Is It Time To Prepare For War?

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Submitted by Chris Martenson via PeakProsperity.com,

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From my perspective, the made-for-public Western news copy regarding Ukraine and Russia is childishly slanted and one-sided. The level of so-called aggression by Russia cannot even remotely be compared to the United States' naked aggression against Iraq – a country that had not attacked the US, threatened the US, or had any WMD program (which even if it did, would still have not constituted a legitimate reason for invasion by another nation under existing international law.)

So there’s a heavy dose of “Do as we say, not as we do” when it comes to US pronouncements of ‘unacceptable aggression’ on the part of Russia. Predictably, Russia is less than pleased -- as in the way they would be if routinely lectured in the press by Captain Hazelwood on the importance of boating safety.

Despite Western claims, it is highly unlikely Russia has yet moved heavy equipment and troop concentrations across the Ukraine border  -- because if they had, you’d for sure  have seen pictures.  Endless pictures of those troops and equipment on TV, morning, noon and night.  You haven’t seen any pictures, so none likely exist, which means no Russian army troops or military armaments are yet in Ukraine.

But that has not stopped the US and NATO from accusing Russia of exactly those transgressions in nearly every single announcement and press release.

The latest hawkish salvo by General Breedlove was so over-the-top that Germany expressed public alarm:

Breedlove's Bellicosity: Berlin Alarmed by Aggressive NATO Stance on Ukraine

Mar 6, 2015

 

It was quiet in eastern Ukraine last Wednesday. Indeed, it was another quiet day in an extended stretch of relative calm. The battles between the Ukrainian army and the pro-Russian separatists had largely stopped and heavy weaponry was being withdrawn. The Minsk cease-fire wasn't holding perfectly, but it was holding.

 

On that same day, General Philip Breedlove, the top NATO commander in Europe, stepped before the press in Washington. Putin, the 59-year-old said, had once again "upped the ante" in eastern Ukraine -- with "well over a thousand combat vehicles, Russian combat forces, some of their most sophisticated air defense, battalions of artillery" having been sent to the Donbass.

 

"What is clear," Breedlove said, "is that right now, it is not getting better. It is getting worse every day."

 

German leaders in Berlin were stunned. They didn't understand what Breedlove was talking about. And it wasn't the first time. Once again, the German government, supported by intelligence gathered by the Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND), Germany's foreign intelligence agency, did not share the view of NATO's Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR).

 

The pattern has become a familiar one. For months, Breedlove has been commenting on Russian activities in eastern Ukraine, speaking of troop advances on the border, the amassing of munitions and alleged columns of Russian tanks. Over and over again, Breedlove's numbers have been significantly higher than those in the possession of America's NATO allies in Europe. As such, he is playing directly into the hands of the hardliners in the US Congress and in NATO.

 

The German government is alarmed. Are the Americans trying to thwart European efforts at mediation led by Chancellor Angela Merkel? Sources in the Chancellery have referred to Breedlove's comments as "dangerous propaganda." Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier even found it necessary recently to bring up Breedlove's comments with NATO General Secretary Jens Stoltenberg.

(Source)

Think about how truly and utterly bizarre this all is.  It is literally not possible to hide “well over a thousand” combat vehicles from air and satellite surveillance, and everybody who knows anything at all knows this.  How can Breedlove make such outlandish claims and expect anybody to think he’s anything other than daft?

What are reasonable intelligence analysts and diplomats in Germany, or anywhere for that matter, to make of any of this? 

One uncomfortable pattern that fits is that the US has gotten used to lying overtly to get its way.  All reasonable analysts who read the UNSCOM report on Iraq’s defunct WMD program back in 2002 (as I did) knew that Iraq did not have any such program as claimed by Colin Powell, Rumsfeld, Perle, Feith and the rest of the unbalanced individuals who rushed the world to a war of choice.  The spin doctors of today will say that “bad intelligence” was to blame, but that too is a lie.

There was no bad intelligence, only bad people who made up false ‘intelligence’ and then foisted it upon the world. And it’s happening again.

To my mind, there’s no other way to interpret Breedlove’s comments; they are just too far outside of the bounds of what is a possible misinterpretation of data.  Again, ‘more than a thousand’ pieces of heavy armor cannot be hidden from satellites, especially not in the open, flat country that is eastern Ukraine. 

