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As 1000s Mourn At Nemtsov's Funeral, Seven Main Conspiracy Theories Emerge
Tens of thousands marched Sunday through Central Moscow to honor Boris Nemtsov, outspoken opposition critic of Vladimir Putin who was murdered Friday night and thousands more mourned today at his funeral (though notably not Putin himself) and more pointedly, The BBC reports, several EU politicians and Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny were barred from attending the funeral. Hours later, Mr Navalny accused the Russian authorities of responsibility for the murder, adding to slew of competing theories involving everything from the CIA to Islamic militants and Ukrainian nationalists.
Thousands of Russians have bid farewell to murdered Russian opposition politician Boris Nemtsov as his funeral took place in the capital Moscow.
They queued patiently to view his coffin before it began its solemn journey to a city cemetery.
Several EU politicians and Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny were barred from attending the funeral.
Hours later, Mr Navalny accused the Russian authorities of responsibility for the murder.
In a statement (in Russian) from jail, where he is serving a 15-day sentence, he said: "I believe that Nemtsov was murdered by members of a government (special services) or pro-government organisation on the order of the country's political leadership (including Vladimir Putin)."
The question, he said, was whether the order had been given to kill Nemtsov or "stage an action that would have a high impact".
Alternatively, he alleged that Nemtsov had been killed on the order of officials in Yaroslavl region, where he had been investigating corruption.
No arrests have been made and no motive has been established for the crime.
But that has not stopped conspiracy theories from emerging via official and unofficial channels.
“There is no doubt that this crime was carefully planned. The location and timing of the killing indicated that as well. The investigation found out that Boris Nemtsov was going with his female friend to his apartment, which is located close to the murder scene. The organizers and the executers apparently knew his route,” Vladimir Markin, spokesman for the Investigative Committee, told journalists.
There appear to seven key theories as to who (or what) was responsible, as InterpreterMag explains:
1. Islamists angry at Nemtsov’s support for the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists; this theory was indicated by Vladimir Markin, spokesman for the Investigative Committee)
2. Business partners, jealous lovers, or other private persons – In most cases involving money and love triangles, the victim is killed inside or right outside their home. The murderer is not going to want to risk being seen in a wide-open public space, or caught on surveillance cameras. The fact that Nemtsov was killed in a wide-open space with lots of possible witnesses, and surveillance cameras in a highly-secure area near the Kremlin, tends to suggest that personal reasons are not involved.
3. Ukrainian government or State Department paymasters. Those positing the involvement of the Ukrainian or any Western government in the assassination who are unhappy with their charge’s supposed work for them have to explain why these putative pay-masters looking to “punish for poor performance” or conversely “split society” didn’t wait until March 1, and a presumably failed march with fairly low turnout (or a wildly successful march), to then settle their scores — and thus miss an opportunity for a high-profile event first to attract support of their cause. Given that in Russia, murders and arrests tend to intimidate dissidents rather than fuel them to more protest, this seems counterintuitive to their hypothetical interests.
There’s also the obvious problem that if these paymasters want to recruit new helpers, making obvious examples of poor performers by executing them may tend to drive down recruitment.
4. Western intelligence seeking destabilization of Russia. The argument that any assassination “destabilizes society” seems readily credible until we contemplate that in Russia, killing an opposition leader without much of a following in the broader society does not achieve the desired affect.
There have been dozens of assassinations in the last 25 years of journalists, priests, civic activists, lawyers, parliamentarians, artists, and business people. None of these affected the rule of Vladimir Putin whatsoever; other factors were involved in the demise of Mikhail Gorbachev and Boris Yeltsin. Russia is already severely destabilized by Putin’s own actions in Ukraine, the fall of the ruble’s value and the price of oil. The effect of a chill on speech and assembly would arguably provide more stability (albeit of the potentially volatile kind due to state oppression), rather than destabilization.
This could be projection by Kremlin-controlled media, as one key way in which Russian-backed separatists and suspects who were trained in Russia, according to Ukrainian police, have destabilized cities like Lugansk and Kharkiv is to commit high-profile assassinations or bombings (see the cases of the Russian ultrarightist activist Aleksandr Prosyolkov who came to Lugansk from Moscow; Aleksandr “Batman” Bednov in Lugansk; and at least 10 bombings of Kharkiv in which Maidan activists and other civilians have been killed.)
5. Russian opposition itself making of Nemtsov a “sacrificial victim”. This is a version of the “false flag” technique in subversive activity, and is also likely a projection based on the Kremlin’s own methods. The single greatest disinformation story that the Kremlin has put out regarding Maidan is that the snipers who killed 100 people were from Right Sector or other ultrarightist forces who killed their own fellow demonstrators as well as police to provoke a violent coup. While some of the demonstrators may have shot police, the evidence also indicates that most demonstrators were unarmed and shot by riot police.
Furthermore, there is indication that not only did the Kremlin have a scenario for takeover of the Crimea and the Donbass before Yanukovych fled, Yanukovych had plenty of reasons to flee without actually facing gunmen in his own office or residence — which never occurred.
Blogger Oleg Kashin has an interesting post about the “sacrificial lamb” theory, noting that he himself heard this theory espoused during his own police interrogations regarding the 2010 attack on him which left him severely injured, after which he was eventually forced to flee Russia to live abroad.
An investigator asked him if he didn’t think the attack on him was meant to “destabilize Russia” or was an effort by opposition to make him into a “sacrificial victim.” He didn’t think that about his own case, and doesn’t think it about Nemtsov’s case now, either. He took it at face value for what it was: government-related intimidation to punish him for blogging critically about an environmental issue.
Ilya Ponomarev argued backward from the actual “audience” that would be most affected by the assassination to discard both the “sacrificial lamb” and “destabilization of society” theory:
“The audience for that crime was not the Russian people; the target audience is within the Russian elites, who knew Nemtsov very well, and even those who were Putin supporters had great respect and they knew him as first vice prime minister; and elites in the West – an even greater target than elites in Russia.”
Not ordinary Russians or “all of Russia” were affected, because if Nemtsov had any recognition value, it was only as a figured hated for his association with the Yeltsin regime. Rather, it would be the liberal intelligentsia in Russia and its supporters in the West who knew Nemtsov and his value who would be most affected.
As Ponomarev pointed out, unlike other figures who were less transparent, everything about Nemtsov was known, including his love affairs and business dealings and he was never shy about expressing his opinion on a wide range of issues. That made it difficult for officials to control him.
