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NASA Scientist Warns "California Has One Year Of Water Left"

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Authored by NASA Senior Water Scientist Jay Famiglietti, originally posted Op-Ed at The LA Times,

Given the historic low temperatures and snowfalls that pummeled the eastern U.S. this winter, it might be easy to overlook how devastating California's winter was as well.

As our “wet” season draws to a close, it is clear that the paltry rain and snowfall have done almost nothing to alleviate epic drought conditions. January was the driest in California since record-keeping began in 1895. Groundwater and snowpack levels are at all-time lows. We're not just up a creek without a paddle in California, we're losing the creek too.

Data from NASA satellites show that the total amount of water stored in the Sacramento and San Joaquin river basins — that is, all of the snow, river and reservoir water, water in soils and groundwater combined — was 34 million acre-feet below normal in 2014. That loss is nearly 1.5 times the capacity of Lake Mead, America's largest reservoir.

Statewide, we've been dropping more than 12 million acre-feet of total water yearly since 2011. Roughly two-thirds of these losses are attributable to groundwater pumping for agricultural irrigation in the Central Valley. Farmers have little choice but to pump more groundwater during droughts, especially when their surface water allocations have been slashed 80% to 100%. But these pumping rates are excessive and unsustainable. Wells are running dry. In some areas of the Central Valley, the land is sinking by one foot or more per year.

As difficult as it may be to face, the simple fact is that California is running out of water — and the problem started before our current drought. NASA data reveal that total water storage in California has been in steady decline since at least 2002, when satellite-based monitoring began, although groundwater depletion has been going on since the early 20th century.

Right now the state has only about one year of water supply left in its reservoirs, and our strategic backup supply, groundwater, is rapidly disappearing. California has no contingency plan for a persistent drought like this one (let alone a 20-plus-year mega-drought), except, apparently, staying in emergency mode and praying for rain.

In short, we have no paddle to navigate this crisis.

Several steps need be taken right now.

First, immediate mandatory water rationing should be authorized across all of the state's water sectors, from domestic and municipal through agricultural and industrial. The Metropolitan Water District of Southern California is already considering water rationing by the summer unless conditions improve. There is no need for the rest of the state to hesitate. The public is ready. A recent Field Poll showed that 94% of Californians surveyed believe that the drought is serious, and that one-third support mandatory rationing.

 

Second, the implementation of the Sustainable Groundwater Management Act of 2014 should be accelerated. The law requires the formation of numerous, regional groundwater sustainability agencies by 2017. Then each agency must adopt a plan by 2022 and “achieve sustainability” 20 years after that. At that pace, it will be nearly 30 years before we even know what is working. By then, there may be no groundwater left to sustain.

 

Third, the state needs a task force of thought leaders that starts, right now, brainstorming to lay the groundwork for long-term water management strategies. Although several state task forces have been formed in response to the drought, none is focused on solving the long-term needs of a drought-prone, perennially water-stressed California.

Our state's water management is complex, but the technology and expertise exist to handle this harrowing future. It will require major changes in policy and infrastructure that could take decades to identify and act upon. Today, not tomorrow, is the time to begin.

Finally, the public must take ownership of this issue. This crisis belongs to all of us — not just to a handful of decision-makers. Water is our most important, commonly owned resource, but the public remains detached from discussions and decisions.

This process works just fine when water is in abundance. In times of crisis, however, we must demand that planning for California's water security be an honest, transparent and forward-looking process. Most important, we must make sure that there is in fact a plan.

Call me old-fashioned, but I'd like to live in a state that has a paddle so that it might also still have a creek.

 

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Fri, 03/13/2015 - 12:51 | 5885596 Greenskeeper_Carl
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I/m sure all the hollywood liberals will gladly stop filling up their swimming pools and watering their lawns and gardens to help share the burden with the plebs..... better get ready for some food items to get a lot more expensive.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 12:54 | 5885609 Headbanger
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WTF!?

They have an ocean right next to em!

So it's a little salty.

What difference  does it make!?

DUHHH!!

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 12:58 | 5885633 Bastiat
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Delsal plants might be a better use of money than high speed rail, ya think?

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:06 | 5885664 El Vaquero
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Killing off golf courses and other shit that is not necessary and moving to more drought tolerant crops while paying attention to keeping their soil healthy and how dry farmers do things would probably do a lot for them.

 

But that doesn't fit into the business model of large agricultural companies, so it won't happen.  They will reap what they have sown, and it looks like they won't be sowing much at all. 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:09 | 5885684 poor fella
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Nonsense! There's ground water everywhere - the way I see new drilling rigs popping up and hundreds if not thousands of acres of new almonds - there HAS to be, right?

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:09 | 5885687 JoeSexPack
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Wake me when rice paddies go dry & illegals get deported.

 

Ag uses over 80% of water here in CA, because they pay discounted rates.

 

Charge them market rates & this stops.