From a bit further in the Der Spiegel article we have this:

The experts contradicted Breedlove's view in almost every respect. There weren't 40,000 soldiers on the border, they believed, rather there were much less than 30,000 and perhaps even fewer than 20,000. Furthermore, most of the military equipment had not been brought to the border for a possible invasion, but had already been there prior to the beginning of the conflict. Furthermore, there was no evidence of logistical preparation for an invasion, such as a field headquarters.

 

Breedlove, though, repeatedly made inexact, contradictory or even flat-out inaccurate statements. On Nov. 18, 2014, he told the German newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung that there were "regular Russian army units in eastern Ukraine." One day later, he told the website of the German newsmagazine Stern that they weren't fighting units, but "mostly trainers and advisors."

 

He initially said there were "between 250 and 300" of them, and then "between 300 and 500." For a time, NATO was even saying there were 1,000 of them.

A short word for the phrase “flat out inaccurate statements” is lie.  We might as well get used to calling things by their correct terms, it makes things easier to follow and understand.

The reason I bring all this up is because the bellicosity of a small band of war hawks in the US seem to be driving policy for the entire nation.  Back in 2002, it was a very small group operating out of the Office of Special Plans from a small corner of the pentagon under the direction of Donald Rumsfeld to generate the false intelligence used to ‘justify’ a truly unnecessary and ill-advised war.

This time it seems to be Vitoria Nuland, General Breedlove, and the usual assemblage of war hawks in the Senate and Congress. 

But the risk cannot be denied.  2002 taught us all that the momentum of war can be initiated by obvious lies and a few dedicated people.  That same risk is afoot today.

Will it come to pass?  For the people of Ukraine it already has.  For the people of Syria and Iraq, it already has. 

The question is, will this spill over into a wider conflict that involves Europe and the US against Russia and whoever sides with Russia (*cough*cough* I’m looking at you, China).

As I predicted in the fall of 2014, things would continue to escalate before they deescalate.  The moves are coming fast and furious now.  The US has moved heavy armor into the region, right on Russia’s border:

US sends heavy armour to Baltic states to 'deter' Russia

Mar 9, 2015

 

Riga (AFP) - The United States on Monday delivered more than 100 pieces of military equipment to vulnerable NATO-allied Baltic states in a move designed to provide them with the ability to deter potential Russian threats.

 

The deliveries are intended to "demonstrate resolve to President (Vladimir) Putin and Russia that collectively we can come together," US Major General John R. O'Connor told AFP as he oversaw the delivery of the equipment in the port of Riga.

 

The delivery included Abrams tanks, Bradley fighting vehicles, Scout Humvees as well as support equipment and O'Connor said the armour would stay "for as long as required to deter Russian aggression".

 

The three former Soviet-ruled Baltic states of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, all NATO and European Union members since 2004, have very little military hardware of their own.

(Source)

Because the Western press seems unable to understand these things from a neutral perspective, let’s imagine how the US might react if Russia were to move heavy armor into Mexico to help “deter US aggression.”

I think we all know the answer to that: the US would immediately react in a very threatened manner. 

It needs to be pointed out that this is precisely the reason that NATO expansion was undertaken so aggressively back in the 1995–2005 period. The potential for military action became much greater than if the foreign affairs of individual countries were managed independently by their own governments.  Now, because of the NATO treaty, Europe and the US are obligated to military action if ever and whenever a perceived threat arises against any NATO member.

Of course, the chances of starting a conflict are immeasurably better if you taunt and parade yourself as close as possible to your intended adversary:

U.S. military vehicles paraded 300 yards from the Russian border

Feb 24, 2015

 

MOSCOW — U.S. military combat vehicles paraded Wednesday through an Estonian city that juts into Russia, a symbolic act that highlighted the stakes for both sides amid the worst tensions between the West and Russia since the Cold War.

 

The armored personnel carriers and other U.S. Army vehicles that rolled through the streets of Narva, a border city separated by a narrow frontier from Russia, were a dramatic reminder of the new military confrontation in Eastern Europe.

 

The soldiers from the U.S. Army’s Second Cavalry Regiment were taking part in a military parade to mark Estonia’s Independence Day. 

