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Russia Warns NATO: Any Threat In Ukraine Will See Military Response

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As Russia announces the expansion of its Navy by 50 vessels this year, including two new nuclear-powered submarines and an aircraft carrier, it appears NATO's sabre-rattling has drawn a response/threat/warning. Following British plans to send military 'advisers' into Ukraine (which NATO has stated are not confirmed), TASS reports, Russia's NATO envoy, Alexander Grushko, warns Russia will take all measures against possible NATO threat in Ukraine, adding that Russia’s response may include military measures.

 

As TASS reports,

NATO has taken no decisions on sending British or any other instructors to Ukraine, Russia’s Ambassador to the North Atlantic Alliance Alexander Grushko said on Monday.

 

"NATO has taken no decisions on sending instructors," he told the Rossiya 24 television channel. "NATO is implementing the decisions that were taken at the political level at the Wales summit in September 2014."

 

Moscow will take all measures, including military-technical, to neutralize possible threat from NATO presence in Ukraine, he added.

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And this is happening as Russia dramatically expands its military forces. As The Moscow Times reports,

The Russian navy will receive 50 vessels of various sizes and classes this year, navy Chief Admiral Viktor Chirkov was quoted as saying by the Interfax news agency on Monday.

 

The new boats are part of a rearmament program begun under President Vladimir Putin that aims to provide Russia with a navy capable of operating far away from home — a capability lost after the collapse of the Soviet Union — by 2050. Russia's navy today is largely relegated to a coastal defense role.

 

"The period of stagnation in the development of our potential has long since passed," Chirkov said.

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And here is The West's defence...

 

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Of course all this military machismo comes as Russia and Ukraine hold emergency talks in Brussels over gas supply amid imminent cutoff threats for non-payment. As AP reports,

Russia and Ukraine's energy ministers are holding emergency talks after the Russian gas supplier said it would cut off deliveries to the war-torn country as soon as Tuesday if it does not get new payments.

 

The European Union, which is mediating the talks in Brussels hoping to keep gas flowing despite the dispute, imports around 40 per cent of its gas from Russia, half through conflict-torn Ukraine.

 

Kyiv and Moscow have fought out several gas price wars over the past years and concerns are mounting that any fresh cuts could again hit European supplies.

 

Cash-strapped Ukraine is struggling to buy time and made a $15 million payment last week, but Moscow says that will cover only a day's worth of gas, leaving a potential cutoff looming Tuesday.

 

Arriving for talks with his Ukrainian counterpart Volodymyr Demchyshyn and the European Union's energy chief Maros Sefcovic, Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak acknowledged the "need to resume an energy dialogue."

 

Russia has said that it will cut supplies unless Kyiv pre-pays for gas it wants to use. Ukraine, meanwhile, accuses Russia of failing to abide by its contractual obligations.

 

Complicating the dispute are deliveries to Ukraine's rebel-held east, where fighting between Kyiv's forces and Russia-backed rebels has killed nearly 5,800 people.

 

Kyiv cut gas supplies to rebel-held areas last week, prompting Russia to pump gas there directly. Russia said those deliveries should be counted in gas exports to Ukraine.

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"Peace Deal"?

 

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Mon, 03/02/2015 - 15:32 | 5846436 Jonesy
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Putin knows, it's either him or the JWO.  He isn't waiting around for the west to make him into a Khaddafi, Saddam Hussein, or Assad.  Don't fuck with the BEAR!!

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 19:34 | 5847529 nuke ISIS now
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lol...lol..lol

 

Your destitute CUNTry's economy is free falling so Pootie trying to create a diversion...you fucking steaming porcelin stool, you really think that any action against the US would not resultin in retaliation / annihilation of Russia, you fucking moron

Oh by the way thanks to you dumbfucks being broke and drunk in 1867, you sold us Alaska...for a song..thanks for the strategic land to invade you with

Some things never change, you dumbfucks are still broke, and drunk

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 19:43 | 5847586 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Oh, look, it's Captain Butthole.

He even makes his grandma sick.

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 19:47 | 5847608 nuke ISIS now
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Shemp!  my pal, buddy how the fuck are ya?

