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The West's Plan To Drop Russia From SWIFT Hilariously Backfires
Submitted by Simon Black via Sovereign Man blog,
If Vladimir Putin is remotely capable of laughter (the jury is out on that one…) then he’s probably doing so right now.
Russia is once again Arch-Enemy of the United States. It’s like living through a really bad James Bond movie, complete with cartoonish villains.
And for the last several months, the US government has been doing everything it can to torpedo the Russian economy, as well as Vladimir Putin’s standing within his own country.
The economic nuclear option is to kick Russia out of the international banking system. And the US government has been vociferously pushing for this.
Specifically, the US government wants to kick Russia out of SWIFT, short for the Society of Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunications.
That’s a mouthful. But SWIFT is an important component in the global banking system because it lays the foundation for banks to communicate and transfer funds with one another.
It’s a network protocol of sorts. Whenever a bank in Pakistan does business with a bank in Portugal, the funds will clear through the SWIFT network.
According to the SWIFT itself, they link over 9,000 financial institutions worldwide in over 200 countries, which transact 15 million times per day.
Bottom line, being part of SWIFT is critical to conducting business with the rest of the world. And if Russia gets kicked out of SWIFT, it would be a disaster.
Now, SWIFT is technically organized as a ‘Cooperative Society’ and governed by a board of directors.
There are 25 available board seats, and each seat is allocated for a three-year term to a specific country.
The United States, Belgium, France, Germany, UK, and Switzerland each hold two seats. A handful of other countries hold just one seat. And of course, most countries don’t hold any seats at all.
Here’s what’s utterly hilarious—
On Monday afternoon, not only did SWIFT NOT kick Russia out… but they announced that they were actually giving a BOARD SEAT to Russia.
This is basically the exact opposite of what the US government was pushing for.
Awkward…
But this story is even bigger than that.
Because at the same time that the US government isn’t getting its way with SWIFT, the Chinese are busy putting together their own version of it called CIPS.
CIPS stands for the China International Payment System; it’s intended to be a direct competitor to SWIFT, and a brand new way for global banks to communicate and transact with one another in a way that does NOT depend on the United States.
We’ll talk about CIPS in more details in a future letter. But in brief, it addresses some serious weaknesses, inefficiencies, and technological challenges of SWIFT.
And it should be ready to go later this year.
Make no mistake, this is the beginning of the end of the US dollar’s global hegemony. It’s time to stop hoping that it won’t happen and time to start preparing for it.
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The big barrier called Putin"Must stop moose and squirrel"
Sure he can laugh ;-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC8lCObwSQc
im pretty sure tyler durden blew up the swift servers in the end of Fight Club. atleast, thats the extent of the message i received.
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have you guys ever experienced what it is like to be in "Check Systems"? its a fucking nightmare. it is basically the swift network for slaves like you and i. if you owe the bank money, and you default, you go to check systems, and for other various reasons. well, try to function in everyday life on a cash basis. as i found, its extremely difficult. it has come to the point that you must have a checking account to accomplish day-to-day activities. this imho is in direct violation of our constitution. any how stay tuned for more of "maskone909's checks systems adventures"
Create a joint checking account with someone you would never fuck over. Or, if you have really earned someone's trust....open an account in their name. The trick here is not to detonate every bridge you cross. Not as easy as it sounds...believe me.
Fuck it. Get a cap one card. It paid my stay in cozemel. Cash system. WTF are you fucks dinasaurs? No checking account? IT is only for cash transfers without having to be there in person. What a bunch of retards.
Move the fuck forward or be left behind. How the fuck do you pay the cable bill to go on the internet? OK, go to the library. Fuck you I pay 200 bucks a year for the library for assholes to use free internet?
My dad likes to do everything cash. Fuck him too.
What Putin thinks:http://youtu.be/MPWBqnYVTws
Swift only benefits the Jews and their parasitic criminality. Fuck that. Cips benefits and facilitates trade. Good for BRICS.
sad it will take an emp
just to silence some dickwads
And anyone else notice that most movie and tv show villians are now Russian? Weird eh?
