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Netanyahu's "Don't Deal With Iran" Speech To Congress - Live Feed
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will address the US Congress this morning at 11ET to issue a high-profile warning against what he considers an ill-advised nuclear deal with Iran. This brings to a head weeks of tension between Israel and The White House and numerous politicians (including The President) will boycott be absent during Bibi's speech. In what NYTimes calls an 'implicit challenge to Obama', Bibi plans to outline his case for a tougher strategy to stop Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons and to dissect the flaws of an agreement that has been emerging from American-led negotiations; gambling that disclosing compromises the U.S. made in trying to negotiate a nuclear deal with Iran will delay or derail any agreement.
Netanyahu arrives...
Netanyahu's motorcade is now en route to Capitol Hill #cbc pic.twitter.com/L83Gri3clb
— Meagan Fitzpatrick (@fitzpatrick_m) March 3, 2015
I am excited to hear later this morning from one of America's greatest world allies. https://t.co/q9bkfJYzwP
— Senator Rand Paul (@SenRandPaul) March 3, 2015
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As The NY Times reports, for Mr. Netanyahu, the stakes could hardly be higher. Coming just two weeks before Israeli elections, the speech offers an opportunity to build support at home for another term while rallying opposition abroad to a diplomatic accord that he sees as a threat to his country’s security.
It will be, said Abraham H. Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, “the most important speech of his political life.”
For Mr. Obama, however, it is an extra complication as he seeks to draw Iran into a pact by late March, a complication he worries may embolden lawmakers into intervening.
“I’m less concerned, frankly, with Prime Minister Netanyahu’s commentary than I am with Congress taking actions that might undermine the talks before they’re complete,” he told Reuters on Monday.
At the heart of the dispute between Mr. Obama and Mr. Netanyahu is a debate over the best way to curb Iran’s nuclear program.
The United States, along with European allies, Russia and China, has been negotiating a potential deal in which Iran for at least 10 years would restrict the number of centrifuges it has for enriching uranium and open its program to international inspection.
The goal would be to limit Iran’s capacity so that it would take at least a year to build a nuclear weapon should it choose to violate or break the agreement. In theory, that would give the West enough time to respond. In exchange, international sanctions that have hampered Iran’s economy would be eased.
Mr. Netanyahu argues that Iran cannot be trusted given its history of cheating and hostile statements about Israel. The deal contemplated by the American-led negotiations would give away far too much, he contends. Instead, Mr. Netanyahu and other critics have advocated tightening sanctions and demanding that Iran give up all uranium enrichment.
“I plan to speak about an Iranian regime that is threatening to destroy Israel, that’s devouring country after country in the Middle East, that’s exporting terror throughout the world and that is developing, as we speak, the capacity to make nuclear weapons — lots of them,” Mr. Netanyahu told the Aipac conference on Monday. “Ladies and gentlemen, Israel and the United States agree that Iran should not have nuclear weapons, but we disagree on the best way to prevent Iran from developing those weapons.”
Mr. Obama and his team said they shared the concerns but considered Mr. Netanyahu’s approach unrealistic.
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Difficult to tell our governments allegiance when so many in the senate and congress have dual US/Israel citizenship.
I don't see the difficulty myself - it's pretty obvious actually.
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"All Aboard the Bananna Express" - next stop some small country we prop up with funding who then tells us what to do...whowhow All Aboard!!
why does such a tiny country like Israel get to say anything at all....and tell the USA what their policies should be. who in hell are israel ?
who in hell are israel ? - your boss
Because believe it or not, many Americans believe jews are god's chosen people.
Stuff a sock in it, you used-furniture salesmen in a cheap suit fuck. If the Palestinians overrun the border today and put every last one of you fermenting bags of human garbage to the sword, I'll dance in the streets with joy.
You would never be able to watch another movie, read print, or hear a song without being reminded of "The Holocaust".
this ought to be a hasbara magnet! here we go!
Sorry Rand, you just lost ANY shred of credibility with me. You're only slightly better than the rest.
He has no choice but to say he loves Israel more than the rest. After election is a different tune.
agree, but nevetheless, his cowtowing to Israel bothers me. He needs to lead-he'll never be President trying to be like the herd.
Oh God -they just introduced that fraud, Ellie the Weasel. It's so sad to see a country whose leaders serve another nation (and by implication, that Nation's bankster masters)
He's one of them, what did you expect. Rand was always Kabuki theatre.
Remember how Obama said he wouldn't come after our guns? That he wouldn't raise taxes on poor people? And then he did. The way I see it Rand is doing the same thing just in reverse.. telling the statist, GOP establishment what they want to hear. Just politics. Can't throw the baby out with the bath water.. he's the only one saying we should halt all foreign aid. He's the only one openly against the NSA, completely honest about ISIS and its origins, against protracted foreign wars and provoking Russia. What do you expect him to do? Give Bibi the cold shoulder like Obama and get absolutely thrashed by Fox News?
Why are you attempting to excuse or apologize for a liar? That is what you are calling him, right? A liar?