 

Maybe pay rice & cotton farmers to switch to tree crops, with drip irrigation.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:14 | 5885711 El Vaquero
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Seriously, they could bring tepary beans back.  Indians dry farm them in the Sonoran desert.  Water them once ever two or three weeks and you get a shitload of yield from them, and I like them better than other dry beans.  I also have melons that I watered once during the month of July last year, and we got about 2" or rain during that month.  They still started to split when it was time to harvest.  They could use a lot less water just by changing their practices and using crops that are adapted to the southwest.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:28 | 5885774 boattrash
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Anybody ever hear of Geoff Lawton, and Permaculture?
Here's a video link, longer than most will watch (37 min) but it can be done in your own back yard, or on a large scale.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1rKDXuZ8C0   "Greening the Desert"

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:40 | 5885844 Publicus
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California can vote to join Mexico for the water.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:44 | 5885869 OceanX
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The U.S. has a dozen aircraft carriers, a couple of those have enough power to make lots of water!

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:57 | 5885970 NoDebt
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IT'S A FUCKING DESERT, OK?  That's what deserts do- be dry.  20 year "mega-drought"?  It could go on for 200 years in that area of the country and it wouldn't be without historical precedent.  And you know what that area of the country will be even after this drought finally breaks?  IT WILL STILL BE A FUCKING DESERT.

 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 14:33 | 5886179 benb
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Wrong! The preeminent cause for the drought is that weather weapons are being used against us most especially in California. I am here, and a California native and what is going on is total bullshit. There are droughts and there are phony bullshit droughts like the one going on right now. In almost every case as a weather system approaches and rainfall is predicted about three to four days in advance of the precipitation, the CIA/AF tankers flying in the stratosphere spray the hell out of us with the aluminum oxide, barium salts and god knows what other toxic shit. By the predicted day we either receive next to nothing, or nothing at all.

Rain was predicted for the weeks end. It was so heavy yesterday the suspended chemicals made a haze/fog partially obscuring the mountains all around. When I listen to the fucking brainless tripe comments being posted over and over on Z/H referencing “historical droughts” or ‘NASA says’ it’s enough to make a sane person puke. NASA is one of the lying, criminal institutions running the weather war against the people. I’m nauseated to hear some of the nice people hear quoting ‘facts’ from CIA controlled propaganda fronts like National Geographic or Time Magazine to support their ignorance.

This Agenda 21 human extermination program has been running strong for at least 12 or 14 years now. When half the adult population out there is so stupid they don’t even know what the sky is supposed to look like or too cowardly to face up to what’s going on then… it’s just about over.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 14:49 | 5886252 benb
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When I see some of the ignoramus comments being made on this issue every time it comes up, ( and I'm referring to most every comment starting with the greensskeeper fool) the value of these comments threads goes down the toilet. People here understand the markets are rigged but apparently are too big a hicks to understand that the weather is rigged as well.

Suggestion- instead of blurting out comments, talking out your asses, go read up on weather modification. read about Ben Livingston, the Father of Weather Weapons. Read about the US AF controlling the Weather by 2025.

Let the man tell you how stupid you are.

“We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”
– William Casey, CIA Director (from first staff meeting, 1981)

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 15:34 | 5886463 Herd Redirectio...
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Blame Canada!  Blame Canada!

Or jet stream manipulation...

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 15:44 | 5886522 waterwitch
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For anybody that cares:  http://ca.water.usgs.gov/data/drought/

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 16:04 | 5886580 macholatte
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I think it's interesting that there is a "blame the farmers" tone to the water problem. 

 

People don't want their lives fixed. Nobody wants their problems solved. Their dramas. Their distractions. Their stories resolved. Their mess cleaned up. Because what would they have left? Just the big scary unknown.

Chuck Palahniuk


Fri, 03/13/2015 - 18:31 | 5887137 nmewn
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How bout a little perspective on what southern California is and many parts of the west are:

"But ancient clues in the landscape show this is not the first time the American West has been severely parched. It's unlikely to be the last. And the recent spate of dry years is nothing next to the ancient "megadroughts" that have occurred multiple times in human history. "What research shows is a roughly 50- to 90-year cycle of wet and dry periods over the last few thousand years, with some droughts lasting over a decade. But between 900 and 1400 A.D., during the 'Medieval Warm Period,' there were a couple of droughts that were over a century long," said B. Lynn Ingram, professor of Earth and planetary science and geography at the University of California, Berkeley, and co-author of the book The West Without Water: What Past Floods, Droughts, and Other Climatic Clues Tell Us About Tomorrow.

"The 20th century was a relatively wet time, and a time when all of our modern societies were built," she said. "We've had centuries where it was far drier. We're not prepared."

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/02/140214-drought-california-prehistory-science-climate-san-francisco-2/

So what was the first clue that California recieves little precipitation among people who choose to live there? The tumbleweeds, the lack of trees without irrigation, wut? ;-)

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 19:05 | 5887227 Hulk
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The Jack Rabbits standing along the highway with tin cups extended  was my first clue !!!