6. Ultranationalist or nationalist-Bolshevik or other type of groups to the right or left of the Kremlin operating on their own. The assassination of the most visible enemy designated by Anti-Maidan as “the organizer of Maidan” is not merely intended to “discredit Putin” — who is already quite discredited. Rather, it signals to Putin that extremists will hedge him in by “taking care of” enemies they believe may influence him, to one extent or another in the “fifth column.”
Regardless of the forces or interests at play in the murder of Nemtsov, it’s likely that suspects in the murder will be delivered quickly — already there is talk of “license plates from Ingushetia or Ossetia,” Caucasian republic near Chechnya, which indicates that a Chechen or other Caucasian, the standard culprits for crimes in Russia may turn out once again to be involved.
For one, a key feature of the annual report of Aleksandr Bastrykin delivered last Friday, February 27 (the same day as Nemtsov’s murder) is that 86% of murders are solved, and that the percentage of such cases has increased since last year. After boasting about this facet of his Investigative Committee — which he believes makes the reason self-evident for separating the investigative functions from the prosecutor’s office — he will be under pressure to make good on his claim, not to mention under considerable political and media pressure with such a high-profile case.
For another, the faster the government can find a credible scapegoat, even if the investigation and trial process drags out for years, the more any undesirable fallout can be controlled.
Ilya Ponomarev predicted that in the next few weeks, the culprit will likely be found:
“Their face will be on Russian TV, their biographies and the evidence — ‘the evidence’ — would be on RT, very nicely presented,conveyed in perfect English by people like Ms. Boykov…conveyed in perfect English, and with all the proof that is needed to convince a Western audience. My personal bet is that it will be somebody next to Khodorkovsky whom Kremlin really fears.”
(Note: The Interpreter is a project of the Institute for Modern Russia which is funded by Pavel Khodorkovsky, son of Mikhail Khodorkovsky. )
7. The Kremlin. When political killings have occurred in the United States, Latin America, Asia or Africa, media have no trouble questioning whether the government in power could be involved somehow. Yet when it comes to Russia, such probing is instantly relegated to the category of “conspiracy theory” and discredited as tin-foil hattery.
— Sergey Elkin (@Sergey_Elkin) March 1, 2015
Even so, the simplest explanation for the murder of an opposition leader against the dramatic backdrop of the Kremlin walls and towers and St. Basil’s Cathedral, on the eve of a public anti-war march, is that forces in power or close to the government were most motivated and most capable of the deed.
There are a number of factors that support government involvement in some form:
a. Nemtsov was under constant surveillance. This was proven multiple times as his cell phone calls were publicized in the press and his meetings with people were broadcast on TV. His killers would know where he was meeting his girlfriend and where he might stroll after dinner on his way home. Presumably if an attempt was made on Nemtsov while he was under surveillance, agents could prevent it or quickly nab the culprits. Even if it seems to some unlikely Nemtsov wasn’t under total 24/7 surveillance, in the period leading up to a high-profile march, he would be.
b. The videotape from the security camera trained on the Bolshoi Moskvoretsky Bridge indicates the involvement of a city vehicle in deliberately blocking the view of the murder and making escape possible. As we noted regarding the video, there is suspicious activity as people get in and out of the vehicle and then make a getaway in a passenger car. This is the key indication of possible official collusion. Other video cameras much closer to the scene of the crime likely caught more details, but the footage has not been publicized.
c. A fear that the march might get more than the barely 30,000 that the government mustered for the Anti-Maidan cause, even paying demonstrators, bussing in protesters, and urging unions and local government to turn out people dependent on the state for their salaries. Had 30,000 appeared for “Spring” — and it’s not clear at all that they would, although a rally last March produced that many — the Kremlin might have felt it had a significant challenge. It’s not a challenge it would have been overwhelmed with, however, as experience shows that with just a few dozens arrests and long sentences of 4-5 years such as in the Bolotnaya Square cases, the government could deter participation in large rallies. Even so, it could represent a fresh round of challenges.
d. Recent leak of a document purporting to come from the Kremlin indicating plans to annex the Crimea and the Donbass long before Yanukovych was toppled. So much effort has been spent on finding reasons to discount or downplay this document that it may be overlooked that it simply could be true. In that case, a leak from a top official would need to be punished and further leakers or would-be publishers discouraged. Perhaps the Kremlin does not (yet) know who the leaker is and needs to smoke him out.
Many believed Novaya Gazeta‘s Dmitry Muratov was in great danger when he announced the leak days before publication, yet to attack or jail him might not get as much publicity as the assassination of an opposition leader about to lead a large public march. Nemtsov was also planning to release a report himself.
e. A demonstrable need in advance of various threatened or anticipated crackdowns to have a powerful deterrence in place to prevent protest. These range from from blocking of independent media websites, Western social media like Twitter and Facebook, due to untenable demands on these companies to place their servers on Russian territory, to further taxation and austerity measures, and a law that will define “undesirable” organizations with foreign ties in addition to the “foreign agents” law.
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Whatever person or group committed the murder of Nemtsov, one thing is evident, as InterpreterMag concludes, the indelible image broadcast by media all over the world of a Kremlin critic lying dead just outside the Kremlin’s walls serves as a powerful image to strike fear into the hearts of any other challengers.
“Both the state and the opposition in Russia are prone to conspiracy theories,” Mark Galeotti, a professor at New York University who specializes in Russian security affairs, said, according to Bloomberg, “The official media paints a world shaped by dark forces while the anti-Putin opposition only need to look at how controlled the public sphere is for evidence of bad intentions.”
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It was Barry in the Crucible with a Bic.
Only an MSM watching idiot would think it was Putin.
Even Stalin waited 20 years and to Mexico City to pick axe Trotsky
Well, this is a fine example of "unbiased reporting" at it's best.
Forgot the Monday Humor tag, there Tyler.
7. The Kremlin. When political killings have occurred in the United States, Latin America, Asia or Africa, media have no trouble questioning whether the government in power could be involved somehow.
Like you say, NA, humor.
I vote for 7 d. as most likly.
Aternative news to that from the perverts at the BBC (why quote them of all news organizations??):
http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/
A counterpoint.
dyodd
the perverts at the BBC
Indeed. If the Brits still had any stones, or any sense of justice...
