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Greek Minister Threatens Europe With Flood Of Jihadists And Immigrants If Greece Fails

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It wasn't even a full 24 hours after Greece raided at least some of the funds of its pension and other public entities in order to make a €310 payment to the IMF, the first of four this month (the balance is 350 million on March 13, 580 million on March 16 and another 350 million on March 20), that the insolvent country resumed doing what it does best: dispensing hollow threats. This time it was its foreign minister and leader of the Independent Greeks party - Syriza's junion coalition partner - Nikos Kotzias, who showed how to bluff like the best of them, when he threatened that "there will be tens of millions of immigrants and thousands of jihadists, if you take out Greece" the minister said on before EU foreign ministers meeting in Riga.

As quoted by enikos, the foreign minister continued his blustery threats saying that "the Western Balkans is not stabilized. Then you have the Ukraine, Syria, Iraq, North Africa. This is a sickle."

The left-wing politician Kotzias also said that "what the Europeans are doping to us is cultural racism...It is a necessity to find another way of behaving toward Greece. It is also a geostrategic necessity. Instead, they chose to crush the Syriza government in its early days...What will this bring?"

The last question was rhetorical, because the answer is the last trump card Greece has: "Right-wing extremism and chaos."

In other words, now that Syriza government, having run out of money as well as all leverage and bargaining power - because clearly it will no longer threaten with a Grexit, no matter how many game theory manuals Varoufakis may have written - its only threat is to warn with a hypothetical worst-case outcome of what will happen to Europe if and when Greece inevitably collapses should Syriza not get even the smallest concessions: a neo-nazi state, which will be a transit point for terrorists into Europe.

And in case that was not enough, in an interview with Agora newspaper on Saturday, the Greek minister of defense Kammenos said that if foreign creditors insist on a hard line toward Greece, the government might be tempted to respond with a referendum. “If [lenders] question the will of the Greek people and of the government, one response would be to carry out a referendum,” adding "those who need to be convinced that “democracy exists are the Germans; suzerainty is over."

As a reminder, it was precisely the threat of a referendum that cost former Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou his post several years ago before he was replaced with the Samaras pro-Brussels government.

So how did Europe respond? 

Not good. As Reuters reports, first it was European Central Bank governing council member Luc Coene, who said in an interview published on Saturday that Greece must realize there is no other way than to reform, telling Greeks they had been sold "false promises" by radical leftists now in power.

According to the ECB Greece has two choice: hell in Europe, or an even worse hell outside of Europe:

The Belgian central bank chief said that life outside the euro zone would be far worse for Greek people and warned that if Athens wanted to be financed by the euro zone, the ECB and the International Monetary Fund, it had to follow the rules.

Now that the ECB has regained all leverage over Tsipras, it can proceed to dispense with the verbal slaps on the face: "I do not believe there is a radically different way," he told Belgian daily De Tijd. "Syriza has made promises it can not keep," he said, adding that the Greek people "will understand quickly that they were deceived by false promises."

They will indeed, and if Kotsias is right, the next party that will rule Greece is none other than the Golden Dawn neo-nazis.

Like his euro zone colleagues, Coene had a clear message for Greece, saying: "Reform is the only way ... Tell me where the money should come if the Greeks do not want reform and do not want to repay other European countries?"

The issue is that if there is anything the past 5 years have shown definitively is that "reform" in Greece, be it "wiring" tourists to become part-time tax-inspectors, or anything else, is simply impossible.

But completing the Greek humiliation was a report in Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung  according to which Euro countries’ finance ministers may decide at meeting Monday to send IMF, ECB, European Commission representatives to Athens, whose role would be to determine the government's liquidity, because nobody in Europe currently has any idea just how much, or little, cash Greece has left.

In other words, the Troika is baaaaaack. But just don't call it that.

Which means that in a few days, there will be a limo driver waiting at the Athens airport with a sign to pick up the delegation from The Institutions Formerly Known As Troika, or TIFKAT. Because, as we noted yesterday, all the Syriza government has achieved is to change the names of the most hated concepts in Greece:

  • instead of "Troika" it is now "Institutions"
  • instead of "Liquidity" it is now "Cash Flow"
  • and instead of "Third Bailout" it is now "Contract for Recovery and Growth of the Greek economy."