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 19:15 | 5887254 Poundsand
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4. Sell your farm land in California NOW.

5. Invest in BNSF, because soon they will be paying to load all that water onto rail and ship it to California.  In Oregon, the Columbia River dumps over 260,000 cu ft/s into the ocean.  I am sure that the we can make some type of arrangement.  I am sure that Warren is right now securing the rights to load that water up into rail cars as both states have democrat Govs.

 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 19:15 | 5887255 Poundsand
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4. Sell your farm land in California NOW.

5. Invest in BNSF, because soon they will be paying to load all that water onto rail and ship it to California.  In Oregon, the Columbia River dumps over 260,000 cu ft/s into the ocean.  I am sure that the we can make some type of arrangement.  I am sure that Warren is right now securing the rights to load that water up into rail cars as both states have democrat Govs.

 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 23:33 | 5887904 Citxmech
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Great - water with some "Hanford surprise" in it.  Yum.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 21:16 | 5887589 bonin006
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Isn't anybody going to blame Putin?

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 22:30 | 5887780 Miffed Microbio...
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If this drought is so catastrophic why do they keep building homes?

Somehow there is an implicit belief the the water will always flow no matter what. It's a right doncha know and Jah will provide.

Miffed

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 15:42 | 5886512 Jtrillian
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A few comments on your post. 

When you make personal attacks instead of argue facts, then you make yourself look like a fool. 

Correlation is not causality.  Until someone can prove that planes are spraying chemicals in the air, then the aluminum/barium/strontium could be from another source.  It's not hard to get in a plane and take an air sample after the so called chem trails are spotted.  Why has this not been done? 

Where are the lab samples that prove beyond a resonable doubt that aluminum is being sprayed?  I have searched and while I find lots of references to such studies on conspiracy sites, I have not found any verifiable studies on this subject. 

Finally, QUESTION EVERYTHING.  It seems to be human nature (for at least some of us) to assume some sort of global conspiracy with regard to every single black swan event (false flag) and everything that happens to main street is part of the plan of the illumaniti.  The problem with this thinking is that it is lacking in rational thought, plays on people's emotions, is backed by pseudo science, and most importantly, lacks the facts to back it. 

Having said all this, I do not deny something could be happening.  But the proof is lacking.  Many real problems today start out as conspiracies and slowly the truth comes to light.  The key is to be able tell to the truth from the lies.  And until I see the evidence that something is intentionally being done, then it is nothing more than hate filled paranoia and self fulfilling prophecy, both of which are rampant in this country. 

Those with critical thinking skills and rational minds have the evolutionary edge.  The rest are apathetic sheep and emotional/irrational thinkers... both of which will be led to the slaughter. 

Just my to cents. 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 15:54 | 5886546 gonetogalt
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I didn't down vote you, but just a bit of open-minded observation, or a short time using a non-MSM search engine blows your shit completely away...the evidence is compelling.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 17:25 | 5886935 TBT or not TBT
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Post it then, or link it.  

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 17:25 | 5886937 weburke
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silly me,  I thought NASA stood for =never a straight answer=. 

 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 15:57 | 5886553 pods
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I used to "believe" in the whole chemtrails thing. By saying chemtrails, I mean the deliberate spraying of materials into the air.  

It is easy to spot a plane in the sky with a trail behind it. That is when you notice them and it reinforces your belief.  
I started watching these patterns and lo and behold, the grid lines seemed to follow the winds and normal travel lanes. So one plane goes by and a trail is laid, then gets moved by the wind. Another comes by and another is formed. Makes lines. Seems like a pattern.

But, these planes are always going up and down those lanes. Sometimes the trails persist, sometimes they don't.  I have now come to the realization that these planes are always flying by, only sometimes do the trails persist.

Persistent contrails might be a goal, or it might just be a natural occurrence due to many conditions (pressure, humidity, etc).

I don't mind if people believe in chemtrail spraying or not, just like I don't care if people believe in Global Warming. It is a belief.  When they state them as facts, well, then there better be some supporting information about them, not conjecture.  It is not that difficult. You spot a plane in one area "spraying", check to see if commercial flights match up, and move from there.  

It could be many collaborating effects that cause these contrails to persist. Deliberate spraying seems to be way down the list of possibles though.

pods

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 16:21 | 5886656 buyingsterling
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Contrails didn't behave this way a few decades ago.

Probably related; why in the hell is the sun bright white now? It had a distinctively yellow tinge when I was a kid.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 16:41 | 5886731 pods
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I never noticed them behaving this way either. Of course, I was a kid and never gave a crap.

Still does not mean they are spraying. Could be improved efficiency of jets?  Fuel additive?  Additive removed?

I am not saying contrails do not persist on some days, that is clear.  What I am saying is that if you say they are spraying, you have to show proof.