(Source)

It's obvious that there are factions within the US military establishment that are not just preparing for war with Russia, but actively provoking tensions. 

Which makes today’s news out of the EU all the more concerning because it shows a degree of coordination that now spans the Atlantic, and has jumped outside of the usual NATO military alliance and into the civilian bureaucracy of the EU:

Juncker calls for EU army, says would deter Russia

Mar 9, 2015

 

(Reuters) - The European Union needs its own army to face up to Russia and other threats as well as restore the bloc's foreign policy standing around the world, EU Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker told a German newspaper on Sunday.

 

Arguing that NATO was not enough because not all members of the transatlantic defense alliance are in the EU, Juncker said a common EU army would also send important signals to the world.

 

"A joint EU army would show the world that there would never again be a war between EU countries," Juncker told the Welt am Sonntag newspaper. "Such an army would also help us to form common foreign and security policies and allow Europe to take on responsibility in the world."

 

German Defence Minister Ursula von der Leyen welcomed Juncker's proposal: "Our future as Europeans will at some point be with a European army," she told German radio.

(Source)

It's telling that Juncker trotted out his proposal and immediately a German defense minister was at the ready to lend support.  This means it's a serious proposal, and has already been circulated and vetted.

While we might disagree as to whether a common military would prevent future wars between EU countries, the thing about armies is that once you have one, there’s a tendency to want to use it.

They are very expensive to just have lying about. In times past, no country would think of keeping one assembled after a war because they have a bad habit of needing something to do, and if nothing is available externally, they have been known to turn their power inwards (see: Egyptian military coup. Also: US military industrial complex).

And how has Russia reacted to all this?  In an escalate-y, predicable sort of way:

Russian legislator: EU’s common army, if created, to play provocative role

 

MOSCOW, 9 March. /TASS/. The European Union’s common armed forces, if they are ever created, may play a provocative role, first deputy chairman of the United Russia faction in the State Duma, Frants Klintsevich, told the media on Sunday.

 

"In the nuclear age extra armies do not provide any additional security. But they surely can play a provocative role," Klintsevich said, adding it was regrettable that such ideas had already met with some support.

 

"One should presume that a European army is seen as an addendum to NATO. And in this kind of situation Western politicians are not shy to accuse Russia of some aggressiveness," Klintsevich said.

(Source)

Russia went right for the nuclear trump card, noting that conventional forces do not really have a clearly defined role when nukes are on the table.  That is, Russia has said (again!) very clearly that they have nukes, might use them, and do not appreciate being constantly threatened.  And yet here we are. 

I mean, it was barely a week ago that a Russian military chief said this:

Russia says ready to reciprocate nuclear strike

Mar 1, 2015

 

A Russian military chief says the country's Strategic Missile Forces (SMF) are ready to defend the country against any possible “lightning-speed” nuclear strike.

 

If we have to accomplish a task of repelling a ‘lightning-speed’ nuclear strike, this objective will be attained within a prescribed period,” Andrei Burbin, the SMF Central Command’s chief, was quoted by Russian media as saying on Saturday.

 

He voiced the SMF preparedness to deliver a retaliatory nuclear strike “unhesitatingly” if Russia comes under any assault.

 

Referring to the geographic position of Russia’s missile units, the major general said it will protect them from demolition by “any global strike,” adding that 98 percent of the SMF systems would be new in 2020.

 

The comments come against the backdrop of a recent boost in NATO’s military presence near Russia’s borders. In 2014, NATO forces held some 200 military exercises with the Western military block’s Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg promising that such maneuvers would continue.

(Source)

You’d think that with the stakes being so high that there would be obvious diplomatic efforts underway to try and defuse the situation and prevent any accidents from happening. But instead, we see the West consistently accusing Russia of aggressiveness while holding hundreds of military exercises and positioning its NATO equipment closer and closer to Russia’s borders.

Meanwhile Russia is busy saying to the world, Hey look: we still have a bunch of working nukes over here and we think you should keep that in mind.

Conclusion

I fear that I will have to issue an ALERT at some point over this entire matter. Again, an ALERT happens when I come into possession of information that causes me to personally take new or different actions.