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This rubbish from InterpreterMag has the same fish-dead-for-six-days stench usually associated with The Diplomat.
perhaps it is visa versa idiot wise
oj putin'd
No kidding. When they shot down MH17, they were blaming Putin by the time it hit the ground.
Only a Zero-Hedge-reading-dope would come to the conclusion that the man with the biggest motive to want Nemtsov dead and the greatest access to the means to kill him...would have nothing whatsoever to do with his death.
Instead, we get tedious, byzantine, circuitous attempts at sophistry. Logical contortionism.
Do whatever it takes to avoid recognition of the obvious, Bob! :-)
STFU
Bob, I'm your only link to reality - hold on tight!
I can't.
It would be like picking up a dead skunk off the highway and puting it inside my Escalade.
No problem then - continue to embrace your delusions.
You silly goose!
You're agenius and kindly leave zh dope . How many times you want to get ban ?
Larry, how's St Louis these days?
The bitch's pimp likely had the biggest motive.
Stalin killed the most popular Russian communist, Mayor of Leningrad in the 30's. Stalin used an elaborate set of figures to carry out the killing by a useful idiot. Few Russians blamed the Georgian Communist Stalin for that murder of the USSR's only major Ruusian Ethnic Top communist leader. If Putin did this act, then he was 100 times stupider than Stalin. Nobody who ever dealt with Putin has called him stupid.
Jack, I agree with 99% of what you post, but I believe you are mistaken about Stalin and Kirov. Latest scholarship is that Stalin was not involved, and the Kirov killing made him even more paranoid.
He's a martyr.
That's all that matters.
He's the driving force in shaping my life: I mean, Ukrainian girlfriends that young and pretty -- he's setting the mark.
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I mean, GEEZ!!! LOOK at the ads on the side of the page!!!
It's the first time I've seen someone take 7 bullets and not bleed a drop.
And he managed to put on an awful lot of weight lately:
http://www.tomatobubble.com/id789.html
It's more Kabuki theater- Nemtsov's alive and well.
Wow. Sounds like an FBI informant relocation plan............ who is the chubby guy dumped there?
Photographed with McCain. That tells me all I need to know. "He's a good man."
Seek-Truth. Fake is likely bodies do not match in slightest. Note Putin would not show up to a fake's funeral as well.
Everything's a conspiracy, isn't it, Bob? :-)
Not everything. For example, it's a pure fact that you're a hasbara troll.
"Putin did it" is also a conspiracy, isn't it, Bob? :-)
Today's DNC press release: "George Bush's fault"
where would -he was working for putin and the otherside could no longer humor a double agent-fit in?
People with lots of enemies and few protectors often wind up dead. Maybe it was Putin. More likely CIA or offshoot, but in the end the BANKSTERS want war so there WILL BE WAR. It's the goose that lays the golden eggs.
No way Putin ordered that. Is interesting that it was called a "contract killing" though. What profit would there be in wacking that guy?
The only thing we know is "his girlfriend saw nothing" even though she was right there and saw the whole thing.
You would think she at least saw SOMETHING.
Or were the tears so full in he'd eyes she couldn't aim well when she pulled the trigger FOUR TIMES.
Not that she is a suspect of course....
One of the posters below included a link that shows photographs of Nemtsov and the guy laying on the bridge. The guy on the bridge was allegedly shot 5 or 7 times? Why is there not a drop of blood ? Photo from both sides shows no wound or blood and a Nemtsov that gained like 60 pounds overnight.
Lot s of curious stuff be happening these days.......
60 pounds overnight? The photos don't have time stamps on them. Don't be too believing. I have seen bullet wounds that did not bleed. How many bullet wounds have you seen? I see some marks on the side of the body, those could be wounds. The Anti new york times stuff looks like BS to me.
it's great fodder for NATO to slip career warmongers into Western Ukraine.
Only 7?
I thought we were all told how awesome the world was going to be, and how we would all stand around and sing happy little love songs after Obama was elected because he could unite the world like no other president ever could. So why does it seem that we as a country, and a society are closer to WWIII, and a race war then we have ever been. All according to his plan i suppose.
kumbaya my friend, kumbaya
Well, it points out that contrary to public opinion, the left is NOT anti-war, just anti-rightwingerwaged-war. Where are all the flower children speaking out against droning, Guantanamo, Syriaq, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. etc, etc.
Where is Cindy Sheehan? I don't hear about her camping out in Hawaii while Obozo is on vacation as she did with Bush.
Just a bunch of disgusting filthy greed hypocrites.
Thus the brilliance of putting in Obama. The left is so captured by PoliticalCorrectness that it would be impolite to crtiticize the first black President.
Even tho Obama is a progeny of mass murderers. His mother fingered lefftists for the Indonesian death squads. She was married to one of the worst Indonesian army murderers
The little acorn didn't fall far from the tree. "turns out I'm good at killing people". Monkey see monkey do
http://www.thesecrettruth.com/obama.htm
Everyone is so blasé about the war that the US force on other nations, just look at her:
http://zergulio.livejournal.com/2587719.html
This little Russian girl was 4 year old. She was killed by Ukrainian fascists in Gorlovka in November 14, 2014.
You don't see hordes of Zionists following her small coffin, like they followed a sleazebag and sex-addict Nemtsov.
Shame, on your house Amerika, shame, shame...
"a sleazebag and sex-addict Nemtsov." Of course he is a perfect Zionist hero. A young ethnic Russian child is cannon fodder for Zionists, they would like to kill a thousand more just like her, and smile at their feat.
The simplest explanation is usually the right one. Hmm...who was this Nemtsov a thorn in the side to?
C'mon think, Zeroes, think!!
C'mon stink, assphecal, stink!!
feh...
This embecillic article been written by an imbecile for imbeciles.
touche'
Oh, shit! I read it. They almost had me at the beginning. I thought, okay, here is some thoughtful analysis. Then, before I knew it, I was being held down and assfucked!
Just when we were almost out of conspiracy theories.......
A lone snowblower theory.
8. It was Bin Laden on the Grassy Knoll
What was Boris's popularity in Moscow? I understand he was polling 5%. The rally he was calling for was going to draw between 10 and 25 thousand supporters from a city of 11.6 million? A minisucle % of the population would show up to any rally Boris organized. Boris would be easily defeated with some dirty political ads, the kind of shit ad we see in every election, just show Boris standing with John McCain or Porkoshenko and there are several photos on the net and he won't win much support in Moscow. Think about it, is Putin really stupid enough to whack a loud mouth politician that is of no real consequence? Boris is more popular dead than alive, think about it.
