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The Water Wars Are Coming
Submitted by James E Miller via Mises Canada blog,
Does a warning mean anything if nobody listens?
With the precarious case of Lake Mead, doomsayers never seem to break the surface. For years, reports of the lake’s declining levels have popped up in the news. Yet residents of the surrounding area still refuse to listen. The latest report from the Interior Department is very troublesome: there is a 20% chance of water shortages for Nevada and Arizona in 2016 if the lake maintains current levels.
Lake Mead, if you are unaware, provides 90% of the water to Las Vegas. It is also a crucial water source for Los Angeles and major cities in Arizona. Thus, it’s easy to see why residents of Nevada and surrounding states have an interest in the viability of the lake to sustain itself. News of drought or weakening levels should be cause for alarm. Often times, attention is roused with reports that water may become scarce in the immediate future. But that scare usually dissipates when rain comes, essentially washing away the fear of future paucity.
There is an assumption by people living in the southwestern United States that water shortages are a naturally-caused phenomenon. A coworker of mine who hails from the region recently informed me that most Nevada citizens don’t understand the underlying forces driving the water crisis. They ignore the fact that the present situation is unsustainable. Worse yet, they don’t see the real culprit behind a continual lack of H2O: the government.
Contrary to popular belief, the current state of the American southwest isn’t the norm. Rather, it’s an artificial creation that likely wouldn’t exist without government planning. What do I mean?
Without Lake Mead, Las Vegas wouldn’t have enough of a water supply to be the country’s leading tourist trap. The same goes for cities such as Los Angeles, San Diego, and Austin. An artificial lake created by the construction of the Hoover Dam, Lake Mead has the government’s fingertips all over it. And that means its filled with the hubris of a thousand engineers who thought they could thwart nature.
Lake Mead was created almost a century ago with the creation of the Hoover Dam. The dam was originally a make-work program pushed by President Hoover and later completed by Franklin Roosevelt. It was part of many economic recovery programs meant to mitigate the spike in unemployment brought on by the Great Depression. At the time of its completion, F.D.R. called the structure (then named the Boulder Dam) a “great feat of mankind” and “the greatest dam in the world.”
Little did he anticipate. Like all government projects, the unintended consequences wrought by the Hoover Dam are legion. According to historian Michael Hiltzik, the population of the southwest swelled upon completion of the dam. “Since that dedication year, the population of the seven states of the basin has swelled by about 45 million. Much of this growth has been fueled by the dam and its precious bounties of water and electrical power.”
The promise of water attracted farmers and developers from across the nation. The phony supply of water created an insatiable demand that was never viable over the long term. As Doug French writes, “government’s damming of the Colorado River attempted to cheat Mother Nature by bringing water to the desert southwest — water that just isn’t and never was there.”
The Hoover Dam boondoggle sprung to mind when I recently watched the classic film noir Chinatown. Starring a young Jack Nicholson, Chinatown is based on the seedy dealings of water rights in Los Angeles during the 1970s. Access to water, it turns out, has always been a topic of contention in the southern California area.
The film begins with private investigator J.J. Gittes being hired to investigate the husband of Evelyn Mulwray. Said husband is the owner of the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power. During his investigation, Gittes stumbles upon a nefarious scheme to rob the city of much-needed water and transfer it to a newly-cultivated valley. Mulwray ends up dead for discovering the plan. Gittes struggles to put the pieces together while protecting Mulwray’s widow from danger.
Chinatown is considered a classic of American cinema because it portrays the unsavory underbelly of black market activity. Government corruption is a prominent theme, but the state is also portrayed as a positive mechanism for distributing water rights. Mulwray is regarded as a hero for transferring the responsibility of water allocation “to the people” rather than keep it in private hands. The idea that government arrogance is to blame for water misappropriation is not an explored theme of the film.
Gittes finds out the hard way that passing the ownership of water from private to public doesn’t weed out the tendency for corruption of the former. Rather, it incentivizes misuse of the public trust by putting bureaucrats in charge of one of life’s necessity. A shady deal is hatched to annex a neighboring valley into Los Angeles, while using this insider knowledge to scoop up the land at discount prices.