I am seriously entertaining preparing for war, and as I’ve written before, the nature of this next war could involve everything from trade battles, to cyber attacks, to financial system assaults,  a downing of the US electrical grid, to an actual shooting war  -- perhaps one that escalates to a nuclear exchange.

When things are this obviously crazy, anything is possible.

It is my contention that the next shooting war will change the geopolitical landscape permanently and irrevocably for the US and the US dollar’s reserve currency status. Much of the weight carried by the US is because of its dominant military.  But a military is only as powerful as its ability to project force; and that requires that you either walk to the conflict via a land bridge or you ship your heavy equipment over the seas.

Light skirmishes can be accomplished via air, but nothing too serious because it’s just not possible to fly in everything you need.  Tanks are heavy.  So is food and fuel.  Ammunition too.  Moving a hundred thousand troops requires ships. Of which, clearly, the USA has many.

But ships are no longer useful in the modern world, as France rather embarrassingly proved to the US recently:

US supercarrier ‘sunk’ by French submarine in wargames

Mar 6, 2015

 

The French Ministry of Defence has revealed one of its attack submarines pulled of an astounding upset during recent war-games in the North Atlantic.

 

The Aviationist blog spotted an article on the French defence force’s website — quickly withdrawn — which told how one of their submarines, the “Saphir” tackled the might of the United States’ navy off the coast of Florida.

 

At the core of the surface force was the enormous aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt and its powerful strike wing of 90 combat aircraft and helicopters.

 

Clustered protectively about it was several advanced cruisers and destroyers, and its own guardian submarine.

 

In one element of the war games, the Saphir was tasked with the role of being the “bad guy”.

 

Its mission: To seek, locate and exterminate the US naval force.

 

The exact details of how it achieved this embarrassing outcome is not known.

 

Somehow, the French submarine must have been able to slip between the defensive sensor patchwork of patrol aircraft, helicopters, warships and submarines to line up a shot on the $13 billion monstrosity.

 

There she lurked as a fictitious political crisis evolved in the world above.

 

On the final day of the exercise, the order finally came.

 

Sink the Theodore Roosevelt.

 

This 30-year-old Saphir proceeded to do. Along with most of the escorting warships.

(Source)

Yes, a single 39-year old submarine managed to sneak into the protective ring of an entire aircraft carrier group and go through a mock firing of its entire complement of torpedoes against the entire set of targets.

Oops.

Besides the embarrassment for the US crews involved, this proves an important point: ships are no match for submarines. And there are a lot of submarines out there on both sides. Offensive anti-ship technology in the form of advanced submarine torpedoes, as well as missiles fired from land or aircraft, have advanced by enormous leaps and bounds since WWII.

The US has never faced an adversary with such technology in open warfare. But Russia and China (and even Iran) are stocked to the gills with such weapons.

By provoking Russia, the US risks exposing the fact that it cannot really project power all across the globe anymore because it cannot possibly ship things to and fro with impunity.  Once that calculus changes, everything changes -- with King Dollar right at the top of the list.

Whether that comes to pass, I am finding the risk of a major conflict between NATO/EU and Russia to be high and seemingly growing higher with every passing week.  Such are the times in which we live.

It leaves me asking if it’s time to begin preparing for war, which means being ready for the worst.

I truly wish that this were not how things were unfolding, but seeing General Breedlove and Victoria Nuland get away unchallenged with their blatant falsehoods is giving me a serious case of déjà vu.

We’ve been here before. And we know that the war hawks seem to get their way, for reasons that remain murky at best. Only this time they have a real, legitimate and dangerous foe in their sights.

In Part 2: How To Prepare For War, we investigate the risks associated with the most likely forms of conflict should things escalate from here: trade war, energy war, financial war, cyberwar, grid-down sabotage, shooting war and nuclear war.

While any of these developments will be grim at best, there are a surprising number of steps you can take today that will reduce your vulnerability to each off these. And in most cases, the investment of material and time will have persisting value even if (hopefully) the current global tensions de-escalate.

But as we often say, the time to prepare for crisis is in advance. Given the risks, why wouldn't you start taking at least a few precautions now?

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LetThemEatRand's picture

I remember reading Chris Martenson with great interest in 2008.  Good for him making a cottage industry out of it.

knukles's picture

Prepare?  I thought that we were already at war!

