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Is Congress Enabling The 'Disabling' Of America?

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Submitted by Jim Quinn via The Burning Platform blog,

The Free Shit Army has jumped into the SSDI program with abandon. Once their two years of unemployment payments ran out, they suddenly developed mysterious ailments that keep them from working.
 

 

It’s amazing that over 60% of the people receiving SSDI have conditions that can be easily faked and not verified. Depression about having to get a job is considered a mental disorder, allowing the deadbeat to receive about $50,000 of benefits for doing nothing. That mysterious muscle ache which can’t be diagnosed will also do the job. Just watch the shyster lawyer commercials during the Jerry Springer Show to see how you are ENTITLED to SSDI.

 

 

The fact is this program was created for workers who got injured on the job and was supposed to be temporary until they could recover and go back to work. The workplace is 100 times safer than it was 25 or 50 years ago. Service jobs pushing paper or using computers or cash registers is not conducive to disability. Eating until you are 300 pounds will make you unemployable, but is no excuse for going on disability. Only 1% of the FSA that goes on SSDI ever goes back to work.

Workplace injuries account for less than 5% of all SSDI recipients. The billions being doled out to lazy good for nothing parasites has bankrupted the SSDI program. But don’t worry. They’ll just rob the equally bankrupt SSI program to keep paying these lazy fucks. Obama and his minions think this program is great, as it solidifies the Democratic base of non-working voters. Plus, these people don’t count in the unemployment rate calculation.

 
As Karl Denninger exclaims,

Once again Congress is likely to do something stupid.  Really, really stupid.

Sometime next year Social Security’s $150 billion disability-insurance program will become insolvent. The program, which offers income supplements to those who cannot work full time due to physical or mental disabilities, has buckled as the number of beneficiaries has soared to more than 11 million in 2014, from 3.8 million in 1984. The bipartisan Social Security Advisory Board has urged reforms.

You can’t explain this away as “demographics” (e.g. people getting older); that’s not the answer at all.  Further, not only have the self-reported rates of work-limiting disability not changed materially in 30 years but the reported rate of on-the-job injuries has come down materially.  Whatever you may think of OSHA, the fact is that “the job is getting done” in that regard.

But Congressional loosening of benefit requirements, and more-importantly allowing people to remain on disability effectively for life once they gain it (less than 1% of the people on disability return to the workforce in any given year) make the problem one that is utterly intractable without major changes.

In addition we must consider those who become disabled through either intentional personal conduct or willful refusal to follow through on a rehabilitation program.  Today you can literally smoke meth or suck down bottles of booze for decades, utterly destroy your health, and then go on disability, receiving what amounts to a $24,000 a year income between your SSDI payments and eligibility for Medicare at zero cost.  That’s not bad, and you can then turn around and make up to about $13,000 on the side without losing any of those benefits!

I will note that these gimmes are also non-taxable, meaning that we’re talking about a middle-class living for which you need do exactly nothing.  There are a whole host of people making $30,000 a year that take home less than the person on “disability.”

There are in fact people who, through just bad luck or otherwise no fault of their own, find themselves unable to work.  Then there are those who legitimately are hurt on the job.  Part of your Social Security taxes that are paid in by you every pay period is supposed to go toward the possibility that one of these things will happen to you.

But it is utterly outrageous for you to be able to buy fire insurance on your house and then intentionally burn it down to collect the money.  That is considered arson and a crime.

But that is, in effect, what we permit with this program when we allow disability claims for people who are unable to work due to self-inflicted and intentional injury, such as disability caused by the ingestion of drugs or alcohol.

Cutting that off alone would not resolve all the problems but it sure would go a long way toward helping.  So would requiring medical exams on an annual basis by physicians paid for by the government instead of “private physicians” who have every incentive to find someone “disabled.”  Indeed, independent studies have found that a very material percentage of the people on disability have the ability to perform some sort of  remunerative work.

If we shift funds to the Social Security disability fund from the Social Security retirement fund it will simply will hasten the day on which the retirement fund goes broke and is unable to pay promised benefits.  Shifting money around from one bankrupt program to another is not only bad policy it’s an act of fraud and one we must not tolerate as a society.

 

 

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Sun, 03/08/2015 - 13:35 | 5867142 chunga
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a lot of wall street money is hard to explain too

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:19 | 5867245 The Merovingian
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Because Obama!

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:39 | 5867306 NoDebt
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SS Retirement fund went into the red in just the last couple of years.  They now send out more in "benefits" than they take in in tax revenue.  The "trust fund" was all spent to zero in the Clinton years (how do you think he "balanced" the budget in his 2nd term?).  

So, basically, they're taking IOUs out of the SS Retirement Fund and giving them to the "bankrupt" SS Disability fund.  More money that doesn't exist to pay for current program expenditures.  Fine work, well done gentlemen.

"But I was promised!"  You know what?  Fuck you and your ponzi scheme.  I know what's coming- my taxes going up to keep paying for you leeches.  And when it's my turn to draw on SS it'll be sorry, kid, nothing left.  

 

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 15:45 | 5867464 negative rates
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Congress critters are mentally disabled, and they still get paid.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 15:48 | 5867470 kaiserhoff
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and it is Barry the Fairy, who has loosened the standards for disability, NOT CONGRESS!