This scheme, while fictional, is loosely based on the California water wars of the early 20th century. A century of government meddling has turned the issue of water rights on its head, and further centralized control of waterways in local, state, and federal governments. Just as the residents of Los Angeles fought over water with local farmers, the residents of Las Vegas will soon find themselves fighting with surrounding states over what’s left of Lake Mead. None of the power players seem to care that the current population settlements of the southwestern United States cannot last. One day the water will run out. The sooner this reality is confronted, the better.
Admittedly, the ownership of water and its various bodies is a difficult topic. Rivers and tributaries don’t flow by man’s commands. They can be directed, but never fully controlled. Privatization of water rights would be a good start for restoring sane usage of natural resources. Don’t expect as much to happen though. Government control is far too entrenched in the process to be removed easily.
Forget it Jake, it’s socialism.
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Coming? Again, what the fuck is this shit? Way behind the curve ZH.
What a bullshit post. As far as the water "being there" or not. Look you dumb fuck, when the reservior is full, the water is most certainly there, when the reservior is empty, it isn't.
Agreed, I've been reading about the water situation in the south west for a long while... Vegas has it coming good, and the emptied aquifers that will take 1000s of years to refill (if we just stopped pulling more water out...)... The water disaster has been in the making for many DECADES. But just like the guy that jumped out of a sky scraper... 100th floor ... aok, 80th floor... aok, .... Water, crumbling economy, out of control debt... Nope, nothing to see here, move along.
I like this.
www.waterfx.co
It will, of course, come down to the elements (things that exist): H, O, Na, Cl, Au, Ag,....
The earth's surface is 70% water. Governments are now involved in controlling it and there are shortages everywhere.
Another good reason to kick out the illegals and close the border.
If there's no more water, would they be called "drybacks"?
Nope... "dust devils"
Klingons.
not sure this made it into the piece: "cadillac desert" by reisner. read it 25 years ago. gives new meaning to the phrase "we're toast"...
The primary beneficiary of water in the West is the cow. 90% of water in Nevada goes to raising cattle. One quarter pou nd of beef requires 1000 gallons of water to produce. And best of all: it's heavily heavily subsidized by the government thanks to the all powerful cattle industry. Yay!
Dirt cheap crops like alfalfa get 40% of the water. Really high-value crops like avocados and almonds are losing their water. Go figure.
Mud buds.
Moar bud ;)
That presupposes that the current immigration system is fair and effective. It's a poor assumption to make. You only own what's in your name (in theory) and have no right to stop others from moving to where they want to live. Free movement of people is the core of freedom.
Free movement would overwhelm any welfare state rather quickly, as it has Europe, and it is in North America.
I have every right to prevent criminals from destroying my standard of living, and the future prospects of my children. More than that, I have a constitional right and a duty to do so. Maybe you should invite them all over to your house and feed and clothe them until "they" decide they want to leave.
That experience might clarify your thoughts.
Simple solution: get rid of the welfare state.
Simple solution. Get rid of the welfare state.
the other half of the solution:
Get rid of the warfare state
Ellis Island, Bitchez!
When the water runs out, it will be one helluva real estate crash in Arizona and Nevada. You surely must have the brain of a chimp to own RE there.
"Water, water, water....There is no shortage of water in the desert but exactly the right amount , a perfect ratio of water to rock, water to sand, insuring that wide free open, generous spacing among plants and animals, homes and towns and cities, which makes the arid West so different from any other part of the nation. There is no lack of water here unless you try to establish a city where no city should be." Edward Abbey
EA was a courageous guy. He died from bleeding at the back of his throat, which could not be stopped?
Isn't Nestle the biggest corporate buyer of water rights?
'Nestle CEO: Water Is Not A Human Right, Should Be Privatized' http://www.trueactivist.com/nestle-ceo-water-is-not-a-human-right-should-be-privatized/ You want water? "Fuck you, pay me."Under these kroney fascist conditions we live under, its downright scary to talk about further privatizing water rights. I think Evo Morales came to power in Bolivia on the back of some globalist take over of La Plaz water. The best thing to do is to rry to find your own water.