Perhaps like with the passage of Obamacare in the US, the Syriza government is just betting it all that the Greek population is indeed that dumb...

 

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Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:07 | 5864856 ebworthen
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Europe doesn't need any help letting jihadists and every stripe of immigrant stream into Europe unfettered.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:20 | 5864890 cossack55
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"the hell outside the EU"......like Iceland maybe?

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:37 | 5864927 COSMOS
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Bunch of B.S.  they make threats but then they raid the pockets and pensions of Greeks to pay for this ridiculous debt.

Maybe the people of Greece need to threaten and carry out some of these threats on the politicos.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:50 | 5864959 Max Steel
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Syriza Party brought NO HOPE .

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 15:08 | 5865006 tonyw
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I hate to say it but i told you some time ago they would sell out once they got into power.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 15:21 | 5865030 eatthebanksters
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Interesting that the politicians in Greece promised their people things they couldn't afford to pay for (under a system where no one pays their taxes) and ultimately the bill collector has shown up.  They should be tossed in jail for their irresponsibility. Likewise, the lenders that continued to loan them money when they knew Greece was insolvent should all be tossed in prison cells...with hungry lions.  Funny, even though Amerika has had record tax receipts the last two years, we seem to have the same problem...a terrible and manipulated economy, terrible underemoloyment, huge wealth disparity, and we are 9 days away from hitting our debt ceiling...and the administration is proposing a bigger budget this year than last year.  I have one question...who or what group is the biggest benefact of all this?  The answer to that question is simple and its where all of our ills are born.

Eat the banksters!

 

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 15:43 | 5865074 max2205
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Right. Like when you thought the republitards won back the Senate you dreamed of sanity returning to the world.....

Fucking Wrong!

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 17:14 | 5865266 Exponere Mendaces
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You "Team Red" and "Team Blue" people really crack me up. You think any one of those puppets mean anything in the USA? They're just the conduits that corporations and wealthy individuals use to express their will.

Saying one got the Senate, the other has Congress, blah blah blah - its all the same fucking hot air that doesn't mean anything. You might as well be arguing that BANK WIRE is in charge of the senate, while ACH TRANSFER is in Congress.

Its all about the money, and you're not part of the club, schlub.

 

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 22:04 | 5865938 philipat
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"in order to make a €310 payment to the IMF"

Wow, things must be really bad............

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 16:06 | 5865116 Stumpy4516
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I believe they sold out before they got into power.  They were always aligned with the bankers but deceived the Greek voters.  One sign was how Golden Dawn was demonized to remove the real change party.

Seems to me this guy is saying, it's not our fault we did just what we promised we would not do.

The other part is that they are already trying to paint any new movement that comes forward to make real changes as Right-wing extremist even before they show up.  Perhaps out of concern for the EU safety they will request the EU start assisting in internal security to root out the "terrorists".  

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 15:57 | 5865100 Salah
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but they've articulated Greece's LEVERAGE

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 15:20 | 5865023 Harbanger
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Left-wing politician threatens left-wing Europeans with Multi-culturalism.  You can't make this shit up.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 06:13 | 5866508 Dicey
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Please do not tar us all with the same brush, millions of us are sick of the cancer of multiculturalism which we never had any say in. Left wing filth and their zionists handlers are responsible. I sit firmly on the right and hate the left wing and thier zionists puppet masters with every thread of my being, it's on a scale you couldn't possibly comprehend and there are tens of millions in Europe just like me.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 16:00 | 5865103 drendebe10
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Every gubmint is the same all over the globe - s collection of sociopathic self entitlement overprivileged power corrupt turds ~who all need their skin sandpapered off, buried in salt & throwninto the nearest desert or shstk infested waters... fukem all.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:17 | 5864857 eurogold
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Greece will do anything to avoid having to actually pay back on their commitments.

Greece : a Third World Country in 2 years!

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:45 | 5864952 Bossman1967
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The ways things are looking the whole world gonna look like a third world country BOOM

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 15:00 | 5864991 Clowns on Acid
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It mostly always has.. thats why the US .. was exceptional until.. well youy know its obvious,,

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 16:40 | 5865182 Nussi34
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Greece has always been a 3rd world country. German money just made it appear differently. On its own Greece is Zimababwe.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 16:59 | 5865230 August
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Truly on its own, Greece is Turkey. 