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 19:45 | 5847595 nuke ISIS now
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Purchase

"Russia was in a difficult financial position and feared losing Russian America without compensation in some future conflict, especially to the British, whom they had fought in the Crimean War (1853–1856). While Alaska attracted little interest at the time, the population of nearby British Columbia started to increase rapidly a few years after hostilities ended, with a large gold rushthere prompting the creation of a British crown colony on the mainland in addition to that already established on Vancouver Island, where the French and British fleets had retreated after the Battle of Petropavlovsk in the Russian Far East.

The Russians decided that in any future war with Britain, their hard-to-defend colony might become a prime target, and would be easily captured. Therefore, the Russian Emperor Alexander II decided to sell the territory. Perhaps in the hope of starting a bidding war, both the British and the Americans were approached. However the British expressed little interest in buying Alaska. In 1859 the Russians offered to sell the territory to the United States, hoping that its presence in the region would offset the plans of Russia's greatest regional rival, Great Britain. However, no deal was reached, as the American Civil War was a more pressing concern in Washington.[6][7]

Grand Duke Konstantin, a younger brother of the Tsar, began to press for the handover of Russian America to the United States in 1857. In a memorandum to Foreign Minister Alexander Gorchakov he stated that

"we must not deceive ourselves and must foresee that the United States, aiming constantly to round out their possessions and desiring to dominate undividedly the whole of North America will take the afore-mentioned colonies from us and we shall not be able to regain them."[8]

This proposal was a topic in the higher echelons of the Russian government throughout 1857 and 1858.[8] Konstantin's letter was shown to his brother, Tsar Alexander II, who wrote "this idea is worth considering" on the front page.[9] Supporters of Konstantin's proposal to immediately withdraw from North America included Admiral Yevfimy Putyatin and the Russian minister to the United States, Eduard de Stoeckl. Gorchakov agreed with the necessity of abandoning Russian America, but argued for a gradual process leading to its sale.[9] He found a supporter in the Naval Minister and former Chief Manager of the Russian-American Company (RAC), Ferdinand von Wrangel. Wrangel pressed for some proceeds to be invested in the economic development of Kamchatka and the Amur Basin.[9] The Emperor eventually sided with Gorchakov, deciding to postpone negotiations until the end of the RAC's patent, set to expire in 1861.

Over the winter of 1859-1860 De Stoeckl held meetings with American officials, though he had been instructed not to initiate discussions about the sale of the RAC assets. Communicating primarily with Assistant Secretary of State John Appleton and Senator William M. Gwin, De Stoeckl reported the interest expressed by the Americans in acquiring Russian America.[9] While President James Buchanan kept these hearings informal, preparations were made for further negotiations.[9] Senator Gwin tendered a hypothetical[clarification needed] offer of five million dollars for the Russian colony, a figure Gorchakov found far too low. De Stoeckl informed Appleton and Gwin of this, the latter saying that his Congressional colleagues in Oregon and California would support a larger figure.[9] Buchanan's increasingly unpopular presidency forced the matter to be shelved until a new presidential election. With the oncoming American Civil War, De Stoeckl proposed a renewal of the RAC's charter. Two of its ports were to be open to foreign traders and commercial agreements with Peru and Chile to be signed to give "a fresh jolt" to the Company.[9]

Additionally, the Russian Crown sought to repay money to its landowners after its emancipation reform of 1861 and borrowed 15 million pounds sterling from Rothschilds at 5% annually.[10] When the time came to repay the loan, the Russian Government was short of funds.

Russia continued to see an opportunity to weaken British power by causing British Columbia, including the Royal Navy base at Esquimalt, to be surrounded or annexed by American territory.[11] Following the Union victory in the Civil War, the Tsar instructed the Russian minister to the United States, Eduard de Stoeckl, to re-enter into negotiations with William Seward in the beginning of March 1867. The negotiations concluded after an all-night session with the signing of the treaty at 4 a.m. on March 30, 1867,[12] with the purchase price set at $7.2 million, or about 2 cents per acre ($4.74/km2).[13]

American public opinion was not universally positive; to some the purchase was known as Seward's Folly. Nonetheless, most newspaper editors argued that the U.S. would probably derive great economic benefits from the purchase; friendship with Russia was important; and it would facilitate the acquisition of British Columbia.[14] Forty-five percent of newspapers endorsing the purchase cited the increased potential for annexing British Columbia in their support.[11] Historian Ellis Paxson Oberholtzer summarized the minority opinion of some American newspaper editors who opposed the purchase:[15]

