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Russia Responds To European Army Proposal: Rattles "Nuclear" Sabre
Having specifically aimed his call for a unified European Army at "reacting credibly to show Russia that Europe is serious about defending its values," it is no surprise that Russia has responded to Jean-Claude Juncker's statements. As TASS reports, first deputy chairman of the United Russia faction in the State Duma, Frants Klintsevich, told the media on Sunday that "in the nuclear age extra armies do not provide any additional security. But they surely can play a provocative role," adding it was regrettable that such ideas had already met with some support.
Juncker took a swing...
The president of the European Commission has called for the creation of an EU army in order to show Russia “that we are serious about defending European values”.
In an interview with German newspaper Die Welt, Jean-Claude Juncker, who leads the EU’s executive arm, said an EU army would let the continent “react credibly to threats to peace in a member state or a neighbour of the EU”.
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Mr Juncker said an EU army would “help us to develop a common foreign and security policy, and to fulfil Europe’s responsibilities in the world”. Nato was not a sufficient protection for the EU as not all EU members are part of the alliance, according to Mr Juncker.
The Germans are all for it...
“I support Juncker in building an EU army, if it means the termination of all EU member states’ armies and is controlled by the European Parliament,” tweeted Jan Philipp Albrecht, a German Green MEP.
Furthermore, German Defense Minister von der Leyen went so far as to note, "I think what is most important, it shows up in Europe, 70 years after the Second World War - and 70 years ago we were mortal enemies - that today the peace in Europe, in the European Union stands on firm footing, and we Step by step, more and more firmly establish our alliances, especially in the security policy. This interweaving of armies with a view to provide also have a European army one day, in my opinion, is the future."
And the Russians respond... (via TASS)
The European Union’s common armed forces, if they are ever created, may play a provocative role, first deputy chairman of the United Russia faction in the State Duma, Frants Klintsevich, told the media on Sunday.
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"In the nuclear age extra armies do not provide any additional security. But they surely can play a provocative role," Klintsevich said, adding it was regrettable that such ideas had already met with some support.
He recalled that the idea of creating a European army had never occurred to anyone even in the years of the acute confrontation between NATO and the Warsaw Treaty Organization.
"These days, when the Warsaw Treaty is long gone, for some reason there has developed a need for that," he wondered.
"One should presume that a European army is seen as an addendum to NATO. And in this kind of situation Western politicians are not shy to accuse Russia of some aggressiveness," Klintsevich said.
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It appears the Russians played the "don't bring an 'army' to a nuclear 'gun fight'" card... how long until Juncker (who even David Cameron said was "too federalist" to be EU President) calls for the creation of a European-Union-managed nuclear deterrent.
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WE LOVE YOU PUTIN!!!
Yeah but Pooty should bang his shoe like 'ol Nikita..
A picture is worth a thousand bombs;
Russia & China are blocking UN action against Syria
So, US sponsors 'graphic' photo exhibit on Syria at UN
The FBI is verifying the photos
You can’t make this shit up;
http://www.aol.com/article/2015/03/09/us-others-sponsor-graphic-photo-ex...
The real difference is the UAE is buying it's reactors from Westinghouse and not Russia....
At the required key moment in time, Russia will bomb Qatar and Saudi Arabia into their own "kingdom come"....no pun or putin intended.
i would really love to see the eu 's value menu they speak of...
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?”
http://luismmx.blogspot.com/2015/01/the-economist-2015-cover-is-filled-with.html
If you think Europe looked like crap after their last world war, just wait until you see what they look like after the next one. JC Junker should envision Ramstein and Wiesbaden looking like 1945 Dresden and 2015 Donetsk airport, except with a glow..
and no Russian Army units within a thousand miles.
And Stuttgart also...
Even with the high youth unemployment problem in Eurupe, extra armies could be looked at as a mal-investment in ways. Armies do not produce consumable goods. They destroy consumable goods for the most part, if they are ever put into action. Those unemployed youth are likely better off doing nothing (and everybody else might be better off too) than if those youth are deployed in a non constructive way. Supplying extra troops would just take more of our constrained resources away from the middle and upper classes to use in their daily business as usual ways.
Suspect Junk man's concerns about what all those unemployed youth will be doing in the coming years is keeping him up nights, and he'd rather see their unspent energies focused externally rather than internally. And in today's zero sum game, externally spent energies would likely reduce the energies available for internal GDP production and maintenance and repair. Damned if you do/don't.
Since real jobs require real resources, those youth will likely have to spend their energies in jobs requiring low inputs, both in energy and commodities. I'm guessing their ultimate fate will be with rakes, shovels, hoes, buckets, and wagons. Better off than canon fodder in a pissing contest between nuclear powers.
Juncker is a nobody from a ridiculously small country: Luxembourg.
He needs a big monster to have power, so he wants EU to become a big monster.
Go to hell Juncker Eurocrat scum!
The Russians are overplaying the nuclear sabre rattling. Everybody knows they will not use nukes unless their homeland is invaded and they are losing.
Even an idiot like junk man knows you have to be able to defend yourSELF with conventional forces. Nato is another name for USSA, and they can't be depended on - especially once the dollar loses reserve status.
I thought that Ukraine had civilian nuclear power, but it's not colored in as such on that map.
The map is looking forward a couple of years. Ukraine's nuclear power stations are at the end of their designed life.
And they are trying to cram Westinghouse fuel rods into Russian reactors. What could possibly go wrong?
Finnish Journalist Beaten for Witnessing Kiev's Ceasefire Breach
http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150309/1019238283.html#ixzz3Ttt9eymi
Interesting timing...
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Westinghouse is owned by Toshiba
Iran too has civilian nuclear power because they signed NPT . All those NPT signatory nations can use civilian nuclear powers for electricity generation . Russia made Iran civilian nuclear plants . UAE reactors are being made by Westinghouse and General Electrics ( GE ) . Both companies had a great reputation in Fukushima , Japan 2011- till date .
Why does a country sitting on top of huge fossil fuel reserves need nuclear power? The end result for both should be to generate steam to turn the turbines.
Why aren't we setting them up with some nice high pressure steam boiler plants? Those certainly won't bore their way into the earth if a coolant system fails....or if an ISIS goon jams the control rods wide open.
Saudi Arabia plans to construct 16 nuclear power reactors over the next 20 years at a cost of more than $80 billion, with the first reactor on line in 2022.