Again.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 16:56 | 5865215 Hyjinx
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More like a 3rd world country pretending to be a 1st world country for 15 years.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:09 | 5864860 Thirst Mutilator
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That dude looks like he ATE half the potential jihadists...

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:51 | 5864937 COSMOS
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Whenever I see a fat politician I know he isnt working too hard.  I know most dont work that hard if at all but rubbing it in my face by getting fat at fancy restaurants on my expense pisses me off.

That fat fuck makes threats but the robs the wrong people.  Instead of robbing the moneychangers of their payments he robs the citizens to pay the crooks.

There is no way they can repay it, they need to default ASAP, what is going on now is they are being raided of anything not nailed down so that when the default happens it will be even more painful. Imagine the default but now no money for pensions since the funds were raided etc.  Fucking unbelivable. These fucking politicians should of been hanged a looooong time ago.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:56 | 5864982 Thirst Mutilator
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Right on! [+1]

 

He appears to be more concerned with what pies are on the dessert menu than the plight of the average homeless, starving, Greek on the street.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 15:10 | 5865009 Spectre
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The "Fat Fuck" you mention was voted in by the corrupt,lazy,tax evading citizens who always harped for more entitlements.  Politicians kept throwing them out to retain power while they themselves were/are extremely corrupt.  Complete cycle as usual where the day of reckoning has finally come to prove that you can't keep spending more than you bring in.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 15:25 | 5865037 Thirst Mutilator
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So you're basically saying that's either JEB or HILLARY in '16...

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 17:05 | 5865242 August
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Yep.  I'm hoping TPTB present the Amurican lumpen-electoriate the clearest possble choice:

Jeb.  Hillary.  Or the realization that Kabuki elections only serve to perpetuate their slavery.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 15:28 | 5865042 COSMOS
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http://stats.oecd.org/index.aspx?DataSetCode=ANHRS

They work longer hours than the Germans, I would not say lazy.  If anything, the wealthy in Germany are huge tax evaders, hiding money in via Panama shell companies.  The middle class German pays all the taxes.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:41 | 5864861 JustObserving
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Greece raided at least some of the funds of its pension and other public entities in order to make a €310 million payment to the IMF

What is the chance that Greece can ever pay its debt of 240 billion if it has to raid its pension fund to make such a small payment (0.13% of debt)?

Greece is using the same scare tactics so popular in the West to keep citizens terrified by unleashing synthetic, manufactured terror.

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

H. L. Mencken

ISIS: The jihadist movement stamped “Made in America”

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/30/isis-j30.html

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:17 | 5864870 JustObserving
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The postman always rings twice, especially after a couple of glasses of wine with lunch

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:13 | 5864872 Calmyourself
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"Instead, they chose to crush the Syriza government in its early days...What will this bring?"

Umm, profit to banksters, German solvency, can kicking, anything else we feel we need from you bitchez..

 

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:15 | 5864877 Bell's 2 hearted
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does anyone have the vegas line for the days till first greek politician a**inated?

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:20 | 5864886 Calmyourself
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Why kill him?  They will all get Bonered soon enough..  Boehner follows orders and so will they all the way to a world police state..  What is so strange is that Russia and China will be at least nominally fighting it..  God has a sense of irony.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:41 | 5864941 lolmao500
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Talking about Boehner...

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/234766-dems-would-back-boehner-in-coup...

Dems vow to protect Boehner from conservative coup
Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:59 | 5864988 Clowns on Acid
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The DEMs are just returning the favor to Boehner ...

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:18 | 5864878 Hannibal
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Iraq Arrests ISIL’s US, Israeli Military Advisors in Mosul

Iraqi Special Forces said they have arrested several ISIL’s foreign military advisors, including American, Israeli and Arab nationals in an operation in Mosul in the Northern parts of the country.

The Iraqi forces said they have retrieved four foreign passports, including those that belonged to American and Israeli nationals and one that belonged to the national of a Persian Gulf Cooperation Council (PGCC) member-state, from ISIL’s military advisors.

The foreign advisors were arrested in a military operation in Tal Abta desert near Mosul city.

Last year, a senior aide to Russian President Vladimir Putin accused Mossad of training ISIL terrorists operating in Iraq and Syria.

