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US To Send Drones, Humvees To Ukraine, Boost Russia Sanctions As Moscow May "Deploy Nuclear Weapons In Crimea"
So much for the second Minsk ceasefire. A few hours ago, the US returned to its strategy of escalating Russian "costs" when it placed sanctions on eight Ukrainian separatists and a Russian bank, warning that recent attacks by rebels armed by Russia violated a European-brokered ceasefire in the war-torn country.
"If Russia continues to support destabilizing activity in Ukraine and violate the Minsk agreements and implementation plan, the already substantial costs it faces will continue to rise," Adam Szubin, the Treasury Department's acting undersecretary for terrorism and financial intelligence, said in a statement announcing the sanctions.
As Reuters adds, "the sanctions signal Washington is ratcheting up pressure on Moscow a day after accusing Russia of sending tanks and heavy military equipment into Ukraine, which a top U.S. official also said breached the Minsk accord agreed on Feb. 12." What was not said is that this also comes a day after the US sent over 100 tanks and armors to Russia neighbor Latvia in a move that would, from the Kremlin's perspective, signal further NATO arms build up on its borders.
Among the more prominent individuals sanctioned was Roman Lyagin, who chairs an election commission in separatist territory. The U.S. Treasury accused him of preventing voting in Ukraine's May presidential election.
Lyagin said he was not a fighter and was playing a peaceful role in the separatists' activities.
"It's the opposite, I do my best to stop the bloodshed," he said.
The full list of sanctioned individuals, as well the Russian National Commercial Bank, can be found here.
The Russian response to the latest sanction pending, but the response may have been hinted at earlier today when an official from Russia's Foreign Ministery said the nation has the right to deploy nuclear arms in the Black Sea peninsula of Crimea, however he added "he knew of no plans to do so."
"I don't know if there are nuclear weapons there now. I don't know about any plans, but in principle Russia can do it," said Mikhail Ulyanov, the head of the ministry's department on arms control, was quoted as saying by Interfax news agency.
And finally, indicating that the semi-hot escalation between the US and Russia is close to getting out of control, AP reported moments ago that Vice President Joe Biden told Ukraine's president Wednesday the U.S. will send more aid to the country, which U.S. officials said will include small drones and armored Humvees.
The White House said in a statement that Biden delivered the news in a call to Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, while expressing concern that Russian-backed separatists are violating cease-fire agreements in eastern Ukraine and keeping out international monitors.
U.S. officials, speaking on a condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to discuss the aid on the record, said the aid includes some small Raven drones systems, which can be launched by hand. The U.S. will also send 30 heavily armored Humvees and 200 other regular Humvees, as well as radios, counter-mortar radars and other equipment. All of the aid is nonlethal, and the drones are not armed.
AP adds that the drones and other equipment, not including the Humvees, are worth about $75 million. It's not clear how many drones would be sent or what the Humvees cost.
The good news: unlike US Humvees in Iraq, there are no ISIS soldiers in Ukraine who will "confiscate" this latest US taxpayer funded gift. At least not yet.
Finally, anyone curious why Joe Biden may have an extra special interest in preserving the Ukraine stats quo, here is a reminder:
R. Hunter Biden will be in charge of the Holdings’ legal unit and will provide support for the Company among international organizations. On his new appointment, he commented: “Burisma’s track record of innovations and industry leadership in the field of natural gas means that it can be a strong driver of a strong economy in Ukraine. As a new member of the Board, I believe that my assistance in consulting the Company on matters of transparency, corporate governance and responsibility, international expansion and other priorities will contribute to the economy and benefit the people of Ukraine.”
The Chairman of the Board of Directors of Burisma Holdings, Mr. Alan Apter, noted: “The company’s strategy is aimed at the strongest concentration of professional staff and the introduction of best corporate practices, and we’re delighted that Mr. Biden is joining us to help us achieve these goals.”
R. Hunter Biden is a counsel to Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP, a national law firm based in New York, USA, which served in cases including “Bush vs. Gore”, and “U.S. vs. Microsoft”. He is one of the co-founders and a managing partner of the investment advisory company Rosemont Seneca Partners, as well as chairman of the board of Rosemont Seneca Advisors. He is an Adjunct Professor at Georgetown University’s Masters Program in the School of Foreign Service.