Boner Boris popularity rating was 1%.
Putin's rating went up from 85% to 86%
7 conspiracy theories?
That's only one short of total confusion.
I think the best approach is to not take part in the game more than is unavoidable.
He was a pawn in a very serious game of chess. Pawns are expendable.
Yeah, maybe.
But if Nemtsov can be made into a much more popular martyr than he actually was- the west wins.
Remember, all you have to do is strut around and kick over the pieces, shit on the board and declare yourself the winner.
I should be a Professor of American History!
Meh, TL; DR.
That said, Motorola and Givi (and all their men) are heroes.
They have, against all odds, created a bastion of freewill in the midst of a war they did not bring upon themselves.
Their homes are destroyed, but their will is strong.
May that we all be such inclined.
One thing's for sure- John and Vicky had no idea of these people's resolve.
And they never will.
I'm a Mozgovoy fan myself. I wish they made Rebel trading cards
You look at the fat fuck Pol Pot Shenko and the human ferret that is Yat the Rat or Yulia Timoschenko who is a doppelganger for Eva Braun
Compare that to the handsome Zakharchenko who looks like a Russian Steve McQueen.
You have to root for the underdogs who refuse to be ground into Obama's hamburger. Finally someone is saying nyet to American Exceptionalism
Don't know of Mozgovoy. But I'm pretty sure your 'n's are misplaced. You've got an extra u in there as well.
Not a grammar nazi, and english may not be your first language, but as I know it. it should be Annunaki.
Anyway, Pol Pot Schenko and Yat the Rat sounds about right, and Yulia is mad as March Hare.
I ain't gonna speak to Zakharchenko's handsomeness- He's the DPR dude, right?
I will say this though- those boys and girls kick ass and take names.
Damn. I am just too old to volunteer with the separatists, and my military days are far behind me. Not that riding a desk would be any great qualification as a volunteer. Where can we send our banned AR-15 ammo?
InterpreterMag is founded by Khodorkovsky, a Jew who stole enormous amount of money from Russian people. Khodorkovsky was one of the slew of Jewish rapist of Russia, whose actions caused the loss of two generation of Russian people.
After being pardoned by Putin and released earlier this tax evader promised not be get involved into politics. But there is no honor amongst thieves.
The day after the murder of Nemtsov, openrussia.org, an anti-Russia organization working to give Russian people a gift of Maidan like in Ukraine or better, was strategically placed near the Kremlin.
Here the article on a new news company openrussia.org. http://rusvesna.su/recent_opinions/1425291978
You can see openrussia.org was operated televised service during the "opposition" on March 1.
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Another anti-Semite exposed.
as[o]phocles,
You will run out of fingers and toes to count us.
He can start with my middle finger
Hey ASSophocles why dont you take that paper bag off your head so we can see the Anti-Gentile. You wouldnt happen to look like your illustrious leader Rabbi Ovadia Yoseff?
Antiglobalist is more like it. I could sooner get along with Jihadi John than I could with you, and I'm not the least bit anti-semitic.
You realize, of course, that Moses and Abraham were both Semitic?
Nah, didn't think so.
That said, I think they're both fulla shit. Does that make me anti-semitic?
No, it makes me anti-bullshitic.
What a bullshit statement that is.
Fuck semites
Beware of monkeys with hand grenades
We need to look long and hard at those 'seven main conspiracies' - maybe even add a few more to round it out to an even dozen.
ANYTHING to divert our attention from the simplest explanation of why this guy got rubbed out.
6. Ultra Nationalists impatient with with Lemonhead's eleventy dimensional chess over Pol Pot Shenko and Neo Nazi Ukraine
Nemtsov was seen as a traitor, fifth column debauched opportunist underming Russia while it is being driven to a state of war
Being groomed to take over in an American sponsored coup/assassination
The Yat the Rat of Moscow
He was killed in front of the Kremlin as a warning to Putin to clear out the quislings
"Girlfriend" witnesses murder
"Girlfriend" left unscathed
"Girlfriend" back home in Ukraine before the body got cold
"Girlfriend" knows who did it cause she helped set it up
Absolutely
No doubt she picked the restaurant because she knew the route to walk home.
You make good points. It is clear from Moscow video cameras that single cars began tracking Him from the moment he picked her up at the airport. One car followed him near to center city, then a second took over, during the day several times cars changed. It all began the minute he picked her up. That smells! And she walked him back to his apartment, when he had a ride with him at the restaurant. Why walk, and since it would be normal to ride if you have one, why that night walk? She is back in Kiev, why?
Dude had a Range Rover with chauffer and lived a pretty ritzy life style in central moscow. Must be nice to have the Rothschilds pick up your tab. I guess they freaked out at his bills and decided he was worth more dead than alive to them lol.
He was funded by the CIA and loads of hopeless dupes who gave him money to fight corruption. That usually involved spending lots of lime in luxury resort hotels sometimes in the company of $1500-a-night young women.
Would you talk if you knew you were next on the list to be rubbed out, Bob? I'm guessing not.
If only this guy's dad had rubbed one out instead...
The following is the most breathtakingly stupid quotation I have read at zh since I joined over 3 years ago.
Unless Putin wanted every head of state in Europe to know that he had Nemtsov terminated, and only a mongoloid idiot would think that he did.
You have only six main conspiracy theories. That one is right of Fox News
I don't know who Mark Galeotti is but I wonder if he thinks Jack Ruby's murder of Lee Harvey Oswald was a CIA conspiracy?
The CIA has a budget of $50 billion a year. What do you think they spend it on, helium filled balloons and New Years hats?
Or murders to embarass Vladimir Putin?
It boggles the mind. putin has been cautious almost to the point of timidity over Ukraine.
Why would he make a martyr out of a hasbeen with a 1% approval rating whose party was so weak sauce they couldn't even muster the requisite 5% needed for the Duma
Nemtsov was worth more dead than alive. And really Tyler? Et tu? Tens of thousands?
15-20,000 at most on Sunday.
What's the Russian word for meh?
I usually say BLAHT! Or CHORT!
But then, Russian is my third language and I am not as fluent in it as I might wish.
Occam's razor, Bob.