What's really sad is your attitude that everyone should just accept such duplicitous and dishonest behavior as a necessary part of the political process. It's probably fair to say that most people tend to shun the known liars in society. Most people prefer not to be around them or to have anything to do with them.
Clearly you appreciate and enjoy the company of liars and sociopaths. Very strange behavior on your part.
Paying lip service to Israel is a small price to pay for a chance at the first real President since Kennedy. I judge a tree by it's fruits. If you honestly believe Rand Paul is a sociopath than I don't know who isn't one by your broad definition.
I couldn't have said it better.
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Don't partner with Iran, and all of their natural resources & young population. Instead stick with tiny Israel with nothing to offer but war salesmen and open air prisons and politician bribing schemes. The choice is clear.
Dear Nutty-yahoo, go fuck yourself.
-98% of America
I'm gonna skip it.
Not only is he a fraud, he's an ugly, stupid asshole.
I am sure the Founding Fathers of this country would be proud to know that a leader of a foreign nation is coming to address the Congress of the United States in what is basically a rebutal of the Presidents policy.
Maybe I am old school but my understanding is that a Union means that you stand together first and foremost against foreign influence and put your differences aside. Instead we have what amounts to the POTUS #2 (or maybe #1) coming to address the Congress and tell them what to do. This is wedge that has been driven deep within the fabric of the government and it cant end well.
Maybe our President can go address the Kneset and tell them to stop killing Palestinians, give back the worlds wealth and generally fuck off.
Push comin to shove and Obama is hiding under his desk. Grow some balls Obama you f-----king pussy.
America is an awesome vassal state..
We are at your service Jews.. Whatever you command we obey.
"Look Mommy! Clapping seals and Coco The Clown!"
"Oh Sweetie! You're so clever!"
Come on Bibi, show us the photos you have of Obama.
Stealing Success Tel Aviv Style
http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2010/01/27/stealing-success-tel-aviv...
Israel Flagged as Top Spy Threat to U.S. in New Snowden/NSA Document
http://www.newsweek.com/israel-flagged-top-spy-threat-us-new-snowdennsa-...
U.S. Furious With Israel After Sale of Advanced Military Technology to China
http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/12/22/u-s-furious-with-israel-after-sale-...
(1993)ISRAEL SELLS ARMS TO CHINA, U.S. SAYS
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/13/world/israel-sells-arms-to-china-us-sa...
Snoden leaked an official document that NSA provides Israel with everything they get. The only promise Israel had to make was not to read asy E Mails of our politicians.
Bibi: A Wolf in Wolf's Clothing.
The last time a country had a problem with the Tribe the tribe destroyed their money and the country. So if your Jewish and your not part of the club you will feel the pain along with everybody else just like last time. 250 million Christians 6 million Jews. So keep supporting these homicidal maniacs I'm sure this time will be different.
Is this a coup.
It looks like AIPAC just found ZH. Look at all the down arrows
Just found?.......never heard of Mossad?
If they don't like living in that hell-hole desert why don't they move. Send them airfare to get them the F out of there.
Let's bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_iKuMVqht4U
Hey, if you can please try to post comments at nyt. "We" are expecting to be outnumbered today by the megaphoney hasbarats.
Bibi has been crying wolf since 1992 on iranian nukes.
This is theater, and whats really going on is Jewish/Zionist control over our government is facing a pocket of resistance.
Jewish power (not Jews per se) has to be rolled back, and part of that is showing that many of us do not kneel before ZOG
FUCK ISRAEL.
To study the history of the U.S.S.R. under Bolshevism is to shine a light on the current path America is taking. The truth leads to the perpetrators of the worst mass murders of the 20th century. Therefore, truth must be silenced.
Already, there is no free speech in the gray pages of America’s monopoly-controlled media, and that especially includes the NYT. Nor was there free speech in Lenin’s cold-blooded Communist revolutionary state: “The press should be not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, but also a collective organizer of the masses.” Lenin added, “He who now talks about the ‘freedom of the press’ goes backward, and halts our headlong course towards Socialism.”
Solzhenitsyn suffered greatly for his rich array of sources revealing that the Jews are the leading force of global capital and destruction of the bourgeoisie , i.e., those in the upper or merchant class whose status comes from capitalism.
When asked by Der Spiegel if we are to conclude “that the Jews carry more responsibility than others for the failed Soviet experiment,” Solzhenitsyn replied:
"I avoid exactly that which your question implies…All I am calling for is self-reflection. You can get the answer to your question from the book itself (200 Years Together): Every people must answer morally for all of its past—including the past which is shameful… not to answer before other peoples, but to oneself; to one’s conscience, and before God.”
“The history of the Russian civil war is characterized by the fact that after the Bolsheviks imposed an absolute information blackout toward the outside world, as exclusively as possible all writing on this conflict has been done either by foreign or domestic Jews. … Therefore, it is extraordinarily difficult if not impossible to ascertain exact numbers [of victims] and the circumstances.”
In America today, truth is suppressed and lies encouraged. We must uncover the past to avoid its pitfalls and expose the perpetrators of the killing, slavery and mass destruction, along with their fellow travelers. It is a tyranny takeover.