Mr. Biden has experience in public service and foreign policy. He is a director for the U.S. Global Leadership Coalition, The Center for National Policy, and the Chairman’s Advisory Board for the National Democratic Institute. Having served as a Senior Vice President at MBNA bank, former U.S. President Bill Clinton appointed him an Executive Director of E-Commerce Policy Coordination under Secretary of Commerce William Daley. Mr. Biden served as Honorary Co-Chair of the 2008 Obama-Biden Inaugural Committee.
Mr. Biden is a member of the bar in the State of Connecticut, and the District of Columbia, the U.S. Supreme Court, and the Court of Federal Claims. He received a Bachelor’s degree from Georgetown University, and a J.D. from Yale Law School.
R. Hunter Biden is also a well-known public figure. He is chairman of the Board of the World Food Programme U.S.A., together with the world’s largest humanitarian organization, the United Nations World Food Programme. In this capacity he offers assistance to the poor in developing countries, fighting hunger and poverty, and helping to provide food and education to 300 million malnourished children around the world.
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Just watched again recently. Trying to get some pointers.
1. Don't live in Kansas.............................check
2. Don't live downwind of anything............pending
3. Don't go outside for minimum 3 years......check
4. Have insurance complete ICBM rider.........lpending
how else do you think they are going to "get out of" their medicare and social security obligations that they have no way of honoring ?
By printing and inflation. As we have seen for years now. Or did you not reallize dot gov has been spending a deficit for decades now?
Stop with the lies. Some of you pricks are worse than the MSM.
Threads, a 1984 BBC docudrama about nuclear war, is even more horrifying than The Day After.
I have never trusted anybody that uses an initial for their first name.
He's clearly hiding something.
Other than the cocaine addiction?
the sausage
Same humvees and drones ISIS has. Who gets Nobel Peace prized for this?
Wow, the US is working overtime to get out've debt.
Ha! I guess the SWIFT alternate really pissed Vicki Nuland off. Russia, if it has any sense at all, won't escalate. Alternately, if Russia and the Obama regime are working hand in hand (real possibility), then this is all theatrics, as Obama & Co. take down the FRN (ostensibly because it's somehow "colonial").
Good thing Biden is wearing the US Flag pin. I wasn't sure if he was one of the good guys or not.
Took the words right outta my head with the flag lapel. It's like - 'I gotta wear this thing so the idiocracy knows I support the troops & shit...
Does it have 50 or 57 stars? LOL....
Reading his fantasy crafted bio was cringe worthy. Such the humanitarian and public servant. Dont know the guy, but willing to bet the farm he and daddy have more than big chompers in common.
I wonder if WZ could do something with that mug shot
He might be pretty as a girl
just say'n
See Willam Defoe in drag in Boondock Saints...you'll get a good idea.
He looks like Willam Defoe's love child (which would be far more preferable than being Joe Biden's son).
Wasn't he the one that was booted from the Navy for snorting coke, or was that the other Biden son?
It's this guy.
Time to kill another black teen to keep the sheeple out of the reality.
Meh. Black teens kill other black teens daily. It's like a sport or something for that demographic.
yah, but that is not newsworthy
it's not racist
so it's ok
Ha. The OU fratenity thing is all over the news here, but not a mention about the black only college just a couple of towns over (or the Federal Equal Opportunity Employment quota system)---you tell me what's racist...
that would be Langston
used to be a riot a week, and never in the news..
That's why there is nothing around Langston but farmland (and the one gas station on 33). I feel a little sorry for Guthrie though.
that's a black only college? I thought it was a prison, demographics fit
In the meatime, those mean white kids from Oklahoma SAE are getting trashed everyhwere.
NWO / Rothschild / Rockefeller want a planet population of no more than a billion people.
A hot war with very bright flashes should get us at or well below that number...
"They" of course will be holed up in bunkers and other complexes set up for their survival.
Revelations talks about all of this. Im just hoping for a swift death when it happens.
So am i but for the other guy.
I'm not lucky enough for a quick death if everything goes tits up. That's why I prepare and train.
That bullshit makes no sense, so lets see I want less suckers to sell my goods (debt) to right I mean the best business strategy is to almost coompletely eliminate your source of income, yup maes perfect sense
And if things "get hot" where the fuck do you think those folks could live safely outside of being imprisioned underground?...yeah that sounds like great plan if I were the elite, yup that's what I would do
So what I got from this is that the US has already got drones and hummers in Ukraine (which we all knew already right? Weren't there a bunch of hummers captured in Deblatsevo) and Russia already has nukes in Crimea (which would have been the first thing I'd have done if I were the Russians... they were probably there before the Nazi coup).