 

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 16:59 | 5867623 Greenskeeper_Carl
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I just wish younger people could opt out of it. Sign something stating that I will not be eligible for social security, whereupon I am given all my money back, with interest, and never pay into it again. At age 30, that money not being wasted, even if I save nothing else, would be a nice nest egg. Since I won't be getting jack shit in 37 years anyway, I literally have nothing to lose. Which is exactly why they won't let millennials opt out.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 19:18 | 5867937 Wait What
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+1000

it's the primary dilemma friends and I face right now, outlined in a single ZH post.

incorporate yourself, sell shares of your life, and voila, you pay as little as possible into the ponzi. it's been done, being done.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/04/putting-the-i-in-ipo...

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 19:56 | 5868002 Lone_Star
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I wish younger people could opt out too. The whole scam just makes me pissed. If I wanted to hand over part of my paycheck to old people I'd do it myself. They don't need to lie to me and tell me that it's going to be there in 36 years, when I know it's not.

Madoff screwed a bunch of people, but he didn't force anyone to pay him.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 13:35 | 5867143 snodgrass
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The real unemployment rate is 23 percent, although it varies with state. People who can't find a job and whose unemployment benefits have expired, are forced to fake a disability in order to have some income coming in. Blame Congress and Wall Street for the situation and the liars in the mainstream media who feed people the lie that unemployment is 5 or 6 percent.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 13:39 | 5867148 kaiserhoff
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True.  Age is also a factor.  In spite of policy, laws, whatever, it is a rare business that will hire anyone over 50 for a full time, serious job.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 15:02 | 5867378 snodgrass
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18 million new immigrants and only 9.3 million new jobs - most of them minimum wage or part - time. Then there are places like So Cal Edison that replaced American workers with immigrants who were paid less.

 

https://www.numbersusa.com/news/study-93-million-new-jobs-and-18-million... and only 9.3 million new jobs - most of them minimum wage or part - time. Then there are places like So Cal Edison that replaced American workers with immigrants who were paid less.

http://www.computerworld.com/article/2879083/southern-california-edison-...

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 15:59 | 5867495 cynicalskeptic
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The US could deal with unfettered immigration form most of its existence because it was a GROWING economy.

It could absorb countless immigrants from Europe in the 19th century and early 20th century because the US borders expanded westward - land was available for farming and needed to be filled  (after exterminating the natives).  The Erie Canal was bilt with a supply of cheap Irish laborers.  Railroads were built with cheap Irish labor from the east and Chinese labor from the west.  

Railroads made money selling off all the land they got with their right of ways to new immigrants - which they transported TO that land and carried the produce from that land.  

A growing industrial base needed cheap labor to work mines and fill factories.  

The US had a GROWING economy throughout that period.  

Note that the US throttled back immigration in the 1920's and through the 1960's and tried to keep out uneducated and unskilled immigrants during that period.   Immigration increased - especially for non-European and unskilled labor from the 1970's on.

But the US eocnomy today is CONTRACTING - and it has been for some time when you take out the underreported inflation that's distorted GDP.

TODAY, immigration is part of the ceaseless pursuit of cheap labor.  We've sent most of our industrial base overseas - shipping whole factories to China and elsewhere, while sending countless systems and programming jobs - along with accounting and call center suport to places like India.  To keep costs low for the jobs we can't export, the US allows immigration - H1B's for high end jobs, illegal immigrants for the low paying ones.

ALL OF THIS HAS ONE GOAL - KEEPING LABOR COSTS AS LOW AS POSSIBLE

 

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 16:21 | 5867521 chunga
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that's racist!

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 13:47 | 5867172 l8apex
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"forced to fake..." you say.  Hmm.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 13:36 | 5867144 kaiserhoff
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Nothing is so disabling as a small, but adequate income.

                                  Samuel Johnson

Tue, 03/10/2015 - 08:18 | 5869219 Who was that ma...
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Only for those obsessed with the curious concept that they must "die with the most toys".  For the rest of us, a "small but adequate income" is highly enabling.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 13:41 | 5867151 heisenberg991
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Know a guy on disability who hits the bars every weekend and goes boating during the week. The guy is in low income housing and doesn't look disabled to me.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 13:42 | 5867157 Skateboarder
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His work ethic is disabled.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 13:47 | 5867168 Who was that ma...
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No it isn't.  He's fine.  It's society that's fucked up.  If there's a guy standing on a street corner offering free money and all you have to do is ask for it, only a fool would walk away without it.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:30 | 5867280 The Merovingian
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There is an exchange taking place, despite the appearances to the contrary ... they are sacrificing their pride for that handout, and that type of exchange used to have more personal consequence .... that is before society went all batshit PC crazy and started handing blue ribbons out to everyone. Now these people think society "owes" them, while forgetting the important fact that you first have to contribute (or at least make an honest attempt to do so) before any entitlement can/should rightfully begin.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 18:06 | 5867775 daveO
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Once again, I direct your attention to fraudulent fiat currency. Before 1971, the giverment had to pay bennies out of 'real' money. After 1971, the giverment pays it all with counterfeit money. So, of course, there are no ethics in a 'counterfeit' world. Queers are just as good as baby makers. Hyphen-nated gov. workers are paid more than actual productive workers, etc. etc. The future collapse is paying for it all.