What a fucked up world. We have 2 lying liars in Obama and Nuttyyahoo, and another 535 lying fucks in congress. Who to believe...........
Rand fucking Paul.........how do you 'fight the Fed' and kiss Israels ass at the same time? Big disconnect there.
If Netanyahu is going to address Congress, he should at least be nice enough to be willing to answer questions after giving his speech. I know if I were there, my first question would be "I understand your position on Iran's nuclear program. Would you be so kind as to inform us as to the current status of your own nuclear program, including the total number of active warheads you currently have deployed, and the platforms those warheads are mounted on?"
I would really, really like to see just one of those lame-ass Congress-critters have the balls to stand up and ask something like this.
Nah, they'll either be drooling on his every word, or pouting and petulant and walk out.
how disgusting is it for americans to watch the self proclaimed leaders of the free world get on their knees to suck israeli dick?
even more disgusting are the millions of americans fighting for their chance to do the same.
the most disgusting people are the dual citizens actively encouraging this behavior.
So it’s Netanyahu we’re worried about; his political future, his concerns and worries, his bravery facing an enemy – all brought to us from the American Jewish house organ, The New York Times.
But it’s not Netanyahu that’s on the spot; it’s the American people, so corralled by the Jewish lobby and the Federal Reserve money that has purchased the ranges of politicians from Boehner to Rand Paul that they have zero representation.
Surely, any thinking America can realize that his political system, his economic system, foreign policy, free speech, and all the rest is cast asunder by the avalanche of fiat money now buying the sword that will make the blood flow again.
As Stephen Lendman writes today on Global Research regarding Netanyahu’s unprecedented affront to US presidential authority, “Voters should demand others explain why they intend showing up to support a cold-blooded racist mass-murderer serial liar.”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/netanyahu-at-aipac/5434504
Why does this genocidal maniac get INVITED to address Congress? He should be awaiting trail at the Hague for crimes against humanity!
This butcher has addressed Congress more times than the President. Nothingyahu is a liar who has his finger on the button of many nuclear weapons and he is responsible the massacre of innocent women and children.
Israel is a rogue terrorist state.
What has Iran done to the USA? NOTHING! Iran has been attacked by the USA many times. In the 1950s when the democratically elected government of Iran was overthrown by the CIA, MI6 and Mossad. Again when we supplied Saddam Hussien with chemical weapons and Donald Rumsfield personally met with Saddam to wage war on Iran as a USA proxy.
This tribe is in control of this country and we will continued to be attacked as long as we continue to support Iraeli war crimes.
Netanyahu is a lying war criminal.
It is disgusting to watch this criminal address congress and even more disgusting watching the Congress pander to this maniac.
"Why does this genocidal maniac get INVITED to address Congress?"
Obama?
Isn't Congress the hang out for ALL GENOCIDAL MANIACS ?!
Obama had no idea!
"Why does this genocidal maniac get INVITED to address Congress?"
Because they are his people, in the ownership sense - bought and paid for, and/or blackmailed. And this way, the American people get to see who is really in charge.
Unfortunately, he will probably make it home.
What has Iran done to the USA? NOTHING!
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Just wow in your ignorance.
What has Iran done to you?
Kept a few hostages in 1979 because we refused to recognize the legitimate Islamic Republic of Iran? They didn't kill any.
The USA supplied Saddam with billions in chemical and conventional weapons to wage a war of aggression against the people of Iran. The USA killed 100,000 by supporting Saddam.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SHLOMO!
This site has become nearly worthlesss since Obama came into power imho. When anything is in political opposition to Obama this site gets overwhelemed with his stance or political point of view. I don't think its a coincidence either. Any opposition to Obama just gets shouted away and that is a very dangerous circumstance for freedom.
I call bullshit on you "Everbody"...
You obviously dont understand whats going on since BiBi and BoBo ARE on the same page...you're falling for the what passes for political theater in brainwashINGTON.
I dont see ANYONE posting a comment that's in favour of the zionist or the islamist, so what the fuck do you mean "any opposition to Obama..."
I think you're on the wrong site putz...try the "daily joooos" or something.
I've seen some stupid comments here, but you win first place "Everybody".
Everybodys All American, in a profound display of stupidity, said:
First ZeroHedge articles: January 9, 2009.
Obama inaugurated: January 20, 2009.
So this site was OK for eleven days, and then became nearly worthless? You dumbass.
Oh, wait, look here:
Everybodys All American
HistoryThat means Everybodys All American first signed up to ZH in early May 2010, more than a year after it had become "nearly worthless". What a dumbass.
Imagine that I've been here longer than you have and I'm seeing right through the politics and the anti semitism your corrupt minds spew.
Made me laugh. US citizen chronological disorder.
But hey, fantasy is fantasy. And in a fantasy, chronology does not have to exist. Your fantasy, your call.
You make no sense but that's the left for ya. The Marxist con man will let me speak my mind only if it suits him. Net neutrality will finally seal it for all of us free thinkers.