Alexander Prokhanov said that Mossad is also likely to have transferred some of its spying experiences to the ISIL leadership, adding that Israel’s military advisors could be assisting the Takfiri terrorists.

Prokhanov said ISIL is a byproduct of US policies in the Middle East.

http://thesaker.is/iraq-arrests-isils-us-israeli-military-advisors-in-mo...

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:18 | 5864883 Wilcox1
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When the limo driver delivers the troika delegation he could prolly double his fare (cash) if he delivers the Syriza government to the airport on return trip. Ck the luggage for bath tissue. 

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:18 | 5864884 Bell's 2 hearted
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"What is the chance that Greece can ever pay its debt of 240 billion if it has to raid its pension fund to make such a small payment?"

 

zero

 

i firmly believe tsipras and varoukas got an "offer" they couldn't refuse to go along with troika

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:23 | 5864896 Seasmoke
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Stop playing kick the Greek Olive can !!!

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:24 | 5864900 Wile-E-Coyote
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I'm waiting for the moment pension payments stop because all the money is gone. Of course we know the Greek people will just rollover and ask for more of the same.

Pathetic just doesn't quite describe it!!

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:39 | 5864935 lolmao500
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Greece should man the fuck up already, not pay the IMF, get out of the euro! Fucking Syriza weaklings!!

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:45 | 5864950 Mr Zero
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The Greek Finance Minister, Nikos Kotzias, isn't the leader of the Independent Greeks. The article has him confused with the Defense Minister, who is infact the leader of the junior coalition party. Just saying.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:49 | 5864957 cornfritter
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There!  Take that!  Now pass the schnitzels please.  Tea?

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:50 | 5864961 A Lunatic
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Anyone using threats and intimidation against the citizenry in order to meet political ends should be at minimum  JAILED. You would be. I would be.......

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:57 | 5864985 Clowns on Acid
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Obama or Eic Holder haven't been ....

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:52 | 5864966 Jack Burton
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"there will be tens of millions of immigrants and thousands of jihadists, if you take out Greece" the minister said on before EU foreign ministers meeting in Riga."

Italian defense intelligence agency reported to the Italian government that around 1 million illegal immigrants are currently camped along the North African coast, looking for transport out to sea to cross to Islands and Mainlands of Italy, Greece and Spain. The report said that these 1 million are mostly aiming to enter southern Europe and move on to 1. Britain 2. Sweden, 3. Germany 4. Netherlands 5. France 6. Norway.   The worst part of the report was that the 1 million are already in jumping off positions, in the hinterlands of Africa and the Middle east. tens of millions of people are shifting north and ALL of them plan to enter Southern Europe and aim to live in London, Paris, Berlin and Stockholm. The great lure driving them are TV pictures of life in North Western Europe and the promise in the UK of a free apartment or house, free health care, free language and education for the kids, a monthly paycheck for being on benefits. Compare all this to near starvation and homelessness of their native nations.

This is just a hint of the migration about to kick off. The people are so desperate, because those now on the coast FEAR that the flood of others following them will cause the EU to shut the borders. Thus they risk their lives just to put to sea in hopes and Italian or Greek naval vessel will pick them up and take them to their dream land in Europe.

Make no mistake, today million is followed by tomorrows 10 million, in a decade it will be over a 100 million a year demanding to be given the European dream of welfare, health care, homes, education and monthly paycheck for staying home.

The Greek Minister is right, if Greece stops fighting this flood, and begins to allow them free entry and free transport north, Germany and Northern Europe will be flooded.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 15:13 | 5865013 Calmyourself
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Take the next tranche from the troika and buy a freighter of rowboats, drop ship to Libya - Algeria, troika soon have bigger things to worry about..

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 16:03 | 5865112 Omen IV
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The instability in the ME and Africa is driven by the Empire of Chaos - nothing else - these people will blow up the established order in the EU for no other reason than that is what they have been subjected to - Mass Insanity is coming and there will be no control of the high probability of random actions everywhere

they are leaving people with no hope, no solution and no order everywhere

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 16:35 | 5865165 itstippy
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Mrs. Tippy's ancestors arrived in the U.S. in 1847, fleeing the terrible Irish Potato Famine.  My ancestors travelled from England to Ellis Island sometime prior to 1897; the fire of 1897 destroyed their immigration records.  In both cases they arrived as young newly-married couples, their passage to the U.S. paid for by relatives who scraped together whatever meager funds they had hoping to give the young folks a chance to escape lives of grinding poverty and zero opportunity.

