The 9/11 Commissioners Were Conspiracy Theorists

9/11 Commissioners Admit They Never Got the Full Story

The 9/11 Commissioners publicly expressed anger at cover ups and obstructions of justice by the government into a real 9/11 investigation:

• 9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says “I don’t believe for a minute we got everything right”, that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, and that the 9/11 debate should continue

• The 9/11 Commission chair said the Commission was “set up to fail”

• The Commission’s co-chairs said that the CIA (and likely the White House) “obstructed our investigation”

• 9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that “There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn’t have access . . . .”

• 9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said “We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting”

• 9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: “It is a national scandal”; “This investigation is now compromised”; and “One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up”.  When asked in 2009 if he thought there should be another 9/11 commission, Cleland responded: “There should be about fifteen 9/11 commissions”

• The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) – who led the 9/11 staff’s inquiry – said “At some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened“. He also said “I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years…. This is not spin. This is not true.”

No wonder the Co-Chair of the congressional investigation into 9/11 – Bob Graham – and 9/11 Commissioner and former Senator Bob Kerrey are calling for either a “PERMANENT 9/11 commission” or a new 9/11 investigation to get to the bottom of it.

Some examples of obstruction of justice into the 9/11 investigation include:

• An FBI informant hosted and rented a room to two hijackers in 2000. Specifically, investigators for the Congressional Joint Inquiry discovered that an FBI informant had hosted and even rented a room to two hijackers in 2000 and that, when the Inquiry sought to interview the informant, the FBI refused outright, and then hid him in an unknown location, and that a high-level FBI official stated these blocking maneuvers were undertaken under orders from the White House. As the New York Times notes:

Senator Bob Graham, the Florida Democrat who is a former chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, accused the White House on Tuesday of covering up evidence ….The accusation stems from the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s refusal to allow investigators for a Congressional inquiry and the independent Sept. 11 commission to interview an informant, Abdussattar Shaikh, who had been the landlord in San Diego of two Sept. 11 hijackers.

• The chairs of both the 9/11 Commission and the Official Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 said that Soviet-style government “minders” obstructed the investigation into 9/11 by intimidating witnesses (and see this)

• The 9/11 Commissioners concluded that officials from the Pentagon lied to the Commission, and considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements

• The tape of interviews of air traffic controllers on-duty on 9/11 was intentionally destroyed by crushing the cassette by hand, cutting the tape into little pieces, and then dropping the pieces in different trash cans around the building as shown by this NY Times article (summary version is free; full version is pay-per-view) and by this article from the Chicago Sun-Times

• As reported by ACLU, FireDogLake, RawStory and many others, declassified documents shows that Senior Bush administration officials sternly cautioned the 9/11 Commission against probing too deeply into the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001

Both the 9/11 Commission Investigation and 9/11 Trials Were Based on Unreliable Evidence Produced by Torture

The CIA videotaped the interrogation of 9/11 suspects, falsely told the 9/11 Commission that there were no videotapes or other records of the interrogations, and then illegally destroyed all of the tapes and transcripts of the interrogations.

9/11 Commission co-chairs Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton wrote:

Those who knew about those videotapes — and did not tell us about them — obstructed our investigation.

The chief lawyer for Guantanamo litigation – Vijay Padmanabhan – said that torture of 9/11 suspects was widespread.

And Susan J. Crawford – the senior Pentagon official overseeing the military commissions at Guantánamo told Bob Woodward:

We tortured Qahtani. His treatment met the legal definition of torture.

Indeed, some of the main sources of information were tortured right up to the point of death.

Moreover, the type of torture used by the U.S. on the Guantanamo suspects is of a special type. Senator Levin revealed that the the U.S. used Communist torture techniques specifically aimed at creating false confessions. (and see this, this, this and this).

And according to NBC News:

• Much of the 9/11 Commission Report was based upon the testimony of people who were tortured

• At least four of the people whose interrogation figured in the 9/11 Commission Report have claimed that they told interrogators information as a way to stop being “tortured”

• One of the Commission’s main sources of information was tortured until he agreed to sign a confession that he was NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO READ

• The 9/11 Commission itself doubted the accuracy of the torture confessions, and yet kept their doubts to themselves

The 9/11 Commissioners doubted the information from the government ... they were obviously just tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists.