BTW, domestic war, check out Broadcastify, Police, Ferguson MO.  Whole lotta shakin' goin' on tonight.  Crowds gathering, shots fired. 

LetThemEatRand's picture

Back in the late 1800's, early 1900's there were real conflicts between police and everyone else (back when corporations did not need to pussy foot around who owned the police).  In the '60's, there were real race riots.  Even in our adulthood, we had the King riots.  Today, we need to look to a suburb of St. Louis where a few shots have been fired.  Yes, it's the end of the world.

DeadFred's picture

China is ready for war. Iron ore stockpiled at the foundries, coal at the power plants and God only knows how much gold. Does anyone see any overhead power lines in those 'ghost' cities? Betcha they're built with emp level surge protectors. America on the other hand is expected (government estimates) to lose 50-90% of it's population if the grid is down for a year. I wonder if China stays nuetral if the Russia thing turns south?

SMG's picture

"Is It Time To Prepare For War?"

I'm sorry to say, yes it is.  And I hope I'm wrong, but save as many as you love as you can.

The ICBM's and bio-weapons are real, and are in the hands of some very evil people, on all sides.

Here's what's coming and why in case you're interested:

http://www.worldaffairsbrief.com/keytopics/threats.html

weburke's picture

plan for the sdr. 

Anusocracy's picture

"I wonder if China stays nuetral if the Russia thing turns south?"

The question is: Will the US do the dance of death with Russia and leave China standing?

Maybe in a parallel universe.

Slave's picture

God be with you dumbasses that haven't been preparing for years already.

OldPhart's picture

I have four cans of tuna.  I'm all set.

readyforit's picture

You'll be fine.  Don't forget the can opener. 

shovelhead's picture

Was he seen walking barefoot across Abbey Road?

Nexus789's picture

Damn, I forgot the can opener.

Rock and Hard Space's picture

'tis okay.  Find a hard, flat, spot like a politician or banster's head, or your driveway, even a tile or cement floor. Turn can upside down (top and bottom are no longer usually the same) and lay flat and rub vigorously back and forth for a few minutes.  Turn can upriight, squeeze sides and top should pop off.

Or buy cans with ring-tabs.

You're welcome.

PTR's picture

The best time to plant a tree is 15 years ago.  The second best time is today.

PTR's picture

Make your hay while the sun shines.

Paveway IV's picture

"Is It Time To Prepare For War?"

Not only no, but FUCK NO. In fact, it's time to prepare for mysterious, self-inflicted nail-gun suicides for the MIC cronies and government oligarchs that advocate war. I think more than enough little people have died for them in the last century or two. We're on vacation now (like the Greeks). It's time the chickenhawks start becoming terribly self-conflicted and paranoid about their roles and seriously consider making the voices in their heads go away with a hollow-point.

But I really can't promote suicide - even for the chickenhawks[sigh]. As an alternative, I propose that the only members of congress that are ever allowed to vote on any matters of war - like supplying lethal arms to Ukraine - must first become qualified by working hands-on for three days in the Mortuary Affairs (Graves and Registration) unit of, say, the Ukraine Army. If you can last that long, I will consider you fully qualified to vote on issues potentially involving dead Ukrainians and/or dead soldiers in general. If you can't last three days or choose not to show up, then you have no right whatsoever to vote in those matters while in congress. 

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winchester (not verified) Paveway IV Mar 13, 2015 5:02 AM

you dream, you will get killed for such words.

 

you do not change the world as it is by fighting elites and govs, you change it by letting elites nuke each others and get cockroache'd under the dome waiting dust fall down.

 

it is too late for any mass of the world to get things change,  only insanity fight insanity to get balance back,  at any cost. your job for yourself is anticipating, preparing, waiting. do not be fool enought thinking you gonna join micro army and remove  bad guy from the top, coz there will always be swaps, someone else take the seat, the only solution, is the final solution, wait until everything need to be rebuilt.

 

Paveway IV's picture

"...you dream, you will get killed for such words..."

Some words are worth dying for.

"...you do not change the world as it is by fighting elites and govs..."

My country wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for some old, dead guys fighting the elites and govs of their day. That's exactly how they changed their world.

"...you change it by letting elites nuke each others and get cockroache'd under the dome waiting dust fall down..."