Their travails were considerable.  There was no free housing, medical care, or income stipend for destitute immigrants (or anyone else) in those days.  There were no labor laws prohibiting their exploitation.  It was literally work or starve.

They came anyway.  Any chance at a better life was worth the risk, compared to guaranteed misery if they stayed where they were. 

 

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:51 | 5864968 Joebloinvestor
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Syriza is morphing into Golden Dawn.

Undercover tax cheat hunting via "tourists" (foreign mercenaries?).

They have to use foreigners as people don't like turning in relatives.


Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:52 | 5864972 Augustus
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Perhaps like with the passage of Obamacare in the US, the Syriza government is just betting it all that the Greek population is indeed that dumb...

 

Well, there confidence was bolstered by their first election.  The route is to continue to blame the evil lenders for complaining about getting repaid.  Then Syriza can deny responsibility for the continued socialist failure.  Isn't it always easier to sell the Free Stuff Always rather than reality?

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:53 | 5864976 Niall Of The Ni...
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Stop calling Golden Dawn neo-Nazis. Practically all "neo-Nazi" groups, among them the skinhead gangs of Little Russia with which the Kiev junta openly sympathise, are astroturf funded by western intelligence agencies. Right Sector are bankrolled in Frankfurt.

Golden Dawn are Greek patriots, with no financial support from any but Greek patriots at home and abroad.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 15:29 | 5865046 zilztrain
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No.  Nationalist, racist, extreme right wingers that openly praise Nazis of the past are the definition of Neo-Nazis.  Hiding behind the phrase "patriot" is garbage.  Call a spade a spade.  They're about as "patriotic" as the Patriot Act.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 16:34 | 5865169 Teknopagan
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did I hear a parrot talking?

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 16:31 | 5865163 Teknopagan
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bingo........ What is wrong with nationalism?

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:59 | 5864989 TeaClipper
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"

Flood Of Jihadists And Immigrants"

 

That ship sailed a long time ago

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 14:59 | 5864990 JLM
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When the "Troika" arrives the Greeks should arrest them.  That would start a different discussion.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 15:09 | 5865003 Peter Pan
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Shooting them might stop further visits. That would be even better. LOL.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 15:00 | 5864992 Jack Burton
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The Greeks have been put in their place by Germany. Read between the lines, Greeks are told that they will be ruled now by Germany, via Brussels, their entire national budget will be decided by Brussels, and priority number one will be repayment of Greek debt to European Banks.

I really believe it is that simple. Greece is not a nation it is a debt colony of Berlin. Round two of the revolution will indeed be be ultra nationalist. Maybe even an alliance of radical right and radical left cemented by hate for Germany and the EU slave masters. If anger grows, the ultimate Greek threat would be to exit NATO, kick out all foreign armies camped in Greece, including US military bases. Then the lease of a nice warm water port suitable for a Russian submarine base. That would promt NATO to invade Greece, and then all hell breaks lose. An "Anti-Ukraine" in the heart of Europe. What NATO sowed in Kiev, can be turned back on NATO by a Greek NATO exit.

Remember, Greece is still buying German tanks, Submarines and other EU arms. Imagine that, still paying for them even though bankrupt and occupied by German bankers! How does that go over? What does Greece need German Submarines for? To fight Russia? Greece ain't gonna fight Russia.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 15:04 | 5865000 Peter Pan
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And this is where the hypocrisy is abundantly clear because Greece has only one enemy....Turkey. And if Europe really cared it would tell the Turkish government to piss off and allow Greece to develop its oil and gas fileds without having to spend billions on armaments supplied by Germany.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 17:54 | 5865367 Element
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It's not just the Turks though, it's the Israelis doing it too, the Israelis are only now 'cooperating' due to their spiral falling out with Turkey, but prior to that Israel was working with Turkey against Greece's hydrocarbon claim.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 16:05 | 5865115 dogbreath
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does "Germany" even still exist to assert its will on "Greece".  There was a moment where "Greece" reappeared after this last election but has since had its ball cut off volountarily.    German leadership in my view is an extension of Brussels and its unelected unsanctionable officials.    To me its the terror of not knowing who hijacked the plane but from reading you its zee germans who are screwing greece.  I don't think the average german wants to keep carrying the greeks but the average germans have no choice.  A friend just returned from visiting his daughter.  He said the germen television had no coverage of the Ukie or much of anything else.  Its all dancing with the stars there too.  Traveling in europe last summer and the summer before so many ppeople have drunk the socialist kool-aide.  I like to met interesting people. Socialists are not interesting.   Europe should be called the Union of European Soviet Socialist Multicultural  Republics  UESSMR.  They will have their 1989 methinks.

