
I've told you guys here time and again: the Chinese couldn't organize a binge drinking party in a brewery.They can't plan ahead, they don't think about any medium or long term consequences. The only thing they can do is follow order and the only thing they're interested in is an even quicker Buck than most Americans and they're willing to poison their entire country and bribe any corrupt official in the process. With every problem they 'solve,' newer and bigger problems emerge;
student protests in 1989? --> jobs and factories
cheap Yuan and massive trade surplus <--> accumulate Dollars and Treasuries
uncertainty about the Dollar? --> buy gold
massive housing, stock exchange and credit bubbles? --> massive QE
Just like Japan, the Chinese have also reached the end of that very same 'let's-turn-our-nation-into-an-overnight-export-economy' dead end street. They've cheapened their currency, they've inflated their economy, they've ruined their envirnonment, they've pimped and maipulated the ecnonomic data, they've accumulated trillions of USD and Treasuries, they manipulate and spy on their own citizens in a way that would make the NSA jealous and now they desperately want to prop it all up with massive amounts of QE.
Maybe if we tax the people in Kansas.....we can stop this Chinese air pollution problem.
To make such ignorant remarks of an entire race...yup must be some asshole on ZH.
China has 4x the population of America in less than half the space. The have to be a lot more maleable to the times. In the long run, they will dominate America for the simple reason that, regardless of whether or not China can survive without the US, or their ability to augur future events, they are much more efficient because their culture/lifestyle demands it.
Their research, especially in nanotechnology, is greater than the US. They publish more peer reveiwed papers, etc. Walk into any engineering department in any top ten US university and half of the PhD's and graduate students are Chinese.
They are distancing themselves from the US every day. Why is buying gold in your opinion a bad idea? Or stimulating their manufacturing? Sure they have pollution, but a massive amount of their research has gone into environmental engineering.
Remember, only when things become dire do countries really sink money into R&D. Its like the Japanese car industry back in the 80's when they thought that the US would overtake them with hybrid tech. The US automakers were just BSing the gov into getting grants, while the Japanese actually furthered the tech, and now they are the 1st in hybrid technology. China is on the same path. While we take for granted clean water, and air, they will be pouring billions into R&D.
You think America can plan ahead? The only thing America is interested in is maintaining the status quo, which is pumping dumb money through a more horrible by the day bureacracy.
Right on.
If you're a white kid from America in a STEM field, you're the minority .
Most American kids are not gettng good jobs when they grow up.
That job is for Zing Li and Kumar Patel
Epic post Bokkenrijder +1
"You're a righteous soul who went down the rabbit hole discovering everything is manufactured everyone is bought and sold"
https://soundcloud.com/supercolliders/sheep-dog-demo-sneak-peek
makes me love my old analog board
I'm more worried about inhaling a molecule of plutonium, than a little wood smoke. Unless you stick your head in the chimney, wood smoke isn't going to kill you.
One microgram of Plutonium can ruin your whole day.
A mere presense of Obamium within a 50-state radius may ruin your whole life.
57 states. Obama has said so.
The real problem with Obamium is that it may break down into Hillarium soon. Then watch out.
We legalized some folks?
24/7 air pollution is terrible... with my softer western lungs I was being a tourist in a polluted third world country and within a week I was hacking and coughing every time I went outside. I don't think their buses have air filters either so coughing continued within the bus. Weaksauce!!!
We need to export our EPA. Give them something to do. Fresh fields to work with. Imagine the fines. Imagine the overflowing .gov coffers. And imagine what a thumping, thriving place China would be. They can offshore their heavy industry too... too...Mars, yeah Mars. Coal, steel, aluminum, ships, heavy tooling and machinery, white goods, electronics. Who needs that shit.
Snark, not sarc.
With diminishing returns for all those billions 'invested' in 'Green Technology,' a LOT could be achieved for very little money in China!
I went for a run in LA and coughed for a week afterward. My white t shirt had a brown tint to it as well. Flying out the low clouds were brown. At least in the midwest it's too windy to accumulate much crap.
a little quality control would be great also - ya know, like when they dig up a bunch of coal with uranium in it and burned it anyway, the cloud descended on the city and my buddy was blowing crap out his nose that appeared to suggest he had a yellow highlighter up there
Yes, the one and very same people who not many years ago encouraged using wood burning stoves because it was sustainable, now want to out law them because it is sooty. Same folks, BTW who protested big government intrusions into every facet of life and the Vietnam War back in the '70s now at the Vanguard of Progressive Fascism ...