When it comes, do not feel sorry for those who starve. They made their own bed. I once sold a house to one of them, who then went on the SSI and drugs, daily. I evicted them while they were crying foul and acting superior, at the same time. It was a disgusting display of what our giverment has created.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:48 | 5867332 Skateboarder
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Implied sarc/joke in my post, but lots of truth too.

Have shared this story ZH once before - this thread calls for a short version.

I have seen an amigo through years of 'hardship', rent & expenses from me every month, phone and computer, moral support - the works. The equivalent of gubbamin-teat-suckling payments to the 'disabled', except from a loving friend who wants to see another succeed in standing on his own feet and living a decent life, working for his own sustenance. Guess what happened? Homeboy never looked for a job, turned alkoholik, and fell off the face of the earth multiple times, followed by several expensive "reset"s from me. No one in life gets free resets multiple times - no one. Well, he did, but ultimately he failed himself, and in turn, me.

Many people DO NOT WANT TO WORK, EVER. They might even get free shit from a gubbamin or from family/friends. Most of us who go to 'work' for most of our life hours work to eat, and we directly or indirectly support those who don't work and do eat. There is a difference between wanting to work and not being able to find a job, and not wanting to work at all, being in 'good, working condition'. I have no comments on what is 'right' and what is 'wrong', as this is a fucked up world.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 16:45 | 5867574 cynicalskeptic
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I have a brother that's mentally ill.  His condition is readily treatable with meds but he refused treatment for most of his life and walked away from treatment when he finally sought it.  

He was smart enough to get a full scholarship to college but dropped out after one semester - unable to deal with the 'stress'.  He worked 20 years in a minimum wage working at a soda/beer place two blocks from home.  He lived with our parents until they moved (job transfer) - they kept the old house for him to use (paying token rent - they lost money on the place until it was finally sold).   Our parents enabled him - never forced him to support himself or learn to live on his own.  He had minimal responsibilities, and drank a six pack every evening (gotten free from work) while lusting after the latest Penthouse centerfold.  No real responsibilities or stress in his life.

I don't want to think about how much money our parents spent on him over the years (well over a half million)  I got stuck dealing with the house - because he couldn't deal with such things.  Mom stayed out of a nursing home because she wanted to make sure he had enough to live on when she was gone.  The house got sold after she died - but he was given enough to buy a condo of his own (outright) plus more money - enough to last out his life IF he stayed working and earning a minimal amount.  BUT he bought a brand new Mustang convertible too -  a questionable expense given he walked to work and never went anywhere.  It's not like that was enough to impress girls given his 'career' and generally unkempt appearance.

He had a 'breakdown', lost the job (work got tired of his antics) and ended up hospitalized because nobody knew what to do with him.  He's out of the hospital now and fully funded by gov.  Medical covered and collecting disability.  The value of the condo is exempt when it comes to disability. I think he had to sell the Mustang but it's not as if it mattereed in any meaningful way.

I've worked my ass off all my life and he's had everything handed to him.  He's 'ill' - but only because he refuses to take any meds and see a doctor (and you really have to wonder just how 'ill' he really is).  In the past you'd have to live with the consequences of your actions.  In other times he'd be on the street - or he'd have gotten  treatment and managed to support himself (as so many others have). If some other family member took him in he'd have to find meaningful employment and abide by whatever rules they had for the household.

Now he's REWARDED for his failures and gets to do pretty much as he wants - e.g. NOT work.

And if that sounds harsh - it's not.  I've seen others that had MORE to deal with get the treatment they needed and move on to live astoundingly accomplished lives.  Frankly, most of the brilliant types I know have some screw loose somewhere.  You'd be astounded at how many kids in G&T (gifted and talented) programs are on meds or under treatment for one thing or another.  They end up at Harvard or MIT and go on to make a fortune, marry a fellow geek and go on to have happy little nerds. And he IS 'smart' - smart in an abstract book way and smart enough to manipulate people to get pretty much whatever he wants.

He hides behind his 'illness' and manages a comfortable life in 'retirement' after working a total of 20 years.  He NEVER EVER did ANYTHING in life that he didn't 'want' to do (short of being forced to move into a fully paid for condo after our parents house was sold).  Boo hoo.   How many people do you know that can say that?   His normal routine was to simply ignore anything he did not want to do - and eventually people would give up trying to get him to do whatever.  

Nice con if you can pull it off.   But MY taxes are paying for it.

'Disability' for mental health issues is a HUGE con in many places. They call it 'crazy money' in Appalachia - the last resort when you can't get any more welfare or qualify for any other government help.

 

Mon, 03/09/2015 - 09:51 | 5869190 Who was that ma...
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I'm curious.  Who do you think is happier and has enjoyed his life to a greater extent, you or your brother?  Not from any lofty moral standpoint or from any societally imposed sense of moral obligation or duty.  Basically, which brother "won"?  Frankly, you sound very bitter and unhappy but I don't know you, or your brother personally so it's hard for me to say but it is my opinion that the ultimate purpose of life is not to just work, or have high morals, or be self sustaining, or be independent, or even to "die with the most toys", but to simply enjoy life in whatever way that works for you.  What's your opinion?

Tue, 03/10/2015 - 00:18 | 5872172 cynicalskeptic
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My brother is miserable.  Alone and blaming the world for his misfortunes, whining that 'nobody loves me'.   Odds are he'll be dead for a week before anyone notices.  I hope he got rid of the cats or it will be a very messy scene.