Your chronology conveniently leaves out that Obama was elected in 2008 and ever since he's been president our liberty and voice from the conservative side has been gradually silenced and now it's come to where the constitution is ignored and no one bats an eye. Zerohedge is losing the battle to the far left just like everyone else as thyey very well know what net neutrality means.
Doesnt really matter folks, this is just horse and pony show...
WHAT REALLY MATTERS...CIRCLE THESE DATES ON YOUR CALENDARS...
1. Significance of todays date (numerology: 3/3/15
2. Total solar eclipse falls on Nissan 1 on 3/20/15
3. Blood moon on 4/4/15
4. Final day of the Shemitah Year falls on 9/25/15
5. Final blood moon falls on 9/28/15
These people, and by "these" I mean Jews, attach SOOOOO much importance to these astronomical events and the fact that all of the ones listed above fall on jewish high holy days...
Shit's gonna shake this year bitchez...
i saw that in the context of a bible analysis and it looks like we might have a winner here. reference the times this has happened to historical events and something big could happen. i am not a religious person but there have always been a lot of intrigue about the revelations(forecasts) in the bible. my personal theory is not that the forecasts are some god given warnings but a logical algo depicting the probable end of the human race based upon human nature.
"...a logical algo depicting the probable end of the human race based upon human nature."
Isn't that kind of a definition of intelligent design?
intelligence implies input to alter or define direction. there is no intelligence here. human nature has a built in self destruct mechanism that triggers upon a defined set of circumstances(fight or flight). when the human system gets too large for the environment the environment crushes the humans. easter island is a perfect microcosm. in the context of the world, man will kill each other for the last tree.
it is pretty easy to see. the timing is difficult.
astrology is forbidden in judaism.
so you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
and gematriyah---which is alphabetic number patterning and accrostics that is a complimentary method of study----IS NOT NUMEROLOGY , which is the superstitious use of numbers to predict things.
you have no fucking clue what the shemitah is, why not read something you anti-semite moron fuckface? http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/562077/jewish/What-Is-Shem...
fuck you anti-semite scum.
Tell that to RABBI Cahn... Author of The Harbinger...
You.Zionist . Stooge !
Those "mysteries" explained by Cahn are pretty effed up.
Of course it's all just a sick con trying to perpetrate the myth of choosenness and extraordinary importance.
when all else fails, fall back on this triteness lmao
"fuck you anti-semite scum. "
Bibi could have shown a sense of humor to start his speech. He should have opened it by simply saying, "JUMP"!
Why don't they simply stand and applaud instead of constantly jumping up and down and applauding?
Which one do you love?
Putin or Obama?
they both hate Bibi
so I guess it really doesn't matter.
Interesting, it all seems to follow the pattern of a certain book some of you are very familiar with.
But if you mention it you will be hated too.
The Jooish conspiracy, blah, blah, whatever. When he nukes the ragheads in Iran, don't say he didn't warn us.
So in your opinion the rogue nuke nation is Israel, not Iran.
I see we agree on something.
While I agree with you in spirit, the Persians aren't ragheads. Those are to the south.
Are trying educate some ignorant racist bubba who prob idolizes John McInsane ? I wonder if he believes that the Jews living in Persia are behind 30 foot walls and made to go through checkpoints if they need to go to the hospital, go to work, or take a crap like the Palestinians.
... and the shitbagheads re in the ussa
He won't be nuking anyone. He knows the half life of Israel would be about 40 nano seconds if they ever tried. Plus the IDF cowards are too busy raping Pali school boys to be mustered to readiness.
Senator Rand Paul ? @SenRandPaul Follow
I am excited to hear later this morning from one of America's greatest world allies.
HHHHHHHHH, man I really like him, but I sure wish he wouldn't say crap like that.
I think I now know who's in charge of this country, and why the media speaks with one voice. I'm surprised they didn't call this the "State of the Union Speech". AIPAC doesn't mess around.
I am excited to hear later this morning from one of the world's greatest rapist.
FIFY Rand
I would bet that Isreal doesn't think that Netanyahu is trying to destroy their country. Bibi probably does actually care about the safety and prosperity of Isreal citizens. Must be nice to have your leader looking out for you like that.
What's the problem, our leaders in the US also only care about Israel's safety and prosperity.
I hope your comment "Jonesy" has a "sarc" in it.
Simple arithmetic:
Democrats are throwing the Jews, as a group of their political base overboard and appearing to put them in play.
Republicans, believing the Jews are in play, are making a move to capture them as a voting bloc.
However, this is simply the magician's trick of distraction.
The real play is Obama's move to legalize tens of millions of illegals and capture that voting bloc via freebies.
Israel out of my pocket. Creepy fucks.
Out of your pocket? Israel gets 3 billion a year. The USA PRINTS 85 Billion a MONTH to keep the government going. (and to maintain the sham)
Perspective please.
Oh pleeeease "...Snatch"...the 3 Bil is what we KNOW....there are certainly billions more funnelled through to Israel by back channels....heck, of that 1.5 quadrillion in derivatives floating around, surely a few sheckles trickled down to the heebs.