Whoda thunk a buncha self-centered megalomaniacal anally retentive folks of the "me" generation woulda turned out like. (Silence on war)
Very true. When it's all about "me" why shouldn't it be "me" who gets to decide everything and tell the much less important "you" what they should be doing?
NIMBYism at its finest, is when you get these 'environmental' types whose TRUE concern is keeping wind turbines out of their neighborhood. Oh its not that they have a problem with wind energy, or wind turbines. Only when it is in their backyard do they suddenly find a reason to oppose (any and all) development...
What's funny is my county recently had an open forum on banning wood burning stoves.
When our county is in fact located where US Magnesium is located roughly 15 miles away.
http://www.utahstories.com/2014/01/air-pollution-in-utah/
The amount of chemicals they spit out is insane, I work right next to US mag, We walk around with resperators just incase the wind changes and the chlorine drops down with the wind.
Scary shit when it does.
wood burning stoves are not the problem, arguably they are part of the solution. there are ways to manufacture the worlds trinkets in an environmentally friendly way, it's just that the elite would only get 70% of the worlds wealth instead of 90%... apparently they feel that the earth is acceptable collateral damage for sitting on humongous piles of gold and precious jools... retards
Agreed. Increasing agrarian self-sufficiency, especially in developing countries in a valid way to counter the Empire.
When you see "well-meaning" folk like Bill Gates say they want to end poverty in Africa. What they mean is that they want to turn them into debt slaves.
And the same politicians fall into depressions when Boeing and Airbus sell less planes or if less planes are flying.
It's a smoke and mirrors world.
That's even the good news.
The bad news is that the majority of people do not recognize it.
"Keep your hands off my body!"
But my, how they're all grown up now.
"Put your hands in my neighbors pocket, gimme my Fareeeee! ObamaCare!!!"
Pure-Fucking-Insanity.
Did you just compare the anti-war movement with the anti-"soot" movement? Talk about a drama queen.
The scientific consensus is in, we need soot to stop AGW!
That is a threat.
The average for February here was nearly 15 degrees below normal.
Clearly this calls for yet moar Executive Action. I'm thinkin skies filled with drones over the poles, with soot filled Hellfire missles, the science is in!...oh wait, a humanitarian expedition to evacuate the polar bears first.
Long polar bear cages, tell CNBC analysts everywhere...go long polar bear cages and kitty litter and short corded dildo's! ;-)
of course that means entirely stop talking about the east coast since its colder and snowier than since the late 70s, and absolutely definitely focus on the great depression dust bowl happening in california. it must be because the co2 concentration is higher, that's the ticket.
fuggin facepalm.... all for cleaning up the environment.....entirely against pseudo science that relies entirely on poor applications of statistics to attempt prove its point.
All martyrs for a cause need to die first...
So basically its all knukle's generation's fault.
Actually, it makes sense, they're retired and have their "fuck you" money, so they could care less what happens to anyone else.
The enviro-freaks are militant, intolerant, and unsatiable. That wood-burning stoves is the current battlefront shows how successful they have been.
We can't allow wood to compete with imported oil, fracked nat gas, and filthy coal. That just wouldn't be sustainable.
I burn wood for part of my heat. Been doing it for 40 years. Payment for the wood goes right into the pocket of the guy that delivered it. I cut and split it myself for about 25 years with just muscle, time and equipment maintenance. What the hell are you supposed to do if it is 10 below and there is a power failure? Complain to a regulator and freeze?
The solution to pollution is LFTR's - and that needs to be pointed out endlessly until it becomes politically mainstream
- 1-2 cents / kwh
- Can be used to eliminate waste Uranium (Fukushima)
- Will power the entire earths energy needs for the next 1000 years.
- Will eliminate dirty burning coal.
Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactors - google LFTR in 5 minutes..
The nuclear power of 30 years FROM NOW will be much different than the nuclear power FROM 30 years ago. Here's to hoping it all comes to fruition.
He can do nothing until he eliminates the opposition.
He is now turning inwards, like all chinese leaders end up doing historically
b,b,but he's been invited to meet HM ...
dup
I can't breathe !!
We earthings are a massively screwed up species.