Yellow tinge could have been airborne particulates filtering out higher energy waves (blue) and leaving more or an autumn or evening sun appearance.

pods

Edit:

Here is a link I found that has pics from way back when of hazy skies or persistent contrails.

http://contrailscience.com/hazy-memories-of-blue-skies/

 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 16:50 | 5886772 Buckaroo Banzai
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Meh. Looks like a disinformation site. Any jackass who has used Photoshop for longer than a few hours can scan some old photos and fuck with them.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 17:08 | 5886882 pods
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Could be. A quick google of WWII photos shows persistent contrails though.

Are they ALL faked?  

pods

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 17:19 | 5886913 giggler321
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They are always on about follow the money - surely one could just follow the strontium mines or what not since someone has to supply this stuff and thus inventories exist

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 16:42 | 5886763 Buckaroo Banzai
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Anybody older than 35 who liked to watch airplanes as a little kid knows that contrails changed dramatically sometime in the late 20th century. There simply is no comparison.

Mon, 03/16/2015 - 15:02 | 5895046 sleepingbeauty
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Ummmm, no. Maybe others noticed but not my hubby. His dad was an RCAF pilot and so he was obsessed with airplanes. He has not noticed a major change of contrails. 

He said that they seem more permanent on hot days and he thought there might be a study saying that they could be the seeds of rainclouds. 

I don't know squat about this issue but your statement is wrong in my husband's case.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 16:49 | 5886793 SilverDOG
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buyingsterling

 

 

Same memory.

I mean implant, but same here.

 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 21:08 | 5887566 MEAN BUSINESS
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pods, you say " I don't care if people believe in Global Warming. It is a belief.  When they state them as facts, well, then there better be some supporting information about them, not conjecture. "

yet presented with the IPCC AR5 which; took over 5 years to produce, was based on some 30,000+ published science papers, and received over 150,000 professional comments (not blogosphere type comments)

you reject it out of hand because...

"UN LULZ"

So humanity's best effort to provide supporting evidence for something that could possibly be leading to the 6th mass extinction (chemtrails/haarp is THE MOST FEARSOME TOPIC EVER FOR EVERY LIFE FORM ON THE PLANET!!!!!!!! - youtube) isn't worth the time of day to you? What, because Pachauri? Himilayan glaciers? emails? Unicef? Rawanda? Democrats? Elon Musk?

Well there won't be any better information available that policy makers can use before meeting in Paris this December. Well, maybe. Let's see what happens with the Arctic ice cap this summer.

Here's what I believe. At the first hint of Paris going the way Copenhagen did (thanks Hitlery!), certain parties are going to walk out and never come back to the UN. It will become UNINO.

Radical Marijuana provides a good description of what to expect in a UNINO world.

 

ALL ROADS LEAD TO PARIS



Fri, 03/13/2015 - 16:01 | 5886574 benb
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Just a response to your post. Did you read up on weather modification? Read about Ben Livingston, the Father of Weather Weapons? Or read about the US AF controlling the Weather by 2025?

Because If you did not you are just blowing smoke up your own ass as well. No matter how polite or civilized your demeanor.

This same nonsense goes on and on with regard to this very serious subject time after time  on Z/H with the people thinking they are being sensible without ever researching or doing any sort of due diligence.

So I will not apologize for ripping on these lazy fucking slackers who by swallowing the propaganda have become part of the shield protecting the very pernicious forces which are destroying humanity.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 21:35 | 5887631 conscious being
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benb - I had to scroll down through a lot of nonsense until I found someone adressing the obvious, that being you benb.

Pods, big disappointment. The programming is strong in the Homeland. Maybe you live in some remote place like Western Canada where the sky is not being painted white? I used to live in CA. I watched the sky change. I now live in SE Asia. Nothing lkke that going on here [yet?]

All these "thinking" sheeple act like someone lying on the ground having a hard time breathing. Why the problem breathing they wonder. Is their diet OK? Did they get enough exercise? They wonder. Are there genetic factors? They never address the obvious problem about the boot stomping on their face because its just too f'n scary.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 22:19 | 5887733 benb
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“…Pods, big disappointment. The programming is strong in the Homeland…”

Yes, Pods is one the most clever and funny commenters here as well as likeable. He gets special dispensation this one time. (But I was disappointed as well.) As far as the programming… yeah, that’s the damn holding us back. I have to ask how many of the ‘deniers’ here watch TV or do not understand that all major publications in the US are CIA controlled… or that the public school curriculum is designed to destroy a kid’s ability to think and be dependent on the state?...Or that 100 million people are already dead having been soft killed by the intentional spiking of the polio vaccines with the simian cancer virus SV-40 and are still dying at a rate of 1 ½ -2 million people a year from the government vaccine?...Or that most of the municipal water is spiked with chemicals to incrementally chemically castrate them? Maybe they wouldn’t think it was so funny if they listened to this interview with Edward Haslam - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ5-liXcXLI

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 16:52 | 5886728 BrosephStiglitz
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Chemtrails are real.  Lizardmen run the government and Justin Bieber is an Illuminati plant to pacify the sheeple.