Keep scratching your head, you'll figure it out eventually. :-)
Somebody should use Occam's razor to shave both your heads lol.
Thousands of Russians have bid farewell to murdered Russian opposition politician Boris Nemtsov as his funeral took place in the capital Moscow.
They queued patiently to view his coffin before it began its solemn journey to a city cemetery.
Several EU politicians and Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny were barred from attending the funeral.
Hours later, Mr Navalny accused the Russian authorities of responsibility for the murder.
In a statement (in Russian) from jail, where he is serving a 15-day sentence, he said: "I believe that Nemtsov was murdered by members of a government (special services) or pro-government organisation on the order of the country's political leadership (including Vladimir Putin)."
The question, he said, was whether the order had been given to kill Nemtsov or "stage an action that would have a high impact".
Alternatively, he alleged that Nemtsov had been killed on the order of officials in Yaroslavl region, where he had been investigating corruption.
No arrests have been made and no motive has been established for the crime.
Nemtsov's final resting place is at Troyekurovskoye Cemetery, where murdered journalist Anna Politkovskaya was buried in 2006.
A fierce critic of President Vladimir Putin, he was shot dead on a bridge near the Kremlin wall on Friday night.
New CCTV footage of the presumed getaway car has been released by a pro-Kremlin Russian news website, LifeNews. The video shows a vehicle making its way along Moscow streets but there is no close-up on the suspects inside.
Among the mourners was Russian businessman Platon Lebedev (second from right), who was jailed along with Mikhail Khodorkovsky in what critics said was a politically motivated prosecution
Thousands turned out to bid farewell to Boris Nemtsov. They stood quietly, as a light snow fell, in a long queue that snaked around the park, up the hill and right on to Moscow's Garden Ring road. They brought flowers and lit candles, and talked of a man who - as a politician - had been like a 'bright light' to them: honest, and a true democrat.
As a man, they remembered someone full of energy and jokes; handsome, too, and easygoing. As well as sorrow at his death, I found people were deeply sceptical that those who killed Boris Nemtsov would ever be found.
His open coffin lay in a small room, surrounded by photographs of a life in politics. Many of those who took turns at the microphone there believe he was killed for his critical views. They accused their leaders of stirring up hatred of dissenters and using the powerful state run media machine to paint them as traitors.
One man in the queue told me that for him, though, Boris Nemtsov was the real patriot. A man who just wanted Russia to live better.
So many people came to see Nemtsov's coffin that when the viewing at the Sakharov human rights centre ended after its scheduled four hours, hundreds of people were still queuing outside.
"He was our ray of light," said Valentina Gorbatova, 80. "With his help, I think Russia would have risen up and become a strong country. It is the dream of all progressive people in Russia."
Former UK Prime Minister John Major, who was in Moscow to pay his respects, called for a full, transparent investigation into Nemtsov's murder, saying his voice would not be silenced.
It was, he added, his "saddest ever visit to Moscow".
Nemtsov was buried in the same cemetery as murdered journalist Anna Politkovskaya in 2006.
Latvian MEP Sandra Kalniete told the BBC she had been refused entry into Russia at Sheremetyevo airport in Moscow without a proper explanation.
She said she had been made to wait two hours at the airport before being denied entry.
Bogdan Borusewicz, the Polish senate speaker who was to have led a delegation from his country, was denied a visa.
Russia said he was on a list of Polish officials barred from travelling to Russia, drawn up after the EU imposed sanctions on Russia over its involvement in Ukraine.
That drew condemnation from the EU, with European Parliament President Martin Schulz calling it a "high affront" which would further set back relations with Moscow.
He said such actions were "without the slightest element of reasoning" and said he would demand an official explanation.
President Putin was not attending the funeral, the Kremlin said. It sent in his stead the presidential envoy to the parliament, a relatively minor official.
Shot four times
Tens of thousands of people marched through central Moscow on Sunday to honour Nemtsov, with the opposition claiming some 50,000 people had attended the event.
Nemtsov had been due to lead an opposition march that day, but his killing turned the event into a mourning rally.
His allies have accused the Kremlin of involvement but President Putin condemned the murder as "vile" and "provocative", vowing to find the killers.
Nemtsov, 55, had been walking home from a restaurant with his Ukrainian girlfriend, Anna Durytska, when he was shot four times.
Ms Durytska, a 23-year-old model, was allowed to return to Ukraine after being questioned by Russian police.
She told Russian media she had not seen the killer, who struck from behind.
Russia's Federal Protective Service, in charge of presidential security, has said its surveillance cameras did not record the shooting because they were pointed towards the Kremlin.
What I find shocking about this article:
1. The traitors Nemtsov and Politkovskaya were allowed to be buried on consecrated ground.
2. John Major's still alive.
Who ever did kill him has given the USA another good reason to throw sanctions at Russia. Remember MH-17. They killed all those people for a false flag, what is one more nobody compared to that feat?
I think that, except for UK, Canada, a lot of the EU members have begun to see America's bloody hand in the Ukraine, but are either either being blackmailed economically (that's why I think the US purposely caused the crash of 2008) or their leaders are blackmailed personally (how much crap did we get about Merkel that didn't hit the headlines?)
Jack
Do you thnk Hungary will go along with amy more manufactured sanctions?
Obviously you can't count on the Greeks saying no after Syriza folded
The Greek government is composed of vaginas.
This article is riddled with false assertions and is disinformation. Put out by the mouthpiece of a corrupt oligarch (Khodorkovsky).
Yes. Unlike many here, I can see why the Kremlin would do this. You know what? They had very good reasons to put a stop to Nemtsov's treachery for good.
Nemtsov planned to incite a riot and the violent overthrow of the Russian government. In all civilized societies, the standard penalty for aiding and abetting the enemies of the sovereign---treason---is death, with the traitor held responsible for his own death. Who killed Nemtsov? Simple. The traitor Nemtsov killed himself.
I sincerely hope that whoever actually pulled the trigger gets a medal and---if it really was a vigilante and not FSB---full amnesty from prosecution. That wasn't murder. That was justice.
Agree 100%
The high visibility of the killing sent ttwo messages
1. To the Russian "Maidan" wannabees
2. To Putin
Patience is wearing thin
Perhaps the team he was on did not like his tactics and offed him
Yeah team Rothschild didnt like his high roller lifestyle they had to subsidize. Chauffered Range Rover, expensive bimbos to support, the dude was living like a pasha. At one point his expenditures crossed the line for what he was worth to them. He then was more valuable dead that alive. At least they gave him a last meal at a fancy restaurant.