Because the way you see the problem IS the problem.
Nuke reactors is what you need when you're a desert/arid country that has access to LOTS of seawater.
Can you say "DE-SALINATION"?
And Einstien has been a pop icon for over 50 years. Uber hip, fasionable to the nerd and artists alike.
You'd think a man that deveopled the nuclear bomb would not be praised so much responsible for potential Apocolypse and deaths of over a quarter million Japanese in a few hours...
Oh I forgot, he's a Jew, they get away with crimes against humanity and are praised for it.
It's a looonnngg way from Einstein's theories to a practical nukular weapon, just ask Oppenheimer; so, -1 for you.
The real difference is the UAE is buying it's reactors from Westinghouse and not Russia....
*****
Let's hope they splurge for the BOSE HD radio and tidal wave protection package.
Ah yes .. Westinghouse... from 2010
Westinghouse Sold AP1000 Technology Developed With American Taxpayer Assistance to China More than Three Years AgoThat article appeared in 2010 ... during Bush II they also sold the last rare earth US metal production system to the Chinese.. giving them the only producer of rare earth metals .. that go into GPS etc..... does not matter which nitwit is in power .. repub or dem . they sell out US technology to the highest bidder... the Chinese often refer to he US as 'the golden mountain' .. whatever is ours .. is theirs....
http://theenergycollective.com/rodadams/47694/westinghouse-sold-ap1000-t...
Sure they can, just wind the clock back and use the daughter of the Kuwait Ambassador to show us pics of dead babies and incubators to sell this new war,,it worked so well the last time.
"You can'tt make this shit up."
These Criminal Pure Evil Psychopaths do so everyday. It's called the art of PsyOp. And, the sheep fall for it 365 days a year, 7 days a week, 24hrs a day, the store doesn't close with these Psychopaths.
"You can’t make this shit up;
Sure they can, just wind the clock back and use the daughter of the Kuwait Ambassador to show us pics of dead babies and incubators to sell this new war,,it worked so well the last time."
Speaking of making shit up, the pearl harbour fantasy, has got to be high on the list. We're told its a "suprise attack" and Pearl's commanders were 'tards but the truth was FDR KNEW the Japanese fleet was 300 miles northwest of Pearl on Dec 6 and was about to attack! Why did they not warn Pearl Harbour? FDR needed an attack on America to sucker them into the war - the Lusitania type BS wasn't going to be enough. The Pacific fleet was bait.
Pearl Harbor: Roosevelt’s 9/11Interestingly, that scumbag FDR started writing his "day of infamy" bullshit on Dec 6th!
show us pics of dead babies
That crap is real....here's the footage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnV40i8iZZI
Oh wait....that's the wrong one.
A wek before the attack half the ships were sent to San Diego. Most of those left were older ships. The day before the attack a Japanese recon sub was spotted in the harbor and destroyed.
I just watched the Imitation Game over the weekend. Same concept ala The British in WW2. Once the enigma code was broken, they couldn't just go saving all the ships less the Nazi's figure out the code was broken. So they had to let ships get sunk and their own people die.
You know - "for the greater good."
"for the greater good."
From the same article previously posted:
"..Harry Hopkins, FDR’s shadowy advisor who held no cabinet position...lived in the White House..Hopkins acted as a special emissary, paying visits to Churchill and Stalin. After the war, it was revealed that as head of Lend-Lease, he secretly shipped both the materials and blueprints for the atomic bomb to the Soviet Union."
Greater good, or warmongering assholes?
Thats the same. The same persons.
From anolen.com:
Anti-war sentiment was a potent political force in the USA in 1940, and democratic processes would have scuppered FDR’s war plans, had they been allowed to work. It has never been conclusively decided whether Dick Ellis was a Soviet spy, though Richard Trahair’s Encyclopedia of Cold War Espionage says that Ellis probably was a Soviet agent, and may have been for 30 years. Personally, I’m not surprised by Ellis, because thanks to the Venona decrypts and books like The Haunted Wood, we know that the OSS was riddled with Soviet agents. Of course, all of this is disastrous news for anybody at the CIA who doesn’t like Russians; if you’re interested in reading more about how Churchill-backed Soviet infiltration has undermined American counterintelligence efforts, check out my post Jesus, Jimmy. I think that this ‘Soviet infiltration’ is best understood as ‘infiltration’ by people who had also backed the Bolshevik revolution in 1917.
Also this article: http://anolen.com/2014/10/15/eleanor_and_isis/
http://youtu.be/aCXmYMPEAlc
WE LOVE YOU PUTIN!!!
I'm sure he loves you too.
When I think KGB......I think love.
I think Putin was on the cover of Tigerbeat back in the 70s. Right next to Scott Baio.
He had hair back then.....pretty good looking guy.
Here's a pic of him working deep cover for the NSA.
http://cdn.cnwimg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/putin-reagan.jpg
I have never seen Putin and William Zabka in the same place at the same time come to think of it.
Has this picture been verified? How do you know that's Vlad?
We could prove it to you.....but then we'd have to kill you.
That guy is way too tall to be Putin, besides, Putin was in East Germany in the period of 1985-1990. Anyways, I realize that you're joking.
I think Makarov
The 9x18 is affordable and good enough for personal protection, i.e. Constant Carry (CC).
Wish the FN Five Seven were a lot smaller for use as a CC. And a phuck of a lot cheaper, damn Belgians.
This is all setting up for the time when Israel will attack Iran, and Russia comes in to back up their Iranian allies...then the other players will join in.
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I read it from a 'magazine' circa 600 B.C.
I bet we start seeing remakes of "Failsafe" (with B-2s this time).. "The Day After" .."Threads".. "The Bedford Incident"..
Most people don't even consider full scale nuclear war to be a real threat anymore.
I just can't imagine a bunch of hipsters watching those remakes.
Why would they even warn us if the attack was underway? Most people don't even know where bomb shelters are, at least in the US.
There was a Twilight Zone I saw a while ago. It was the 1980s version. A lady finds a watch that freezes time without affecting her, which she enjoys doing to pause her kids and busy life. Well, towards the end the emergency alert comes on the television that nuclear war is imminent and she freezes time with the watch. She goes outside and everything and everyone is frozen. There's some ICBMs that just launched paused in the sky too.
The bulk of US nuclear assets ( roughly five grand nuclear bombs) can be launched by just 18 Ohio class subs simultaneously. Forget those ICBMs. They are way too slow for the first strike.