Israhole shouldn't get a fucking dime of taypayer money, neither should any other foreign government until we fix our debt/spending problem.
Iran Will have nukes. They are surrounded by countries that have them that are way more dangerous (loose cannons, Pak., N Korea) than them. If I were Iran I would want what everyone else has too. Israel is not supposed to have nukes either so all this talk is a joke anyway. It's the Hezbolah and Hamas terror groups that Israel will have to worry about. The first nuke that is let off will not come from a sovereign country you can point to immediately. They are too smart for that.
First I heard that Iran was surrounded by N Korea.
Funny how you mention those loose cannons.. Pakistan and North Korea. Both states have refused to sign the NPT treaty. You know who the other nuclear armed state in the world refuses to sign it?.... Israel.
Israel is not threatening to wipe Iran off the map. Iran is threatening to wipe Israel off the map. But you believe what you want.
And NK has been caught proliferating weapons technology to Iran. You would not be a government hack would you outa time bush 43?
For being 'God's Chosen' they sure have their hand out for everything.
Iran signed a treaty. They are complying with inspections. Not ONE IAEA report has stated that they have failed to do so. And yet, this guy comes trotting into congress making up his own facts to support his agenda. Israel is the largest nuclear armed state in the region who fails to sign the very treaty Iran is alleged by them only to be violating. Stop listening to this dangerous war monger. He's dangerous for all Americans including his own people. His policies have done more to increase recruiting among extremist groups compared to any of his predecessors.
" IAEA chief Yukiya Amano verified that Iran has not been diverting its declared nuclear material to a weapons program. But he said that due to a lack of cooperation from Iran, the IAEA “remains unable to confirm that all nuclear material is in peaceful activities" – meaning there may be some undeclared material in play."
How much undeclared nuclear material is in Israeli hands? Enough for 80+ nuclear warheads. If that little fact doesn't concern you, then it should.
Many things concern me, and still the IAEA “remains unable to confirm that all nuclear material is in peaceful activities" – meaning there may be some undeclared material in play.
That's the case with ALL inspections. The inspections are never all encompassing and its impossible to do so. It's a voluntary agreement that assumes good faith.
Did you know that the UN tried to pass a resolution to insist that Israel submit to inspections as a known nuclear power. They basically gave the UN the bird and Samantha Powers vetoed it. I think that is FAR greater of a threat to world peace than a few grams of U235 that Iran MIGHT possess.
Well, I don't know about "ALL inspections", and you probably don't either.
Your original post is inaccurate according to the quote I provided from the IAEA chief Yukiya Amano. Note that he cited "a lack of cooperation from Iran".
They are complying with inspections.
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Bull and Shyte.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/22/world/middleeast/iran-says-un-weapons-...
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/i/inte...
Have you actually read the IAEA reports? They're on their website. I suggest you read them and don't leave your information gathering up to the NY times. Not one mention of them purifying U238 to yeild enough U235 for weapons grade levels. They aren't even close. Read the science ... NOT the politics.
That is a fallacy; asking to show or prove a negative or that which is not there. IOW, because you don't see it there doesn't make it untrue does it? If so, then that SMART phone, TV, and Radio make sound and picture within themselves..after all you cannot see the "waves" that transmit, therefore they do not exist..right?
NY Times? Really?
I wonder if the ZH posters know where Netanyahu went to school(s) and that these particular schools are like the Goldman Sach's gang; everywhere all the time causing disruption and death everywhere all the time; all national & global politicians are evil; no exceptions.
Is this dickhead the guy who said Iran would have the bomb in 3 months... like 20+ years ago,
Iran gets the bomb and uses it. Average ZH poster wanks it in response. Fek you clowns. Most seem to subscribe to some warped theory that all we need to do is eliminate the "Joos" and all will turn out ok. L-O-L.
Sooner or later - regardless of physical boundaries - the world will come to you. Should've seen this with the attacks starting in Lebanon, then WTC I. (F off conspiracy theorists)
Best thing he said - if Israel needs to stand alone - it will. Pucker factor in Tehran goes up 1000%. Just ask Syria and Baghdad about that.
I may not agree with a lot Israel has done, but I do believe they have a right to EXIST. But if you disagree, please explain why we can have multiple Muslim nations, many of them openly antagonistic to the USA, the existence of a single, Jewish nation, the size of Rhode Island, throws you and the rest of the world into a tizzy.
"But if you disagree, please explain"
Uhm...because Israel has built a concentration camp to liquidate the Palestinians and commits atrocities against the same.
This is funded by the Congress who also waste billions a year supporting terrorist states, such as Israel.
If the Israelis are trying to liquidate the Palestinians, they're doing a shitty job of it.
Stealing their land, eh? Why didn't Jordan give the "Palestinians" their own country before the 1967 war since they held the territory?
I get it. You and the vast majority of ZH commentators don't care for the Jews or Israel. You only give a shit about the "Palestinians" when Israel is involved. Just as give a shit about the dead Syrians, Iraqis, Somalians, et al.
Y'all are pathetic. But moral equivalency seems to be the rage these days, so have it.