If you think I am wrong, just go look at all the evidence on Youtube.  How can so many people be wrong?  Riddle me that? 

(/sarc) 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 21:41 | 5887649 conscious being
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Yeah, my idiot, kool-aid drinking East Coast brother used to say the same thing about the black helicopters, that can run close to silent, that CAMP used to stuff with goons and M16s to go after my freinds and neighbors. /^sarc

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 16:49 | 5886796 petkovplamen
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QUESTION EVERYTHING huh? So RT IS correct then?

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 17:18 | 5886907 Implied Violins
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You want some proof? I'll give you some fucking proof.

I am a Biologist working in central California. I unfortunately can't say where, because the information I will provide here would get me ass-fired in a microsecond if it were traced back to me. Even then I can only give general information, as to give specifics could put me in JAIL. Fuck the fucking FUCKED whistleblower 'laws' all to HELL but I have to watch my ass.

Anyway: what I do is test river and wastewater for its effects on fish. For the last several years, my fish (fathead minnows) have been dying when exposed to a combination of river water (Sacramento River) and wastewater, when historically it wasn't so bad. It seems that something is scoring the fish's gills, and secondary infections are occurring where the original injury occurs.

Doing an internet search, I came to find an article that shows the pathology of fish that have been exposed to aluminum nanoparticles. Lo and behold, it matches the pathology of MY fish. So, I look at our data for metals testing (done for a separate program, but the same water samples are used).

What do I find? Spikes of aluminum, as high as the GRAMS PER LITER. There is no correlation to river flow volumes, and other metals tested at the same time (by ICP) don't show such a wide disparity either so whatever is putting it there is something not endemic to the river itself.

Looking further into this, I realized that the fish I test are analogous to the delta smelt, which is a big can of ass-rape for water diversion to the delta as water is being appropriated from farmers and us to supposedly keep these damn fish alive. Well, guess what: the last assay for these fish in the delta found only 22 fish total. So, the water being diverted isn't saving them at all...in fact, what is probably killing them is aluminum in the river water - because the same damn conditions that kill my fish in my tests exist in the river itself just south of our plant.

So, keep disbelieving, people. If anyone really wants to know the truth, go to Geoengineeringwatch.org and see some of Dane Wigington's videos. I am an absolute believer now. This shit is HAPPENING, and needs to be exposed...I would do more, but fuck if I'm ready to spend life in jail just for simply exposing the TRUTH.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 20:42 | 5887124 benb
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Glad you posted. Wiggington is a good guy but not 100%. That doesn’t mean you throw the baby out with the bathwater. There are some other good sites to look at as well.

The snow pack on Mt. Shasta as independently tested 6 years ago was over 40 times the allowable limit of aluminum. As I’m sure you know, from the city park in Shasta City, begins the headwaters for the Sacramento River. Tons of travelers used to stop at that location to fill up water containers for some of the cleanest water obtainable… not any more.

The Agenda 21 drought in my area (Northernmost CA) has caused terrible suffering in the wildlife. And along with years of intentional mismanagement last year, the worst forest fires on record, which were criminally exacerbated by USFS management. At one point USFS Law enforcement were arresting CAL-Fire guys (Who did a great job) to stop them for attempting to put out some of the fires. It was personally disturbing to see the wildlife retreating from the west of me for over a month especially when you knew specific managers at USFS were making it happen.

A lot of people up here are wise to the balony.

 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 20:00 | 5887389 RobD
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You wouldn't happen to be getting your samples south of where Hyw 32 crosses over the Sac River would you(Hamilton City)? The reason I ask is because that is where the biggest, most totally awesome river tubing used to be done(fucking no fun police have pretty much stopped it) and there must be a butt load of aluminum beer cans migrating south from there. Hell the beach were all the drinking was done was call Beer Can Beach I kid you not! Was normal for 100's of Cal State Chico students to tube that stretch of river every hot weekend all loaded with cases of beer(me and my friends dragged Kegs when we went, we were quite popular hehe) and most of those cans never made it out of the river. Just a data point you might want to look into.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 00:12 | 5887967 emersonreturn
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loved that you posted, thanks...my take away however is Long Live Snowden and all those that bravely take a stand. but thank you for coming this far....

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 02:21 | 5888104 Tall Tom
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I would do more, but fuck if I'm ready to spend life in jail just for simply exposing the TRUTH.

 

You can write it into a fictional work in order to circumvent disclosure laws.

 

This was done with the initial exposures of child rape as a form of torture being employed against terrorist suspect parents. They followed through by creating the film, "Unthinkable".

 

You can be clever about it.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 17:20 | 5886916 armageddon addahere
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NASA has been lying about Global Warming, Climate Change and issuing all kinds of weather disinfo for years.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 21:32 | 5887632 benb
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NASA has been lying about just about everything since its inception. Their top people are Globalist Eugenics shills. Half these commenters are so unsophisticated they can't even handle weather manipulation which is long established. If they were to be told "By an official source" just what was discovered on the moon alone you'd see a lot of thumb sucking and bed wetting around here...