Merkel.  Everytime there is a picture of her I see a zombie.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 16:39 | 5865175 Teknopagan
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Germany is occupied

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 18:10 | 5865417 Element
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What does Greece need German Submarines for? To fight Russia? Greece ain't gonna fight Russia.

Germany supplies them knowing it's a 'gift' to keep Greece in the Euro club, for strategic (an banking) reasons, so consider it a bribe. Same with Turkey being kept in the club, which is clearly not working out well, even after all these decades, as Erdogan haves European secularism and wants it gone and this drives Turkey away from European integration.

Greece wants the updated German boats because that is what Israel uses and Israel is the other aggressive challenger to Greece's territory that no one ever talks about as it just isn't cool at EU dinner parties. So Athens would like the subs to match the Israeli submarines.

Greece is an enduring strategic weak point for Europe which is why everyone bribes it to play along, and its politicians are such intolerable blackmailing rats (as seen above), and serial debt junkies. They get bribed anyway to play along. If the West doesn't pay then Russia will try it on, if neither pay, they threaten with the muslim horde.

Epic bitch-slap material.

 

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 18:23 | 5865450 Max Steel
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Erdogan haves European secularism and wants it gone and this drives Turkey away from European integration.

EU isn't in favor to add Turkey in their union , so you can't blame erodgan for loosing european values for a failed experiment . 

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 20:03 | 5865739 Element
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Are you hoping Erdogan will start gobbling Putin's trouser snake? The attraction of Turkey to the EU bosom was the threat of Soviet expansion. The EU community don't want Turkey because Turkey's values and culture are fundamentally not that of a European State. It's a former ME regional power and dominated by this bizarre religion of Islam. Erdogan is a nationalist and promoting nationalism and that is not compatible with a move/drift toward EU integration/federation. So Turkey does not fit in that picture. Everyone knows it. At best they remain friends and cooperate closely on security.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 15:02 | 5864995 Peter Pan
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Chaos is moving too slowly for me.

Greece should issue every alien coming into the country with a European passport and then provide them with the bus fare to Germany.

If Hitler was foaming at the site of one Jesse Owens winning at the 1936 Olympics then imagine what Merkel would do at the site of a couple of million Africans.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 16:10 | 5865122 Omen IV
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Hitler shook Owens hand and praised his performance - FDR wouldnt give him the time of day

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 16:36 | 5865162 Teknopagan
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Isn't truth refreshing. 9/11. weapons of mass destruction, holocaust.....just think guys

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 15:30 | 5865048 The central planners
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Syriza party and varoufakis are a bunch of wet twats. Now the "institutions" has no kind of respect for them, treat them like what they are TWATS.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 18:47 | 5865505 SmedleyButlersGhost
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And it's really time for the ones that posted on ZH that these guys were going to fuk the Troika blah blah blah - come out and say that these guys are twats and admit they were dead fuking wrong. And we know who you are.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 15:41 | 5865069 Lumberjack
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US, Israeli Military Advisors Arrested In Iraq, Accused Of Aiding ISIS 

http://yournewswire.com/us-israeli-military-advisors-arrested-in-iraq-ac...

 

It has been reported that American and Israeli military advisors have been arrested while aiding Islamic State (ISIS) terrorists in Iraq.

Iraqi counter-terrorism forces arrested four foreigners who were employed as military advisors to the ISIL fighters, Iraqi sources said.

According to Iraq’s Sama News Agency, three of the arrested advisors had American and Israeli passports, and the fourth was a national from a Persian Gulf Arab state.

Tasnim News Reports: The foreign advisors have been captured in a headquarters responsible for the control of ISIL operations, located in the northern province of Nineveh. 

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Many other news agencies are reporting the same...