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[Clashfan]

George--declassified documents show--not shows  YW ;)

[bobjamaica]

Too bad Ricktards thinks knowing the truth is a disservice to those who died that day.  

[Flybyknight]

Face it America Your government are a pack of lying cunts and you are living under a fascist regime. Good luck with changing that. Capitalism rules Yeah! Socialism Sucks!.... Fuck'n wankers open your eyes life is not that simple

[Grouchy Marx]

It was the frog's idea.

[SweetDoug]

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Dr. Judy Wood. Directed energy beam took the towers down. Sounds bat-chit crazy, but she offers compelling evidence. I'm sold.

At least, if you watch, you'll be wondering a whole lot more about what the hell happened.

First thing I thought of when I saw it day, "Where'd the towers go? Where's the rubble?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML8CJp9Ha14   View the 720p version to see all the detail in the photos she presents.

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[celticgold]

we demolished some buildings....

[ozziindaus]

Best 911 doco EVER. It's long but concise and answers many questions

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M&autoplay=1

[dexter_morgan]

Why are these fuckers waiting until now to raise these questions? When you were on the committee's would be the time to make sure your questions were answered. If you knew stuff then, should have told the nation about it. Name names, wasn't it important enough to do that?

Or is it one of these deals?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ussliberty.html

Even the president at the time was not satisfied, but nothing ever came of it.

[Reaper]

9/11 was a conspiracy by the hijackers and their enablers in the final government approved theory. The commissioners were commissioned by the the government. Thus the commission was a preplanned act by the government to produce a result, aka as conspiracy.

The long established government Modus operandi to determine facts:
Old example: Confessions were the convincing evidence in Stalin's show trials. http://www.trotsky.net/trotsky_year/moscow_trials.html
Older example: Confessions were the convincing evidence in the Spanish Inquisition. http://www.npr.org/2012/01/23/145512271/the-inquisition-a-model-for-mode...
Present example: "Ninety-seven percent of federal criminal prosecutions are resolved by plea bargain."(confessions) http://www.thecrimereport.org/viewpoints/2014-01-how-plea-bargains-are-m...

What's unchanged is that the sheeple still trust their government masters and their proffered confessions.

[DaveyJones]

So true. Just compare the money spent on the 911 commission to the money spent on the investigation of Clinton's affair and you begin to see the picture....

[ChacoFunFact]

I think the second greatest crime regarding 9/11 was and is to this day the utter failure of our mass media to report the truth.  Ha.  Just shameful and our mass media deserves to be watched by no one ever again.  

[dexter_morgan]

LOL - our media. They quit reporting truth decades ago - now they are just ZWO propaganda machines.

[TheBigComic]

The social networks of the elite have connected and the connections have strengthend. The rulers now have more in common with each other than those they rule. The rulers now have to work to construct a narrative for the people as they focus the peoples' efforts in the construction of the new world order for the elite. Neo feudalism on a global scale,... with no return due to power of technology. This simple thought explains all of history for the last 100 years. The 100 years before that was the struggle that the people eventualy lost. The 30-40 years before that was open warfare and revolution, a true break if there ever was one. While the people have never before had more power to over throw the elite and create their own new world order, at the same time they have never before been under the weight of so much control and manipulation. A bifurcation point is coming, and it will go exponential in both ways. There are no safe places anymore.

[SmittyinLA]

9/11 Commission recommendations-Completely disregarded!