His life has been a waste.  But the sad thing is that the amount of money wasted on him could have made a real difference for so many others who faced hardship through no fault of their own.

 

As for my life - I have an amazing wife, great children and can look back on a life that's accomplished more than I expected.   I DO resent getting stuck dealing with all my parents failed to address in their lives - foremost among them my brother.   I wasted a huge amount of my time trying to 'do the right thing' in dealing with him.   But that is in the past.  No point in focusing on what you can't change.

I've worked my tail off to get to this point in life - and able to enjoy 'deferred' benefits we couldn't afford early in life.  We've traveled and enjoyed life.  While my wife and I struggled financially to get through college (the first in our families to go) our children have been able to go wherever they wished and will finish with no debt.  They haven't been limited to what was 'affordable' or 'pragmatic' though their choices have been well thought out with viable and attainable long term goals that fit their skills and abilities.  

Tue, 03/10/2015 - 08:16 | 5872649 Who was that ma...
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Good for you.  Life is short and happiness is elusive, comes from within, and has little to do with things you've acquired.  I hope your children appreciate what you've given them.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 13:50 | 5867178 brushhog
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Bullshit on that. Where are the ethics of the American corporate structure that exported so many jobs? Where was the ethic of the government that signed all those free trade agreements? Where's the ethic of a federal bank that devalues the people's savings and rewards debt instead of production?

So the whole system has abandoned ethics but the poor worker is supposed to maintain his and take it on the chin?

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:05 | 5867218 Creepy A. Cracker
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Bullshit on that.  If YOU would simply ONLY buy products manufactured in the U.S. jobs would not be shipped overseas - they would stay here.  But, the typical consumer refuses to pay $80 for the toaster that he can get for $20 when it is made in China.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:16 | 5867240 Stuck on Zero
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Said $20 Chinese toaster explodes and catches fire after six months.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:25 | 5867264 Creepy A. Cracker
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Yet the vast majority still buy the Chinese one over the one made in the U.S. 

Only buy the U.S. toaster and the jobs will come back to the U.S.  Or do you think that the **evil** corporations will REFUSE(!!!) to manufacture products that people insist on buying - just because they are... well, evil?  They don't care about making money by selling products in demand, they only care about employing the Chinese?

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 16:50 | 5867595 cynicalskeptic
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ALL corporations care about is the PROFIT they make.

And the vast majority are buying the cheapest possible stuff they canfind is because that's all they can afford....  gone are the days where US companies paid their workers well enough to create new consumers for the goods they produced.  But they ARE paying Chineses workers nore than they would have made as peasants - allowing them to buy far more than THEY would have been able to afford before.  The problem is that all that economic activity benefits CHINA - not the US.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 16:59 | 5867622 Creepy A. Cracker
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Exactly.  We, in the U.S., can't pay reasonable wages becasue people will refuse to buy the more expensive products, manufactured by higher wages, in favor of those made elsewhere by peasant wages.  In general it doesn't matter what middle class people are paid - they will go for the best value for their money, not thinking about who is employed to build the product.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:49 | 5867336 sessinpo
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And those that are scraping by while buying foriegn products would then go under because they can't afford the higher priced USA products.

That is the fallacy of your argument because you fail to realize that in a deflationary environment, incomes worldwide become more equalized. Thus, the higher average income of the US lowers while the average incomes of foriegn nations rise. That is our global economy.

To make things worse, a strong dollar hurts our exports and makes foreign goods more expensive (until they reach parody with USA made products). Either way, the lower class and middle class gets crushed.

If you are stupid enough to pay $80 for a toaster, then you are stupid enough to by ocean front property in Arizona.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 15:08 | 5867383 Creepy A. Cracker
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You obviously don't understand my posts.  I agree completely that wages will, and are, equalizing - minus shipping and government tariff/interference factors - worldwide.  The morons shrieking about "jobs being sent overseas" are the very people who are sending the jobs there buy purchasing products made overseas.  But they pretend that it is the corporations who are at fault.  It is the way free markets (yes, we have much government interference) work.  Non-free markets would simply make matters worse as seen in Russia, Cuba, etc.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:56 | 5867358 Nick Jihad
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Bullshit - no Chinese person ever leached off me via bogus disability claims. Only my fellow Americans enjoy first call on my paycheck. So fuck them, I'l do business with people overseas, who only exchange value for value with me.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 17:47 | 5867744 g speed
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I only buy US made Union shop work boots---I stand on concrete most of the day and would be crippled by  now if not for quality American union made boots--- Tell me more about your Chinese "value" that you get for "value" --then I'll tell you about my Williams and Craftman wrenches that I've used every day for the past 30 years --all made in America by union shops. Or about my Black and Decker hand grinders built 25 years ago and still working or my made in America in union shop Lablond lathe or Clark fork truck and then you tell me all about your Harbor Freight "value for value" items ---guys like you are full of shit IMHO 

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 18:17 | 5867803 daveO
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How do we fund Chinese trade deficits, I ask?

If you said, "US Treasury DEBT issued by DC"(on the back of the few remaining taxpayers), move to the front of the line. Corporations are being financed by DC to export those jobs. Honest money wouldn't allow for this. DC's means of exporting jobs would have vanished decades ago. 

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:29 | 5867273 sleigher
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betrayed by many now ornaments dripping above

 

That is where the ethics are

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:56 | 5867359 ebworthen
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Exactly.