Cheap energy = cheap water. One day people will look at a map and figure it out.
Not quite, the oxidation state of the various elements is very important.
Good luck surviving if the only form of carbon you have access to is CO2.
H2CO is better, but preferably as the hexamer. Or moreamer.
Rocky mts had a great year last year (2x normal snowpack). Lake Powell level raised quite a bit. Not the end of drought, but a good amount of relief. Why are folks so worried that they didn't equally partition the extra water between Powell and the downstream Lake Mead? It actually makes sense to keep as much of it in Powell while times are dry..... cooler temps and deeper lake makes for less evaporative loss.
Everybody gets all excited over the city use, and there is certainly waste there...especially in downtown Vegas w/ all the fountains. The big demand for southwest water, however, is not cities, but agriculture. Massive political pull to keep the agribusiness going, no matter what the costs, are what drive these crises (plus bad management of the existing water).
As for droughts, this is nothing. We're barely at the level of the last "big drought", back in late '70s. The geological record shows regular occurrences of droughts 10x as bad/long in the last few thousand years. That would be trouble....the existing reservoir system was built as about 5-7 years of storage.
Tyler -- look up your facts, and don't get your knickers all twisted about problems that aren't problems. There are plenty of real problems to worry about.
And read "Cadillac Desert" by Reisner....a bit old, but still an excellent primer on the whole water/southwest setup.
California has it's warmest winter on record and 3 lowest snowfall total. Large rainfall and snow pack deficits remain. Feb. 2014
Feb. 2013. Snowpack below normal. January - February in the southern rockies the driest on record.
I'm not sure where the Rockies had a great year last year?
Lake Mead Levels change.
March 2012 - unchanged
March 2013 - + 0.01
March 2014 - negative 0.11
NOAA - I see no good year and nice rise in Lake Mead. Is there a source other than NOAA?
agreed. i didn't say the drought is over, but it is uneven. the rockies did have a 2x snowpack on average last year (winter of 13-14), and what i said was that the rise was only seen in Lake Powell, not in Lake Mead, which really does make sense from a water management standpoint.
Forty years in S.F., I've never seen a winter like this. 60s pretty much every day in January. And not a drop of rain.
Must say, I don't miss the chilly weather. S.F. is the new LA.
Up here in the Northwest, I have never seen the Cascade mountains with this little snow. It looks like July ..in March
THe Southwest's problems are multiplied exponentially by "modern" agriculture which, in addition to poisoning systems, inventing genetically modified frankenfood, and patenting food in violation of 120 years of legal principle, has utterly destroyed natural water delivery systems, destroyed farm ponds, placed water sucking monocrops in environments where they do not belong and a host of other idiotic, self destructive, suicidal systems.
permaculture methods can repair a great deal and restore water retention to the soil
but we need to get moving
yesterday
Last I looked we have plenty of H and O. So what's the problem? 2H+O= water. Energy you say. Well I can't think of everything.
Last month gas was cheaper than water.......
Believe it or not. It wasn't too long ago in the US that you were not charged anything, Zero, for your tap water usage. Imagine that? It was only when we became aware of potential water shortages that they could charge for water usage. Now it costs just a much if not more than your energy usage.
Tap water in Europe is ungoldy expensive, btw. Welcome to the American Soviet.
Socialist centrally planned Govs fabricating fear in order to increase tax revenue from the plebs or to fabricate fears as justifaction for their need and reason for war is nothing new. It is a sign of their desperation before a power shift.
It was free in Ireland, considereed a public common and a right. Now those folks are to be charged/taxed for it as a way to pay for their banks disgressions.
Seeing what happens with gubbermints call for rationing water during heavy use times and restricting it's use is like glimpsing into the future of the Internet. This net neutrality bullshit may not be a complete take over of the Internet just yet, but it is a step in that direction. Camels nose under the tent so to speak. Watch for the same calls for rationing bandwidth once the govt really gets ahold of it and runs it like a utility. You will be hearing pleas to reduce usage and not stream movies during 'peak usage' times, just like water and power ( govt owned or controlled, obviously) do now. Same shit everywhere the govt touches. Worse service for moar money.