Putin laughs his ass off at a MSMedia a hole
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8ux3oiWELIQ
Journalist makes Putin laugh, almost to tears.
This video provides the context
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8ux3oiWELIQ
Flipping channels I see that they play 'Rocky 4" on CMT about every 3 days now.....need to get those boys from the Midwest to get with the program(ming).
Da
caution! fluffers at work
Thanks for the warning, Mister Kittycat. So who are you and the rest of the Kiev Kartofel Korps slurping today? Jean-Claude Juncker? Tony Cameron? I'll bet it's the manly man's man, General Philatio Manlove.
Well, lets hope he doesn't read ZH and let's you in during the next blackout.
When it comes to Russia, Obama is like a "One-Legged Cat trying to bury Shit on a Frozen Pond!" You can't help but laugh...
You're the most popular fucktard at parties, right? Everybody wishes they could be like you, right?And you can't keep up with all the pussy throwing themselves at you, right?
None of the above. You're just an azzhole. Of course if there is someobscure joke buried in your comment, then let me say ... you're still an azzhole.
Apparently you do not read or comprehend what was said. The word default was used. WTF are you blind?
Some people burn every bridge before they cross it.
This !!
experienced it first hand when i found myself and my wife in Billings Mt. of all places-- and couldnt rent a fucking car with cash...pissed me off to the max. However, on a brighter note I called a local cab company and they said they would take cash and drive us to Bozeman Airport. The Cabbie had a nice van and smoked...go figure. Ten times better than a rental. God is good...go with the flow
thanks bro's. yeah it was quite the nightmare. i filed for bk when i was 20. 32 now. although it was along time ago, i can still remember how frustraiting it was. everytime i swipe my debit card i am thanking god i dont have to go through that agian- and thats the worst part! it makes you realize how dependent you really are on their products. to actually be thankful to have the privilage to use a bullshit plastic card... what a world
I find it interesting that a Judge...in New York City no less...refuses to let Citigroup loan to Argentina.
How else is the country suppose to pay the already exorbitant interest on the exorbitant debt?
One day New York City is going to find out what that means. "Sorry, no credit for your financial system.". Those clowns wouldn't even exist were it not for the American taxpayer.
Indeed...destroying said taxpayer (aka Whitney Tilson) seems to be their specialty. I mean who wants to publicly short a retailer let alone sue them?
These businesses employ tens of thousands, pay property taxes and to my knowledge do not knowingly engage in harmful behavior...unlike say...CBS.
Maybe its time someone started suing the media now that we know what side of the recovery they are on...
The intent is clearly to force Argentina into a Greek style default.
Indeed...destroying said taxpayer (aka Whitney Tilson) seems to be their specialty. I mean who wants to publicly short a retailer let alone sue them?
He is short LL stock. He wants them to crash, which would be a huge mistake for workers around here.
The intent was to try to make Argentina pay full value to some speculating retards who bought that bad debt up at pennies to the dollar, by not allowing Argentina to settle the debts with a partial payment.
Which leaves them no choice but to default on everyone now.
Not that I have a bit of sympathy for bankers who loan money to known deadbeats, and the shareholders who let them
Just sympathy for the depositors who's deposits are now backed with bad paper.
Is it not a law that they have to accept legal tender, aka, cash? If really true, one smells a lawsuit.
The federal reserve act doesn't apply to other countries. A federal judge simply forbade them to accept partial payments of federal reserve notes in return for debt forgiveness.
Which will now drive hem to default, and now no one will get paid.
In Los Angeles it was not possible a couple of years ago to pay in cash for the airport shuttle from the local subway. I asked the bus driver what happens if someone did not have a credit card, he replied that the non credit card carrying passenger would have to ask someone on the bus as a favor to use their credit card!
Go wit the pho!
pho! and a spring roll! (or three). you tried bun bo hue?
SWIFT all of a sudden kissing Russia and China's ass because they developed a competitive system they don't control.