When Wall Street and Banks/Corporations/Insurers get free money from the Treasury, why not the people?

Let's see; claim disability or be homeless, hmmm...

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 13:50 | 5867179 brushhog
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Bullshit on that. Where are the ethics of the American corporate structure that exported so many jobs? Where was the ethic of the government that signed all those free trade agreements? Where's the ethic of a federal bank that devalues the people's savings and rewards debt instead of production?

So the whole system has abandoned ethics but the poor worker is supposed to maintain his and take it on the chin?

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:46 | 5867327 Took Red Pill
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You can't always spot a disabled person by looking at them. Check this video out;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3C6848Dr2w

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 21:56 | 5868281 Tall Tom
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I was Brain Damged at birth. Fortunately that did not affect my cognitive skills but my motor skill development was retarded. That was a regenerative disease. It is call Cerebral Palsy.

 

Then as I aged that was not emough. I became infected with Lyme Disease which went undiagnosed for TWENTY YEARS. That is unfornumately degenerative and at this late stage incurable.

 

Disabled does not mean unable.

 

I can make bombs after all.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 21:46 | 5868252 Tall Tom
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Know a guy on disability who hits the bars every weekend and goes boating during the week. The guy is in low income housing and doesn't look disabled to me.

 

If that is really true then you need to call the Welfare Fraud Hotline.

 

Somehow I do not believe that is true..

 

What is his name and address?

 

I will turn fraudsters in to the Attorney General's office for prosecution.

 

I will drop the dime if you have not the balls.

 

But you are just a bullshit whiner. It does not help the cause when you fabricate stories. If it is true the DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

 

It is also how you can ACTIVELY fight the Free Shit Army instead of WHINING ABOUT IT.

 

Fuckin' WHINER. You are looking for somebody else to do something because YOU ARE TO GOD DAMNED LAZY, YOU STUPID FUCK.

 

I had a great time turning this asshole, and his parents in, to the Welfare Fraud Hotline, for Welfare Fraud and Conspiracy to commit Welfare Fraud. The parents are providing the vehicle and support for this guy who is collecting food stamps.

 

Here is the link...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP_izYhdehY

 

Conspiracy to commit Welfare Fraud is always a great charge for the rich in La Jolla, California, to face.

 

 

 

Yes there are people who will drop a dime on you all throughout these pages. So you had best not fraud anyone.

 

And you can be assured that I am combing through these pages and seeking out the wealthy who are working at FRAUD.

Mon, 03/09/2015 - 07:48 | 5868830 Pelosis Usless Brain
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What does disabled look like?

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 13:43 | 5867161 Who was that ma...
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Hmmmm.  Based on the above, SSDI is suddenly looking pretty attractive.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 13:44 | 5867164 brushhog
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I can't blame them too much. What are they're alternatives? Go to work part time and starve? I blame the congress, wall street, and the federal reserve for destroying the US economy. The question is when it runs out, what happens? Well those 2 billions rounds of hollow point bullets DHS bought, the militerization of police, and the massive surveillence scheme that the whole country is under gives us a clue.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 13:52 | 5867183 chunga
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From a purely pragmatic standpoint, when a deeply entrenched "system" is gaming you, then you might see people gaming it.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 13:44 | 5867166 oudinot
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Without free bread and ciiruses to the lowest class, like all Empires, real  revolutions would be endemic.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 13:48 | 5867177 Who was that ma...
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Would you like bread with that circus?

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 13:45 | 5867169 mrdenis
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I think they have a sign-up booth in Selma today .

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 13:55 | 5867192 joego1
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No one left in Selma to sign up, it's all done.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 13:48 | 5867176 Government need...
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It wont be long before the whole system collapses.  I dont think the status quo is sustainable for another 15 years.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 18:17 | 5867182 VooDoo6Actual
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To even be having a discussion about the obvious is intellectually dishonest to say the least.

 

Sheeple, It's what's for dinner....

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 13:54 | 5867191 joego1
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The system encourages people to destroy themselves to survive. Humanity is great.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 13:57 | 5867195 wisefool
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sarc: Comply with your 80,000 page tax code folks. Not only are congresscritters the smartest people on the planet, the environment they live in (D.C.), and the arcane rules by which they pass these awesome laws will help you make better choices than you would for yourself, your family, the widows and the orphans.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:00 | 5867204 Creepy A. Cracker
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How do I get on this train?  Next year I'll have all of my mortgages (home, investment, and vacation properties) paid off so, with no risk of losing my homes maybe I should relax and have others pay for me.  I guess I'll have to put my homes into a hidden trust first.  Or does the government not bother to verify citizenship, wealth, or similar when handing out other people's money?  Do I have to learn Spanish so I can more readily get free government stuff?

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:54 | 5867354 sessinpo
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Becareful of what you wish for. Those people will be the first to be discarded

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:00 | 5867206 apberusdisvet
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I wonder what the gender distribution is on disability.  All I know is that women can "fake it" like no man can.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:08 | 5867222 Intelligence_In...
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I work for a living.  Retards on SSI make more money than me.  Sometimes i just want to rip open a bottle of glue and start huffing.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 18:24 | 5867819 daveO
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And, possibly die before seeing the blood suckers get their comeuppance? Not me. Somebody will get the bulldozing job.

http://isurvived.org/Pictures_iSurvived-4/holocaust-corpses2.GIF

 

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:11 | 5867230 spinone
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Denied SSDI?  Better Call Saul!