Here's another water play. www.islandsky.com
Interesting because it represents greater self-reliance. What's the function to work out price per liter?
Do you really think water is going to run out , hydrogen is the most common element in the universe and Oxygen is everywhere on earth so just combine the two at a ratio of two hydrogen to one oxygen and problem solved , just more doom porn.
Foolisness. And earth is the only planet in our solar system with liquid water. This civilization is like those before it.
Brilliant plan. We'll provide water to the whole southwest of the country, one molecule at a time. You must of went to community college.
Oh the irony ..
The Southwest isn't so much overpopulated vs it's water supply as it is wholly mismanaged.
For instance... California grows rice... yeah, one of the most water-intensive farming crops in the world is done in the some of the more arid places in North America. It makes no fucking sense.
And, California has been making electricity/energy more expensive, squelching off attempts at desalination (which would work just fine).
Combine all these factors and more with significant special interest groups that want to protect specific streams/lakes to protect "endangered" species.... and you get a f-ing messs
There's plenty of water to go around, it's just that the southwest is managed by idiots.
It's too bad desal doesn't remove radiation.
I hear Iran has a lot of centrifuges that would work well, perhaps they'll give us a discount.
They 'used' to work well.
I hate buying equipment that turns out to be horribly defective. It just stux . . .
Re. Desalination w/o removing radiation - The USS Ronald Reagan http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-navy-knew-that-major-radiation-hits-from...
The rice is grown in the Sacramento valley in Northern California where normally there is plenty of water. The northern part of the state is not a desert.
The water used to grow rice now is not water shipped to the Central Valley, America's vegetable basket. Pull up a Google map of Central Valley agriculture. It's almost all gone.
It is an absolute travesty to grow rice in California.
It may not be as arid as southern california, but It is no tropical humid zone, where rice is typically grown. Rice is just an inappropriate crop for California no matter where it's grown, it doesn't have the heat + humidity that is ideal for it. Southern california should be a massive tequila/avocado farm, but instead they try to grow all manner of stuff here. It used to be that if you drove east on the I10 from Los Angeles, you wouldn't see anything resembling agriculture until you hit Phoenix. Now there are several agricultural zones along the highway, most notably next to the Colorado River. Understand that I'm not knocking this, I think it's great to turn a desert into usable farmland. But you can't let that happen, and then claim you were blindsided by water issues, it's moronic. California should be leading the world in Desal.
Two problems with the current de-sal situation....,
1) De-sal is VERY energy intensive.
2) So far, on the west coast, all de-sal plants are privately owned.
You DO NOT want your water to only come from private corporations.
Their first and foremost goal is to make a profit, and make more of a profit each year. Privatized water was attempted before. It was a horrible FAIL.
If man did not control nature and his exposure to natural forces, we'd still be picking berries and sleeping on trees in an equatorial forest somewhere. Which is a sign of progress to some.
The Ancient Roman Aquifers and Aqueducts still work to this day. It kept people alive in those regions during the hundreds of years of dark ages. I know, the Romans should have never messed with nature. So it's back to the trees for modern simians.
Advances in technology lead to dependence.
You can see the aquifers as having kept people alive in those regions but I can say it kept people vulnerable to and dependent upon distance agents/factors out of their control.
It may be back to the trees for modern simians but those who have secured and protected their water source (lake, river, spring, well, etc.) will likely have better chances, I reckon.
Re. Dependence. What's the first thing the barbarians do as they approach some Roman city? Cut the aqueduct of course. See Pont du Gard. Cut many times and silted up with limestone deposits. Rebuilt by Napoleon for patriot inspiration purposes.
No Shit LOP! WTF? Hasn't anyone seen " Chinatown"?
Made in 1974, but set in 1937. The history here is a little muddled and the movie actually gets most of it right, although several historical characters are combined.