Ut ohh, Happy learned how to putt...
or they are all in on it.... I was never convinced there is any real division. That stupid headline "Russia to put Nukes in Crimea" really made me suspicious.
why not open a company, and use its checking account?
fairly cheap to do, $99 through legalzoom, even cheaper if you do a bit of legwork yourself.
when you do that, who's SSN# will you use? or do they require tax ID instead? that just might be a great idea. what i actually did was open a trading account through E-trade. i deposited funds and they let you use a visa credit card as your debit card. not sure if you can still do it tho. took me a few years to figure that one out lol (i was a broke college student anyways)
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if i remember correctly i dont think the etrade card let me use debit only credit. that must be how it bypassed checks systems
tax id... I've gone that route through legal zoom for my "custom furniture" company. Taking a loss this year as we placed some furniture in a store, and little did we know that the couple running the store was using the chain's name apparently without it's permission, and the FBI got involved, and the banksters decided that everything in the store was now theirs. Despite handing the bank photographic evidence they still refuse to return the furniture we had on display there. So, let the bank deal with moving the merchandise, while we take a tax loss and get refunded by fedgov...
The whole incident is all the talk of the local tax accountants whenever they get together for drinks or one of their "cpa" meetings.
The corporation files for a tax ID number. The bank gets that.
"it has come to the point that you must have a checking account to accomplish day-to-day activities"
I was going to enroll in a Swedish University Online Course, offered by a large Swedish University in Lund Being an American, I thought it would be easy to enroll, and be easy to pay for my first semester. WRONG! Europe uses SWIFT, every person with a bank account in Europe is part of SWIFT. All I need do is contact my bank via e-banking, and transfer the fee in Swedish Kronor to the University SWIFT number given and all was set.
But I bank in America, the only banks that are integrated into SWIFT are the big banks. Wells Fargo was the nearest branch for me. I had to go to Wells and open some accounts and deposit money to them, then and only then, and for a sickeningly high fee, could I transfer money to the Swedish University's SWIFT number.
Problem is. I hate fees! I hate big banks! I will never dpeosit any money in a big bank. Thus I had no way to use SWIFT. In Europe, SWIFT is the basis for everything. You pay everything through SWFIT transfers. Every business or entity has it's SWIFT numbers, and all bank account holders have their SWIFT numbers. Paying anything anywhere is simple fast and secure and instant.
SO YES! I could not, on any account, take university classes without a BIG BANK account, checking and savings. Pay all those fucking fees, and give NSA access to all my accounts. Otherwise, the world is out of your reach.
Well then, the world can't reach my $7.94 account balance. The pain of it will bring the world to its knees someday, begging me to spend. The world can FOAD; I'm an American. .
Check out similar courses or programs in BRICS countries. The jobs are going in that direction anyway. Might as well learn their way of doing things.
Jack, just a point of clarification, only banks (and a few large corporations) have Swift addresses. A Swift code (or SWIFTBIC, as it’s sometimes known) is a code that helps overseas banks identify which bank to send money to. For example, if an overseas bank is sending to a payment to say Barclays bank UK account, they’ll need to know the Swift code = BARCGB22 BARC = mnemonic for bank, GB = ISO country code, 22 = location code
CITIUS39 CITI = citibank, US = you guess, 39 = New York
There has been an attempt to make european cross border transfers easier and cheaper by introducing a standard for account numbers, this is known as IBAN which stands for International Bank Account Number. Your IBAN doesn’t replace your account number ? it’s an additional number that contains extra information to help overseas banks identify your account for payments and is quoted on statements. some non-european countries have also adopted it.
So, to make a transfer from the US into say a Swedish university account you would normally be given two pieces of information, the Swift address of the university's bank and an IBAN which is the university's account "number".
I have forgotten the similar system used in the US, ACH ??
Anyway, your problem as you say is that smaller US banks are not geared up for international payments. They should have a correspondent relationship with a larger bank that offers that service but have probably found it's not worth their while.