>Weren't there a bunch of hummers captured in Deblatsevo
Yes... http://www.sott.net/article/292877-SOTT-Exclusive-Thanks-guys-NAF-acquir...
I now understand why it took so long for the Novoryssians to pull back their heavy artillery. They had to move all of the piece the Ukrainian military left behind as well.
I'm guessing this is a less productive expenditure than say relieving students of debts and restoring market forces, or maybe universal healthcare?
SOMEBODY! There must be some group that can overthrow these monsters before they get us all killed!
I have thought long and hard about this... An on-line bounty system. Sort of works like this. Target's photos goes up. You, and anyone else, want the person offed you contribute any amount of money via any number of online payment systems or credit cards. When the price is right, there is little doubt that the person in question will at least have an attempt made against their life.
Based on the amount of money collected, that amount goes to the assassin/killer or his designated beneficiaries.
Standard Disclaimer: Let's see how cheap life really is... <cue diabolical laughter>
A down vote? Seriously? People keep saying some of these assholes need to die, I am just offering up a system by which to make it happen.
Crowd funding works in other areas - why not here?
Nope. This shit will go on until some generals decide they've had enough. A few of them actually have honor, and realize their oath is to the constitution and not to some goat fucker who is bent on destroying it.
Some of them must realize their family and friends are losing their rights just like the rest of us. Eventually, things will get bad enough -- actual banana republic bad -- and we will have an arab "spring".
Usually it's the Colonels who lead the coups
Obunghole chilled the Arab Spring with his coup in Egypt. called in from Kerry while on vacation on his yacht in the Mediterranean
That's how oligarchs role
That group is called: "the American people',.
We're sunk then...
Sadly you're very right.
IT's over for the United States.
The Cookie Monster, Icky Vicky is set to be Sec'y of State in both the Clinton or Jeb cabinet.
So are these armed drones the US are sending to Ukraine, eg. Predators?
The old, dried-up, limp-dick, fat-assed, drooling Neocon fucks want to stir something up because they think it'll make 'em look like Stud Muffins at the 5PM Cocktail hour...Looking for a second young adulthood because the first one was such a wash?...
I dont think Sevastopol was nuke free in the last 60 years.
Or should the Black Sea fleet shuttle them in when needed, with 2 days delivery time?
The cold war stayed cold for forty years due to MAD (mutually assured destruction).
The US appears to have gone stark, staring mad.
The EU and Russia want peace in Ukraine.
It is the Ukrainian economy that is going down the pan, not the Russian economy.
Not according to lame stream media sources however...
But I always offer this up a rebuttal...
http://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/moscow?currency=USD
And this is Moscow, where prices are supposed high. I only wish that's how much it cost when I go shopping here in the U.S.
I didn't even read that list that closely... but all the way at the bottom...
1 package of Marlboro cigarettes$1.30
I think that is the case in a lot of places. The US government gets too involved in things and causes prices to get driven up.
it's cheeper to live just about anywhere other than US and EU...
Putin should deploy nuclear missiles in Cuba.
Almost as good: deploying them in Crimea or Kaliningrad. Always good for a lot of squawking in the European henhouse.
Putin is afraid of even selling missiles to Syria and Iran.
This nothing but hot air. Tactical nukes should have been deployed into Crimea already but Putin is too afraid to take action. The most Putin ever does is make announcements about what Russia "might" do some year in the future.
That worked out well lst time didnt it? Cruise Chef caved like the little girl he ws
"If Russia continues to support destabilizing activity in Ukraine..."
Give 'em credit for having really big BALLS of total hypocrisy, but at some point in the next year or so Russia will decide 'party's over'. Kiev will be occupied in hours. Then what, 'Murica? Duh?
Hunter Biden's resume sure is stacked for a cokehead....
Well, when you don't have to sleep, you can accomplish all sorts of stuff...especially when dad has all the connections.
The harsher the sanctions the better.
Vlad's already been reduced to table scrap care packages and Western Union gifts from loyal Zeroes.
Let's push this little Napoleon over the edge!
Russia has been buying gold, Hasbara fuckwit. Tell your bosses not to bother on Zero Hedge. Go back to MSNBC thread where there's still people stupid enough to buy the Jew line.