Sure he was a scumbag, and he had it coming. But Mr. Putin is too smart to indulge his own desire for justice at this time.
nemstov was more interested in bedding women than in RU societal change
He was just a useful front man.
Well, Kerry recently asked US "lawmakers" to fund more anti-Russia propaganda, ostensibly to counter RT's growing audience. Because he's clearly retarded -- and therefore the ideal tool -- he backed his request with the following logic (I'm paraphrasing):
"RT uses words."
"With these words they make sentences!"
"Some of the sentences have adjectives," he exclaimed, looking up with his legendary equestrian dullness.
i think they hired ASSphocles for the job
I walked that bridge many times to and from my apartment nearby and it is not near the Kremlin walls, just looks that way in photos. Where he was shot was prob 1 kilometer from Kremlin walls.
If Putin or his allies did it, do you really think he would do it there??
Also I am sure Putin cares not about such insignificant people such as this man.... it's meaningless. Most Russians remember him as a thief from his time in office under Yeltsin.
Also no mention that he is jewish in the article, or that much of the opposition in Russia are jewish, along with the Prime Minister, President of Ukraine ( and most of the Rada- Parliament) . Most of oligarchs from Russia and Ukraine... and a lot of the media in Russia is owned by these people just as in the USA. Along with Trotsy and Lenin, new info is showing that Stalin may have been as well most of Stalin's thugs were.... AND it is not mentioned that Russians are starting to understand who their real enemies are. All they have to do is watch the speech in Congress today by the Prime Minsister of Israel to see who runs the show.
A few years back I was in Saint Petersburg, walking on the street I saw some flowers on the sidewalk. I asked someone why they were there. I was told it was because a jewish male was killed there.
Russia can be a dangerous place, not only for jews but other minorities, and if you steal from someone, or start a bar fight, etc, can be not so pleasant. There could be many reasons Nemstov was killed. Perhaps he ripped off the wrong person.... I did see his girlfriend wearing nice fur coats. Nemstov's official salary was not so much... yet he probably drove a new Porsche Cayanne, or BMW X6 (black of course) and lived the high life... best not to jump to conclusions about the Kremlin doing it.
Cui bono? Does anyone with a semi-functioning brain think the Kremlin would even entertain this idea? This idiot was a constant reminder of the drunken Yeltsin's sellout to the West with the ever-present group of oligarchs that seem to support 'the dark side' in every country around the world. So who or what is left? #1-6 all contain the same element of potential Gladio involvement, and when you've said that, you've said enough, though these types of ops have been around long before Gladio was conceived, or it's Team B cousin in the ME. Anyone remember the setup to seize the necessary lands for our 'canal' project back in the day? Does anything ever really change? Just the name of the 'evil empire' and following the 'Stalog 17' example, it is usually the real spy pointing fingers at the fallguy. This is usually a telltale sign from the first moments after such an event occurs. Who first started pointing fingers? Same pattern every time.
Who's manning Vlad's suicide watch tonight?
Who is manning yours ASSophocles, is it Ephilates of Trachis.
Putin learned the hard way that merely jailing the opposition (Khodorkovsky, Navalny) is a temporary fix.
If you want to silence them for the long term, you need to kill them.
No, it's the other way around: opposition learned that in order to be noticed, it is not enough to be jailed anymore, you have to be dead.
Have no fear, Vlad's going to get to the bottom of this whodunnit!
Just like OJ's eventually going to find the real killers.
Now, while OJ’s MO was to search the back 9 of every upscale country club in the US, Vlad’s going to be looking for the guilty party at judo-fests in Moscow, Novosibirsk and Vladivostok.
Great killers…er, minds…think alike.
Maybe we just need to look at your cell phone or your NGO's founding members list to find the REAL KILLERS.
Some fun questions for the New Year!
Russia’s Vladimir Putin refers to himself as “Russia’s humble public servant.” This humble public servant’s net worth is:
a) Negligible – after all, he’s merely a humble public servant;
b) On a par with that of Russia’s oligarchs, who often are required to get clearance for important transactions from Mr. Putin himself;
c) Greater than that of most oligarchs, since approval by Mr. Putin for large transactions is a given, and naturally, “palms will need to be greased”; or
d) Quite modest, Mr. Putin preferring to be paid in bottles of Baltika No. 3.
For those that answered (b) or (c), a follow-up question:
Mr. Putin’s extraordinary wealth is the result of:
a) Blatant corruption and quid pro quo deal-making;
b) Skimming from the Russian treasury;
c) A night job working on the KaMAZ truck assembly line; or
d) Generous donations via Western Union from loyal Zero Hedgers.
How many times are you going to post this illinformed piece of crap.Its not worth replying to you but the fact is Putin has over 80% support in Russia . Those Russians must be prepared to accept his failings
Hell, I am. Given the choice between Bathhouse Barry and the President of the Russian Federation, I know who I'd rather have as the leader of the Western World.
Funny how he is never concerned with the net worth of the Russian J-mafia oligarchs past and present, or the ones in Ukraine.
Guess he can't bite the hands that feed him. How do taxi drivers become billionaires overnight lol?
Stalin had over 95% "approval"...
Now go make another beat-off "Putin tribute" video.
Stalin was a third grade dropout who could barely read, a firebug, and a violent street thug who was well known to the Russian police. With such sterling credentials he was also an employee of the Rothschilds in Baku long before the unRussian takedown.
http://www.spectator.co.uk/the-week/diary/30681/diary-180/
The source for the alleged and untraceable $40 billion number thrown about for Putin's net worth is the CIA (or New York Times, depending on which side of that revolving door you are on).
So either;
a) They made up the number,
or
b) that is the amount they have paid hom to keep the MIC busy selling new weapons to NATO.
try and stay on topic
you've got the attention span of a fruit fly
and the brain of a gnat.
lol
Clearly another false flag like MH17. The momentum of the US push to destabilize Russia had slowed due to the beating the Ukrainian army took , the dire economic situation it is in and the Minsk agreement showing lack of resolve from European politicians.. USA needed more outrage against Russia to justify the aggression of Nato and itself ,sending "Trainers" to Kiev.