Wrong. "Use 'em or lose 'em" is the way to view fixed-silo systems, and the SSBN's are the ace in the hole. Exception is a couple of depressed-trajectory launches from near the coast as a way to kick off the insanity.
what will happen in the event of a full scale nuclear exchange is 1 or possibly 2 US subs will launch a missile that will detonate a warhead over russia at high enough altitude to cover the country with an EMP pulse that will take out electrical grids and any electronics that have not been hardened against EMP. shortly after that detonation ICBMs in silos will initiate a full scale launch- emptying the magazine so to speak. The remaining US subs will remain submerged and await orders for a second strike in the event that the US silos have reliability issues or are destroyed or incapacitated by russian counter attack. Keep in mind the russians will employ this exact same strategy
if i were counseling a young couple w/young family, i'd say get a skill and get to NW Alaska which will be upwind of the worldwide fallout and close to russia which will emerge the surviving combatant.
Or red storm rising
Read that in high school. I see it playing out now, but with the roles of the USSR and USSA reversed.
Add "Seven Days in May" to that list.
WOw...you think Putin is popular now? Holy crap if that happened.
Vlad can't wait to judo-flip more flaccid, compliant Americans!
I wonder if most people can truly fathom the enormous likelyhood of just how fast we are all heading into the next great world war..... and more importantly how it will affect them in the most unimaginable ways that could ever or will ever be possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp9xSX3nUFY
Proof that MH17 was shot down by ukrainian SU 25.
German language report:
http://www.anderweltonline.com/wissenschaft-und-technik/luftfahrt-2015/m...
Everybody who cares knows. But the caring ones are a real minority.
ZH Putin fluffer's salivation glands get kicked into Pavlovian overdrive.
Clearly the EU needs nukes to foster this new idea of European Unity.
I mean -- why shouldn't a mere customs union have nuclear weapons? NAFTA, you're up next.
They already do. France has nuclear weapons. We gave them to them.
They have enough to get in serious trouble, but not enough to really deter, neither the means to reliably to deliver them. Typical Europe.
I'm not sure how many nuclear weapons it takes to "deter". France has a couple hundred, total with a lot of them on submarines and delivered via missiles. Believe me, I'm no expert on military stuff, but it seems like they have a credible way to "reach out and touch somebody" if they needed to.
WTF? A frog in a kraut tank. What could possibly go wrong.
"I'm not sure how many nuclear weapons it takes"
Only takes ONE!
Yeah seriously, a weapon of that caliber, doesn't matter if you have 10 or 1000
Well they also have aircraft carriers as some other European navies, but if you compare them with a real carrier you will see they are silly imitations of a real carrier. Then there was the Eurofighter, which has turned out to be a total flop. Joint venture, not strictly French, but still telling. I suspect the same goes for their submarines, yeah they are nuclear, yeah they have SLBMs but in the end they will not really be up to the real task. Unless the real task is to irritate the big boys (this could be Russia or the US or even maybe both you never know with Europe) and get bitchslapped.
Frenchies via their old sub sinked your aircraft carrier and its escort destroyers in excersise .
And the very 'real' French carrier is currently in the Gulf operating in the same as 'real' US carriers, even interchanging planes between carriers.
The Eurofighter is not a flop. France has nuclear weapon armed planes.
I suspect either you are very biased or you know F all about the military.
Are you serious? Any flattop these days are a liability, they can't hide and are easy to take out. The US have about 11, realistically they wouldn't last more than about 12hrs in a conflict with Russia, that alone could bankrupt the US, as for the Eurofighter, is certainly aint great but it would perform better than the F22 Raptor and the F 35 Lightning and costs about 5 times less.
I'd prefer three Exosets to one Nimitz-class carrier.
EU borrowing from Star Wars I plot -
Phanton Menace begins as two Jedi attempt to resolve a trade dispute and eventual invasion of the planet Naboo by the Trade Federation. Unknown to the Jedi is that the situation is being manipulated by Sheev Palpatine, the Senator of Naboo and secretly a Dark Lord of the Sith called Darth Sidious. The Sith, the ancient enemies of the Jedi, reveal themselves to the Jedi after a thousand years in hiding; while the Jedi discover a young Tatooine slave named Anakin Skywalker, the Chosen One destined to bring balance to the Force—and who will grow up to become Darth Vader. Meanwhile, Queen Padmé Amidala of Naboo fights to save her people from the invasion.
Dont forget -Anakin was born of a 'virgin birth' and has special bloodline - midichlorian - that gives him royalty.
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Anu - Sumerian, sky-god, the god of heaven. Anunnaki gods
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Anakin - skywalker
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But of course -its just all coincidence.
of course - it is always Coincidence...
I always thought Anakin's father was Senator Palpatin - the Sith lord. but i guess I have to do more research.
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""in the nuclear age extra armies do not provide any additional security. But they surely can play a provocative role,""
You have to admit, that's a pretty good line.
and you can spend a whole lot of money.
war = money
Correct, juantrades! I would generalize it:
Money is measurement backed by murder.
That has become globalized electronic monkey money frauds, backed by the threat of force from apes with atomic bombs.
There are combined money/murder systems, which are inseparable. NATO countries are almost totally dominated by the international banksters, as the biggest gangsters. There is almost nothing but organized crime, surrounded by controlled opposition. Together, BOTH the ruling classes, AND those they rule over, have become forms of runaway criminal insanities, because they have become psychotically disconnected from the progress in physical sciences and technologies. Today, the same old stupid social stories are being retold with more and more fantastic special effects, so that those bullshit social stories' impossibilities seem more probable. These days, the delusion that it is possible to "win" a war with atomic weapons appears to be advancing, such as illustrated by the use of depleted uranium weapons, which was originally seen as too insane, while, since the 1990s, has become relatively routine.
When Juncker talks about "Europe is serious about defending its values," those are actually the values of the international banksters, which control Juncker as a political puppet. All of our armed forces primarily defend the banksters' frauds. Those are inseparable aspects, because "war = money" ... However, thousands of years of human history based on upon being able to successfully back up deceits with destruction and enforce frauds has NOT adapted to the development of weapons of mass destruction, except by becoming criminally insane, in the form of MAD Money As Debt, backed by MAD Mutual Assured Destruction.