1. The United States should combine terrorist travel intelligence, operations, and law enforcement in a strategy to intercept terrorists, find terrorist travel facilitators, and constrain terrorist mobility. (385)
2. The U.S. border security system should be integrated into a larger network of screening points that includes our transportation system and access to vital facilities, such as nuclear reactors. The President should direct the Department of Homeland Security to lead the effort to design a comprehensive screening system, addressing common problems and setting common standards with systemwide goals in mind. (387)
3. The Department of Homeland Security, properly supported by the Congress, should complete, as quickly as possible, a biometric entry-exit screening system, including a single system for speeding qualified travelers. It should be integrated with the system that provides benefits to foreigners seeking to stay in the United States. (389)
4. We should do more to exchange terrorist information with trusted allies, and raise U.S. and global border security standards for travel and border crossing over the medium and long term through extensive inter-national cooperation. (390)
5. Secure identification should begin in the United States. The federal government should set standards for the issuance of birth certificates and sources of identification, such as drivers licenses. (390)

[ozziindaus]

Maybe because the gov knows there's no problem with terrorism that it doesn't already "know about". Same goes for revising building standards to prevent buildings from collapsing after, ahem, office fires on a few floors.

[Monty Burns]

Look, it's perfectly simple. Just ask this guy.

Or this guy. http://www.whale.to/c/obama_appoints.html

[dexter_morgan]

Good links Monty. Funny how these ZWO operatives keep finding jobs in ALL administrations.

[Comte d'herblay]

There are approximately 7 billion Live human beans on the planet.

And yet, I am convinced, more and moar, with each passing visit to this blog, that with all the power we awesome numbers supposedly have, to change things for the better, for our own benefit, that the Dead, a single dead human bean, has more power than all of us combined.

[Monty Burns]

Sadly, I feel the same. Even when there's overwhelming evidence of conspiracy (forming the FRB, Pearl Harbor, Gulf of Tonkin, Iran/Contra, Iraq WMD) often to justify major wars, the public at large just snoozes away.

[Hannibal]

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes. Thu, 03/12/2015 - 17:46 | 5883178 new The Duke of Skiatook
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My dog's got no nose!  How does he smell?  Awful!  

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Thu, 03/12/2015 - 17:46 | 5883176 new Oswald did it
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We tried to exclude some folks

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Vladimir is having a well deserved rest, charging up his batteries...

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Putinator & Dragonator for the win !

USA comes in distant third becasue they are the Turd in the Planet's Punch Bowl right now & too arrogant & hubris to relaize their leaking bile.

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The same people who want to isolate Putin cry when they don't see him.  

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I find it interesting that a Judge...in New York City no less...refuses to let Citigroup loan to Argentina.

How else is the country suppose to pay the already exorbitant interest on the exorbitant debt?

One day New York City is going to find out what that means.  "Sorry, no credit for your financial system.". Those clowns wouldn't even exist were it not for the American taxpayer.

Indeed...destroying said taxpayer (aka Whitney Tilson) seems to be their specialty.  I mean who wants to publicly short a retailer let alone sue them?

These businesses employ tens of thousands, pay property taxes and to my knowledge do not knowingly engage in harmful behavior...unlike say...CBS.

Maybe its time someone started suing the media now that we know what side of the recovery they are on...

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Bodies Of US Soldiers Killed In Ukraine Float Ashore In Florida

A curious insert placed into today’s Ministry of Defense (MoD) report for President Putin states that the bodies of a number of US Marines killed during last months Battle of Debaltseve have begun “mysteriously” appearing upon a Gulf of Mexico beach in Florida.

According to this report, the MoD reported last month that the Obama regime had “effectively abandoned” at least 150 US troops embedded with over 5,000 Ukrainian forces in the rebel surrounded town of Debaltseve in eastern Ukraine from which thousands of shell-shocked Ukrainian soldiers managed to escape, and who later described their terrifying retreat from that apocalyptic rail town while being shot at point blank range.

Of the hundreds of bodies found in the aftermath of this horrific battle by rebel forces, this report continues, Russian intelligence sources identified at least 13 of them as being “probable” US Marines based upon “unique body identifiers” [i.e. tattoos], military equipment used, and “electronic database identification knowledge” of US Special Forces personnel.

The bodies of these US Marines were then turned over by the rebel forces to Ukrainian authorities (who claimed them as their own) on 18 February after which, Russian intelligence sources in this report state, these remains were repatriated to the United States.