The actual charge to a bank for a Swift message is low, maybe ten cents, the rest is the (extortionate) amount the bank adds.
Why don't you offer them Bitcoin?
Check Systems ?
Banksters Tyranny of Absolute Power in which the Banksters are Always right and the customer is Always wrong and has no real rights of mediation appeal.
Lost my banking ability after Bank's Error in my checking account, which they would not admit. The appeal process was just legal pretense, totally useless to the customer.
Bank's error cost them a very small amount of money, but totally messed up my life for Five years.
I will never forget those Banksters when Judgement Day arrives.
Doesn't snapswap or some ripple company do debit cards? I forget the name of the card, sorry.
Also: ARR matey, the currency of the high seas now bees electronic sea shell beads, arr, they're relatively reliable, arr arr arr
don't know about that one, but i belive xapo (xapo.com) allows you to deposit bitcoin into your account and withdraw $usd on your xapo debit card - last i heard it wasn't available to usa customers, however
"Check Systems" rings a bell somewhere in the memory hole, but with different connotations.
However, I just wrapped up a four month trip around the world that I began by leaving my house without my credit or debit card... so I just had a non-debit Swiss ATM card, a few thousand CHF, and my bankers cell phone number along with my passport & driver's license.
Europe is not really a problem, other than the fact it seems NOT A SINGLE FUCKING AIRPORT is setup to take cash for excess baggage at the ticket counter anymore...
The Banana Republics aren't really an issue either, with the right friends and owing to their large cash economies.
The USSA, however, was a FUCKING NIGHTMARE. You go into a bank to make a withdrawal (because the largest bills at many ATMs are 20s) and you still get an impractically thick pile of hundreds that you can't fit in your wallet (and probably SAR'd to the Treasury Department terrorist watch list). I finally broke down and got a prepaid debit card at a convenience store, since so many places are not really to setup to take cash or make proper change like in a civilized country. At least with internet access I could by my airline tickets with some random string of numbers and avoid being added to probably the only terrorist watch list I'm not already on (and being groped twice instead of once by the TSA).
...
More seriously, Hernando de Soto's research on the grey economy is required reading for both the Chicago Boys and the MIT nerds, and the people they task to destabilize, shore up, or clamp down on the locals... but something seems to have been lost in translation post 9/11/2001.
Of course, there is something worse than being marginalized by the modern financial system (unless you are happy hiding out in some rural reduit or hillbilly hovel and never venture far from home)... being without a government issued ID card. In which case - you are a nobody, a terrorist, or a spook (not that those three are mutually exclusive...), and regardless... persona non grata.
But, where is he?
http://fortune.com/2015/03/12/putins-mysterious-absence-has-moscow-a-buz...
"He's in Ukraine eating puppies and babies." --Vicky Nuland
Vladimir is having a well deserved rest, charging up his batteries...
Meanwhile, France eats the costs of not delivering Mistral ship to Russia to the tune of 2.5 million euros a month...
http://tass.ru/en/economy/782358
You'd think since rumors have been swirling for a few days that he would come out.
I vote for either in the bunker or poisoned.
I think he just gave the western banksters a swirlie...
I'm leaning towards bunkered since he always travels with his own food and has a 'taster".
If the NeoCons are to maximize their chances of success in a European war with Russia then overthrowing or killing Putin has to be at the top of their list or they are even bigger idiots than they already appear.
Really?
When I was in the service we didn't even want to run Haiti.
I mean fine...go for it if that's what "the con's" want I guess. Wrestle bears, pet reindeers, needlessly provoke your friends, destroy your Commonwealth.
Sounds kinda like...well, the USA actually.
Maybe you're right after all...
ha - reminds me of a most excellent song from my youth, by Kayak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn6SC75to4E
bs
Good post (link)
Tylers initial headline read "alive"
what do Tylers know and not sharing at this point?