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:25 | 5867259 Lumberjack
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Statement of Administration Policy: S. 557 - Social Security "Lockbox" Amendment
April 20, 1999

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=74731

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Clinton's Social Security Sham

http://www.nber.org/feldstein/wj020199.html

 

"Mr. Clinton's proposed sleight of hand commits us to massive future deficits or tax increases or both."

 

Although President Clintons Social Security proposal is terrible in itself and based on a remarkable accounting sham, it also contains and endorses the key building blocks of a very desirable Social Security reform -- creating individual accounts, using projected surpluses and investing in equities. The White House and the congressional leaders should now reshape the presidents plan to produce something that a majority in Congress can support and that can serve the nation well.

The most obvious fault of the Clinton plan is that it fails to "save Social Security". Even Mr. Clinton claims only that it would postpone bankruptcy to 2055 from 2032. After that, maintaining promised benefits would require raising the payroll tax rate to more than 18% from todays 12.4%. Without a tax increase, benefits would be cut by more than one-third.

Extending Social Security solvency to 2055 is based on a complex accounting sham so duplicitous that it is hard to believe. Heres how the trick works. Over the next 15 years, Social Security tax receipts and trust fund interest will exceed Social Security benefit payments by about $2.7 trillion. Under current law, this excess is automatically added to the trust fund. This $2.7 trillion Social Security surplus is the major source of the $4.5 trillion overall 15-year budget surplus. Under Mr. Clintons budget proposal, $1.7 trillion of this surplus is used to finance increased outlays for Medicare and defense and the presidents proposed universal saving accounts. However, the $2.7 trillion of net additions to the Social Security trust fund would keep the trust solvent until only about 2032 (or six years longer if funds are invested in the stock market). But thats no better than what we could expect without any plan at all.

Arbitrary Transfer 

To keep Social Security on track through 2055, the president arbitrarily transfers another $2.8 trillion--the remainder of the $4.5 trillion surplus--from the Treasury to the trust fund over the next 15 years. The president described this as equal to 62% of the projected budget surplus but it is not part of the surplus at all. The entire surplus is already spoken for by the new spending, the savings accounts and the automatic additions of Social Security surpluses to the trust fund. This $2.8 trillion is a completely new additional grant of money from the Treasury to the trust fund. The Treasury credits the Social Security account with $2.8 trillion and debits the governments general revenue account $2.8 trillion. This permits the trust fund to acquire $2.8 trillion in additional government bonds. Cashing in these bonds between 2032 and 2055 will pay for the projected benefits in those years. Magic!

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:24 | 5867261 lordbyroniv
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I would LOVE for them to shift funds from the retirement fund to the disability fund.  Will only quicken the day of reckoning.

 

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:28 | 5867275 ThirdCoastSurfer
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It's not the work I object to, it's the unreciprocated loyalty I am asked for (especially to Supervisors, Managers and the like). Show me an honest businessman and I'll show you a liar and tell me you're an employee who works for an honest employer and I show you a mirror and a moron. Maybe collecting Social Security for depression over having to get a job is unethical, but it's unethical on personal terms with self and comes without all of residual enmity that comes with "work".

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:36 | 5867290 petkovplamen
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yet another "Libertarian" BS article. Middle class living is now 800$ a month? Where are the outraged articles on how many trillions has USA spent on fictitous "war on terror" in the Middle East? Where are the outraged articles on how many billions USA has spent on supporting Israel since the 1940s? It's a well-known fact USA used to give a few millions a year to Mubarak so he will be pals with Israel. That's 30 years payments. But NO, the outrage is about some guy getting 800$ a month.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:58 | 5867365 Jack Burton
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1.5 trillion to invade, conquer and occupy Iraq. Now a failed state occupied by ISIS and Al-Qaeda, two forces absent from iraq before American conquest. Makes you wonder doesn't it?

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 15:02 | 5867380 Eahudimac
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This situation is no accident.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 16:44 | 5867579 Harbanger
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It's no accident that in 2010 Obama declared victory and started withdrawing US troops.  In 2011 he announced a full withdrawal and ISIS immediately filled the vaccum.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 15:01 | 5867377 Really20
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Whatever is being given back "unduly" in disability checks has already been paid to the bankers and industrialists in contorl of our government, many times over, in interest on our debt-backed currency and consumerism.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 17:05 | 5867639 Clesthenes
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… or, where are the outraged articles concerning the $9-$11 trillion that went missing from DoD, HUD and SSA (among other agencies and amounts).  See, SSA Redress.

Or what about the $2 to $5 Trillions in surpluses that show up on books of cities and counties, special districts and state governments.  These surpluses are held as cash and bonds, real estate and stocks, domestic and international; they represent taxes over-collected… for who knows how many years? When I did my research on this (about 2000), such surpluses for California divided out to $20,000 for every man, woman and child in the state; then I factored in amounts hidden in footnotes, the “dividend” ballooned to over $40,000 for each individual.  See, for example, “Who Owns City Hall?“ and Of Lords and Cattle.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 19:04 | 5867915 malek
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Do you have a reading comprehension disability?

He wrote $24,000 tax-free SSDI per year including free Medicare, plus the ability to officially earn up to $13,000 on the side (at an effective federal tax rate of less than %10) without having your bennies cut.
I calculate that to $2975 per month income (or a bit less if you have to pay state income tax on that $13,000 too.)