I REPEAT the theoretical basis for why that MADNESS is automatically getting worse, since guys like Juncker are typical examples of the banksters' political puppets, performing for the masses of muppets, NONE of whom are able and willing to face the FACTS about the development of weapons of mass destruction:
I continue to regard my alliterative summary that MONEY IS MEASUREMENT BACKED BY MURDER as the best overall succinct summary which covers all of the social facts related to money. (E.g., any form of money backed by some commodities is then the measurement of those commodities, backed by murder. In that context, cyptocurrencies are small parasites riding on top of bigger parasites, because none of those directly deal with the deeper issues that war = money.)
My articulation of that definition takes into consideration the fundamentals that human realities are always organized lies operating robberies, because human realities are always operating as entropic pumps of energy flow. What I am saying can be traced back through the basic concepts of general energy systems, as well as how human beings live by building a mental model of their world, with a mental model of themselves within their mental model of themselves. While such models are basically dreaming with data, the feedback of that data, especially regarding whether the model assists sufficiently with surviving, results in those symbolic measurements being given more meaning by being enforced. The ultimate form of enforcement is murder, as the most extreme form of robbery.
Of course, after one recognizes that human realities are always organized lies operating robberies, the paradox follows that those who deliberately deny and ignore those radical truths were the most socially successful. The great irony with respect to appreciating more radical truths about the nature of money is that those tend to NOT facilitate and enable operating those systems of organized lies, operating robberies, in socially successful ways, since their degree of social success is based on being able to trick and fool themselves and others. In a tragic sense, more radical truth about the nature of money does NOT provide actionable intelligence, except in the same oxymoronic ways that success in warfare was based on deceits and treacheries, while success in finance was based on enforcing frauds.
Generally, people do NOT want to know that money is measurement backed by murder. Those who are making "money" within that system want to believe in bullshit about that "money." With understandable irony, those who make the most "money" within the established systems are the best professional liars and immaculate hypocrites regarding what they are actually doing. Therefore, people like Juncker operate as professional liars and immaculate hypocrites, being political puppets who seem to believe in their own bullshit, while they are able to deliberately ignore how INSANE they actually are, because, there is NO DOUBT THAT: "in the nuclear age extra armies do not provide any additional security. But they surely can play a provocative role."
The history of successful war based on backing up deceits with destruction, and then successful finance based on enforcing frauds makes good sense, as manifestation of human civilization as energy systems, which apply the principles and methods of organized crime, and thereby, surround themselves with controlled opposition groups that stay within the same basically deceitful and fraudulent frame of reference. THERE MUST EXIST SOME DEATH CONTROL SYSTEMS, WHICH ARE CRUCIALLY CENTRAL TO EVERYTHING ELSE.
Human cultures of artificial selection operate INSIDE the context of natural selection pressures. However, the profound paradox, that is a runaway problem, is that the history of warfare selected for that to be the most socially successful when done through the maximum possible deceits and frauds, which then enabled the control of natural resources to be mediated through monetary systems based on enforced frauds. Since people were most socially successful inside those systems by being liars and robbers, or in the case of the banksters, having governments enforce their frauds, there are no politically practical ways for more radical truth to provide any good actionable intelligence, in order to make more "money" within the established systems.
Overall, our society has become terminally sick and insane, since social successes are paradoxically based on being able to be back up dishonesty with violence. Given that none of the dominant gangs of organized criminals can trust the other organized gangs of criminals to not continue to become even more criminally insane, we are collectively locked into runaway MADNESS, heading towards the human species committing collective suicide.
Human realities must necessarily be organized systems of lies, operating robberies, in which context, money is necessarily measurements backed by murders. However, those who do that in the most socially successful ways tend to get away with the greatest attitudes of evil deliberate ignorance towards more radical truths about what they are doing. Moreover, since those people then command control of natural resources, inside of systems where private property is based on backing up claims with coercions, everything that everyone wants or needs operates inside of fundamentally fraudulent financial accounting systems, where the sublime paradoxes manifest that people exercise and enjoy proportional social successes within those systems by lying about what they are really doing. Moreover, since the most wealthy people inside of those systems control things that other people also want or need, there is a constantly repeating pattern that people are rewarded for agreeing with bullshit, while they are punished for not agreeing with bullshit.
Overall, the result is that a civilization dominated by entrenched systems of enforced frauds automatically becomes more and more psychotically insane. People make "money" inside of the necessarily existing systems of organized lies operating robberies, in proportion to the degree that they can deliberately ignore or deny that. Money must exist because measurement and murder must exist. However, both are drowning in their own bullshit, with no end in sight to how much worse that is going to get, since what provides good actionable intelligence within the established monetary systems always operates through being able to enforce frauds, while pretending that those are somehow not enforced frauds.
At the present time, I see no way out of the cultural cul de sac that the most socially successful people tend to be the "best" liars and hypocrites. In my view, we are doomed to drive ourselves towards committing collective suicide, because not only do the runaway systems of enforced frauds drive irreconcilable social polarization, more importantly, fundamentally fraudulent financial accounting systems facilitate the irreparable destruction of the natural world. NOTE, I am not suggesting that we should, or even could, stop money being measurement backed by murder. Rather, I am recommending that we ought to develop better dynamic equilibria between the different systems of organized lies operating robberies. However, one of the appropriately consistent levels of more radical truths is that the people who are most socially successful are the "best" liars and hypocrites, and thus, there is almost nothing but organized crime surrounded by controlled opposition groups, all of which promote basically similar sorts of bullshit, and none of which want to face any more radical truths.
Banksters are the biggest gangsters, who are extremely wealthy and powerful because of their previous degree of success at operating inside systems of enforced frauds, which levels of power and influence continues to provide them with every possible social and political advantage within the established systems. They have developed their means to effectively control political puppets like Juncker, in the context that their European Union is actually a lot like the USSR used to be. Therefore, they do NOT want to face any of the facts about what they are really doing, while it also tends to be that the people who they are paying, such as the economists who act as their intellectual mercenaries, do not want to face any of the more radical truths about what they were really doing either.
Meanwhile, all of the other more literal mercenaries can not do anything better that develop their arms race of weapons of mass destruction, which have no uses other than to commit collective suicide. After the development of atomic bombs, et alia, "national security" has become psychotic, because a military conflict that was driven out of control by the imperatives of "use it, before you lose it" regarding weapons of mass destruction, would result in there being practically no survivors of those conflicts.