Fortunately for Russia the American and Nato leaders are imbeciles, in America's case exceptional imbeciles". Unfortunately for us this is leading to a very unstable world and possible nuclear war. I guess that is better than the central banks admitting they fucked up and the financial elite losing some money..
First of all, that bridge is not secure at all. It isn't guarded by anyone. Due to its vicinity to the Kremlin, people think it's secure, probably Nemtsov did too, therefore he might have dropped his guard, making him an easy target. Also, considering that he was returning from a dinner with a woman, so he probably had a drink or two.
Second, that bridge is ideal for hit and run operation. Lots of open space and nowhere to hide or run. If you jump, you'll either land in frozen/cold Moscow river, or hit the asphalt. If you run, you risk getting hit by a car, assuming you do not trip over the barrier separating the sidewalk and road. Plus, getting away is easy. Moscow in the evening isn't traffic jammed, and a one-way street leads away from the bridge with few intersections and traffic lights.
So, people who can't think see that spot as "special", "carefully chosen", instead as a place where the assassins had opportunity. Remember: means, motive and OPPORTUNITY.
Third. Cameras. Yes, the place is ridden with cameras. The investigators already told the public that they are studying the recordings. No, no one is going to publish that recordings for security reasons. Knowing the field of view of the cameras or the area they cover is a security risk in itself, so do not expect those recordings to be published.
Articles such as the above only mislead the public, are written to instigate public outrage, put additional pressure on the investigators, and are therefore counterproductive.
About finger pointing. There is a finite number of people on the planet. If you do finger pointing long enough, you soon run out of people you had not pointed your finger to. Then, people start pointing their fingers at you. I wonder, who are the so called western leaders going to blame if Putin is no longer in power?
Israel.
The Jews have always been the people the banksters and other elites blame when something goes wrong. It's probably the oldest disinfo tactic out there.
Never ceases to amaze me how ZHers with the sense to know better fall for it in the 21st century, but there you go.
(Folks. Many of Putin's most loyal lieutenants are Jewish. In Putin's Russia, public money is used to restore beautiful synagogues, while in Obama's America the House of Saud are sending agents to recruit for Muslim terror campaigns in America's jails and building recruitment centres---mosques, we're supposed to call them---in every state.
Putin has no quarrel with the Jews. Why should any here?)
What people don't understand is that there is a tightly controlled powerful private intelligence network or Cabal Crime Syndicate (Soros, et al) that sometimes goes rogue from main branches of the CIA or MI6. I see the Mossad as largely rogue. Israel (and certain US locales) provides a state for high level, extremely wealthy criminals and predators to reside and get state protection.
Within the CIA there is a shadow group, sometimes known as Operation 40 that also carries out these murders and plots out in a rogue manner. Sometimes, and in fact more frequently of late this mercenary group is under the command of the Cabal crime syndicate.
The hoaxes such as Boston Bombing, Sandy Hook, Isla Vista, and ISIS beheadings are mostly done by the private Cabal crime syndicate, working with a tight insider clan of Operation 40, Mossad and MI6 operatives. These often involve charity and insurance fraud. Larry "Pull it" Silverstein's WTC 7 fame was a classic example. They are also heavily involved in global drug trafficking, arms dealing, the security "biz", financial market fraud-manipulation and modern day human slavery.
Arm dealing and the security biz are promoted by creating chaos. What better way to keep the chaos kettle burning than to murder Boris Nemtsov. Separate from that the Ukraine is being systematically looted by the Cabal. I find the comment above by "Sam I Am" to be more than just interesting. Also notice how quickly someone showed up to call this particular comment "anti-semitic". You see this all the time whenever someone has the scent.
The UK and US media are under this crime syndicate's control and is used for cover ups and truth suppression. The term New World Order is really a misdirection away from this powerful Crime Syndicate.
http://winteractionables.com/?p=18882
Fella, I know you are trying hard to eke out a living as a blogger, but frankly, you’re never going to make it unless you take your mental affliction and exploit it for everything it’s worth. See, this drivel you wrote here, which I assume figures prominently in your blog, just isn’t imaginative. It’s boring. Tedious. Don’t take it personally, but it’s banal. You’ll starve if this is the best you can do.
If you’re going to try to fund your undoubtedly modest lifestyle by tapping into your madness, go big or go work at Walmart. BE the madness, Russ!
Just off the top I can see you’ve made two common mistakes. If you are going to reach up your ass and pull stuff out, you have to learn to think outside the butt even if you don’t data mine outside it. Those names you toss out, well, they’re already included in just about every prayer and every chant your fellow moonbats utter. Larry Silverstein? Geez, he’s so passe, so yesterday. He’s the Betamax of Bilderbergers, Russ. It’ll be at least ten more years before he’s even retro. Using names like his, you’re at best just a fellow member of the Congregation of the Eternally Forlorn; you’ll never make deacon or anything above unless you expand the fictional narrative. You must be brave. Be daring.
Your second mistake is that you are just too prosaic in your construction of organizational names. “Operation 40”? Come on! You think that is going to scare your peers? It sounds more like a laxative than an evil cabal. I hate to tell you how to run your delusion, but what about something like “Black Team 666”? Maybe “The 322 Brigade”? Neither of those is copyrighted, so feel free to work them in if you think they’ll tickle someone’s fantasy.
I’m going to go out on a limb here and assume you idolize some of the folks who’ve gone before you, like Alex Jones or David Icke. Think about how they’ve gone full whackjob and come up with the most outrageous claims in order to gain a following. Jones is the man who coined “babies roasted in gold leaf” (supposedly an evening repast at Bilderberg and Bohemian Grove), and Icke is the originator of “The Lizard People”. That’s Top Shelf moonbatology. Is it any wonder Jones has made millions and Icke does much better than he ever did playing soccer and taking all those balls to the head?
Just know where to draw the line. Don’t go all Benjamin Fulford. Stop short of claiming some nefarious Chinese family found a secret vein of gold in the Chinese wilderness larger than the state of Rhode Island. Don’t claim said same family has multi quadrillion dollar accounts at HSBC, as even a junior CPA could calculate the vig that would throw off to HSBC’s Income Statement, not to mention the 13-figure bonus it would bring the lucky relationship manager.