Important to note about these dead American Marines, this report says, are that they were all “probable” members of the US Marine Corps Forces Special Operations Command (MARSOC) operating out of Romania as part of the Black Sea Rotational Force (BSRF) who, since this past summer, have been training Ukrainian forces.

Most “mysteriously”, however, the MoD says in this report, are that once the bodies of these US Marines left Ukraine a few weeks ago nothing was reported on them, until this week that is when at least 7 of these exact same soldiers bodies were reported to be washing up on the shores of Florida, and as we can, in part, read as reported by American media sources:

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1845.htm

edit: as of yet I have not been able to "verify", this claim,.. as always you decide!

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[SmedleyButlersGhost]

Until you offers me modicum of proof - you're embarrassing yourself

[usednabused]

Id say thats plausible. Who's to say the so called helicopter c rash in Florida with 10 dead wasn't the militaries way of laundering the deaths to make it appear as they were never in a foreign land? Just speculation, but it would fit.

[alexcojones]

Yeah Commissioners have doubts. Fuck You Traitors All.

Confessions Of A 911 Hitman

[optimator]

A goup of statisticians made a study of all the coincidences on 9-11 and found the odds of it happening the way it did "Infintesimal:,

[Bastiat]

Like the odds for the exit poll variance to the results in Ohio in GW's 2nd "election."

[Clashfan]

or Max Cleland's re-election, the first time Diebold machines were used

[bitterwolf]

JFK/RFK   9/11.......so what....most folks smell a rat....so what...nobody gonna do shit about it....man....THAT is power incarnate.

[mvsjcl]

That is evil incarnate.

[nhsadika]

duplicate

[whoflungdung]

9/11: Dutch Demolition Expert Danny Jowenko Dies In “Car Crash”

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/23/dutch-demolition-expert-danny-jo...

WTC7 according to Danny Jowenko was absolutely brought down by a controlled demolition.

And then he died in a mysterious car accident, on a sunday morning going to church !

[nhsadika]

This event is the epicenter of the entire terror industry - constant threat from a few patsies, crazies, and yes even some real angry disenfranchised muslims has resulted in unknown billions in security and surveillance spending and trillions in wars waged abroad.  The national purse is bankrupted because of the downstream events of 9/11.   Many have used it to justify their motives and cordone off opposition.

We cannot be reminded often enough about the need for the real story to be revealed.   Outside of disrupting the powers of the banking industry and  the financial criminals that reside there.... It is the most important thing that can be done...  

[besnook]

what i find interesting about bob graham is that he resigned his office(didn't run for reelection in a set for life district and never aspired to a sure governor seat afterwards). graham was a really well respected across the aisle type south florida politician in a political environment known for all sorts of crap.

i think he realized he was set up by shrub and pullurcheney(like powell) to provide veracity and integrity and honor to their criminal enterprise. he has quietly pushed for the declassification of the infamous 28 pages concerning foreign involvement in 9/11 that .gov wants you to believe is saudi arabia.

[Herdee]

Building 7 housed the CIA before the collapse.

http://rememberbuilding7.org/7-facts-about-building-7/

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-mysterious-collapse-of-wtc-seven/15201

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7Rm6ZFROmc

Controlled demolition.Just like the other two taller buildings.

[Ruffmuff]

Bullshit. All conrete turns to dust when you piss on it. Sarc off.

I guess the soul of hitler lives to bullshit mankind til we destroy each other.

[Westcoastliberal]

The PNAC report called for a "new Pearl Harbor" to get the U.S. sheeple to go along with their plans for the middle East.  That's the order 911 filled to the max.  The events of 911 were horrible, but just as horrible is the aftermath...millions dead, trillions squandered, and establishment of an entirely new bureacracy (Department of Homeland Security) that's much worse than the Stasi. Leading up to 911 Cheney & Rumsfeld worked tirelessly from the Ford admin onward to establish COG "Continuation of Government" plans that are still in place today.  That's why Obama and the Capitol Hill gang seem like such a caricature.  They're not the ones running things; it's Cheney and his neo-con buddies running the show from Raven Rock "Site R" and other deeply bunkered facilities (underground Denver airport?).