Wrong "Doc"...it's that nobody likes a bully and everyone roots for the underdog.
Israel has been the bully (along with it's bigger and psycopathic brother, the USSA).
"I get it. You and the vast majority of ZH commentators don't care for Israel. "
yeah, you get it. bravo
You know what "Basho" when you talk like that, you sound JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE JEWS...poor me, pity me, we suuuuffffered the Holocaust...
Cry Baby. Be a mensch and TAKE IT LIKE A PALESTINIAN !!!!
Just curious where did you find these conspiracy theories?
Hey "Wedge"y...what conspiracy theory, mofo!!!
Gaza is an open air concentration camp where the streets are regularly pursposefully flooded with raw sewage. Recently, a dam uphill from Gazxa was opened and flooded Gaza, there are an insane number of checkpoints that Gazan's have to go through just to be able to get around WITHIN GAZA...there's a blockade on EVERY BASIC NECESSITY and the jews have bombed the fuck out of hospitals, shcools, roads, homes, markets, etc...
You r not just being disingenuous...YOUR BEING A MAJOR SCHMUCK! take off your blinders stooge.
That is one angle, and more popular in recent history, to look at, but does not complete the entire picture for which there are many sides, angles and views. In other words, it is not as black and white as most make it out to be. The absence of peace is war; war is meant to inflict damage upon and destroy an enemy.
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When has there been peace in the middle-east and under what circumstance could there be peace? I can only think of two possibilities. 1) eliminate mankind, that is a recipe for peace or 2) obey Christ. Of the two choices, man left to himself, will get to #1 unless #2 intervenes & He will when the time if right.
YOU ARE A RETARD!
Back to the basement with you shortbus!
You are among the walking-dead; I am not. You need not be. Your choice; join the living or remain in the darkness of your hatred for your Creator.
Exist, yes. Dominate and control MENA, no.
Israeli government always always always wants it both ways. BiBi does Israel a disservice - he is very good at putting the country at risk. Just listen to Israeli Military and security departments -THEY DO NOT AGREE WITH HIM!
and then of course there is a long history:
Who is threatening who here?
Who did not sign the nuclear non-proliferation agreement?
Who will never allow UN inspectors into their country?
Who is stockpiling nuclear weapons and is truly the biggest threat to MENA peace and security?
Who was identified in government documents by the South African government as the country offering to SELL nuclear weapons to SA?
Who has broken EVERY UN agreement and constantly extended their illegal borders all while committing genocide?
Who has violated numerous human rights mandates and numerous articles of war?
Who is the biggest influence on US politics and funds both Congressional and Presidential candidates who support their ideology and goals of dominance in MENA?
Who is covertly behind much of the unrest in MENA? Who was the last country to directly attack a US vessel with the intent of sinking her and all aboard (most likely as a False Flag attempt to involve the US)? Remember the USS Liberty.
etc, etc, etc...
And I won't even go into the "conspiracy" stuff.
Douchebags want to condemn the speech because it's "political". Convienently forgetting when the president of Mexico lectured congress on illegal aliens. (The hypocrisy is strong with that one)
President of Mexico works for this douchebag Netendafuckingyahoo.
Netanyahu throwing chum to the blood-thirsty sharks.
After listening to comments by "black democrats & female democrats and old white male democrats"; it becomes blatently obvious that race baiting and the dumbing down of America is COMPLETE!!
For the black and female; it is "Obama was disrepected" & for Kennedy white democrat "Obama is a good poitician, but not a leader". Case closed.
Of course Republican voters are just as ill-informed, but a bit more polished...both are liars, thieves, & deceivers. Americans are the willful ignorant!!
Expecting ZH posts will validate the point of the previous post shown below.
HEY ZH turn off the C-Span already!!
The way the Rethuglicans were kissing this guy's ass during the speech, they might as well nominate Bibi as their candidate for president in 2016.
Stop his welfare check.
Think about this, for a couple hundred million in lobbying money, AIPAC has secured 3 billion/yr is direct US military aid to Israel. Additionally, they basically can call the shots in congress, and nearly control our entire country with it's 700 billion annual defense budget. That's leverage!! Why we allow ourselves to be controlled by foreign entities like this is beyond me.
Abused become the abusers. ANY group that thinks THEY are the "chosen" are insane, yes, insane. "God" speaks to you? Really? Amazing in this universe that "God" takes the time to speak to you and your "people" to tell them that THEY, out of all the peoples, are chosen is just stupid.
Religion is for the weak minded.
Folks.
Israel hasn't bombed Iran. It's not going to. You know why? Iran has the bomb already. DC knows it. Israel knows it. If the mullahs aren't gone by now, they're not going anywhere.
Everybody clear on that? Lovely.
Here's the real news value in what's been going on. This isn't about Iran. It hasn't been in a very long time.
Bibi has the stones to tell the House Negro that the Jews are done being the fall guy for the thieves and murderers on Wall Street who cheerfully bankrolled Hitler's war machine, and now spend their time suck Jew-hating Saudi sand-nigger dick to keep oil cheap enough to avoid a catastrophic collapse of the economies they exploit The bastards have been invited to FOADIAF if they don't like the idea of the Jews being able and willing to defend themselves for a change.