That just won't work. Crack down harder, and the Russian populace will just support Putin more (so will China). The US blew it's diplomatic wad with Vicki Nuland's BS earlier in the Ukraine. It's an adminstration of coddled children that were never told "no". This kind of bullshit happens when you surround yourself with yes men that only have academic backgrounds.
I sure hope we start seeing those selfies of military personnel with those signs that say:"We didn't sign up for this bullshit!!!"
Smedley Butler (actual) was right. The US populace has no bone to pick with Russia. The Russian populace has no bone to pick with the US. The Ukraine is in the EU backyard, not ours...no offense to the Ukranian population, but I'm not going to recommend military service to any young kid anymore.
The only adversarial force in the US today, is the US federal government (and proxy banks) against it's citizens. It's not the illegal aliens (ostensibly invited here by the Federal government to be future voters). It's not ISIS (at least not yet, but thank the Federal government for allowing all the muslim refugees here---just a matter of time now). Pretty much every single thing that is FUBAR when compared to 10, 20, 50 years ago is a direct result of the federal government (and banking policies). My state would be better off on it's own.
Fuck diplomacy...the Russian people got a little tst of what Putin really is with Boris, nd conecting tht to all the other "mtserious" deaths, from radiation spiked tea no less
So im thinking tht the Russian folks are being threaened in to supporting pootie, and given the opportunity they will run, not walk, to get way from that monster
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Funny. Best laugh this day.
How much does state dept pay you for each post? Or do you just get to sniff Marie Harf's panties?
Not to worry.
Barack Obama and John Kerry are on the case.
Oh, wait . . . .
Hey!! No lazer turrets or rail cannons??
The banksters always keep the goodies for themself huh, suppose those hummwees wherent good enough for ze yanks!
Can't wait for the Humvees to show up on Col. Cassad's war trophy site during the next Uki cauldron offensive.
Ukrainian "cyborgs" make the Italian army look like Gengis Khan's warriors.
part of a super secret CIA strategy to get the Russkies to capture all the Humvees then go bankrupt trying to keep them operating
I lol'd
Well, at least the Russkies have the oil to keep them running. Failing that, they make nice planters, part of a decorative shrubbery, put seedlings on the dashboard . . .
The more that the US does to try and demonize Putin the more backing he gets from the Russian people . The Us are now getting beyond a joke they are now sticking their noses where they don't belong.
www.fortruss.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/moscow-us-embassy-cables-on-wikileak...
And dont forget the 150 nations which are ´isolated´ with him.
I love it: Putin theatens to escalate the conflict to NUCLEAR, Obama responds with HumVees and the US is the provocateur?
Pooty Fanboiz are like flying monkeys - without the IQ.
got sand in your vagina again neocunt ?
Fly Max, FLY!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE_jGNB0WFw
Max, got Putin's dick in your ass?
How to create "credentials" out of thin air (daddy apparently couldn't save him from the blow rap) ...
From Wiki:
On May 2013, Biden was selected as a direct commission officer in the U.S. Naval Reserve, a program that allows civilians with no prior service to receive a limited duty officer's commission after attending a two-week class covering topics such as military history, etiquette, and drill and ceremony, in lieu of boot camp. Because Biden was past the cut-off age for the program he needed a waiver. Biden received a second waiver because of a past drug-related incident.[13][14][15][16] One month after commissioning, Biden tested positive for cocaine use and was discharged from the Navy reserve in February 2014.[17]
Funny how the Rebels pulled back their heavy weaponry while the Uki Junta did not. Who is violating Minsk II?
These ticky tack sanctions are a joke. Grow some hair on your balls Obunghole and sanction Russian oil/gas and cut them out of SWIFT. Now that's a sanction
Hunter Biden "pay for play". Oligarchs love oliigarchs.
Only an oligarch would thumb down my comment
Look the Britsh are sending their old crap there anyhow so what's a few more of the USA's old crap. The British say the Saxon ACP is "non-lethal" which is technically true but not really:
"The UK Ministry of Defense has confirmed that a private company delivered British Saxon armored vehicles to Ukraine. The equipment is out-of-service and is non-lethal.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150214/1018262696.html#ixzz3U61ArpDr
Ukraine bought 75 Saxons from a British company, reportedly paying $50,000 per vehicle — a move that raised the eyebrows of military experts. British general Sir Richard Dannatt, who served as UK's Chief of the General Staff between 2006 and 2009, called the vehicles "quite useless."