"if the planet dies, they die, but if they die, the planet lives"
The Day the Earth Stood Still
Something to think about in that plot.
There are some who think of man in terms of a parasite killing the host, Mother Earth as well as himself.
Which really both a bit overly dramatic and in error.
Mother Earth will be here long after man's gone.
Agent Smith: I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You're a plague and we are the cure.
The Matrix
Yeast grows until it consumes all nutrients. As Jack London's character Wolf Larsen said something like "people are no different than foaming yeast."
Every life form overconsumes until nature forces equilibrium. There is no such thing as stability in nature. Look at any ecosystem an you will see predator and prey in flux. Depending on resources there is growth, with inevitable overshoot, and decline.
Everything moves in a helix (two dimensionally visualized as a wave).
Agent Smith was speaking from a position of ignorance. He was right about us, but wrong about everything else.
Vonnegut, Breakfast of Champions
Robbins, Another Roadside Attraction
good sh*t!! as curly bill said "that's our kinda stuff!!!" or something :-) home brew really is the way to go, again more labor, but hey
You really cant beat home brew, a five gallon bucket of love.
"Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment"
Hardly. Mammals dying from an equilibrium change of lack of food is not instinctive, it is starvation. Lack of water, increased predation, volcanism, disease, etc. Dumb matter responding to dumb matter, nothing to brag about there.
Upsetting to some, man is no longer a passive victim as some wish him to be. But I sure hope the critics will return to being victims.
"Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not."
There is a convoluted irony in using a Hollywood movie to make a point about humans/mammals that is belied by lemmings.
Meh. Planet is likely to die someday, with or without humans. Nothing lasts forever.
Honestly I think 90 to 98% of us are fine, if a little stupid. The problem is 1-2% are sociopaths, and are pretty much completely OK with killing others for material gain. (It may not being instant death, but it's the same.) Almost all the "screwed up species" things you'd point at, when you dig, come down to one of these assholes throwing everyone else under the bus, usually for some sort of incredibly short-sighted gain.
well said.
I do wonder if, incl. borderline sociopaths, the number isn't closer to 5 or 6%.
I think that the 0.001% are doing all they can to increase the 1-2% numbers.
If you know these people the 0.001% won't be in the same room as the 0.01% who won't be in the same room with the 0.1% who won't be in the same room with 1% who won't be in the same room with the 10%...then you arrive at the normal people.
No sacrifice is too big for Wal-Mart.......
Hopefully 200M of these cockroaches croak from the pollution. And we get our jobs back again.
Careful what you wish for...unless you're keen on working for FoxConn. ;)
(not my down arrow, BTW)
Americans will grow up wishing they had a job at Fox Con.
Dey terk our jerbs.
No, asshole. Our politicians paved the way for our Fortune 500 CEO's to give American jobs away.
And heeeeeeeeeeer's the Trans Pacific Partnership!
When do we get to see that agreement again, I forgot?
interdependence is necessary for control
Correct again. You're on a roll!
Actually, it would be far better if 200 million of your ilk died. Immediately.
A couple billion would be better.
Six Zionists voted Frank's post up.
Market opportunity.
Bad in Mexico too.
The nickel mines in Canada and "strip mining for oil" in Alberta are an abomination. Too much debt, bad Government, bad money you name it. "Everything is broken."
What!?!?!
Strip mining the northern half of the province is totally sustainable. They are leaving and ENTIRE half of a province! WTF do you damn greenies want anyway!?!
i.e. they commissioned it.
Aw.... you mean a pollution tax in China? Whodathunk?
We asphyxiated some folks.
We outsourced our pollution to some folks.
Breathe, breathe in the air.
Don't be afraid to care.
Leave but don't leave me.
Look around and choose your own ground.
oops... gotcha upstairs!
One of my all-time favorite albums (they are pressing them in vinyl, again, for high end audiophiles, if you can believe that).
priceless
but really its gold and white I mean black and blue...
LOL! 30 million....2.194% of the population!
Score!
let's provide zh info for 2% of USA and revolution tomorrow
2% of the population in two days.
Methinks you expect too much.
where is my canned air order!