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 16:29 | 5865161 TNTARG
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But of course. ISIS has been created by the US, Israel  & Co.

 

http://www.globalresearch.ca/america-created-al-qaeda-and-the-isis-terro...

http://www.alternet.org/world/noam-chomsky-defeating-isis-starts-us-admi...

 

The amount of shit is so high that the West is awash with it.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 16:33 | 5865166 roadhazard
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I'll wait to see them on display first. The problem is tons of "internet news" never make it to even ONE ligitimate news service. I should start a blog with "news" and see if it makes it to a link on ZH. But I'd rather have another beer.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 16:46 | 5865189 Teknopagan
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Don't be the first to stop clapping for Bibi.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 15:52 | 5865085 Who was that ma...
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But of course the Greek population is "that dumb".  All populations are "that dumb".

 

Politicians and governments count on it.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 15:55 | 5865092 rwe2late
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 Greece to pay a total of 1.5 Billion Euros to the IMF this month? ?

 

Empty threats and empty promises are all, it seems,

Syriza and the 'Independent' Party are good for.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 16:21 | 5865143 justmy2cents
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Ha ha, he thinks that's a threat "there will be tens of millions of immigrants and thousands of jihadists, if you take out Greece"- can somebody please tell him that's already happening.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 16:24 | 5865148 Joebloinvestor
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Maybe Greece should steal the plot from,"The Mouse that Roared".

 

 

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 16:27 | 5865154 roadhazard
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I can see it now, the Greeks let terrorists in and the next thing you know they are bulldozing the Coliseum.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 16:40 | 5865181 Never One Roach
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Ain't no borders great!

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 17:45 | 5865249 JenkinsLane
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Greece is like some dog that's been run over by a car and had its back broken. It's still alive

and dragging itself along using its front legs, the back legs now being useless. Instead of just

shooting the fucker and putting it out of its misery, TPTB have instead decided to build a crappy

little metal frame with training wheels to strap the dog into so it can continue to drag its sorry

ass around.

 

The bottom line with the Greeks is they collectively refuse to pay tax yet demand a welfare state.

In other words, they think the world owes them a welfare state. Given that that is the case, they

can fuck off. Unfortunately, for a variety of reasons we are all going to have to put up with that

fucking dog a while longer.

 

What's more, the biggest fucking irony in all of this is that, unlike GS, I think if they were to

default they would be able to borrow again in 12-36 months given that it's a ZIRP/NIPR world, there

is a desperate demand for yield and I believe that countries that default have, historically,

a decent record of not defaulting again immediately afterwards. If that were the case then, irony

of ironies, Greece would then be able to continue having someone else pay for their welfare state.

 

 

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 17:14 | 5865268 pcrs
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The jihadist threat always works. Sheeple believe everything you say about jihadist.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 17:30 | 5865308 red1chief
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The sheeple are easily fooled, but the empire elites know not to care about jihadists when it suits them. Look what happened to Qadafi.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 17:26 | 5865299 red1chief
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Better keep making those small payments and kicking the can to keep the empire happy, or there are cold jail cells awaiting like for the Golden Dawn folks.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 17:46 | 5865351 Element
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spiro, is that you?

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 17:48 | 5865355 zipit
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It sure will become a "neo-nazi state, which will be a transit point for terrorists into Europe."  That is Greece's future (and Europe's).

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 18:10 | 5865416 Erpfish
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What happened to that missing submarine?  Not one lost at sea, no need to panic, but the Germans only delivered one and Greece paid for two.  Then there's the war debt, now reckoned in many billions.  The game's not over yet.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 18:48 | 5865509 SmedleyButlersGhost
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And it's really time for the ones that posted on ZH that these guys were going to fuk the Troika blah blah blah - come out and say that these guys are twats and admit they were dead fuking wrong. And we know who you are.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 19:04 | 5865560 RMolineaux
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Tyler  -  Why do you spoil a good post with a stupid last sentence?

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 19:08 | 5865572 Wile-E-Coyote
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Has anyone noticed how well fed these fuckers are!

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 19:11 | 5865577 SmedleyButlersGhost
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Please add 'political' fuckers. At first I thought he was German

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 21:13 | 5865889 Monty Burns
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And if they do hold a Referendum?  Let me make a wild guess here..the Greeks will vote against austerity.

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