"National Security" has become "Global Suicide." Such "national security" has become a psychotic state religion, backing up the state religion monetary system. However, the people who dominate those systems are the most sociopathic and psychopathic individuals, who have been selected by the long history of warfare to be the "best" at backing up dishonesty with violence, while feeling the least compassion for the consequences from doing that. Those kinds of people dominate the combined money/murder systems, through which war = money.
It is quite the extreme paradox that understanding how and why money is measurement backed by murder also provides an understanding of how and why the vast majority of people do not want to understand that! Hence, the eventual resolutions of the profound problems (that being able to enforce frauds never stops those frauds from being false) are for those to eventually cause society as a whole to go through some series of psychotic breakdowns ... However, even then, most people will probably continue to not want to understand those processes.
Discovering and demonstrating more radical truths about human realities is sublimely paradoxical, due to the ways that one can also thereby appreciate that the vast majority of people, and especially the ruling classes, do NOT want to face the facts about those more radical truths. At the present time, I believe that we will run out of time for better paradigm shifts, before those are enabled to sufficiently transpire. Hence, I believe that the human species is more probably going to commit collective suicide, rather than go through the severe cognitive dissonance it would take for enough human beings to understand deeper levels of human realities being organized lies operating robberies.
So far, the prodigious progress in physical sciences has nothing like that to be found in political science, because neither the ruling classes, nor those they rule over, want to understand that they are necessarily living as systems of organized lies and robberies. Instead, the more socially successful people are those who are the best at being professional hypocrites about that, which was the way that we ended up with globalized systems of electronic monkey money frauds, backed up with the threat of force from apes with atomic bombs.
The intellectual scientific revolutions which are necessary to better understand that money is measurement backed by murder are things that the vast majority of people, and especially the ruling classes, do NOT want to be better understood. More radical truths about human realities continues to be the most unpopular, and therefore, most socially unsuccessful strategies. The biggest bullies promote their kind of bullshit, because it works, inside of the social systems based on lies backed by violence, while those they ruled over adapted to live inside of that context ... None of them want to face more radical truths about themselves.
I promote the political science fiction and fantasy that it would be possible to develop better death controls, to back up better debt controls. However, doing that requires profound paradigm shifts, which would transform some of the most basic, currently common sense, presumptions of DUALITIES which were built into the dominant natural languages, as well as into the philosophy of science. I recommend the development UNITARY MECHANISMS in order to better understand the chronic political problems inherent to the nature of life, so that those problems could be resolved better.
However, in fact, despite the awesome progress in physical sciences, enabling the development of electronics and atomic energy, etc., the percentage of the population that actually is able and willing to understand the political consequences of that progress in physical science is so vanishing small as to be practically NIL. While I would assert that it is OBVIOUS that we should change the ways that we think about politics to become more consistent with the ways that went through profound paradigm shifts to think about physics, OF COURSE, that is not happening ... Furthermore, for the reasons I have outlined above, there are no good grounds to believe that it could happen.
The vicious spirals of the roles of money through the funding of the political processes have resulted in there being almost nothing but organized crime, surrounded by controlled opposition, ALL of which continue to operate within the same frame of reference of almost total bullshit about the death controls that back up the debt controls. Socially successful people tend to be almost inconceivably crazy and corrupt, like Juncker. They are able to spout the biggest bullies' bullshit, while that is generally presented to the public as it it makes sense, while Juncker's statements are actually runaway criminal insanities.
Unfortunately, Russia has some of the best reasons for having made and maintained nuclear weapon deterrents against the international banksters that control NATO. However, in the end, I expect that the globalized MADNESS, due to the ways that war = money, is going to spin out of control and kill almost all of us, in ways which can neither be prevented, nor effectively prepared for.
In order to prevent old-fashioned warfare, insanely using weapons of mass destruction, it would be necessary to develop new death controls systems, which were based on radical transformations in the ways that we perceived death controls, and so, enabled paradigm shifts in militarism, as the ideology of the murder systems, which were consistent with the physical sciences that enabled technologies to become trillions of times more powerful and capable. However, instead of that, we are rushing faster and faster towards the established debt slavery systems having generated numbers which have become debt insanities, which are going to provoke death insanities.
Meanwhile, the vast majority of people want to continue to believe in religions and ideologies that are thousands or hundreds of years old. There continues to be groups that want to believe that the runaway criminal insanities of the Grand Canyon Chasm between progress in physical sciences, without progress in political science, could still somehow enable the problems that is driving being prevented, or prepared for ...
There are currently NO effective ways to prevent nor prepare for globalized systems of electronic monkey money frauds, backed by the threat of force from apes with atomic bombs. The only remotely possible theoretical solutions would depend upon enough people going through enough profound paradigm shifts in the ways that they think about politics, so that better death controls could be developed to back up better debt controls. However, since the current systems are based on the maximum possible deceits and frauds, and there is practically nothing surrounding those core systems of organized crime but controlled opposition groups, there are NO realistic ways to imagine how our political science could advance enough to catch up to, and become consistent with, the progress in physical science. While that seems theoretically possible, there are NO practical political ways to do so, since almost everyone is used to indulging in lying to themselves, while the established social pyramid systems are being operated by the best available professional liars and immaculate hypocrites, like Juncker, et alia ...
Hence, the old joke that in the event of runaway war using weapons of mass destruction, one can put one's head between one's legs and kiss one's ass good bye, continues to be an expectation for the deteriorating situation ... Nothing less than much more radical truths would be theoretically possible to resolve those runaway problems, however, one of the levels of more radical truths about those problems is that the world is already almost totally dominated by the most criminally insane people, and they are the ones which are going to direct what the future becomes for the rest of the human species, especially since there is almost nothing which is publicly significant that appears to be resisting them but controlled opposition groups, which do NOT propose developing better death controls, but rather, continue to operate within the same basic bullshit frame of reference regarding death controls, and the debt controls that those back up, in the combined money/murder systems, where war = money.
man, sure is. does west have anyone capable of comparable?
Russia has always been, and will always be a land-grabber. Something about those long, cold, dark winters, lots of vodka & paranoia.... Maybe the EU can subsidize warm-weather, sunshine vacations for ordinary Russians during this time every year? and structure it so they have to go back...otherwise they all end up in Goa, peddling Nepalese hashish.
Hey, now there's an idea. European vacaitons for every Russian in August.