Feb. 26, 2014
The pollution is threatening lives and cropsOn Wednesday morning in Beijing, we fitted our two boys with their mini-masks and sent them off to school. Air pollution, according to the U.S. embassy index, had hit a dangerous particulate concentration of 497. (The World Health Organization warns against daily exposure to PM2.5 fine particulates above 25.) At 500 on the Beijing scale—which the U.S. embassy has dryly dubbed “beyond index” because who would think air pollution could climb so high?—school would be shuttered. Three index points were all that were keeping our kids in class.
By the time our children, ages 6 and 4, were starting school, the U.S. air-quality index had hit 512. By 11:00 am, it had reached 537. The air is off-the-charts bad. The U.S. embassy cautions that at this level, “everyone may experience more serious health effects.” Even the Chinese government, whose own air-quality monitoring often records pollution at a lower intensity than the American embassy does, recommends that residents should wear masks and avoid outdoor activities.
As the foul air intensified over the weekend, the nation’s senior climate-change official noted that “China’s pollution is at an unbearable stage.” Another scientist compared the smog blanket to living through a “nuclear winter” because the air is so impenetrable that crops are not getting enough light and becoming stunted, threatening disaster for many farmers.
http://time.com/9802/beijing-air-pollution-nuclear-winter/
Air Pollution Linked to 1.2 Million Premature Deaths in Chinahttp://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/02/world/asia/air-pollution-linked-to-1-2...
So maybe the Chinese are trying to fight global warming.
... at least they don't spit and blow their snot on the gournd in public as much as they used to.
That's progress.
Dear Comrades, with this introduction to the subject of externalities you have completed your tutelage in capitalism.
Those interested in chelation and chemotherapy please form a line here.
Chelation will, in fact, reduce heavy metal poisoning.
Chemo..., just more poison.
Bad Kaiser! Money can be made off of both!
Shhhush!
Next you'll be complaining about Monsanto's New Organic Line of Fruit and Vegetable Line which Self Eradicates all Known Pests.
Since I have always been a known pest, I have mixed feelings about that.
Environmental protection is good cover for slower growth. Plus slower growth involves shutting factories, so the air improves. Beijing turning lemons into lemonade.
Yep. If the government acknowledges it, they damn well sponsored it.
I missed the Scottish wedding dress, sounds intriguing, where can it be found.....?
It's actually soot brown.
http://www.wired.com/2015/02/science-one-agrees-color-dress/
It's fucking orange.
"Heads will roll (literally). This is not remaining public without the wishes of the Chinese government and the military generals who actually own China Inc. They are setting up a LONG list of those who will be blamed. But first they need the Chinese peope accepting and almost demanding massive "changes" (meaning executions on a scale not seen since days of Mao). Goverment and military are to blame but they need to shift blame to others and this film is the start to do just that. "Under the hood" MOST countries are in total turmoil far more than the United States is experiencing. None more so than China and Russia in that order.
Unfortunately such utter chaos usually ends in great loss of life either inside a country or in the counry as well as others. This could extend all the way to WW3. They and Russia and the US have hit the end of the dead end alley "kicking the can down the road". NOW when they kick the can - it hits the wall and bounces back at them! As they say in war movies "Battle stations! this is not a drill! repeat, this is not a drill".
A great article by John Michael Greer,
The air/water/soil quality in China degrades because a world's worth level of MFG was transfered to China. For example, All the Externalized MFG costs that the US used to pay(say in Pittsburgh et al) got moved to China.
The Externality Trap, or, How Progress Commits Suicide
http://www.resilience.org/stories/2015-02-26/the-externality-trap-or-how-progress-commits-suicide"...Like the costs of dealing with blivet waste, though, the other externalized costs of blivet manufacture don’t go away just because they’re externalized. As externalities increase, they tend to degrade the whole systems onto which they’re dumped—the economy, society, and the biosphere. This is where the trap closes tight, because blivet manufacturing exists within those whole systems, and can’t be carried out unless all three systems are sufficiently intact to function in their usual way. As those systems degrade, their ability to function degrades also, and eventually one or more of them breaks down—the economy plunges into a depression, the society disintegrates into anarchy or totalitarianism, the biosphere shifts abruptly into a new mode that lacks adequate rainfall for crops—and the manufacture of blivets stops because the whole system that once supported it has stopped doing so.