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:42 | 5867316 Rastadamus
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While the rich rip off billions people are upset when Joe Sixpack is getting $30,000 a year?
Gimme a Break.
Get Your's Joe. 

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 15:04 | 5867382 Nick Jihad
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If you're getting $30K annually for doing nothing, you're not Joe Sixpack, you're a millionaire. It would take a roughly 1.5 million dollar stock portfolio to produce $30K in annual dividends.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 19:35 | 5867963 duck dodgers
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Fuck you! they're "getting thiers" off MY labor...the non parasites of this world.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:56 | 5867362 Jack Burton
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In an era when physical labor is becoming only a minor part of daily work life, how do we justify an exponential rise in disabled workers? The USA is buying social peace by handing out minimal checks to millions who have no job and otherwise would be unemployed and counted as such. Better to let ten's of millions be called disabled and given a tiny monthly check and counted as Employed.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 23:32 | 5868451 daveO
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Right. The DC criminals are buying themselves time with future retirements. Anyone who expects SS for retirement won't get to retire. Even folks now going onto SS probably will outlive it. 

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 14:59 | 5867368 brown_hornet
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No. The outrage is about 11 MM guys getting $800 per month.

Alot of these people could do some type of work. But the unions don't like paying less than an upper middle class wage.

So much for the greater good. Even some people with disabilities try to do some kind of service to society. Unless they are

lazy and entitled.

PS  We should stop bailing out disabled corporations altogether.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 15:19 | 5867399 q99x2
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Been there. Done that. If there would have been decent acid around I might have stayed permenantly disabled. Now I'm being paid to do research. Still can't find good acid but I'm seeing a lot of patterns.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 15:29 | 5867429 rwe2late
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 Of course Congress is "enabling the disabling of the USA,"

as well as raiding Social Security funds to paper over the costs of that disabling.

 

Some "Congress-enabled" causes of poor health and disability are:

a "health" care system designed only to maximize corporate profits

endless overseas wars

the counter-productive "war on drugs"

urban sprawl destroying local farms and social cohesion, all to the benefit of real estate speculators

pollution from oil spills, military waste, factory farms,  poisoned foods, etc. and etc.

unhealthful and disabling work places and practices, from coal mines to desk sitting

 

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 15:29 | 5867431 SMC
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Plenty of skilled and unskilled labor available provided they are paid in cash so they do not lose their disability.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 15:30 | 5867436 MedicalQuack
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Seriously we have big problems and Congress should be all over the NSA's ass as they let them down in not advising about Hillary's email server:)  Are they worth the money we pay them:) 

This is just yet one more screaming example of why Congress needs to fund and use the Office of Technology Assessment.  It's getting sadly commical with reading the public perceptions on how email servers work, are backed up on so on.  I'd like some intelligence here on this topic and I think maybe everyone else might too?

http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2015/03/more-screaming-substantiation-to-fund.html

Yes indeed all this fiction adds to the big problem out there with people confusing virtual world values with the real world. 

http://ducknetweb.blogspot.fr/2014/03/virtual-worlds-real-world-we-have....

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 16:03 | 5867493 MollyHacker
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I know someone on SSDI and makes sure not to max over the $13000 and can run, jump & skip~rope!
No taxes!!!

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 17:00 | 5867626 Clesthenes
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“But that is, in effect, what we permit with this program when we allow disability… due to self-inflicted and intentional injury, such as disability caused by the ingestion of drugs or alcohol.”

Gee, you are so gentle when treating these dope-heads.

So, let’s discuss solution.  According to all the studies I’ve read, when SS tax collections become less than SS payments, options offered by bureaucrats and professors are limited to 1) cut payments, 2) cut government payrolls or agencies, 3) raise taxes or 4) borrow more money.

Conspicuously absent from this list is an investigation and recovery of $9-$11 trillion that went missing from DoD, HUD and SSA (among other agencies and amounts).  See, SSA Redress.

Or what about the $2 to $5 Trillions in surpluses that show up on books of cities and counties, special districts and state governments.  These surpluses are held as cash and bonds, real estate and stocks, domestic and international; they represent taxes over-collected… for who knows how many years? When I did my research on this (about 2000), such surpluses for California divided out to $20,000 for every man, woman and child in the state; then I factored in amounts hidden in footnotes, the “dividend” ballooned to over $40,000 for each individual.  See, for example, “Who Owns City Hall?“ and Of Lords and Cattle.

These surpluses lead to a couple of questions, at least, ‘Who owns them?’ and ‘When do I get my dividend?’

It seems to me that recovering this booty would be more sensible than authorizing more debt; and, certainly, a tax hike.  It would enable the government, for example, to cut taxes in half, or even collect no taxes for several years.  It would make it easier for men to raise their children; for, when money is taken from men without an equal exchange, men are less able to provide for their children.  Thus, one of the consequences of the income tax is that it legally compels them to neglect or abuse their children.  The government has even acknowledged this in the Supreme Court, yet it still imposes confiscatory taxes.

Ah, the mind spins with possibilities.

Recovery of this plunder will favorably impact some 130 million Americans: 50 million private retirees, 60 million who work in the private sector and probably another 20 million who are looking for work.  ACTIVE private workers will benefit from lower taxes enabled by recovery of such booty.