I think Russians have got that covered:
http://www.blacksea-crimea.com/climate.html
You are so right, could not agree more. They invaded Vietnam, Grenada, Panama, Iraq, Afganistan, destroyed Libya, Egypt, Syria, and invaded again Iraq, not to mention supplying weapons to ISIS and coup d'Ukraine. These Russians are naughty!
Fuck. Well you broke my sarcasometer; hope it's still under warranty.
I hear you. And they keep building near our military bases...
http://thesaker.is/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Russia_wants_war_look_how_...
Why can't they be like the English or Americans, who NEVER stole or colonized other people's land?
The entirety of mankind is embracing Darkness.
If I didn't know any better, I'd conclude that what the prophets who have told us, whom we ignore, are right.
Not gonna end well? End? Sure isn't even playing out very well now, is it?
It's been too long since the last major war. Sheeple don't think it's possible and have no experience with the horrors involved. Psychopaths always crave power and have to be held in check by millions of regular people.
right. Juncker's army has no soldiers, no funds and no backing (one Green German MEP tweeting is not backing), but already is it provoking Russian, British and American responses. right. lol
"even David Cameron said was "too federalist" to be EU President" - eh? yes, Cameron said that. but hey, we are talking about Cameron. a Cameron clone would be too federalist for Cameron the PM, if it would be appointed as President of the EU Commission
that's the same Mr. Cameron, btw, that wants to keep spying all europeans, independently if British or continental, and even thinks loudly of banning WhatsApp for it's encryption
Intereing for you to comment.
What do you think about a EU Army Mr. "Its just a trade union of Member States?"
I already wrote what I think about it in yesterday's article, Mr. "the EU is a superstate"
but before you search too long: what for? your question would be unnecessary if you had followed my reasoning of why I am against EuroBonds, in the last years
the characteristics of the nation state which I want to keep for a healthy confederation of sovereigns: own treasury, own debt, own taxes, own armed forces, own police
and those characteristics are in reality a knot. very, very difficult to untie without unraveling way more then what you wanted
I experienced something similar with my GF last night.
It was actually our first "real" fight. I think she finally logically realized the EU for the beast it is with these statements about a EU Army. I've never seen her go from normal to super pissed to quickly.
That being said -- how much further down the EU rabbit hole are you willing to follow it before switching sides and joining the "its no more what it was originally intended to be." camp?
well, you have hereby pissed me off, too. I'm sick of your questions where you don't even read the answers and just look for something that confirm your biases
I wrote just above: "...the nation state which I want to keep for a healthy confederation of sovereigns..."
which should answer your question, shouldn't it? in several ways and from several aspects. particularly if, for once, you would READ instead of swirling in lala-land
read my frigging comment above your question. s-l-o-w-l-y and c a r e f u l l y. over and out
I saw that, and perhaps you are at that point, perhaps in some sense of the term -- its already crossed your rubicon.
I guess my question was, more or less, just at what point will you too, openly advocate for tearing apart the entire thing, due to no other reason than mission creep.
Haus, I just realize that you understand perhaps 10 or 15% of what I'm writing. I'll give a last try, then perhaps it's me
you make A LOT of what european politicians SAY. which I find mightily confusing, from you coming from the Land of The First Amendment
Juncker has no treaty for what he is proposing. Again, HE IS ONLY MAKING A PROPOSAL. Which is actually more of a diplomatic message
and the targets of this diplomatic message are the UK, the US and Russia. with a very european undertone: "we have... options"
Juncker HAS NO ARMY. it's really hilarious how much reaction he is getting for talking about his Phantom Menace. WilliamBanzai7 is already comparing him to Hitler
so, a very last time: the status quo in europe is defined by treaties. Juncker has NO TREATY for his EU Army
Ghordius, you comments are so saturated with wishful thinking, do you not even realize you're making a complete clown out of yourself - or is that your intention?
HE [Juncker] IS ONLY MAKING A PROPOSAL
Yeah, and that proposal was not internally nodded through first? It seems not even you are questioning THAT.
So if he was told to make such an outlier proposal, there are 2 main options I see:
-It was done to provoke the Russian some more.
-It was done because that's what TPTB really want to do, in the medium term, effectively dismantling independant states with the EU, through the backdoor. (Never let a crisis go to waste, especially the self-initiated ones!)
-Both of the above.
Nobody gives a fuck about treaties more than on the surface anymore. See Maastricht Kriterium for starters.
Your downplaying of this only plays into the hands of the psychopaths.
And you cannot be so dumb to not realize that!
"that proposal was not internally nodded through first? It seems not even you are questioning THAT"
of course I question that. in fact, that's why I am pointing out that it's the EU Commission president that is making this proposal
if it was the EU Council president talking... then it would be a completely different affair
further, I have already highlighted that it's a message. to both Russia and the US. which includes the effect it will have on the UK
this drive to federalization in the EU is a very complex affair, and ZH is not the premier knowledge site about it
You're sidestepping most of my points.
drive to federalization in the EU
You're full of shit. Calling something federalization that is in fact centralization (of powers.)
ZH is not the premier knowledge site about it
Oh, the tiresome old "I know better than you, trust me (i.e. no proof given)" defense
malek, did he propose that we should have a President? vested with the power to go to war without really asking anyone?
federalization is centralization, from the point of view of sovereigns engaged in treaties and with a treaty-org. and it's decentralization from the point of view of an Union, like the UK/Scotland drive
You may call me full of shit, but I still don't understand your point
do you oppose centralization a priori? fine for me, but isn't this just a political preference? treating someone that proposes centralization as a criminal has no constitutional or legal legs
The Articles of Confederation and the US Constitution turned out to be rousing failures.
Unless you are psychopathically inclined, that is.
But... but...
The EU already has an army - the Eurocorps. Important enough that the General of the Eurocorps is a regular attendee at the Bilderberg Eyes Wide Shut parties.
Unless Junker didn't realise that a big lump of EU money is already being funneled towards the Eurocorps. I wouldn't expect Junker (wasn't that the name of an aircraft popular in the 1940s?), the man with his Finger On The Pulse, would overlook such a detail?
But yeah, I think the EU should have two armies, Mario is printing, there's gonna be tons more cash that will need to be wasted, erm, spent sensibly, so I say go for it. Especially if the Greens want an army - when the environmentalists want to blow shit up it must be serious.