The trick is “know your audience”. Sure, with those as deeply afflicted as yourself you’ll be able to pass stuff like Fulford does, but the potential gain is limited because most of those folks are shut-ins and have turned over POA regarding their assets. Tone it down just a little and you can vacuum up the woefully naïve and the proverbial Mom’s Basement dwellers, like those here at ZH. This is the crowd that is just addled enough to be able to say things like “Sandy Hoax” and “Pull it” and actually be serious. While few of them have any dosh of note, most are still in charge of their personal finances, which opens up your blog to the “Russian Brides for Sale” ads, plus the ubiquitous guns and ammo or online PM sites that are the bread and butter of websites like ZH.
You see where I’m going, Russ? It’s like your doctor no doubt tells you when he refills your TCA and SSRI prescriptions: a little medicine is good, but too much is too much.
What is TUCO doing with an imperial british colonial hat of conquest? I thought Tuco wore this hat
https://moonchild09.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/eli-wallach-as-tuco-rami...
Guess he decided the plundering was better working for the Brits...
' There are two kinds of people in the world, my friend: Those with a rope around the neck, and the people who have the job of doing the cutting.'
There are many more members of the J-mafia and goons like you that need to have the rope put around their necks. And this Blondie is not going to shoot the rope off like in the movies.
Chindit,
As a hasbara troll, or as a government hack sitting in a cubicle in Washington or Tel Aviv, you are a step above Asophacles. He can't write a word that doesn't sound insincere.
Your post started off with a bit of imigination -- but then you got carried away with your own cleverness, and lost focus.
What really comes through with you and with all of your type, is contempt -- for us, for the truth, for the endless numbers of people who you have injured, for any kind of discussion above the level of ad hominins, for traditional constitutional constraints, for anything and everything except one thing: power.
The degree to which you are attracted to power, and the degree to which you will fawn upon powerful men, is a measure of your lack of manliness.
I'll tell you what, I will give you just one so called conspiracy interview to watch as a test to your sanity (as opposed to your tongue and wit, which I will grant you). Well done, at least you don't sound like a bot.
And if you can actually sit still and watch it to the end without getting twisted into some flouride induced, psychotropic drug mind controlled knot, or feel the need to go watch basketball, come back and we can have a real discussion. Otherwise you are blowing it out your ass, even if with a certain panache.
Start at about 25:00, the subject is the Boston Bombing, give these guys about ten minutes to hit their stride, watch to the end, and then come back and tell me I am the kook.
http://winteractionables.com/?p=18715
Ah, if you raise the ire of FullofChindit13, then you must be on a path towards truth. Keep marching. He'll fall back into his drunken stupor soon. LOL.
3 and 4 are the same thing.
The other options are pure fantasy.
Yes and number 2; "The fact that Nemtsov was killed in a wide-open space with lots of possible witnesses, and surveillance cameras in a highly-secure area near the Kremlin,"
From a piece I read, the area he was in wasn't actually covered by CCTV? This fact alone, led them to believe a well orchestrated and planned operation. Perhaps by Chechians?
There is another motive this writer wouldn't want you to know judging by his attitude.
But its a good one.
Nemtsov was a double 'agent'.
Actually working for Putin - and getting right inside the enemy camps.
In Russia and the Ukraine and internationally.
That he was executed by the anti Putin camp when they found out his game.
If he was as great a Russian patrio as claimed - he would be backing Putin.
Thats why he was executed on Putin's doorstep so to speak - to send a message to the Kremin their agent was dead and why.
This is just a precis of the theory - but I think it certainly fits the scenario well.
Really?
UK and the WMD, the killing of Dr Kelly?
UK and paedophiles, the killing of Jill Dando?
UK and Royalty, the killing of Princess Diana?
These three stick out uppermost in my mind. There's probably more if we go into deeper research, but these are the latest.
Enough said...
http://imrussia.org/en/about-us
Khodorkovsky's son is the president.
More like dedicated to the plunder of slavic nations and the advancement of the balance of swiss bank accounts of dual passport oligarchs. There fixed that for you.
BS presentation.
why not relegate the BBC report to a conspiracy theory?
"Modern Russia which is funded by Pavel Khodorkovsky, son of Mikhail Khodorkovsky. "
definitely a neutral source.
"When political killings have occurred in the United States, Latin America, Asia or Africa, media have no trouble questioning whether the government in power could be involved somehow. "
this is BS
useless exposition of nothing
"President Martin Schulz "
is a certified nobody.
When political killings have occurred in the United States...........media have no trouble questioning whether the government in power could be involved somehow.
Name one, just one. And no, your answer cannot be that it's because they never occur here.
I'm still waiting.........
7 main conspiracy theories emerge as to who did it.
i) Putin
ii) Putin
iii) Putin
iv) Putin
v) Putin
vi) Putin
vii) We don't care but we will blame Putin anyway.
K G B man Putin used to do this kind of shit for a living. What makes you think he's changed?
Putin was an FSB desk officer, not a hit man. Your willful misuse of 'KGB' is a dead giveway.
Foreign intelligence operatives are killed all the time, it's the life they choose.
According to the official Western media narrative Putin is the personification of everything evil. He ordered the taking down of MH-17 and even stole MH-370, landing it somewhere in Kazakastan. Putin was recently blamed in the media for being responsible for the extreme cold winter in the US. He is blamed for Ukraine when an illegal, U.S. funded junta was instituted in Kiev by political organizations given five billion dollars by Washington, as revelaed by "fuck the EU" Victoria Nuland. The official narrative of CNN, Fox News, CNBC and others is that Putin = Satan and more of a threat than ISIS. This is what Barry, Kerry, Graham and all our other liars want us to believe.
I think conspiracy theories are a conspiracy theory!
Of course conspiracy doesn’t mean wrong …….. it means plot.
Obviously a large scale operation requires a plot.
Oh! And money!
Sort of strange that Boris Nemtsov was called to the US embassy in Moscow on January 17 2015.
Was this for "final" instructions?
http://fortruss.blogspot.de/2015/03/boris-nemtsov-getting-instructions-a...
He killed himself to compromise Putin. Just like Trotsky did to compromise Stalin. And don't forget Kennedy, who killed himself to compromise the FED!
The attached "analysis" of the dumbo's at BBC to the 7 base scenario's is one of the silliest I have ever seen and predictive point to Putin. Since when use journalist their investigative brain? Or is it a select kind that tends to ingonre all the other bullshit presented on the MSM?
the girl. ucrainian.
What the ... has the CIA hacked ZH???