Tyler may have been referring to this:
Unconfirmed Russian Internet rumors that Vladimir Putin is dead
DEBKAfile March 12, 2015, 11:03 AM (IDT)DEBKAfile reports that Russian websitesThursday morning began running unconfirmed reports that Russian President Vladimir Putin had suddenly died. This has not been confirmed by any official in Moscow. But a short announcement of Putin’s death was seen briefly on Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev’s website early Thursday, only to be removed after 20 minutes. According to officials in Moscow, Putin was expected in Kazakhstan Thursday for meetings with its leaders, but failed to turn up.
The same people who want to isolate Putin cry that they don't see him. If they want to isolate - quit watching him.
He may have eaten some of Victoria Nuland's cookies. He may be a bit under the weather ... or dead!
Back before they decided to turn him into the devil at a charity event attended by lots of US celebrities including Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn... who would have thought it ... Putin on Blueberry Hill.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekeq4szDmJo
Winning ...
The first rule of Putin Fight Club, don't stand in the way of Putin's fist when it repeatedly punches you in the face while your nose is already shattered.
I've seen it argued that this Putin bashing is theatre (made man).
I think it's possible though need more research. Good acting, if it is acting.
Exactly, I wouldn't mess with Russian bear wrestlers as well as the guys like this making ice bucket with liquid nitrogen.
ANNNNDDD the privatization and stealing of Ukrainian assets have started in earnest. For fucks sake the ink on the newly minted 17.5 Billion IMF loan hasn’t even dried up. http://tass.ru/en/economy/782390
"transferring some assets to "respected Europeans and Americans" for management." -LOLLLLL
It's what 'we' do best, it seems.
Steel gas pipelines don't last forver.
"...and it's gone"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nVk25ZvTkU
No loans for you Argentina!
No loans for you Argentina!
Ukrainians are worse than the Greeks. At least the Greeks are putting up this dog & pony show to drag out the process until the ink on Drachmas is dry.
When in doubt start a war.
Just avoid the Falklands that's all...
Its not the Ukes its the J-mafia and the mercenary army that have seized control.
http://redefininggod.com/2015/02/globalist-agenda-watch-2015-update-19a-...
We must call up these patriotic obama supporting big government loving Milinials to fight Russia now!! It is thier duty and they will be happy to serve the master Obama in this historic war!!
No go happen. American youth soft like Panda bear belly. Chinese/Russia youth strong like Alligator jaw. American youth best ally with Western European....sorry no animal left in Western Europe.
Bob, you're an idiot and a Millennial.
Stop the self-loathing.
Sounds to me like they gave a board to the seat of Obozo. Hope it was studded.
Hopefully an electric chair.
Vlad.
"If Vladimir Putin is alive and remotely capable of laughter (the jury is out on that one...) then he’s ..."
Ehhh, even MSM is spreading that rumor now. Let's all take a minute and pray that he's still alive.
It was clearly an assasination attempt. The plot was to make Putin laugh so much he died of laughter :)
But this makes sense for SWIFT. They have (had?) a near-monopoly on this kind of service, and now they have seen both Russia and China beginning to create competing networks. It they shut them out, they know this will just accellerate. But if they embrace these countries, and make them think they have an influence on SWIFT, maybe - just maybe - they can slow down the development of competing networks.
The phrase "keep your friends close and your enemies closer" comes to mind.
My dog's got no nose! How does he smell? Awful!
I suspect a Zero has failed in his solemn suicide watch duties....
Putin approval rating in Russia: 80+%
Sounds like a representative democracy. But
Obama approval rating in U.S.: 11%
U.S. Congress approval rating in U.S.: 5%
U.S. Supreme Court rating in U.S.: 25%
That's lower than in the governments we're trying to overthrow. Assad has a higher approval rating than Obama, and the U.S. government is still trying to assassinate him. The U.S. Government is a tyrannical plutocracy and has turned into the enemy of other representative democracies.
American sheeple give themselves a 97% approval rating when asked about their ability to elect competent, trustworthy leaders.
5% is a lie, unless the survey only called the representative's moms. Can't be more than 1%, if that.
And Amereeka is owned and operated by Kazarian Juice, ask Bibi.