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 11:15 | 5888676 bh2
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The geological record shows Southern California has suffered past deep droughts for hundreds of years at a time. It may be happening again. By nature, climate is rigged against long-term comfort for humans in any particular location. Humans therefore adapt. They will again. And once again, it probably won't be pretty in geographic areas most severely affected.

If that adaptation includes reduction of food production in California, then large-scale agriculture will simply migrate elsewhere, though not at trivial cost, and probably to somewhat more diversified locations (a good thing).

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 12:29 | 5888832 benb
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Your statement is based upon the same Globalist propaganda for the vegetable masses being parroted by numerous lazy, ignorant,  cowardly, brainwashed commenters. Unless the current weather modification/weather weapon program now in full swing is taken into account your comments are meaningless garbage based upon reading propaganda as National Geographic or  the CIA controlled LA Times article.

Read about State Department Memorandum 200, where Kissinger states "we," (meaning the ruling oligarchy) will use food as a weapon. which is essentially a reiteration of policy made by the Royal Institute Of International Affairs from 1947.

Or read this  - “‘Climatic warfare’ potentially threatens the future of humanity, but has casually been excluded from the reports for which the IPCC received the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize.”

http://www.globalresearch.ca/weather-warfare-beware-the-us-military-s-ex...

Or read about Agenda 21 which is what this is really about.

 

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:11 | 5888924 bh2
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Actually, it's based on commentary about what's been observed in the geological record which precedes the relatively brief and recent historical period. Here's a recap found in one local California paper:

http://www.mercurynews.com/science/ci_24993601/california-drought-past-d...

Whatever other machinations may be happening alongside would be largely irrelevant if climate were again cycling into yet another extended dry period like others which left evidence over the past several thousand years -- long, long before humans could have had any significant influence.

Occam's Razor usually serves as a more useful tool for critical thinking than elaborately constructed conspiracy theories.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:23 | 5889086 benb
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No Bh. You are wrong. - I voted you down and I’ll tell you why.

One cannot solve a problem if you don’t know what the problem is to begin with. Even Ron Paul as of 6 months ago stated that the CIA was running the country.

Here’s a couple of jewels from top CIA criminals –

“The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media.”
– William Colby, former CIA director

“Deception is a state of mind and the mind of the State.”
– James Angleton, head of CIA counter intelligence from 1954-1974

These people aren’t kidding. Colby is saying that every mainstream media information you read, hear, or watch conforms to CIA policy. Former director William Casey bragged that the CIA’s job wouldn’t be done until everything the American people know is wrong.

Of course the aerosol spraying is a criminal conspiracy. And it was the CIA after blowing Kennedy’s head off that had all their media whores ridicule as “conspiracy theorists” anyone who questioned their criminal lies. And, this policy has worked for many years.

You have been lied to by the state, (Which is just a front for the ruling Oligarchy) your entire life. The truth is when you are shown the truth you are blinded by your conditioning.

Bh, like so many of these other unfortunate creatures you are trapped in the propaganda matrix and know not how to get out. Below is a quote from over 60 years ago that applies to half the people commenting on this subject and it most certainly applies to you. What Bertrand Russell is saying has come to pass –

“Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.” – The Impact of Science on Society (1953) by Bertrand Russell, p.50

 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 14:51 | 5886263 OceanX
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I think you've been out in the sun too long...

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 15:07 | 5886351 benb
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I don't think you know your ass from 3rd base.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 15:39 | 5886489 TBT or not TBT
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It is awfully close to home plate, in the baseball analogy.  

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 18:00 | 5887044 benb
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Well you've been around... you know how heated up these things can get. This topic is so important I decided not to take any guff this time.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 22:42 | 5887718 conscious being
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So benb, the important question to me is - Why are they doing it? It looks to me like these particles catch sunlight and heat up the local atmosphere, creating a high pressure ridge along the CA coast, that drives the jet stream north. Subsequent effects include drying out CA, poisoning CA and changing the jet stream to something like a sine curve that spikes up towards Alaska, warming up the Artic, it then plunges into the mid-West and E. Coast as the so called Polar Votex.

 

Is it about killing off CA? Killing off CA agriculture? Is it about moving the jet stream? All of the above? To what end? Inquiring minds want to know.

Edit - maybe they need the modern equivalent to the Dust Bowl to off load some blame for the coming collapse?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:15 | 5888425 nmewn
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lol...good grief.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 15:42 | 5886511 Cadavre
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I started a new venture, "Instant Water, LLC". My product is instant water packets about the size of of a sugar packet at the convience store's coffee kiosk.

All ya do is open the packet of my "Instant Water:, and just add, depending on how "strong: your like your water, 6 to 10 oz of water.

Was trying to come up with a catch phrase for the sham wow guy to pitch it with, something like, "Instant Water Is So Simple a Child Could Do It .... Just Add Water".