That said, US water rights are a lawyers dream. Riparian rights in the east and prior appropriation (first-use) doctrine in the west. Sounds like there is some new law to be settled if anyone thinks Los Angeles is giving up water.
No doubt Arizona and Last Vegas are fucked, last to the party.
The plot summary in the OP is a little off. The scam is to dump water at night, making a false water shortage. In the mean time, in a remote valley (Owen's Valley?) they drive off citrus farmers to buy up their land cheap, but more importantly, the water rights, which are about to be in great demand because of the fake shortage they are creating, along with incest, pedophilia, nose slicing, etc.
But Mr Physics, the Global Warming story is so hard to sell this time of year..
The laws of Nature and physics are what they are...
the "laws" of man are completely irrelevant.
Barring a total reset, they'll be selling you air soon.
Too late. Fresh air in China goes for $860. In Philadelphia!? It's worth 50 bucks!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLo7tHDHgOc
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/04/10/301504334/whats-it-worth-...
We have been discusing this for years on ZH.
T Boone Pickens and water desalination infrastructure. All that water in the ocean is bubbling for new spring water via Evian water. Naïve marketing program spelled backwards. Renewable energies of Windmills, Electric coal cars, Solar power have failed.
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=how+much+water+on+earth
What happened to the petrodollar peak oil threat? Good search engine to find answers.
http://www.wolframalpha.com/
plead remain calm n' retoin to yo' seat...
This post was indeed pathetic. Fresh water is quickly becoming a limiting commodity in many places around the world but this guy over sensationalized the dilemma in the southwest. As a lifelong resident of the southwest and a student of water issues, things are not as dire as the picture painted in this post. In fact AZ passed very farsighted comprehensive groundwater management legislation in the early 80's that coupled with many other prudent measures, such as underground banking have positioned it well for the future. Central and Southern CA are not nearly as well positioned but still have many options. The author slams local, state and federal control of water law but what's the alternative individual anarchy? As the old saying goes "whiskey's for drinking and water's for fighting".
Let them drink Fracking water.......
ZH post of the day. Very nice.
When we go into a global depression and put things back into perspective, all this manmade fear will disappear.
They already do:
'3 Billion Gallons Of Fracking Wastewater Pumped Into Clean California Aquifiers: "Errors Were Made" State Admits'http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-17/3-billion-gallons-fracking-wast...
Apparently, no one gives a shit about the people living in Bakersfield.
The question is, what haven't they found yet? This was all approved by Moonbeam's people.
Nobody gives a shit about Bakersfield, for sure. Unless they're Hell's Angels, maybe. :)
The old saying goes "Bakersfield is not the end of the world but you can sure see it from there".
Ol' Buck Owens would disagree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=holBS44V5gU
Why the hell should anyone not living in Bakersfield care about people living in Bakersfield? Looking for a government handout?
But I was driving home early Sunday morning through Bakersfield listening to gospel music on the colored radio station and the preacher said, "you know you always have the Lord by your side" and I was so pleased to be be informed of this that I ran twenty red lights in his honor.
Thank you Jesus, thank you Lord
So we fuck up the water by fracking , but on the plus side the oil recovered can go to power desalination plants and provide employment in the works , a win win .
So then Monsanto can develop fracked up water resistant seeds, so humans do not drop dead when eating them but big phama has to treat the problems caused by the food and so everyone makes money ( well the inportant people )
With brilliant ideas like yours, you need to be in government.
Again, the real crux of this and similar problems is too many people.
If we don't solve the problem ourselves, nature will do it for us.
So you're saying Fukushima=Nature.
It is now.
Fukushima = cartel setting off underwater nuke....
I was talking to a japanese girl last week who swore it was the chinese doing exactly what you say.
Fog of war.
Negative. If the cartel was somehow erased, and mankind could live in harmony and trade freely, this planet could supprort and sustain 80 billion. Not saying that would be desirable or pleasant. But when you speak of overpopulation you can only sound like Bill Gates or the Georgia Guidestones builders.
'Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.'