"Nevertheless the first 20 Saxons arrived in Ukraine last month. And on Tuesday, an accident involving two of the APCs on the way from Kiev to the town of Berezan in the Kiev region resulted in the death of a Ukrainian soldier.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20150311/1019320581.html#ixzz3U61Mwigl
"General Sir Richard Dannatt, former head of the British Army, criticises transfer of "useless" British armoured vehicles to Ukrainian forces.The former head of the British Army has condemned a decision to deliver dozens of redundant British military armoured vehicles to the Ukrainian government as “nothing short of immoral”.
He told The Telegraph: “I took these out of service by the UK Army in 2005/6 as completely unsuitable for current operations, so I find it incredible that they are being sold/gifted to Ukraine. I am incensed by the thought we are supplying, even via a 3rd party, SAXON APCs to the hapless Ukrainians.
“They are quite useless, semi-armoured lorries that should be nowhere near anyone’s front line."
"To suggest that the UK is making a significant gesture of support by supplying vehicles which we took out of service ten years ago, because we deemed them unsafe, seems bizarre at best and downright dangerous at worst."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/11412838/Sir-Ri...
The Saxons were aquired via a "third party" then sold on to Kiev and were also made available to others on the web. So there maybe no "ISIS" but there are "Ukrainians"... If you want one it can be arranged. By the way the separatists are having a good giggle right now "1 more down... and we didn't need to spend a single bullet"
(I can't find the article)
I'm guessing they get Saxons because all the spare F250's and 350's have been supplied to ISIS.
He told us he was going to fundamentally change America.
Rendering the the Country into a smoldering heap of radioactive debris through stupid belligerence is fundamental change but without any hope.
At least I'll be vaporized instantly by those 800 kiloton warheads and not have to suffer should it come to that. I can promise that where I live is targeted by multiple Russian warheads just to make double damn sure it gets smoked.
The thing that gets to me is arguing with dolts who think a nuclear exchange is survivable. Even escaping to the Southern Hemisphere is not going to protect you once nuclear winter sets in for 10 to 30 years plus the radionuclides are only delayed. There is no magic wall stopping all air and water exchange between the two hemispheres.
As for the elites who have the bunkers, enjoy living underground for the next ten generations. You'll be even more inbred than you already are.
800 kilotons? Russia has probably replaced each of their warheads with a Tsar Bomba. Hopefully anyway.
If there is nuclear war and my city is not vaporized...how long until riots start from empty gas stations and grocery stores? Will it be better to head north to Canada or south to Mexico? What about the 100 nuclear power plants across the US...will they meltdown? It might be better to be at ground zero when the thermonuke detonates.
Mexico might shoot anyone trying to cross the border coming from the US.
Karma
Riots 0 to 3 days max.
Assuming you will be able to make it to either place. The radionuclide poisoning and/or nuclear winter will get you eventually.
Yes, there will be meltdowns though some may be able to shutdown in time. These meltdowns probably will contribute more radiological contamination than the bombing itself as bombs do not contain nearly as much fissile material as plants. Lets be conservative and say 25 Fukushimas all in the CONUS.
Anyone who thinks that we have some magical missile shield is fooling themselves.
Has it ever been tested under real conditions? NO!
Are the Russians known to be stupid are smart? SMART!
The newer generation Russian ICBMs have been designed with our ABM defenses in mind. Russians excel at designing simple, elegant, reliable and effective solutions to problems.
Anyway down voter, enjoy living in a radioactive hell hole after I've been deposited as radioactive dust contaminating whatever food you can scrounge.
For the record, I pray this does not ever happen. It is not survivable, period.
EMP fucks the grid. Better have candles, batteries and at least 25 gallons of drinkable water
Guns and bullets. If Obama will sell them to you
UST led lantern, best rechargables and solar charger. Also bike, small wind or other charger..anything
better than candles. even oil lamp beats candles for stockpile...
Candles supply won't last long...works fair short term
25 gallon water is very short term...
self defense stockpile no good if you croak
When cops and nurses quit showing up you'refucked
72 hours
Your only hope is regional defense. Neighborhood watch.armed to the teeth
rent the movie "The Road"
Did I detect a little grey in R. Hunter's beard or is that a cocaine booger?
...look at those crazy eyes -- looks like he's ready to run for public office for his next career move.
Or make an Isuzu commercial.
It's important we keep sanctioning Russia, otherwise we'd lose our claim to "World's Most Imperialist Nation" and I'm not sure the Free Stuff Army could handle that right now.