Bad idea - you and I live in that same dome, winchester. How about we just cockroach a few elites, instead?

"...it is too late for any mass of the world to get things change,  only insanity fight insanity to get balance back,  at any cost..."

I'm sure someone said that same thing to all the old, dead guys that founded my country. I guess a lot of us are kind of insane like that here.

"...do not be fool enought thinking you gonna join micro army and remove  bad guy from the top, coz there will always be swaps, someone else take the seat..."

I have no plans to remove any bad guys 'from the top' for the reasons you just said. I just want to drive the elite class back in their secret underground lairs after they've soiled their expensive pants. Containment, not extermination. They're just not allowed anywhere near my government ever again. If they persist, then more extreme measures might be called for. 

"...the only solution, is the final solution, wait until everything need to be rebuilt..."

No - that's the solution of an irresponsible, lazy, helpless cowards with the luxury of all the time in the world to wait. I'm better than that and I owe people. Besides, I'll be dead in another twenty or thirty years. I don't have time to wait around for some theoretical post-WWIII reconstruction that may never happen before I get off my ass and do something.  

HowdyDoody's picture

"I just want to drive the elite class back in their secret underground lairs after they've soiled their expensive pants"

Like "pay your taxes and stay out of politics, or your ill-gotten gains will be confiscated and you will go to jail"?

Paveway IV's picture

King George said something like that.

2handband's picture

You're missing a few things:

1) Most of what you know about the American revolution is propoganda. Basically local oligarchs siezed power from oligarchs back in england and duped a bunch of the locals into fighting for them. The average colonist wasn't really any better off after the power changed hands... they just weren't colonists anymore. Oh, and more of them were dead. This isn't even tinfoil hat stuff; you can confirm it in a couple hours of internet time. Remember, the true purpose of primary school history is to promote patriotism, NOT to teach you how things actually happened.

2) The situation today is in no way analogous to the situation then; it's a false dichotomy which a lot of people unfortunately buy off on and sooner or later is going to get a lot of people killed. The deep state is much deeper, much more international, and much more powerful.

3) Even ignoring that and breaking it down to the simple shit, there are two reasons why armed revolution is impossible in the modern world. First off, the tehnological disparity between what is available to the populace and what is available to governments has never been greater. A bunch of untrained people with hunting rifles are going to do fuck-all against tanks and drones manned by trained professionals. And if you really think the armed forces will stand down or take your side, you'd better check your history. The second reason is the complete dependence the modern human has on the system. You really think you can stage a successful revolution without causing breakdowns in the flow of commerce? When that happens, all the people you need on your side are going to be opposing you because they need food. Remember the demonstations in france a few years ago? It was impressive... those folks damn near shut the country down (I never want to hear another American call the french pussies again, BTW). Until they came close to disrupting the flow of goods and services and lost their popular support.

4) Look into history and show me a single revolutionary government that hasn't been coopted by the vested interests before it got into power. I'll wait.

Bottom line: we're fucked.

Paveway IV's picture

'...Most of what you know about the American revolution is propaganda..." 

You have no idea what I think I know about the revolution. Don't judge me by your interpretation.

"...Basically local oligarchs seized power from oligarchs back in England and duped a bunch of the locals into fighting for them..."

Oligarch means belonging to the ruling class, not being relatively wealthy or successful. There was not a class of people in the colonies that made their entire living by being professional politicians or rulers - the founding fathers had farms, businesses and jobs. 'The locals' didn't care much for British rule or being forced to obey British orders at gunpoint. Nobody 'duped' then into fighting - they were pissed off enough to fight an arrogant power to rid themselves of it. 

"...The average colonist wasn't really any better off after the power changed hands... they just weren't colonists anymore.  Oh, and more of them were dead..."

They had rights relative to their new, limited government that citizens in other countries didn't have with their existing governments. You make it sound like those rights were trivial to the average person back then. People don't like living on their knees. Didn't you learn that in primary school history?

"...The situation today is in no way analogous to the situation then; it's a false dichotomy which a lot of people unfortunately buy off on and sooner or later is going to get a lot of people killed..."