Who here thinks they and their family will be immune from this?
I'm not too worried about dopey hippies standing up rocks.
Too many people in all the wrong places. I wonder why that is. Maybe the internet can mitigate that problem.
But wait! If we simply triple the population, we'll have more thinking heads to solve the problem!
Hah, good one.
It's the unwashed ignorant masses that are reproducing; wonder where that leads?
It leads to Eugenics.
In forwards, or in reverse?
I know ... let's build a bullet train to nowhere !
call it the desalination train and california nuts will vote for it
Bitch moan bitch moan
Those fucking people deserve whatever they get... Lets go live in the middle of a fucking desert...
But they were lied to...and besides, everyone else was doing it.
Too bad our education did not teach us to think.
Of course us idiots who refuse to live in a earthquake zone or hurricane path, desert, edge of an earthen cliff prone to slides or a overgrown forest prone to wildfires, still is forced to pay for those who do, just like those who don't pay their bills or debts. Every American will be forced to pay for these fools in the desert who will insist it is their RIGHT to live where they please (including all of the conveniences of course).
Its a fucking tragedy.
No! Its a crisis!
No! its climate change which every American must pay for.
They never wanted to teach you to think. If you think, you might ask questions. Shut up peasant and work so you can pay your tribute
General Grammar, Aristotelian Logic, and Classical Rhetoric comprise the first three rules-based subjects of the 7 Liberal Arts and Sciences. As these disciplines are learned and practiced together, they form the overarching, symbiotic system for establishing clarity and consistency of personal thought called the Trivium.
http://www.triviumeducation.com/
It's Chinatown 'bro. Don't ask.
One word: Desalination
Most of the world's surface is covered with water.
Desalination on such a scale is very energy intensive. So, long oil and coal then?
They can use Hoover Dam hydro power ... oh ... wait
No No It might work. Water to electricity, electricy to water, and then just recycle. Will there be any water left over for us?
well, what about that solar thing..? Southwest has no shortage of sun ( assuming the goobermint doesn't take it over )
Not much water though... that's the fucking point you stupid fuck. So, how's that sun going to help again?
If you are refering to desalination you can already buy devices that have a 4 to 5 foot footprint that will allow one man to purify dirty water or salt water and survive using the sun. The issue is what about a county like L.A. with 20 million people?
Again, MATH matters.
Wonderful how you demonstrate the laws of human nature...using ad hominem arguments and using sexual terminology to show your temper.
4.5 x 20,000,000 / 43560 = 2,066 acres. What's the big deal?
If math matters so much why do you insist on using words? Just tell us in math what you think.
You'd have to pipe it of course, but the vast and arid landscape of that region for solar powered de-salinization seems like it would go together like peanut butter & jelly, no...?
Math matters. How fast will those solar rays pump the water and desalinate it?
Show me the fucking data. You can already buy devices for camping that will allow one man to survive by purifying dirty or salt water. Of course, he's got to transport it.
Until the math no longer matters.
At some point, folks will have to devote more time to survival and less time on their video games ----- either that or they will die of thirst. On a long enough timeline, you can not keep stealing water.
<<Math matters. How fast will those solar rays pump the water and desalinate it?>>
Unfortunately, desalinization is to water supplies what shale oil is to fuel supplies. If you want to pay about quintuple what you pay for water now, that's fine. Most folks won't be able to afford it, however.
What? What's that you say? It will get cheaper as time goes on? The market competition will bring the price down? Two word to answer that: compact discs. We were told that CDs had to cost twice what LPs cost because they were so much more expensive to produce. Then they replaced LPs, became ubiquitous, and the price to produce prerecorded CDs fell to pennies per disc. Did the retail price of new releases come back down? Nope.
And as the article pointed out, the government is all up in the water rights bidness. Do we think that desalinization will be anything but a crony corporatist cash cow?! Millions of taxpayer dollars will be spent to build the plants ("tax incentives"), run the pipes ("public interest") and so forth. And folks who have to rely on the deslinated water will STILL pay through the nose for it.