Notice how this works out from the perspective of someone who’s benefiting from the externalization of costs by the blivet industry—the executives and stockholders in a blivet corporation, let’s say. As far as they’re concerned, until very late in the process, everything is fine and dandy: each new round of technological improvements in blivet fabrication increases their profits, and if each such step in the onward march of progress also means that working class jobs are eliminated or offshored, democratic institutions implode, toxic waste builds up in the food chain, or what have you, hey, that’s not their problem—and after all, that’s just the normal creative destruction of capitalism, right? ....
Does that mean they can't grow any more MSG?
And when it's done, they move to Paraguay. IBGYBG!
Was trying to figure out what is IBGYBG and the best I could come up with was:
I Be Gone You Be Gone!
Nailed it.
The Chinese managed to clean up the air for the 2008 summer Olympics, at least temporarily. They did it by banning a million cars from the streets just before the games. Will the Japanese be able to do a similar cleanup of Fukushima for the 2020 summer Olympics?
Maybe, but they will probably have to be imported from other countries as there may not.be.enough.Japs.around.by then.
They just aint making them like they used to.
Where did you get this info? Did you hear it from your Relative-Sex Partner who read it from the National Enquirer during a Piggly-Wiggly Run?
Probably; but Fukushima Reactors are a bit away from Tokyo, so there might be a few Tourists and Treehuggers who might try something during the Games.
I say, "try" because they'll probably have plainclothed Cops lining the streets (e.g., Beijin Games Torch run - they had more Cops than spectators; and one Moron who tried to start something was "sat upon" by a mob rush of plainclothed and Uniformed Cops).
There's a huge push for H2 FCVs that kicked off several weeks ago. That will be the talk of the Town.
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24880737
I wonder what the rates are for the other lung diseases like COPD, etc.
I've lived and worked in China. It's almost healthier to smoke than breathe.
The person with the longest documented lifespan smoked for 95 years.
This is basically the lords and masters giving the commoners an emotional wedgie.
I love to smoke. Even if it ends up shortening my lifespan, I see no reason to quit. My time on earth is but a blink of the eye, might as well enjoy it.
That being said, I've been getting into rolling my own cigarettes. That way I can know what's going in to them.
step 2, grow it... they grow like tomato plants, buy burley type seeds, and
3. you gotta hang it at approx. 100F for about 30 days (attic or modified oven or shed w/ wood burning stove
step 4, carve you a pipe :-)
Thanks for the input
Now that I've bought the farm, so to speak, tobacco is one crop I intend to grow. That way I can be absolutely certain of what I'm smoking. I'm not sure what they put into machine made cigarettes, but I doubt it's anything good.
Have several pipes. Don't really like pope smoking. I guess I just don't have the time for it.
Acolytes don't like pope smoking either
Serves them right for all of us heathens they have smoked in the past.
growing stuff the old fashioned way is hard work, but it's worth it to know you can sustain yourself w/o having to rely on others or some monetary scheme... I've grown as many as 60 plants once (wasted a bunch)... try 20 plants to start, i recommended burley for a reason :-) i didn't have network access for over a decade and had someone get me some virginia golden variety seeds - it's a tough smoke straight up, you'll read on that i assume - good luck, aint hard
I appreciate the information. First hand accounts of things is the reason I keep coming back to this site. I like to comments section better than the articles usually.
I grew burley summers between college to pay for it, along with hauling hay and general farm labor. We just hung it in the barnfrom labor day til november. When it's brown its ready to strip the leaves and bale it for sale. If you were going to smoke it you would want a blend of tobaccos. We never raised dark due to the process of smoking the tobacco (like smoking meat) pain in the butt. With burley you hang it in the barn a coupla months.
"If you were going to smoke it you would want a blend of tobaccos."
Please, if I might be so bold, why?
And blend it with what?
I know I could research this myself, but my thought is that you might in a simple sentence or two offhand explain this.
Thanking you in advance ...
Teacher Teacher I have a question. No not that.
Pittsburgh had pollution problems and then after the oligarchs shipped all the jobs to China it went away. If the Chinese ship all the jobs back to Pittsburgh won't that get rid of their pollution?
I been telling you guys over and over, the Chinese are the absolute best at killing their own people. One despotic regime after another for thousands of fucking years now. How many tens of millions under Mao alone? 60, 70 MILLION?
And now they want to "expand" their "operations".......shit.