USA Missiles piss the farthest
Russia Missiles piss the farthest
Humper Boyden is a chip off the old block, iddn't he?
Sooooo, the U.S. and Russia in a 'missile pissing contest', heh?
Deployment or not deployment that is the question
http://rt.com/politics/239669-crimea-nuclear-weapons-ministry/
That fucker's got the cocaine eyes!
The Ukrainian army is so incompetant these weapons will soon end up in rebel hands. Just like ISIS using ex american Iraqi weapons. So the American weapons manufacturers have finally figured out how to grow their market Supply both sides.
The only difference is that ISIS, IS, ISL or whatever you'd like to call them received the weapons directely from US government .
Hunter looks like he borrowed his dad's dentures for that photo.
opossum grin
Russia has always had its Black Sea Fleet based in Crimea, so has had nukes on ships for decades.
Hunter is just a boy, giving it all away; ukraine that is. I feel/know better now . . .
At the end of the Cold War Russia gave up and wanted to join the West which would have created a 360 degree zone of peace in the northern hemisphere of the earth. But the US expected and demanded its worldwide hegemony and would not integrate Russia into the West unless it was first raped and plundered.
The resurrection of the Cold War by the West, led by the US and its EU vassals, is a psychological regression. They are not complete without the external enemy. Their 'exceptional and indispensable' attitudes would collapse without the enemy other to constantly reinforce it.
The SCO and the BRICS are leaving the West behind to try to create an new world not based on totalitarian socialism or rapacious 'free market' crony capitalism, the only two poison pill gifts offered by the West.
The US led West will try to prevent or destroy the emergence of the world to come out of the East. The US led West has already caused by its policy the killing of 500,000 in Iraq in the 1990's, 1,000,000 in the 2000 to 2008 period in the Middle and East Asia, and another 1,000,000 since 2008. That's already at least 2,500,000 dead in their drive to US world empire. In Ukraine in only the last year at least 50,000 have already died at the hand of US policy.
Some are afraid that the US could lead the world into WW3. But if you look at the chaos that the US is causing it is obvious that WW3 has already started.
Unless we can find a way to heal the psychological sickness at the core of the West the march into another Cold War will continue. This Cold War v2 will be much hotter than v1 since there is no longer an operating Mutual Assured Destruction doctrine to temper the use of nuclear weapons.
The US led West will destroy the world before it will give up on its 'uber alles' attitudes. Unless the sickness at the core of the West is healed I fear that a terrible catastrophe will soon be upon us.
Hopefully, this never gets beyond a Cold War v2.0.
The thing that really scares me is that we've had 2 more generations of inbreeding occurring among the elite families that rule us than when Cold War v1.0 started.
Good point.
Its been 25 years since the collapse of the USSR but the return to Cold War attitudes in the West has been like putting on an old comfortable coat without noticing that it is dripping poison. It is a psychological regression that feels easy but is akin to putting your head into the mouth of a lion without noticing its teeth.
Of course. The Western usurpers inside C.O.G flat out can't operate without black-budgets which can't exist without external enemies to fight.
Need spice up the mid week, so let the caastrophy begin !
come on now
The US is no saint.
But neither is Russia.
Some how Russia has become a saint around here.
Talk about short term memory.
Does Russia have a thousand military bases around the world?
Did Russia by its foreign policy cause the death of 2.5 millions in the last fifteen years?
Did Russia subvert and overthrow dozens of governments around the world?
Is Russia supporting fascists and jihadis to advance its foreign policy?
Russia is not a saint, but it and even China are not by their actions as evil as the US.
Since 1990 the US has caused untold suffering for millions by bring chaos to multiple countries. What has Russia done in comparison to that?
If you would care to go back another 20 years they would have us beat 20-1
I would call that pretty evil
But perhaps you would like to ignore that like several others here.
Russian Federation was new country 20 years ago, risen from collapse of Soviet rule.
recovering from orchestrated explotations and looting by outsiders
and dealing with provocations in border regions
what is it you imagine Russian Federation doing to anyone else then?
We may as well bring in those evil Japanese and Germans too. Italy used to be fascist. How far back can we go?
Really, a new country?
Not what my Russian friends tell me.
Different name, same face.
cos weak troll have so many Russian friends....
15 Years of Putin:
http://ozziesaffa.blogspot.com/2014/06/15-years-of-putin-rule-in-one-infograph.html
Ozzie Saffa says it best. Love that blog.