So, I upvoted you because it's a great idea. But I felt compelled to point out the real world factors associated with it.
Taxpayer will pay for it.
But the companies will be privately held.
most of the world's water is tainted with salt and we can't make due with the trillions of gallons desalinated by the unlimited energy of the sun. Soo yah we can jump right on that and find an equivalent amount of free energy here on earth to desalinate our own trillions of gallons. Well, get a move on.
Speaking of water, is Hillary a Sea Donkey or a River-pig?
Sea hag.
I'll have a wet nurse thankyou
Sadly, this writer doesn't understand water rights, or even water, at all. The problem isn't "government", it's a 1927 water compact made during the wettest period out west in modern history. "Rights" to water that ignore variations in precipitation and flows are flawed to the core. While Las Vegas benefits from Lake Mead, the Colorado River is oversubscribed by several times now and, if western drought continues, nature will win over gambling.
The house (planet) always wins.
Technology will always produce what we need. I'm sure apple could build a water app. Unfortunately steve jobs died so we are all fucked.
There's still a lot of water in Mead. Would not a couple of heavy annual snowfalls in the Rockies fill it back up again?
I'll drink to that. How much water is needed to make a fifth of bourbon?
Abolut 0.6 of a fifth, assuming 80 proof.
New Anonymous op as White House still ignores murder of American reporter Serena Shim in Turkey
sad story that, and i apologize for the quip some time back - pretty young woman trying to make a difference looks like
The War you don't hear about in the ME (and I've been telling you for almost 2 years) is the War for Syrian water, needed and used downstream by Jordan Valley Farmers/Settlers.
The Settlers vote Conservative (Likud), so you connect the dots: national elections and power politics.
Doesn't Israel want Lebanon's water?
Yes they do.Syria stands in their way as they back Hezbollah, just as Iran backs Syria,and
now Russia and China backs Iran.
Lots of American blood is going to be spilt for Israel to carry on growuing oranges.
Very good oranges to be sure, but not good enough to console the grieving mothers.
Those mothers should have taught their kids to ignore politicians and TV. Now, unfortunately for them they are fresh meat for the bankster grinder. I hope being ignorant and watching dancing with stars was worth it.
Israeli Merkava tanks were on their way to the Letani river. They ended up being towed back over the border.
Let those fuckin commies, libtards and illegals drink fracking water. Fuck 'em, and the sooner the better.
Southern CA is republican and has no native water. The libtards live up north where there's still a bit of it. Nobody ships water north in CA :)
We tried to hide some droughts from some folks.
If you like your water, you can keep your water.
If we can pipe oil all over the place why not water? Last I checked Oregon and Washington were wet as shit and pretty close to California...
They might hurt some desert turtles while building the pipeline. Better not risk it. /s
we're kinda busy spending trillions to create the new world order right now
sorry, we can't spare a square
It's all about big corporations telling the little guy to quit. It's all about politicians taking the money from big business.
I've been saying for quites some time - if you think you'll need lead, you'll need water more.
That said, I have no sympathy for the Republicans who overpopulate the Southwest. Let them drink sand.
ummmmmmmm sannnnd, doh
Resource allocation and resource management are (2) entirely different things.
There is a lot of water in oceans. Draught will force new discoveries and then new businesses.
Always look on the bright side of life! :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJUhlRoBL8M
Hey dipshit. You can already buy devices that that allow one man to survive on salt water or dirty water.
The issue is doing that for 7+ billion, and growing.
The laws of thermodynamics are what they are, flux matters.
Scientists will find new methods of water purification on a large scale, it's only matter of time. And I heard already that there is plant (potato) which can use salt water to grow.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desalination#mediaviewer/File:Reverse_osmos...
There is no "getting around" the calories required to do so on a large scale, period. There is a very real carrying capacity and the laws of thermodynamics are what they are.
Yes, on the potato thing, but again, how fast will the plant grow?
I have several licensed patents, I can tell you first hand that innovation requires tremendous captial and resources.
Now you tell me, how has humanity been investing it's existing capital and resources? you really should get away from viewing wiki as a "reliable source".