Already, so it was said, we were burdened with territory we had no population to fill. The Indians within the present boundaries of the republic strained our power to govern aboriginal peoples. Could it be that we would now, with open eyes, seek to add to our difficulties by increasing the number of such peoples under our national care? The purchase price was small; the annual charges for administration, civil and military, would be yet greater, and continuing. The territory included in the proposed cession was not contiguous to the national domain. It lay away at an inconvenient and a dangerous distance. The treaty had been secretly prepared, and signed and foisted upon the country at one o'clock in the morning. It was a dark deed done in the night… The New York World said that it was a "sucked orange." It contained nothing of value but furbearing animals, and these had been hunted until they were nearly extinct. Except for the Aleutian Islands and a narrow strip of land extending along the southern coast the country would be not worth taking as a gift… Unless gold were found in the country much time would elapse before it would be blessed with Hoe printing presses, Methodist chapels and a metropolitan police. It was "a frozen wilderness."

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Mon, 03/02/2015 - 15:34 | 5846444 me or you
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NATO doesn't want to go to war against Russia, NATO just want its budget to be boost.

NATO rolls out 'Russian threat' in budget battle
Mon, 03/02/2015 - 16:36 | 5846783 dsty
Mon, 03/02/2015 - 15:37 | 5846456 Joe Tierney
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Well, if NATO really wants to dangle its nuts in Ukraine, they're going to have'em smashed between two flat rocks.

 

Putin's not kidding.

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 19:20 | 5847497 nuke ISIS now
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Thats great Joe, we hav a coupe Tridents to wake you fucks up to a microwaved morning..fuck you you fucking cocksucker

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 15:45 | 5846489 SMC
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“We came to die for you, and you don’t even want to do what you promised.”

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/27/isa-munayevs-war/

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 15:48 | 5846499 Jonesy
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How can Putin lose with such a large "Americans for Putin!" contingent?  The US is fucked, and has finally bit off more than it can chew.

Not that the Jews and Zionists in control care, it won't be their kids getting their skulls rolled over by tanks, they're going to send YOUR kids.  Those in control now will just move onto the next host while America is left a smoldering wasteland, a lot like they did to Germany, Libya, Palestine, etc.

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 15:54 | 5846528 DutchBoy2015
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It will be interesting to see Americunt troops in eastern Europe. Most people there smoke and we know smoking cigarettes is a mortal sin now in the USA.  

Imagine D-day without a smoke after surviving getting your head blown off.

And how will Americunt troops react when their boyfriends can sleep with them in the foxholes?

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 15:56 | 5846545 DutchBoy2015
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Americunt troops will be astonished and disgusted how Russians are actually heterosexuals and fuck sometimes 2 or 3 times a day.  Most actively sexual people on earth.

Guess those GI's will have to show them how to cornhole men and jack off .

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 16:48 | 5846742 Volkodav
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 American trolls can't normal hetrosex

 cos they brainwashed retrobates

 

 

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 19:17 | 5847484 nuke ISIS now
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great you are fucking drunks, AND AIDS infected, what a CUNT-ry

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 21:57 | 5848016 mendolover
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One of my favorite 'Sopranos' scenes - "I was my balls with ice water!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DAy8ygZUqo

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 16:08 | 5846591 me or you
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What the govt and MSM is not telling you.: American defense contractors now health care providers

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 16:10 | 5846601 DutchBoy2015
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You cannot beat someone in their own backyard. Especially when that backyard is 3 times the size of the USA.

Russians are real men fighting for their country.  American troops haven't fought for their country in decades.

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 19:13 | 5847473 Berspankme
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American troops fighting for Blankfein and Dimon

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 21:51 | 5847480 nuke ISIS now
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Really Dutchboy, plan is very smple we shower botles of vodka over the Russian infantry, then waitl till you dumb fucks get so besotted that we merely walk past you fucking drunken stooges, right CUM-rade?

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 16:12 | 5846612 me or you
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This is a great article about ISIS.: ISIS: What's really terrifying about this threat

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 16:36 | 5846788 vune
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EU blames Georgia for starting war with Russia

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/georgia/6247620/EU-blam...

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 16:46 | 5846843 Volkodav
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Telegraph slanted ....as normal

Murder Russian Peacekeepers, Russian and South Ossetians citizens will get a response:

http://www.alternet.org/story/112457/that_was_no_small_war_in_georgia_--_it_was_the_beginning_of_the_end_of_the_american_empire/

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 16:51 | 5846871 Hannibal
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Russia's border is still way too close to Nato's military bases.

http://thesaker.is/27-02-2015-ukrainian-crisis-news-latest-news-of-ukrai...