Bottom line?  911 didn't just "happen" and it wasn't just the "hijackers" (who couldn't even fly a single engine Cessna) at play; it was a deeply secret Nazi (Homeland?) cabal that is STILL IN POWER TODAY! Don't believe me?  Look up who Victoria Nuland is married to (hint: he co-founded PNAC).

[Monty Burns]

Correct on all counts.

[taketheredpill]

Continue to believe that a lot of the post-911 Conspiracy sites were funded by US Government for Psyops purposes.  This helped to muddy thwe waters and both taint legitimate query as looney as well as distract from one obvious conclusion (that the Government either knew or was ecpecting "something" and planned on using that as a pretext for all that followed).

So basically my Conspiracy Theory is that a lot of Conspiracy Theories are a Conspiracy....

[Monty Burns]

Without a doubt. Just watch how they try to ridicule Truthers by quoting some of the most outrageous theories.

[Vendetta]

the most outrageous theories were provided by the liars themselves, then those theories were ridiculed by the presstitutes.

[harposox]

Heh. That's preciesly why good misinformation is so effective — a small portion of it is usually true, to some degree or another.

[gabeh73]

agreed...only thing for sure is they lie a lot and don't worry too much about killing innocent people.

[optimator]

No big deal, we lost about the same amount of people we lost at Pearl Harbor and there are still folks around that don't knoiw FDR and Churchill engineered it.  There are lots of folks around that don't know whe FDR, Churchill, or Pearl Harbor was.  Even some of us here found out lately how Churchill engeered the Lusitainia sinking to get us into WWI.

[Bastiat]

The US is poisoned by the official lies- a daily face full of treason,  Mass murder and crimes against humanity.

[RealityColin]

Key article.

If you've never seen it, check out the Italian documentary "Zero" -- easily found online.

[ChacoFunFact]

Check out architects and engineers for truth.  Building 7, anyone?

[roadhazard]

I can't believe with all the tin foil hat bloggers who know everything the commissioners are still clueless. Somebody is full of shit.

[Chief KnocAHoma]

So who did it? Mossad, Silverstein, CIA, Bin Laden?

There are odd factors. WT7 collapsing is onew, but Bin Laden claimed credit. Al Qaeda is a real boogey man out to harm the US, the West, Christains, Jews and basically anyone that is not moslem. ISIS is real and tearing across Iraq and Syria  leaving a trail of heads. 

Now did we quite possibly know what was going down in advance? Probably... much like we knew Pearl Harbour was in the cross hairs. But we didn't know exactly where and when.

I vividly remember the summer months leading up to 911. There was chatter... lots of it. I also remember a suspicious murder of a girl named Chandra Levy who was having an affair with Congressman Gary Condit who sat on the intelligence committee.

In that investigation we learned Chandra made plans to travel to the west coast BY TRAIN. She never did this before, and she left her aunt a cryptic message about something huge she had to tell her about air travel.

Did Condit pillow talk? Who was listening to Chandra's phone calls? We now know the NSA has big ears. Did we possibly know the maner in which we were going to be attacked? I believe yes. Did we have anything more specific? Who knows, but the public story is not 100% accurate.

[mvsjcl]

Jerk.

[SmedleyButlersGhost]

Please support the assertion that OBL "took credit " for anything to do with 9/11. He did say in a tape that might or might not have been him cheer it on. Did the U.S. ever accuse OBL of participating or was it US accusing AL Quieda and then OBL is Al Quieda. It's all bullshit - there was no Al Quieda before the U.S. invented them - ditto IS.

BTW - Saudi Arabia out numbers IS in beheadings 10 /1. All 9/11 hijackers had Saudi passports. And by the way - this was organized by a bunch of guys in caves in Afghanistan while the U.S. has the most invasive surveillance ever known. WTF

[TheReplacement]

Isn't it dishonest to turn the discussion and make OBL a salient point instead of remaining focused on the people on this continent and the 28 pages of hidden wisdom?