(Does this farce have an emergency stop button?)
the EuroCorps has only 9 countries making contributions to it. Junker it talking about a 28 countries affair. and this talking... is meant to give many messages to many people
besides, what nearly nobody seems to realize here is that there are plenty of small countries in the EU, and they do like the idea, for many reasons
Mario, btw, has only 20% of the allotted "printing" in his hands. 80% of this euro QE is a national banks affair
Luxemburg has 900 professional soldiers, no wonder Juncker wants a European army :-)
Juncker is a sociopathic "Untertan mit Obrigkeitbewusst" (Serf with Compliance to Authority)
It it high time for Germans to openly ask the Right Question, as a German Journalist (Peter Haisenko) recently posted on his website**
"Let us pose the Right Question: 'What do we want and what we do not want?'
We want peace and prosperity. We want prosperous cooperation with all countries. We no longer want to be exploited by a debt system that dominates, which serves only the luxury and power of a small elite.
We do not want war. We do not want confrontation with Russia. We do not want American conditions, at least as far as the number of prisoners. We do not want refugees flooding us by the hundreds of thousands, because they see no future in the countries that have been destabilized, attacked and destroyed by the United States.
Yes, and yet the question must be asked, if we ever want something that meets the objectives of US policy?
It is time to put aside the wrong questions. 'What does Putin want', is said often enough. The West, and especially the United States have always framed it 'What they want'.
Although the goals of the United States are open, no one dares to ask if they're serious. As the saying goes: Never ask a question to which you do not want an (honest) answer! I mean, just this question must be asked, even if the answer can be be painful: 'What does the West want, what does the United States want?'
And my personal question is permissible: 'How can you be so stupid, as to believe anything that a notorious liar like the United States says?' "
** http://www.anderweltonline.com/klartext/klartext-2015/was-will-putin-fal...
Bullish for stawks step up and buy that paper
John Titor in 2001 said this would happen, and it would lead to wwiii:
02/08/01 09:40 (about the future) 299
The attack on Europe is in response to a unified European army that masses and moves East from
Germany.
02/08/01 09:40 (about the future) 300
Also, please be aware that from my viewpoint, Russia attacked my enemy who was in the U.S.
cities. Yes, the U.S. did counter attack.
We should all be very afraid.
where does france keep 300 nukes?
I'd like to see all of the worlds nukes launched..just get this over with already.. I mean jesus , do we really need 20,000 nukes to "win" anything?
;)
Forget the nukes. A city can come back from being nuked, at least in principle. France's real doomsday device is its 59 nuclear power stations/bomb factories.
A catastrophic meltdown of all France's nuclear power stations would render most of metropolitan France unfit for human habitation. The Soviet army only just managed to save the city of Kiev in the Battle of Chernobyl (not that the Little Russians were grateful, but that's another story). Multiply that by 60. That's what Hollande et cie. have in store for the army of the Russian Federation once they reach the Rhine.
That's the REAL Samson option... Threaten Rothschild's wine cellar!!
LOL. Never fear, the old man still has New Zealand!
All fooling aside though---the Samson Option is designed to destroy any enemies of the Jewish nation who succeed in destroying Israel. This is more a Jim Jones Option---mass murder/suicide by the elites. If they can't evade capture alive, they'll settle for ensuring as few slaves as possible are liberated alive.
Most of those sites are near France's borders. The French do love to share...
And fortunately wind never blows from west.
'do we really need 20,000 nukes to "win" anything?'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHWjlCaIrQo
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Strategy: Winner:
USSR First Strike NONE
US First Strike
NATO/Warsaw Pact
Far East Strategy
US USSR Escalation
USSR China Attack
India Pakistan War
Mediterranean War
Hong Kong Variant
Seato Decapitating
Cuban Provocation
Atlantic Heavy
Cuban Paramilitary
Nicarauga Preemptive
Pacific Territorial
Burmese Theatrewide
Argentina Escalation
Iceland Maximum
Arabian Theatrewide
U.S. Subversion
Australian Maneuver
Sudan Diversion
Sudan Surprise
NATO Territorial
Zaire Alliance
Icelandic Accident
English Retaliation
Middle East Heavy
Mexican Takeover
Chad Alert
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Turkish Heavy
NATO Incursion
US Defense
Cambodian Heavy
Pact Medium
Arctic Maximum
Taiwan Theatrewide
Pacific Maneuver
Portugal Revolution
Albanian Decoy
Palestinian Local
Moroccan Minimum
Iranian Diversion
Czech Option
French Alliance
Arabian Clandestine
Gabon Rebellion
Southern Median
Arabian Surrogate
Western Paramilitary
Seato Takeover
Hawaiian Escalation
Iranian Maneuver
NATO Containment
Swiss Incident
Cuban Minimal
Chad Deployment
Icelandic Escalation
Vietnamese Retaliation
Sytian Provocation
Libyan Local
Gabon Takeover
Romanian War
Middle East Offensive
Denmark Massive
Chile Confrontation
S. African Subversion
USSR Alert
Nicaraguan Thrust
Kenya Option
Pacific Defense
Uganda Maximum
Thai Subversion
Romanian Strike
Pakistan Sovereignty
Thai Variation
Northern Territorial
Polish Paramilitary
S. African Offensive
Panama Misdirection
Scandinavian Domestic
Jordan Preemptive
English Thrust
Burmese Maneuver
Spain Counter
Arabian Offensive
Chad Interdiction
Taiwan Misdirection
Nice; but Naive.
Russia is a natural partner of Europe. Its the fucking American government and the Eurocrats that want to drive a wedge between these 2 peoples.
Its just pathetic to see Europe piss its pants in fear of the Russians, while THEY AND THEIR STOOPID NATO forces have created an uterly failed state down south in Libya with jihadists and refugees threatening to invade Europe. Not to mention Syria.
Oh but the Russians! They are such a threat because NULAND said so.
What the fuck is wrong with these people? They are doing the bidding of Washington DC, not Europe.
Give it a few more years, so enough JIhadists silently invade Europe from Libya - "liberated" by NATO, and they will see the real threat is not from Russia. But we're dealing with stupid folks here so it may take a while for them to pick up on this.
All this is because europe is scared of the U.S., not Russia
Not scared, but bribed or blackmailed.
define Eurocrats. in my book, it's our national ministers. but I presume you mean their secretaries-at-the-EU, the commissioned officers like Juncker
take Juncker: with this talk of an EU Army, he is mightily taking the piss at the expense of the British... and the Americans, and the Russians
btw, do you think that if the Americans would vacate Europe, Juncker's Phantom Menace would be aggressive versus Russia?
so explain to me which Eurocrats want to drive a wedge between "these 2 peoples", and which 2 peoples you even mean
Eurocrats - the Council and the Commission, all commissioned officers.
