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How Long Will Markets Ignore This Trend This Time?

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Did initial jobless claims just flash the biggest 2007 deja-vu warning yet?

 

Then...

 

Now...

 

It's different this time of course since fewer jobs must mean moar buybacks... which is entirely sustainable.

 

h/t Brad Wishak at NewEdge

 

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Thu, 03/05/2015 - 20:35 | 5859495 SilverMoney1
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Show it all on one chart please (2004-2015) and show me a correlation study.

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 20:48 | 5859525 Thirst Mutilator
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The... LOL 'Markets'... will ignore it as long as it takes for the money counterfeitters to PRINT themselves up enough cash & leverage to 'skim' a profit on the otherwise downside & cash out...

 

Any other STUPID questions?

 

Miffed ~ Is any of this crap getting you turned on in any way?

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 20:57 | 5859547 Money Boo Boo
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.....pretty much forever or until it swirls into a giant ball of shit juice

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 21:06 | 5859569 Thirst Mutilator
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Notwithstanding my predisposition to JUNK YOUR ASS AT ALL COSTS...

& notwithstanding my pledge to refrain from upvoting or downvoting comments...

 

I give you a +1

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 22:25 | 5859554 prudent1nvestor
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FOOL! this is zerohedge. thou shalt not have a balanced article. (as much as I love zh)

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 07:17 | 5860598 Zero Point
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Balanced article? I just searched the entire internet, and such a beast does not exist.

That's the whole point of articles I'm afraid.

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 21:18 | 5859610 ComplexCat
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I hope you are not implying that Tyler is smart enough to do a correlation study.

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 20:35 | 5859496 Gambit
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Q: How Long Will Markets Ignore This Trend This Time?

A: For as long as they want

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 20:37 | 5859500 Squid-puppets a...
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because as soon as anyone starts selling, the system declares 'SELF HELP' and all trading ceases, to reopen with a magical bullish bid

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 20:38 | 5859504 Gambit
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Lol like today... but the end is near

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 20:43 | 5859517 FieldingMellish
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Is it? How can it not continue for many more years?

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 20:49 | 5859527 Winston Churchill
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Because the Fedres cannot stop a stampede, just fiddle around the edges in a

low volume market. If you haven't seen humans stampede, its about the scariest thing you

will ever see. What will spook the herd ?

Who knows, but something will.

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 21:04 | 5859566 new game
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spook the herd - lol. fucking ugly lollipop, i do say.

 

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 21:12 | 5859592 Gambit
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 Because the point of creating, then busting bubbles is to acquire real assets at fire-sale prices.  Once they have substantially inflated the financial assets they will let them all go to shit, which will no doubt drag down the prices of real assets with.   So there is no point in dragging this for more years, unless they do not have a black swan ready yet to blame the chaos on.   

 

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 23:04 | 5859946 Bossman1967
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How long dont make be laugh just BTFD and move on records come tomorrow after bad employment numbers . Why you ask they digitise moar and moar

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 20:36 | 5859497 FieldingMellish
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Jobless claims will catch up to the market this time. Its just a number on a spreadsheet and can be changed to anything.

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 20:52 | 5859536 gmak
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Or the next time. Or... the time after that. Or .......

 

It's deja-vu all over again.

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 21:04 | 5859567 flacon
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All they have to do is change the definition, like they did with Gross Domestic 'Production' (I mean Government SPENDING). 

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 20:53 | 5859531 Dr. Engali
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"Markets".... Lol... They are as phony as any number coming out of the BLS. Emphases on the BS.

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 21:08 | 5859575 Thirst Mutilator
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Tell 'em Doc!! Oh wait you/we already did that today...

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 20:58 | 5859552 I Write Code
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Markets, sure, I remember markets, but that was before The Yellen.

Who I think is having a little trouble keeping the car between the lines, btw.  Her spreadsheet seems to be having instability oscillations mistaking printing for growth.  Lord knows how many trillions have flooded in fleeing NIRP, wasn't in her plans.  Charts are all looking wack.  Hold on to your wigs and keys, as they said back in market days.

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 21:03 | 5859564 BullyBearish
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This is not a market, it is an economic policy tool and an asset transfer mechanism.

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 21:20 | 5859616 WhyWait
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Help me with this:

Why would a financial collapse or recession be preceeded by declining initial claims?

I'm watching the job market starting to deteriorate, but always thought this was a good sign.

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 21:32 | 5859662 socalbeach
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The Initial Claims axis is inverted.

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 22:02 | 5859753 JoWazzoo
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Should be clarified for those whose eyesight sucks.  Took me a second look.  heh

Thu, 03/05/2015 - 21:49 | 5859717 pragmatic hobo
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looks like we still got couple more years ...

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 02:07 | 5860348 AbbeBrel
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Hi All - this is one of my two favorite trend indicators (the other is Margin Debt). Hedgeye has a much prettier graph - that pretty clearly shows that the cycle ain't dead, just sleeping:

https://app.hedgeye.com/insights/37263-initial-jobless-claims-context-is...

And for the definitive set of employment charts see DShort. The charts NAIL the END of recession - but the start of a recession (based on unemployment trends) is pretty squishy:

http://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/commentaries/Unemployment-Clai...

Good luck out there...
as always YMMV

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 03:23 | 5860434 CHX
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The buybacks will stop (at the latest) when all the insiders have unloaded their portion of shares into the FATHs. 

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