Franchises are available. Please call 1-800-IBIDIOT

Say "Just add water" and receive a free sample of "Instant Water" (just pay handling and shipping)

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 16:59 | 5886840 WTFMOFO
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Could you please go over that again below this post so I make sure I catch the number to call this time?

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 15:42 | 5886513 Cadavre
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I started a new venture, "Instant Water, LLC". My product is instant water packets about the size of of a sugar packet at the convience store's coffee kiosk.

All ya do is open the packet of my "Instant Water:, and just add, depending on how "strong: your like your water, 6 to 10 oz of water.

Was trying to come up with a catch phrase for the sham wow guy to pitch it with, something like, "Instant Water Is So Simple a Child Could Do It .... Just Add Water".

Franchises are available. Please call 1-800-IBIDIOT

Say "Just add water" and receive a free sample of "Instant Water" (just pay handling and shipping)

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 21:09 | 5886886 benb
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OceanX - Did you read up on weather modification? Read about Ben Livingston, the Father of Weather Weapons? Or read about the US AF white paper Controlling the Weather by 2025 as referenced in my post before you gave your 'insight' ?

Are you familiar with -

“HAARP is a weapon of mass destruction, capable of destabilising agricultural and ecological systems globally.”

http://www.globalresearch.ca/weather-warfare-beware-the-us-military-s-ex...

 

The reason I ask is although there are a lot of people commenting here that know the score or want to find out what is going on there are, unfortuneatlely, a contigent of shallow or misinformed individuals who mistakenly feel clever in taking cheap shots out of ignorance.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 18:10 | 5889132 OceanX
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I read, "Beyond The 100th Meridian" and am reading "Cadilac Deeert"  water scarcity in the south west, L.A. basin predates the United States... 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 15:09 | 5886363 JRobby
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What is their plan? Push up food prices?

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 15:45 | 5886525 benb
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As I understand the situation the objectives are among other things -to drive people out of the rural areas into the Agenda 21 stack and pack mega-cities.

To bankrupt and buy out all the major ranchers and farmers in selected areas which of course will raise food prices.

Employing weather weapons to create artificial drought is a major tool along with burying commerce in over regulation.

I have a report from a phony (private) environmentalist meeting in Sacramento in which Governor Brown told the little foundation funded UN jihadis that he was going to drive the ranchers and farmers out of business.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 22:21 | 5887749 conscious being
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China was doing this in Tibet when I was there years ago. Appartments blocks were built along the highway and people in the valleys above were driven out of their villages and traditional culture to live the new and improved life in a cement box by the road.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 17:35 | 5886971 TBT or not TBT
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Brown is a despicable tool but he and his party have a severe funding problem.  I can see the Sacramento politburo nuking cattle ranching, to hell with the fire protection provided by grazing, but agriculture produces too much $$$   And then what would their illiterate hordes of future voters from down south do?  More budget problems, once again.   Bankruptcy means writing down promises to the public sector unions upon which the single party machine depends to keep power and perks.   

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 00:19 | 5886700 benb
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Here is the UN Biodiversity map presently being implemented - http://americanbuilt.us/images/maps/UN-A21-biodiversity-map.jpg

The red areas are where they plan to drive the people out completely.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 19:11 | 5887242 August
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The Plan is no less than to end intelligent life in California.

A chilling prospect, indeed.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 20:11 | 5887419 RobD
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Heh, mission accomplished for Sacramento, no intelligent life in that city.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 16:13 | 5886624 long-shorty
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I just love that this batshit crazy weather weapons comment has more green than red, at least for now. Stay crazy, Zerohedge!

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 16:46 | 5886781 benb
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“HAARP is a weapon of mass destruction, capable of destabilising agricultural and ecological systems globally.”

“‘Climatic warfare’ potentially threatens the future of humanity, but has casually been excluded from the reports for which the IPCC received the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize.”

http://www.globalresearch.ca/weather-warfare-beware-the-us-military-s-ex...

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 16:36 | 5886734 daveO
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'I’m nauseated to hear some of the nice people hear quoting ‘facts’ from CIA controlled propaganda fronts like National Geographic or Time Magazine to support their ignorance.'

Yea, me too. That's why avoid those places.  Whatever Time says comes right out Goebbels' Ministry of Propaganda. Even if they aren't trying to kill people, they (corporate farmers via the USDA)  still have plenty of motive to drive up prices.
Fri, 03/13/2015 - 21:50 | 5887666 Againstthelie
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This Agenda 21 human extermination program has been running strong for at least 12 or 14 years now.

With such comments poeple like you are supporting TPTB, because you make the sheeple turn away.

Fact is, it is not known who is behind this. But the spraying is fact. Also in Europe. But either you want to make the sheeple look into the sky, open their eyes and start writing to their politicians and filming with their zoom-cameras, or you can just continue to write about your theory as fact. That's the best way, that they will keep their minds shut down and not listen to you. You are discrediting the chemtrail investigation.