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 17:20 | 5847038 nah
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Ukraine is not a US territory or responsibility

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NATO and the US military is

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I don't know what Ukrainians want to do, really this is the worst thing for nuclear proliferation as I doubt they would have been invaded by a nation willing to threaten the US/NATO with Armageddon as a backdrop for seizing 60% of Ukraine coastline and 15% of their nation.

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If Ukraine fields a million men to defend the Slavic people and thereby their shared heritage with Russians in the face of oppression by humbling military capability and win I would not be surprised.

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if NATO is forced to deal with the real threat of nuclear Armageddon well that's what its there for.

 

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 17:46 | 5847135 Son of Captain Nemo
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And just to put a spot of "duck and cover" icing on the cake?!!!!

NORAD will be conducting nuclear deterrent exercises over Washington D.C. till 12:00am Thursday this week!!!

I can just picture Jack Lew, Stanley Fischer and Janet Yellen calling Dempsey and Odierno at the "puzzle palace" telling them...

We're Ready!!!

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 17:59 | 5847163 Hannibal
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..."We have reports from plane-spotters in the region of daily flights of mysterious planes from Israel to Qatar. We have several eye-witness reports and photographs of supply bundles dropped from unknown planes into ISIS territory.

Maybe ISIS has its own air force now? We know Turkey has served both as an entry point for countless terrorists into Syria and as a place of retreat and refuge when fighting with the Syrian army becomes too hot for them, the volumes of such activity having been too great to keep secret. We have reports of Turkish supply flights.

A Jordanian official recently told a reporter that ISIS members were trained in 2012 by American instructors working at a secret base in Jordan.

If ISIS is what our corporate news pretends that it is - a fanatical Muslim extremist group that sprang suddenly from the desert sands much like Jack's bean stalk - one blindingly obvious question is, why does it not attack Israel or Israeli interest?"

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/02-03-2015/129939-isis_threa...

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 17:56 | 5847165 JohninMK
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Gas supply seems to have been sorted in Brussels today. Basically Ukraine agreed to keep paying in advance for gas needed in March with Russia confirming no money no gas. Also, Russia agreed that the gas going directly into DNR/LPR would be excluded from the Ukraine pre-pay and would be subject to separate talks. Post March supply would be discussed later in the month.

http://sputniknews.com/business/2015...018970985.html

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 17:58 | 5847169 forputin
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putin regime just as strong as north korea - don't mess with us! We know how to threat others with nukes!

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 18:21 | 5847271 DutchBoy2015
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YOu are quite the suckass little asswipe mothefucking faggot shit for brains cockbite, aren't you sonny,

Ohh, yes I kiss my mother with this mouth.  

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 18:30 | 5847302 me or you
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I love th Obama's way: don't mess with us or I will turn your whole country into a homo nation just like I did with my own.

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 19:11 | 5847467 nuke ISIS now
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I love the Putin way, I fear that folks are on to me, so I will make sure to perpetrate ver public killings of any opposition, while Russia gets ushered into deeper and deeper isolation, with the eonomy and countr crumbling aroud him

 

WHat a CUNT-ry

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 19:36 | 5847549 me or you
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Who did rape you, your uncle or your father?

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 19:46 | 5847600 TheFourthStooge-ing
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They took turns with him.

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 20:59 | 5847844 Volkodav
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heh,,probably still are, judging from all the misplaced anger he blame other than who raped his

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 21:45 | 5847971 nuke ISIS now
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Vodka, quite the contrary, my anger could never be "misplaced" where confronted by cheerleaing Russian dickheads, that post paid propaganda

 

How many fifth's of Vodka tonight for you comrade?

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 21:41 | 5847960 nuke ISIS now
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What was it like having your sister and brother as parents?

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 18:07 | 5847211 JohninMK
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Looks like the financial 'nuclear' option is on the table. Ukraine's NBU released government debt figures through the end of 2014 - 71.5% of GDP. Russia has the option to call the $3 billion bond due if the debt levels hit over 60%.

http://www.epravda.com.ua/rus/news/2015/03/2/531730/

If the Russians demanded immediate repayment of their $3B it will put at risk their other money (probably not much chance of getting it back anyway in the next 20 years) but it would bankrupt Ukraine immediately. This would mean an end to current IMF loan plans and significant loss to current and future US investors.