Stalin's approval rating was almost 100%.
What's your point, Bob?
...hahahahahahaha..... another successful foreign policy checkers move by the arroganat narcissistic divisive incompetent illegal indonesian kenyan alien muslim sociopathic pathological liar in chief fudgepacker against the chess player Putin.... whether you like Putin or not, he seems to run circles around the fudgepacker..... hahahahahahahaha
I agree with your assessment of BO. But he's just a cypher in all of this. This is not HIS policy. He's just doing what his handlers tell him and waiting for when he can knock off and get back to the golf course.
It's just one big conspiracy, isn't it? :-)
Tell that to JFK who didn't want to expand the war against North Vietnam.
Oh, you can't. Somebody shot him. Then somebody shot the guy who shot JFK.
Then the guy who shot the guy who shot JFK got brain cancer in jail. Same as CIA Director William J Casey in 1986 and was lobotomized during the brain surgery.
But you don't like conspiracies. Everything is just as it appears.
Dolt
Are we certain that he's not the fudgepackee? Perspiring minds want to know.
Have you been judo-flipped by that guy?
He's an ANIMAL on the mat!! :-)
I wish he'd pull his johnson out of your butt and give the rest of us a turn.
and the emperors clothes come off.
Bwahahahaha!!!
I dont think the US will let its power slip away this easy, they are not going to sit back and watch China and Rusia take its power and do nothing about it.
You're probably right. I bet the US does something stupid, like threaten Russia with sanctions or move airborne divisions and tanks and drones next to the Russian border.
I want to see the US sanction half the world...Russia, China, Iran, Syria, Lybia, Greece, Vietnam, Venezuala, Brazil, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and any other country that doesn't want to play ball! Now that would be entertainment. Eventually, if they ended up sactioning everyone they themselves would in effect be the ones that are isolated.
heh heh.
HA HA HA HA!
I really do fear that in a attempt to stay the ruler of the world the Globalist destroy the very thing they are trying to rule. Not that they aren't destroying it now I just don't want the process sped up through nuclear weapon exchanges.
The sad fact is that the NeoLibs had everything under control with Russia's most valuable assets already stripped followed by the injection of hundreds of billions of US dollar denominated growth strangling and sovereignty crushing debt stuffed down it's throat.
Then along came Nudelman's NeoClowns and now their egos are orchestrating a war that can only go nuclear...
I've read of a battalion of troops being sent to Ukraine, of armored vehicles being sent to Latvia...now what would an American president do if Russia sent troops and combat aircraft to Mexico or Cuba? Indeed, what DID an American president do when Soviet missiles showed up in Cuba? Obomber is doing essentially the same thing Khrushchev did in 1962. (It figures, since both are/were communists.)
Maybe they'll authorize the shooting down of another airliner, this time with nuns and priests on board.
CIPS stands for the China International Payment System.
Hee hee hee. Me told you round-eye. No more penis jokes or I copy you idea and place small penis is ass.
I've seen Putin laugh plenty of times, and not that fake laugh you get from US politicians either.
You mean the "Djisselbloem gambit"?
The sort of laugh where the politician does so through clenched teeth, like they have just sat on a hemorrhoid in the presence of polite company and are attempting to shrug it off.
Normally accompanied by a token pat on the back/shoulder and a cordial handshake, as if to say, "See world? No hard feelings between us."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PlcJT61py0
Obama laughs when Reggie tickles his nutsack
A tickle? Is that what they call a reach around nowadays?
How do you like them apples, MudStein?
As I understand , so far, Putin and China are developing an alternative international payments system.
The only reason why they have been offerred a seat on the board is because SWIFT thinks that a Russian/Chinese alternative will be bad for business.
I hope it's too late and it looks like they've fucked up again.
I don't think Putin is a man to get fool me twiced. Abusing Russia's trust once was the one chance the US oligarchy got.
It's the same scenario for Germany and the rest of the EU. By the time they get around to figuring out that sanctions against the russians are killing their own economies, it'll be too late to return to a sensible policy. Bunch of fuctards being led to the gallows by US policy.