What I aim at here, is a tad bit more complicated and comprehensive than what I did before: the establishment and operation of a gold-based banking service.  Here, I aim at nothing less than a re-establishment of ideals confirmed by the American Revolution, and immediately lost by lethargy and ignorance.  The nation of America, as known today, is irretrievably lost (governmental debt is the means and measure of that loss).  It is corrupt beyond recovery; after all, what less can be said about a nation that voluntarily, and ignorantly, allowed its following generations to be so badly used (by taxes made necessary by government debt), as I have described many times in other places; for example, Bad News….

The vast majority of affected following generations are not even born yet; they had no voice in the transactions that doomed them to a birth without promise; no voice, that is, but ours.

Mon, 03/09/2015 - 04:12 | 5868694 dreadnaught
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are you talking about the CAFR? Each state has a Comprehensive Annual Financial Report of invested money-if you beleive in the scheme-then each state has billions saved up in hidden stock accounts etc, but these are NOT reported (or even spent) in the usual budget-kind of like U6 is never mentions by the BLS- I once looked and our state had a surplus of about $300 million-but that was years ago

Mon, 03/09/2015 - 19:57 | 5871470 Clesthenes
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Am I referring to CAFR?  Yes, my articles about state governments and agencies deals extensively with such CAFRs for California.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 23:02 | 5867828 Nobody For President
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BFD - as in Big Fucking Deal.

The 'little people' have found a way to work the system, just like the TBTF banks. Good on Them.

Our whole fucking country had become a 'How Do I Get Mine' deal. Every fucking body is trying to get out more that they have put into the 'system', and the system is broke and morally corrupt. Just look at, for example, the Senate Finance Committe that is supposed to 'regulate' the TBTF banks, and see where their re-election money comes from. I ain't even gonna give you the web sites - they are easy to find. If you don't puke, you aint alive.

Look, ZHers. some poor smuck gets his/her data processing-input, shoveling coal, customer service, metal-stamping, welding, order fullfillment, wave soldering, ramen patching, ...whatever the fuck job sent overseas; their unemployment runs out because their is NO fucking job they are quailfied for (and they don't have a fucking internet connection to learn a new job in web or app design [little/sarc/ here}) ... the best fucking option for them, and one I have suggested to several 50 year old plus folks, is file for disability. 

The 'system' that has allowed, even encouraged, their jobs to be exported overseas, has totally fucked them.

I know many of these people. So, they run out of unemployment, they file for disability. And if for no other reason, they qualify on the basis of PTSD. They (dumb fucks) BELIEVED in the great amurican lie: work hard, save up, live well and have a good retirement.

So how is the Social Security Fund doing? 

These are not smart people, like most of the folks on ZH. (OK, /sarc) They worked hard, saved their money as much as possible, tried to take care of their kids, and got totally fucked as they neared retirement - their jobs shipped overseas, thanks to the greedy corporations that they thought gave a shit about them, and them left with no jobs to go to, other than minimum wage flipping burgers crap - that teenagers got from them, because they worked for 29 hours a week.

FUCK ME. What is wrong with a lot of fuckers on this list that think these people are 'taking advantage' of the sytem - or variations on that? Do any of you actually know any of these folks? Have any of you actually had to do physical work for a living? AND - some of them, probaby the majority, actually have physical disabilities that preclude them from working. You know, not every fucking body works in a chair in front of a computer.

And fuck you mostly Tyler, with your 'Free Shit Army' bullshit. There is a FSA in the inner city, but the rural areas are a bit different. Use your intelligence to discriminate.

Assholes. Get a grip. 

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 20:40 | 5868088 Super Hans
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Never got benifits,  Being self employed, I was never eligible for unemployment. I refuse to get EBT, becuase I don't want the government in my life.

I do now owe a lot of money to the IRS becuase I cashed out my IRA's without taking the penalty.  I needed the money.

I will always buy american first, but I rarely find anything still made in America.  Its a fucking joke!  At Dollar Tree, they have dill pickles made in India!  Our store sell Norwegian smoked Salmon made in Greece!  I had a Ukranian guy point that out to me.  He also showed me some sick pics from his homeland after a recent visit.

 

SH

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 20:46 | 5868097 xear
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Talking about people who are not contributing to society?

 All lobbyists, 95% of government workers, most of  USA Military Industrial Complex, all Monsanto employees, all Keynesian economists, the entire "war on drug" industry consisting of huge numbers of lawyers and police and pretty much the entire prison-for-profit industry.

Almost everyone involved in the american educational propaganda industry which includes most teachers and college professors with a few exceptions here and there.The entire insurance industry and most of the banking industry. Most of the horror film industry with a few exceptions. Most of the porn industry with a few exceptions. Most if not all of the clergy. All Verizon customer service employees. Most gamblers and probably the entire city of Las Vegas. Let's include Washington D.C. too. Most basketball players and golf players with a few exceptions. Most gym teachers. Telephone solicitors, in fact all salesmen really. Most journalists (propagandists). All movie theater ticket takers who tear your ticket in half when you just bought it 2 seconds ago. All gender studies professionals. Almost the entire pharmaceutical industry. Most if not all NFL referees. The entire FBI, CIA, NSA conglomerate.

And you're picking on a few scroungers at the very bottom of this heap?

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 23:11 | 5868414 Nobody For President
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THAT is a plus 1000 xear

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