And guess who loves that chinese murdering tyranny? Yeah you guessed it, progressive do. They can't bend over far enough for chinese murderers.
http://freebeacon.com/politics/dirty-harrys-clean-energy-cronyism/
"Dirty Harry’s Clean Energy Cronyism
How Harry Reid has been pulling strings for Chinese solar energy company" http://www.cbsnews.com/news/first-lady-michelle-obama-travels-to-china/ "First lady Michelle Obama faces scrutiny for China trip with daughters, mom"I really don't care what china does, let them murder their own people. But fuck them too, America needs its jobs back. We should not be doing the progressive "bend over" for those assholes, destroying our manufacturing base and jobs.
Grimaldus
I agree. China has never had a shortage of people, hence the low price of human life over there. I've seen it with my own eyes.
Also agree about the progs. In a more civilized age they would be tarred and feathered as a public nuisance.
Only one problem though: if we bring back all the manufacturing jobs from china, we bring back some of the pollution. Not all, as Chinese factories are generally energy inefficient. But certainly some. How much are we willing to bear in order to have good jobs again?
Very good point on the pollution. I do not have much tolerance for it.
I have been wanting to do more fishing here in Texas and so went over the Texas State Parks and Wildlife fish consumption bans and advisories again just this morning.
http://tpwd.texas.gov/regulations/outdoor-annual/fishing/general-rules-regul
ations/fish-consumption-bans-and-advisories
Not a good report IMHO.
Pollution has to be dealt with. I have been in semiconductor manufacturing quite some time (remember 256k DRAMS?) and we jump thru major hoops to scrub all emissions to nothing. And we still make money.
Grimaldus
I went to China for two weeks and not once did I see a blue sky.
have you paid for that?
blue sky is soo 2000
In the industrial city where I work, I've been able to stare at the noonday sun without glasses.
Oddly enough, it is almost impossible to get a sun burn in DC. Ozone from all the traffic filters out the UV rays.
They also have one hell of a pseudo estrogen problem in the water. Can't hurt Barry, though, unless he starts singing soprano.
I understand the pseudo estrogen problem is common in many municipal water supplies.
Makes me glad I'm on a well. No fluoride either.
See, there is an upside. Good for you!
I live in Qingdao. We actually see the sky and have clean air most of the time.
Blue skies in China were traded for blue Ipods
Some suggest the US should do the same, "to remain competitive"
We should also live 15 to a 10 x 10 room, "to remain competitive
Looks like Russia will have a very grateful partner.
Good for her to question authority. I was going to give the whole thing a go but I ran out of English subtitles at eight minutes and my Mandarin is non-existent. I think I get the point and I would listen to whole thing if I could understand it.
The only thing with article that I didn't understand is the Scottish dress reference. Is that some new meme? I would be a little more cautious of using the sweeping term "American Citizenry" to describe all of us. To the contrary, I have been looking at trying to find some smokeless powder and some 22LR to no avail for what amounts to going on three years now. I worry about things like the .gov gas cans we have to deal with now.
I like my metal NATO cans.
China is going to demand a massive migration of Chinese to America.
And Americans to China.
'Get your bags packed!
Thanks Wall Street for doing your part to support so many polluting industries in China for so many decades now. I wanted the industries here, but nooo, you had to send them all to China and Mexico.
Paging Algore...Paging Mr Algore...carbon credits needed stat.
35 years of shipping our jobs over there to buy Chinese slave goods. Its better for us all. Pollution of the air and water is collateralc damage. the greater good for us all is in free trade. NAFTA GATT WTO TPP. That's what I've been told for the last 35 years. Thanks Ron, George Bill George2 and Barry. we love you all.
THis is simple. The assumption that the Government is run by corporations does not apply in China. In China the Gov governs, and is not hostage to votes, so they do not need to promise entitlements (there is no safety net in China) nor do they need Coporations to contribute to the Campaign, so the Gov does not give a shit if the policy does not please corporations. They are in power, they are not puppets.
Everyone can see the obvious but no one is speaking of water contamination and of course the epidemic spike in cancer in China...
If anyone cared they wouldnt buy things made in China, and this illistrates why everything is made in china.
Faced with spending money on meating enviromental standards and not having as big a bonus or making it in china where there are lower standards and getting more golf trips on the corporate jet the choice is clear.
Ok, so their pollution and lung cancer rates are soaring. So where do they move? To the Fuki saturated shores of Cali!?
Aftermath!