The USSR was ruled by Georgians and Ukrainians. The USSR was not a Russian Empire. We should not demonize the Russian Federation before 1990 for anything since it didn't exist before then.
I can only laugh at the eastern Europeans that demonize Russia for what the USSR did while ruled by Georgians and Ukrainians while today the eastern Europeans are allied with Georgians and Ukrainians against the Russian Federation. Talk about cognitive dissonance!
So which of the British propaganda outlets do you work for? BBC? Telegraph?
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You conflate Soviet with Russian Federation
Soviet was never a Russian construct
talk about ignorance
so it's different Putin, Boris?
Putin not communist, only KGB.
VV Putin is lawyer, job was administrative, not operative, which disappoints your stray imaginations.
You know nothing about this subject.
Not every one here is ignorant of what is going on
save your bull crap for some one else
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aiB3Zuw9i0eo&refe...
Gellately's harsh judgment of Lenin comes at a good moment. At a time when Russian PresidentVladimir Putin is encouraging a revision of Soviet history that softens Stalin's image, Western historians should abandon their sentimentality about Lenin. It's time to tell the truth. Though Gellately isn't the first to do so, his book offers fresh evidence of Lenin's disastrous legacy.
bloomberg is terrible elitist opinion/propaganda rag
they insist to send their stuff to my offices freepay, then call wanting subscribe,
which we ignore...bloomberg business only one in a several articles has any substance of business.
Always is Russia is always wrong, must make Russia look bad..
bloomberg is a control nut, wants take rights away
otherwise that cut and paste is way off topic
and bored
recommend for you Masha Gessen for trash about Putin..ugly no tittes suka... more lies you can repeat
I expect ZH consider cut and paste bloomberg to be exercise of ignorance.
Clearly a major, spring-summer offensive is going to be launched fairly soon. Lots of ignorant ukies will die for reasons they will never know. I’m hoping that the anti-Zio-Nazi resistance is ready to expand their borders all the way to Poland.
End oF March Pol Pot Shenko launches Offensive 3
Now he can lose Mariupol and Kharkov
I do not see it as a good idea to go against nuclear weapons with a HUMVEE, but give it a try:
...US To Send Drones, Humvees To Ukraine, Boost Russia Sanctions As Moscow May "Deploy Nuclear Weapons In Crimea"
Gee, I guess Russia is the only country that could deploy nukes in Ukraine right? I mean the US does not hav that capability...fuck you Russia, 2 can play that game.
Just like your predecessor during the cuban missle crisis if push comes to shove your pansies will blink like you always do
You are ignorant concerning turkey/cuba missle crisis.
Search it.
Kruschev was actually the level headed, JFK less and Bobby wanted war
I'd say dangerous, really.
Both countries need to start a dialogue and squash this. We need a red phone again. This is not the US business and the EU should take the lead in negotiation. People like Nuland and the other Neocons only want war. It's telling when she states that she is talking TO the Russians. Do as we tell you....great strategy. Nuclear exchange or Balkanization are the options. Not great choices cuz Russia will not Balkanize.
Of be course comrade Biden has no conflicting of interest...
Smells like Kentucky Fried Chicken ........
Not to grow powerful controlling fear as Spring Flowers come, but may it be hoped that after possible moar war profiteering and population elimination games of the evil satanic/luciferic/bankster empire of dust is done for what ever the mass mind decides it to be, one can pray that there are a few folks left around that remember what peace was, and know how the horrible wars all began AGAIN with moar lies, and Evil deceptions. Cycles. How to learn, or not from them? May there be a few peacemakers left, to do the final job.
People of power that allow this evil war mongering and distractionary horsepiss away from their own crimes to manifest in moar woar so the war-profiteers can gain temporarily, will suffer first. Everybody knows WHO and WHY wars are started. NO ONE wants to be your patsies any moar!
Oh and hey, a ten cent reward for the first drone to be hacked. Talk about a pissin match for testing men and equipment..lol...
Shalom!!!