Bibi, almost alone among world leaders (Putin's the only other), actually takes his people's side against the PTB, of whom few have much Jewish blood (none have any God but money), and who were only deterred from letting the Arabs destroy Israel in 1973 when the Israelis threatened to lob an ICBM at DC.
You hate the banksters? The Jews really, REALLY hate the banksters. More to the point, they're done bending over while DC fucks the Jews in the ass.
The only question left is when Israel will finally join the party of freedom under Putin's Russia. The things a Russian-Israeli alliance could achieve in the Middle East simply stagger the imagination. Disposing of the House of Saud---and the issue of oil-funded Islamic terror with it (you can thank them afterwards)---would be just a warm-up.
Recall---it was the Red Army who liberated Auschwitz, not the *spit* Greatest Generation. They showed up only after a generation of Russian boys died saving their country from Hitler and wore the Wehrmacht down enough for Eisenhower to make a big show of delivering the coup de grace.
Let's face it---Russia is the only ally Israel or the Jews ever had that was worth a wet fart to them when it mattered. One day they'll figure that out, and God help the Wall Street gang when they do.
Good one, "Niall"...never thought of it that way. Hey, dreams cost nothing! so what the fuck...
Tell that to the Poles/Khazars.
Stalin completely liquidated the whole Polish Officer Corps, with Hitler's blessing, before the NAZIs overran Poland in 1939.
Stalin rested his troops on the outskirts of Warsaw during the uprising and allowed Hilter to annilate any remaining opposition while the Russian Army watched.
Stalins purges in the 1930s included many Jews.
There were still polgroms up until the fall of the Berlin wall.
Recent evidence and admission by Russia now prove that the Polish officer massacre was perpetrated by the Soviets, not the Germans. This from Wikipedia:
The Katyn massacre was a series of mass executions of Polish nationals carried out by the People's Commissariat for Internal Affairs (NKVD), the Soviet secret police, in April and May 1940. Originally the term "Katyn massacre", also known as the Katyn Forest massacre, referred to the massacre at Katyn Forest, which was discovered first and was the largest execution of this type.
The massacre was prompted by NKVD chief Lavrentiy Beria's proposal to execute all captive members of the Polish Officer Corps, dated 5 March 1940, approved by the Soviet Politburo, including its leader, Joseph Stalin. The number of victims is estimated at about 22,000.[1] The victims were murdered in the Katyn Forest in Russia, the Kalinin and Kharkiv prisons, and elsewhere. Of the total killed, about 8,000 were officers taken prisoner during the 1939 Soviet invasion of Poland, another 6,000 were police officers, and the rest were arrested Polish intelligentsia the Soviets deemed to be "intelligence agents, gendarmes, landowners, saboteurs, factory owners, lawyers, officials and priests".[1]
The government of Nazi Germany announced the discovery of mass graves in the Katyn Forest in 1943. When the London-based Polish government-in-exile asked for an investigation by the International Red Cross, Stalin immediately severed diplomatic relations with it. The Soviet Union claimed the victims had been murdered by the Nazis in 1941, and continued to deny responsibility for the massacres until 1990, when it officially acknowledged and condemned the perpetration of the killings by the NKVD, as well as the subsequent cover-up by the Soviet government.[1][2][3][a]
You are, basically, restating my points with nifty references?
Thanks I am so glad you agree with me....sarc/on
If you are trying to refute what I wrote you need to re-read my comment.
Interesting theory, Boris.
I believe you will be proved wrong about Israel attacking Iran. Israel has no choice.
One point Bibi made that I concur with totally is that both Iran and ISIS are two competitors for the crown of control of all militant Islam. That's why they fight. It's like a feud between Mafia crime syndicates.
But this they have in common: they both want to destroy everything that is not militant muslim and under their total control. That includes Russia, China, the US, Israel, and all western civilization.
The success of the Israeli Lobby and the appearance of Netanyahu before a joint session of Congress (like Churchill’s) proves that most all of your key points not only are incorrect, they are prompted by your motivation to protect Israel’s expansion in the Middle East.
You know this already, but the primary owners of the New York Federal Reserve Bank are Jewish as are almost all key financial officials in the United States. If the Jewish people hate Wall Street so much, they certainly have a strange way of showing it, pretending to be Wall Street itself, while occupying and operating Wall Street through their operatives at the Fed.
One doesn’t have to be a rocket scientist to see the motivation in your wild scenario. But perhaps your most startling projection is that a former KGB official, who witnessed the Bolshevik destruction of his country and is now a Russian patriot and the most decisive leader on the planet, would be interested in any kind of partnership with the proven warmonger, Netanyahu, who already has approved Ukraine as a "second home" for the Jewish people.
Best speech given in Congress in years....President Dindu Nuffins will respond....as soon as ESPN SportsCenter is over....
So you got Iran that calls for the destruction of both the US and Israel; that supports terrorists organizations such as Hezbollah and Hamas; that is behind some terrorist attacks; that has enough oil resources that not necessitates the development of nuclear energy and people still think they don't pursue nuclear weapons?