Bit unlikely they will do it unless their back is really against the wall but an interesting negotiating point.

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 18:14 | 5847237 forputin
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70 000 Russians went out in streets to condemn Nemtsov assassination. They shout "Russia without putin! Russia without putin!"

http://youtu.be/vBoYv508ftQ

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 18:18 | 5847257 DutchBoy2015
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You lie , they were screaming  ''ZeroHedge without ForPutin''/

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 18:20 | 5847264 DutchBoy2015
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You could find 100k Americunts easily to scream  ''USA without the Mulatto Monkey.

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 19:08 | 5847456 nuke ISIS now
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Hey faggot Dutchboy, pull that Heieken out of your ass, you fucking douche cunt

Your wonderful Russia is about to undergo regime change

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 19:12 | 5847469 Anunnaki
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Chocula is that you?

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 18:25 | 5847281 dexter_morgan
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wow - they have rent-a-mobs in Russia just like here. Who knew? Drag a bottle of vodka around the streets of Moscow and never know what you'll get.

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 19:09 | 5847457 Berspankme
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any idea how much Soros was paying?

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 19:11 | 5847466 Anunnaki
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More like 15,000. nice try

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 21:50 | 5847993 Jorgen
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"70 000 Russians went out in streets to condemn Nemtsov assassination. They shout "Russia without putin! Russia without putin!"

Hmm, and some say Russia is not a democracy and Putin is a dictator...

On the other hand, try the same in New York or DC shouting "USA without Obama! USA without Obama!" and see what the consequences will be. You may even get a free lodging in Chicago for this.

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 18:18 | 5847254 forputin
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Thanks to putin attack on Ukraine, a new nation has born - proud Ukranians:

http://youtu.be/gWCvCy1U4fc

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 18:33 | 5847320 Max Steel
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you came late .

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 19:08 | 5847453 Berspankme
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he works for state department. monday is watch porn day from 9-4. He was busy jacking off

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 20:55 | 5847692 Volkodav
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majority looked beat down and about to cry...

cos Oligarchs used them...

 

what hell is that skinny thing trying to sing?

you trolls need feed them ukies something..

take a hint from ole Unknown Hinson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LJf9fYM8-s

 

 

 

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 23:42 | 5847407 Rootin' for Putin
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Don't worry folks, creepy uncle joes kid will find that shale gas soon.  Except he left his drilling equipment behind in the retreat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_3997972517&featur...

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 18:58 | 5847417 TeethVillage88s
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Chambawamba has this. He has been working to pull together the data from news sites. He will have an update soon.

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 19:07 | 5847448 me or you
Mon, 03/02/2015 - 19:38 | 5847565 Anunnaki
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Time out from trash talking with Kerry's paid trolls

The fact that Putin agrees that gas sent to Donbass does not count against Ukraine's allotment is de jure admission that DPR and LPR are no longer a part of Ukraine

Brilliant master stroke Vlad

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 19:47 | 5847609 dag
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US to Deploy Six National Guard Companies to Ukraine This Week

 

"WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — The United States will deploy personnel by the end of this week to train the Ukrainian national guard, US 173rd Airborne Brigade Commander Colonel Michael Foster said at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, DC on Monday.

 http://sputniknews.com/military/20150303/1018973141.html#ixzz3TH7CqQwQ

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 21:14 | 5847884 Volkodav
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But these trainers get high pay, while Ukies will hear excuses while their grannies freeze

Setting them up to get kicked in greater way.

pawns in the game

forgetting the foolish western regions, pollacks never learn...

real Ukraine needs resist

 

Tue, 03/03/2015 - 09:36 | 5849177 OutaTime43
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Are they going to teach them how to properly position the swastika on their helmets?

Mon, 03/02/2015 - 22:58 | 5848163 Overflow
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In case someone has missed this new release...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T65SwzHAbes

 

 

 

Tue, 03/03/2015 - 07:50 | 5848938 TeethVillage88s
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Apparently Bank lending has been slowing down in the West after Iraqi War II. So figure the West Wants Power Change in Russia (Putin Out) and it want higher investment from Russia and NATO in Defense Goodies. S/

Banker Profits will rise with the Threat of War in 2015, plus they get a chance at Intelligence Operations to put "Our Guys" into Russian Power Structure.

Wed, 04/01/2015 - 14:05 | 5949363 DiaaAttia
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