I'm referring to the Russians and European people. Sanctions are just one example of attempts at driving a wedge.
Juncker should be focusing on security to the south of Europe, its a much greater threat to the European values he raves about. What, did they think LIbya is a job well done? The party is just getting started, ISIS are setting up a stronghold. All this happeneing but THE RUSSIANS ARE SURE SCARY!
the Council is the premier body of the EU. it is the only one that has the "auctoritas" of proposing anything
but your "all commissioned officers" lets me think that you don't understand who is the Council, or what it is
A hint: Tsipras, Cameron and Merkel, just to name three national politician you might know, are in the Council
Juncker has nothing to say about security. it's not in his portfolio, mandate or whatever
"Juncker has nothing to say about security. it's not in his portfolio, mandate or whatever"
We are all debating the possibility of a EU army after he advocated it.
He is using his political influence, which in his position, is very large.
The real Eurocrats are not the ones holding office, but the ones who put them there.
I appreciate your advocacy for friendship between European and Russian people. I think most of us have our own opinion about who is trying to drive a wedge.
Actually,
The US relationship with Europe is not what many seem to imagine.
It is not one where the US is the great hegemon, as many think.
In fact, the US are security employees of the Eurocrat banking class. This is why the Eurocrats meet annually in the so-called 'Bilderberg' conference to give the US employees their instructions.
The control of the US is exectued through Wall Street lobbying, and campaign contributions and has been for a century.
The normal people in the US have never been keen on being the Eurocrats' "World Police".
Those who think Russia, France and Germany are going to become allies and sing Kum-Baya together need to reexamine European History.
Nations have interests, not friends. There are Egos involved. And a smile is just a contortion of facial muscles.
Spot on!!!! We should be natural allies.. part of the reason . is jihad worldwide . on Russia's borders.. but that begs the question why did hte US NATO bomb the Balkans especially the CHristian areas and hand over entire swathes to the crazy drug running jihadist . the KLA .. we tipped our hand in the Balkans.. the IMF helped tear it apart with economic policies.. Russia was on the TO DO LIST for same treatment and still is.
"Russia is a natural partner of Europe."
This is the theme that I've also been stating for over a year: That this is ALL about preventing a Eur-Asian natural commercial alliance from evolving, into a kind of a SILKROAD 2.0.
A Silkroad, where commerce by land (rail and roads) is a natural and right as Rain & Shine, and where Russia is the link and third leg of the Europa-Russia-Asia trading platform. A Platform, where, the interplay of Resources, Technologies and People/Markets would result in the greatest economic boom in human history.
The Anglo-Zionists are crapping their pants that this would derail their psycho fantasies of a 1-world order under their thumb (NWO). There is nothing they can do to participate, and seek only to derail and destroy it at any cost. They will double-down perpetually, until they either win or are utterly rebuffed and marginalized into irrelevance.
The optimal/best way to achieve this, is to avoid a major war at all cost (where only the US is the post-WW2 style winner), and to keep building the SilkRoad. The USD will then be dethroned anyway, as more and more direct trade deals and currency swaps are made that bypass the USD.
So the Game of Provocation (that might lead to another False Flag, like Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin...) continues. As does the counter-game of Avoidance: Jiu-Jitsu style deflection & redirection of hostile forces.
“I support Juncker in building an EU army, if it means the termination of all EU member states’ armies and is controlled by the European Parliament,” tweeted Jan Philipp Albrecht, a German Green MEP.
Central planners never learn.
That should piss-off Obama's Victoria Nuke-land.
Vlad asked that loyal Zeroes Western Union him dollars ASAP.
As you Yanks are fond of saying, can you get off your arse and "Just Do It"?
Russia has actually been offloading dollars and getting more gold, but I see your attempt at being comedic.
EU is an American vassal due to infinite spying by the NSA and military bases all over Europe. But Russia is the threat to its freedom and its so-called democracy and freedoms.
Every act of NATO in recent memory has been a war crime - its destruction of Libya, support of the Nazis in Kiev, to its intervention in Afghanistan where heroin production is up 4000% and 1 million have died due to heroin. EU is now an ugly military power - a force for evil rather than good as it imagines itself to be. Fuck the war-mongering, evil EU which has become a force for evil and destruction under American tutelage.
Juncker just wants a goon squad that he can use to shakedown recalcitrant debtors like Greece. The imaginary "Russian aggression" is simply a convenient ruse.
I find Mr. Juncker to be odious, abhorrent, and insegrevious.
Not that I disagree with you but, Isn't that what the CIA/Pentagon are for??
insegrevious. Can not find it on dictionary.com
look other then...
Since when has an audit on Israel's nuclear inventory ever been done?
You sound like you are antisemitic.
So I guess that means that you have personally done an audit on their arsenal and can present us all with facts.
The FACT is [as the comment below states], is that Israel, despite almost 50 years of handwringing about other ME states, has never been part of the NNPT, and nobody knows how many nukes they possess [estimates are anywhere from 75 to 400]...
Since when has an audit on Israel's nuclear inventory ever been done?
About the same time we last audited Fort Knox.
What is your definition of Semite?
Israel has 100-200 nuclear weapons and is not a member of the NNPT.
Wth their dual citizen representatives controlling the global media and money, they effectively have above the law status for their mafia state.
that's not a very fun fact
http://www.businessinsider.in/Israels-Nuclear-Arsenal-Might-Be-Smaller-A...
they should just nuke themselves.......
That's not as far fetched as it sounds... After all, at this moment, a mosque is sitting on top of King Solomon's temple.
Never. Unofficially, everybody knows they're there and Israel makes little serious effort to hide them. Nuclear deterrents aren't effective if nobody knows about the nukes.
All you really need to know is that the Jews are done being the bankster-approved punching bag of mankind, and the next attempt at the destruction of the Jewish nation will the last.
And frankly, no sovereign nation needs to explain itself to any other, and the right of any sovereign nation to audit any other sovereign nations' nuclear inventory should not be recognized.
So I'm personally quite all right with Israel's telling UN nosey-parkers to drop dead. I just wish more civilized nations would do the same.
We Samson Option'd some folks....
probably never~