Regardless of what you think of Israel, a nuclear Iran would make a lot of people nervous in the ME.
Even the Mossad issued a public statement that Iran does not have the capability to produce a nuclear weapon.
Boycott Iran ? Dafuq ? Why not about boycotting Israel instead ? It would be much more good for the world peace.
And... Why is the Israel's Prime Minister giving a speech to the Congress?
Could any Head of State of the World give a speech in the US Congress?
Does the Congress act in behalf of the United States' people or in behalf of Israel? Their interests (people of the US, State of Israel) are not always concurrent, am I right? Am I wrong? Enlight me, please.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/98907-calderon-condemns...
This is the bill Obama was against and of course failed, but I guess you democrats have both a short memory and and even less substance. Republicans are no better, just a tiny bit more polished in their stupidity.
I'm a foreigner. Not a US citizen.
I'd just like to know...
You know Iran can legally enrich Uranium by international law, right?
ZH is where the anti-Semites come to hang out.
there you have it
80% of ZH hates Israel
Brilliant
Alah has many brothers here
Hug a Jihadi
watch your back
Everyone applauds Netanyahu’s strength of character and his unwavering dedication to his nation’s integrity, politically; militarily; religiously; ethnically; historically.
A US President, any US President (or Member of Congress), who sees and defends the United States in exactly the same manner, but disagrees with Netanyahu, even on the most minuscule minutia is labeled an anti-Semite leading a nation of anti-Semites.
Those who want strong leaders of one nation and compliant leaders of other nations are neither universal in thought nor worldly in rationalization and expectations.
What did George Washington (a strong leader) say about things:
*Beware of the formation of political parties.
*Maintain religion and morality as supports of a free people.
*Avoid alliances & foreign military entanglements.
*Balance the Federal Budget and avoid state debt.
*Keep government spending and taxes low.
*Do not weaken the U.S. Constitution with amendments.
*Do not allow sectional differences to divide the Union.
What did Susan Rice say at AIPAC:
She touted the more than $20 billion in U.S. "foreign military financing" provided to Israel since Obama took office in 2009, and received a warm reception from the audience.
So, giving military aid to Israel is good and talking to Iran is bad!
Strong is one thing: belligerent another!
The facts are clear; there’s no dispute about what’s going on here. Israel has made enemies of all its neighbors; Israel is a nation that pushes its settlements into other people’s territory and kills people who try to stop it. It is a nation that refuses to work with its neighbors to develop peace, but like George Washington said, Netanyahu can’t survive without entangling America in its alliances.
Hey, and I thought the Third Reich no longer existed.
It wasn't a bad speech. And he did offer some suggestions as to better terms for an agreement. But really, nobody with a working neuron really expects Iran to keep any agreement. No nation in their situation would. So this whole thing is really a kabuki play, everyone puts on masks and plays pretend.
I wish I could believe that even Obama's feckless, petulant behavior was a fake, but it looks rather real, and that's the big danger here. There's no easy way to make the Iran situation better, but there are ways to make it worse, and a stupid agreement is pretty much the top of that make-it-worse list.
And it was pretty much mismanaged on all sides. Boehner should probably not have offered, now, and maybe Netanyahu shouldn't have accepted, now, and certainly Obama shouldn't have acted like a spoiled brat, anytime. But given all that, Netanyahu did pretty well, and at least didn't make anything worse, except to show that the Democratic party is even more of a toilet these days than we knew even a month ago.
By "pretty well" did you mean encouraging the neocons and the Jewish Lobby to push for more money, more armaments, for Israel. Or, did you mean, perhaps America can attack Iran and slaughter the people there and take out their energy producing capabilities?
It seems "pretty well" is in the eye of the beholder. I think his visit was an insult to the American people. After creating enemies throughout the Middle East, after precipitating a devastating war in Iraq that America had to fight on Israel's behalf, and after demonstrating that a foreign leader can pull the strings of America's elected political officials like puppets, I find his visit absolutely disgusting.
"Pretty well" in that he didn't ask for the moon, he only asked for conditional terms to the agreement. Even though his real position is probably that the agreement is useless at best and harmful no matter what it is says.
If you're going to blame Israel and America's support of Israel for the 1991 and 2003 wars, you weren't paying attention. These were about the US fighting wars for Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, and for our very own selves after 9/11. The Iranians today are still mad at the US for helping Britain overthrow Mosaddegh, as if the Moslems today gave a flying fig for Mossaddegh, and that was 1953 before Israel was a serious issue to anybody, before 1956 and 1967 I don't think anybody really cared.
And just for a kicker, today it looks like Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt are the core of a new middle-east coalition. I'm not madly in love with that either, but it has to be better than them shooting at each other.
I agree with prime minister Netanyahu as to not trust Iran. Obama has no foreign policy experience. He acts like a child when he doesn't get his way. 2016 can't come fast enough for me.
You’ve got to crawl on your hands and knees and then they’re going to step on your fingers, anyway. The secret for Obama is not to crawl on your hands and knees..