"august 17, 1998 turned out to be a memorable day for two totally unrelated events. first, russia devalued its ruble and defaulted on its foreign debt; then, in a speech before the nation, bill clinton devalued his credibility by admitting his romantic affair (*the ole honey pot trap?) with former intern monica lewinsky. russia's debacle routed the global bond market, clinton's led to his impeachment by year's end. both episodes, for different reasons, caused temporary declines in american share markets, but the impact of the russian carnage was swift and decisive, with long tentacles.
when russia defaulted on its bonds, global bond markets virtually became comatose. bond-trading in risky ventures especially ground to a halt. highly leveraged investors and institutions that had borrowed funds at low interest rates and then purchased high-yield but risky assetts faced traumatic market conditions. they scrambled to, unload their risky bonds, but could find no takers. as a result, their bond portfolios verged on collapse.
one of the riskiest ventures went the name of 'long term capital management' (LTCM) { http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-Term_Capital_Management }. . it had borrowed almost $100 billion from banks and investment companies such as gs, ml, on an equity base of just $3.5 billion. it was more than 95% leveraged. cont. below?
why? losing too many long comments lately on ZH?!?
Fuck all these fuckers. They can send their own damn kids to fight the wars. Fucking traitors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wnyi21tFZOc prescient
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfRY3SsozuM
Welcome to the NWO Ukraine. You are about to Hiroshima on us.
cont. "its officers included the likes of former fed. vice-chaiman david mullins and two nobel laureates in economics, known, of all things, for risk management. its influential executives enabled it to obtain all those loans.
with that borrowed money 'ltcm' was heavily invested in short- and long-term bonds as well as stock options. it was a hedge fund; that is, it played on both sides of investments in a market. it sometimes made simultaneous bets on an asset's upside as well as downside potential. it would buy put options and sell call options at the same time. in other words, it was a highly risky fund. with that $100 billion of borrowed money , it had placed option bets on as much as $1.25 trillion of treasury bonds.
following the russian default, the hedge fund suffered heavy losses that wiped out its equity overnight-- almost $4 billion. it was left with no money to service its own debt, which meant that it would have to unload its portfolio in bond markets at further losses, causing another round of falling bond prices. ltcm was about to go down, along with many of its lenders, and possibly the u.s. financial system. $1.25 trillion is no pocket change after all.
the fortunes of as many as 16 banks and wall street firms were directly tied to ltcm. either someone had to buy the hedge fund or lend it money. in other words, the fund, like many indebted countries, needed a bailout. but who would want to throw good money after bad? that is where greenspan and the federal reserve came in. with his consent, the n.y. branch of the fed arranged a $3.6 billion bailout of LTCM, coaxing its creditors to put up cash. the lenders had no choice-- who was going to defy the FED?
on october 1, 1998, greenspan defended the fed action before the House Banking Committee"
end quote by Ravi Batra c.2005 "Greenspan's FRAUD" pgs. 133-34
Now why on this post would i mention debt when were talking war? America is so much indebted to the frb that they'll take us to war. the congress doesn't care, nor the scotus,... and certainly every president has been complicit since 1913?!?
jmo
Sigh. Cutting out all the bullshit, this means that nuclear capable (engine / warhead) submarines are using the docks in Crimea.
Which, you know, was already part and parcel of the treaties signed by the Ukraine and Russia. It's actually... well... the reason for all of this nonsense. Russia will not, and cannot lose said access.
>This is just bullshit, reminding the State department of the reason why there are 5 subs in the zone at this point. It's a response to the various French vessels (sorry, NATO) and so on playing around.
This is almost as pathetic as the Cuban missile crisis and Turkey hosting missiles (Kennedy: "we'll take out the old ones, tee-hee cause the new ones are better")
Srsly. Grow the fuck up. The USA at the moment is acting like a child who needs a spank.
Thought experiment: take one of the seven, and deny their access to a major refueling port. It's called a Blue-Water Navy for a reason. Russia doesn't have it, and you're stomping over their little regional piece while China is devestating coral reef islands in the Pacific to make sure they are?
Fuck off you pathetic dinosaurs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/special/2014/newsspec_8701/index.html
http://foreignpolicyblogs.com/2014/06/23/why-is-china-building-artificia...
No, actually it is worse than the Cuban missile crisis.
Certainly Russia has a right to be angry.
Though communists are still assisting in myring things up.
They are by no means innocent.
Now don't go saying China and Russia have abandoned communism, cause that is a lie.
They also desire to rid the world of imperialism [capitalism]
Crazy situation.
useless talkings
if worse than turkey/cuba brink, would not be here....
there was even agreement Soviet would not release facts to media for US face saving..
while you were told it all other side fault and last to learn how deceived.
otherwise, I am not fan of Kruschev
i remember my Republican grandfather saying that
I've seen how this 80s-remake ends. Watch the British movie 'Threads' for a refresher.