"Gee, how come our Euro is crashing, Hans?"
"I do not know, Heinrich."
Hans: I am Hans.
Franz: And I am Franz.
Together: And we just want to pump up your economy!
You forgot the part where Franz calls the audience girlyman. I can just picture Vlad calling the WH queer a girlyman.
Come on guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ux3oiWELIQ
There are only 196 countries.
Its kind of a weird experience to love this country (U.S.) while finding myself being a fan of the EVIL EMPIRE...duck and cover.....
That's because a country and a government are not the same thing.
"Loyalty to the country always. Loyalty to the government when it deserves it." - Mark Twain
"Make no mistake, this is the beginning of the end of the US dollar’s global hegemony. It’s time to stop hoping that it won’t happen and time to start preparing for it." Read more blogs by the conspiracy nuts, make conspiracy nuts ad money, while telling their sheep readers that Dollar will collapse for decades now, infact unlike the conspiracy nut lovechild Ruble(record lows), USD is at multi-decade highs. :D Buy buy buy buy Gold(Hello $5000 gold "smart money" articles of 2011, where did they go?)!!!! For all the bashing of the "retail sheep" who are buying stocks and getting richer, the self described "smart money" of this site have been so wrong...market collapse any day now, this chart and that chart, dollar going down, apocalypseeee!!!! Seriously I sometimes wonder how come some of you still got any money left... All I hear is that market is going down and gold will go up, do any of you actually buy this stuff(or short the market)?
All they know is hollowpoints , lakes and prepper food.
Life leaves clues dip Sh$t, you paying attention, or Does Tylers DOWN charts make you weak in the knees?
And yet, dipsquats like risingsun and crazytechnician keep coming back to ZH and commneting on topics they have already demonstrated a complete misunderstanding of. Co-dependent personalities?
Co-dependent employer more probably...
It all goes your way....until that explosive minute when it doesn't and all the exits are jammed with bodies
trying to escape the conflagration....bodies stacked up to the ceiling, clawing, trampling each other,
forming a giant heap of flesh to be melted down and rendered like candle wax.
gold was at 300 bucks an oz not too long ago. and the blatantly obvious naked shorting on the comex is cause for concern. wasnt it the conspiracy prepper tinfoil hat folks that said the housing market would explode and sink like the titanic? did you think that the 10y would be under 2%? did you think that trillions would be pumped into the banking system?
why dont you give us all some stock tips then, id like to hear from the CraMerica crowd once in a while.
Stock tips? BTFD.
um
I see they have you guys burning the midnight oil in Latvia...
Here, have a potato.
Latvia jokes funny except when not funny not then.
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/b3/b3ecd42213a794508fbaa839a3b30f7c0ddd12ae...
And you waste your worthless time here at zh because?
And what if that was the plan all along?
Remember.....
After the elections, I’ll have more flexibility....
I’ll pass it to Putin...
One big con game and most won’t see it comming
Obama isn't working in the best interest of the US so he may as well be working for Putin.
If you like your SWIFT seat, you can keep it
India + Russia + China = 1 Swiftless USSA!
Putin is totally capable of laughter.
https://youtu.be/8ux3oiWELIQ
WWIII is over bitchez. Back to work.
Wait one second. This is analogous to Hillary Clinton in 2008 offering Barack Obama the "opportunity" to be Vice-President on her Presidential election ticket AFTER Obama won the Democratic Primary. I'm hoping that Putin knows and adheres to the principle "When you got em' by the balls, squeeze"?
Keep loading up on the gold.
What? The euros and others are finally getting some BALLCE?
They're standing up to UhMerika? Pinch me, damnit! Am I just dreaming????
someone please make a joke about Taylor SWIFT haha
We isolated some folks. Or not.
I will bet that a lot of countries in NATO, specifically Germany and France, voted in favor of Russia against the United States
as a not-so-subtle way of saying "Back off on the Brinksmanship, Bonerheads."