It is analogous in the only way that matters: The government is run by and for the benefit of wealthy oligarchs. It 1) assigns itself rights and privileges it should not have in order to benefit itself and the wealthy and perpetuate their power, and 2) sees its citizens as labor and revenue-generators. Adversaries that need to be kept on a short leash - placated rather than served. And in case you haven't noticed, the U.S. government has already resulted in the needless deaths of millions in the last few decades and has no plans to change it's course in the near future. It can order your sons and daughters to their deaths for outright lies and kill millions of others with impunity, today. You don't see that as a seriously fucked-up problem?

"...The deep state is much deeper, much more international, and much more powerful..." "...Even ignoring that and breaking it down to the simple shit, there are two reasons why armed revolution is impossible in the modern world..."

I'm not looking for replacement psychopaths by killing the current ones - that's the revolution you keep talking about. I'm looking to sever all links between any sort of 'deep state' and my government - permanently. Remove their influence. That takes a little more thought than running up and down the street with a shotgun looking for politicians. In fact, those spineless bastards are the least of my worries. It would probably be more productive to cull the lobbyists, PACs and wealthy oligarchs until the surviving ones understood that they are not allowed near my government. I sincerely think there must be a better way than 'culling' - I'm just not smart enough to know the answer today. That doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist nor does it mean a solution doesn't exist. 

"...You really think you can stage a successful revolution without causing breakdowns in the flow of commerce?..."

No, but I think I can remove a lot of the incentive my government seems to have to do the wrong things. Removing the inordinate influence of wealthy interests on my government isn't going to shut down ANY legitimate commerce. It will just make the wealthy bitchy about how horrible life is for them if they can't bribe the government or have access to profitable inside information. 

"...Look into history and show me a single revolutionary government that hasn't been coopted by the vested interests before it got into power. I'll wait...."

Wait away - you're the one that threw up the straw-man of armed revolution. I can accept every last idiot in government today without a single change if I was sure that they were not influenced by or acting on behalf of other wealthy oligarchs. I can handle stupid and/or ideological but sincere. I can't tolerate secretly bought and paid-for stooges or anyone bringing home the bacon to their state for the benefit of their little clan of local wealthy oligarchs.

"...Bottom line: we're fucked..."

You certainly ARE the perfect slave. What's your name, boy? SAY IT!

We're only fucked if we're looking for quick, easy, ethical answers because there are none. Culling the rich oligarchs is quick and easy, but not terribly ethical.

Paveway IV's picture

I'm not smart enough to think up of a good plan - I'm hoping someone else can. 

One of two things are going to happen: either someone does come up with a good enough plan, or nobody ever does and we eventually resort to running up and down the streets with shotguns.

Shropshire Lad's picture

re SMG "World Affairs Report"

 

< p>Skousen's report is about as insightful as high school homework.  A portentious timewaster ....

 

Bendromeda Strain's picture

Yup - checked it out before, and smh at its reappearance. Poor analysis leads to false conclusions. Hey, did you all see where ZBig said that the EU should come out and unequivocally state that "newest member of Europe, Ukraine, will not be joining NATO." Some balls on that reptile, I wonder if he offered up his daughter to the circle?

btdt's picture

what makes you think burying power lines protects from EMP?

angel_of_joy's picture

They are if you bury them inside metallic pipelines.

Wile-E-Coyote's picture

Have you ever heard of armoured cables, they have a steel braid between the insulated conductors and outer plastic sheath along the entire length, that is earthed at both ends.  Aka Faraday’s cage. The steel braid is primarily there to protect the cable from mechanical damage but................................

Urban Redneck's picture

Not really, because even if (which is another diuscussion) the shielding on the conduit achieves the correct signal attenuation to block an EMP, any power line is useless if it does not connect a funtioning power plant to consuming power consumers, and since we are talking about induced EMPs (as opposed to naturally occurring EMPs due to extra-terrestrial radiation) all the shit at both ends would have to properly shielded too.  Otherwise, you just have a more expensive damage delivery system.

DeadFred's picture

Buried lines are immune to the worst part, the E1 pulse which amounts to low grade lightning coming down from the sky everywhere. The E2 and especially the E3 pulses can affect them but they can be protected by fairly simple surge protectors. The E3 pulse, which is similar to the geomagnetic storm from a solar flare is the biggest danger to them but since it produces a slow (several seconds at least) build up of DC voltage on the line, simple control systems can be effective. Plus the E3 pulse won't affect equipment that isn't on the grid so mothballed cities should/might emerge unscathed. It's untested engineering so I wouldn't want to bet my life on it but the real queastion is would the Chinese bet their lives on it?

Gold is money - and bullets if your out of lead's picture

maybe those ghost cities have a purpose after all.

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winchester (not verified) cheech_wizard Mar 13, 2015 5:07 AM

in russia army selecting target, i would choose N.Y and D.C...

 

but that is too obvious, and you know what, i would not be so surprised if detroit was a hidden place for us gov on WW3.

Nexus789's picture

Detroit has already been nuked but no one has noticed.

Bendromeda Strain's picture

It's Denver - haven't you been paying attention?

Rock and Hard Space's picture

Dear gawd no, not De'toilet.

Depending on which conspiracy you tend to, the reality of the humongous Muslim/MiddleEast population could either solidify, or deny, the claim.

Things that make you go, 'mmm?

TheMeatTrapper's picture

@LTER:

Back in the day, we were a far more resilient nation, populated by a far more self reliant people. That is, white people who put men on the moon rather than black people who, well, I can't really think of anything they've done lately other than riot, steal, catch footballs and make rap "music" about bitches and hoes. But remember - black lives matter. I'm sure somebody like you can come up with a reason why. Perhaps you'll chime in with a response that documents exactly what they've contributed in the last 50 years.

Thanks to people like you, we are now an incredibly helpless nation, far more dependent on an ever shrinking number of competent white men to maintain the national infrastructure so that tens of millions of morbidly obese, government educated, unemployable "Americans" can sit at home watching Jerry Springer and collect disability checks because they're too fat, lazy and stupid to work.

This is why in the past big riots were an anomaly. They were breaks between periods of normalcy. Now even a few shots fired can have huge repercussions, depending upon who fired them and at who.  

It's not the end of the world. But when you're nigger buddies get their hands on you - you'll wish it had been.

 

Jam's picture

You could add the Tribe as a unproductive class as well.

Lore's picture

That's right, focus your hatred and grievances on other enslaved groups that are marketed to you for your convenience, just like you're programmed to.  "Nasty black people!" you say, and the black people look back at you and say: "Nasty white people!"  Or "Nasty Islamists!"  Or "Chicoms" or "Russkies" or "Kapitalist Dogs" or whatever.  Each group has their worldview packaged and delivered to them through years of methodical acculturation complete with scapegoats, and while you're opening fire on each other like Hatfields and McCoys, the real con men slip away quietly to prey another day.  Wash, rinse, repeat. 

Political Ponerology:  A Science on the Nature of Evil Adjusted for Political Purposes

Rock and Hard Space's picture

Thank you @Lore.

Preordained strife and us "smart" guys fall into line to do our master's dirty work.

It is US vs THEM, but most have the true players wrong.

The Us is all of us, including the physically and mentally destroyed in the cities and the productive, and the Them is our true masters and the governments they use to enslave us and pit us against ourselves.

@MeatTrapper I bet you still believe in morality laws and Red vs. Blue too.

The aware that remain ignorant are one of the biggest enemies of personal sovereignty.  In this and in the past.

unrulian's picture

Are you talking about the White exceptional men like the ones that occupy washington?

Grimaldus's picture

Progressives like LTER have put many many blacks BACK ON THE PLANTATION. Oh yeah Slaves again my brothers but this time they got a bunch of whites there with 'em. Progressives will have everybody on the plantation again if they get their big government criminal way.

When were the first gun laws written? After the civil war, to keep guns out of the hands of free blacks. Now the progressives froth at the mouth to be able to take guns away from blacks and everyone else. Obozo and dickHolder are working overtime to take guns away from free blacks again. They are some twisted motherfuckers.

Constitutional conservatism will give blacks and everyone else their freedom back, if they want it. You won't get personal liberty from criminal big government mafia progressives, that's for fucking sure.

Ironic, isn't it? Most blacks support the progressives that make them slaves.

Grimaldus

 

mercy's picture

On a fundamental level, what is the difference between you and TPTB. Both you and TPTB see your "race" as superior while others are to be thought of as trash.

 

You are but a useful fool. In a way, I almost pity you. Almost, but not really as you will deserve what is coming your way.