 

What in the world are they spraying?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFQ2_0QNiks

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:38 | 5887946 benb
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Griffin's film is a good suggestion. Maybe some people will watch the youtube.

As far as  - "...Fact is, it is not known who is behind this."

That statement is incorrect. We do know who is behind this. In the US it is a government program with USAF, CIA, NASA, NSF, DAARPA, involvement. The US government is run by the Ruling Oligarchy principally emanating from the City Of London, Wall Street, the various American mafias, The British and Dutch Crowns along with German Royalty and Italian Kingpins. The  Bilderburgers make the big decisions on the global tyranny including the selection of the US puppet president.  The Council on Foreign Relations and Trilateral Commission members surround every president and administer the country akin to WWII Vichy France.

"...because you make the sheeple turn away." ATL, deniers might not like that label either. Fact is the extermination program is in swing and as they say - All aboard who's coming aboard.

Read Sun Micro Systems co-founder Bill Joy's 1999 wired magazine article entitled - Why the Future Doesn't need us."

The plan is to kill just about everybody, which I would say qualifies as an extermination program.

http://archive.wired.com/wired/archive/8.04/joy_pr.html


Sat, 03/14/2015 - 11:27 | 5888694 Againstthelie
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You don't get it. You confuse believe with knowledge. Knowledge is based on HARD FACTS and EVIDENCES. Citations and hearsay are no replacement for tens or hundreds documented and identified planes with tanks, flightplans, identified coordinators, supplying companies, logistic, etc.

This topic is too important as it should be discredited with religious enthusiasm. It must be discussed in a factual based way and it can only be brought forward by DEMANDING ANSWERS, instead to claim to know everything.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 19:44 | 5887348 nuubee
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Very Wrong No Debt.

 

South and East California indeed has lots of desert.

The central valley is not a desert.

The middle-coast is not a desert.

Northern California is not a desert.

I'd wager less than 30% of California could be classified as "desert". The rest has a lot that grows naturally. But instead of growing what grows naturally... California Ag has embedded themselves in all levels of government, and as a result the entire industry just abuses the states water supply to the detriment of just about everyone else.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 20:20 | 5887442 RobD
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Spot on nuubee, grew up in the Chico area, water everywhere, sometimes too much, almost got flooded out a few times in my little home town of Hamilton City. Way back before the dams and leaves were put in the Sacramento River flooded the valley most every year(would have flooded this year too believe it or not) but now a lot of that water is used for fish hugging(delta smelt fricking bait fish). Lived through the 70's drought, looked pretty much like this one and then the it rained and rained and rained and the lakes were full again.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:58 | 5885976 Four chan
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growing rice in an arid zone has got to be the stupidest thing i've ever heard of in this drought.

with all of vegas coming in second.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 14:02 | 5886007 maskone909
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maybe the NSA could be so kind as to divert that 100million gallons of h20 per day down here to snapcard land

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 14:11 | 5886067 sodbuster
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Ever notice when TSHTF, and their back is against the wall, then it's OK to pray??!!

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 19:46 | 5889874 amadeus39
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iT's NEVER "OK" to pray. Prayer is a useless, wasteful and delusional activity. It is a form of surrender to the irrational. Never give up. Humans are at their best when things are at their very worst. We are problem solving entities. Prayer solves nothing.

 

Mon, 03/16/2015 - 15:14 | 5895098 sleepingbeauty
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I'll pray for ya.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 16:49 | 5886797 BrosephStiglitz
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Not quite THE stupidest thing..   I've seen a massive, open-air waterpark in the middle of nowhere in the desert.  It remains open in 122 deg. Fahrenheit temperatures (50 degrees Celcius).  

I am not kidding when I say it is remote. The water has to be replenished by tanker.

But yes.. rice growing in the desert is going full retard, I agree. 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 17:52 | 5887012 TBT or not TBT
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The part of the desert you grow rice in is a marsh.  The kind of place where water will sit around for big stretches of the year.  I guess you could wet-vac the whole thing but the EPA wetlands police might ruin your life.  

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 16:41 | 5886761 dougie
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They already make water...for themselves.  It takes a lot of fresh water to run a 1/4 mile long ship displacing 100,000 tons with a crew of 5,000 and several propulsion and generating power plants.  I don't think they have a lot of excess capacity.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 17:00 | 5886845 BrosephStiglitz
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Pretty energy (and hence cost) intensive, I believe. Not sure what systems those ships have, but I'll take a gander at reverse osmosis (RO) plants.  High positive pressure is needed to separate the water from the solutes/impurities against the osmotic gradient. 

Also includes high-rated stainless steel housing and piping (mostly), powerful pumps, replaceable membranes, remineralization, chemicals etc etc.

It's an expensive and technically demanding way to purify water.  Mother nature can do (a lot of) the heavy lifting, if you're utilising the natural resources around you effectively.

Apparently Californians are not. 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:55 | 5885954 Government need...
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Cuz nobody ever got the shits from drinking Mexican cenote-water.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:44 | 5885876 DJ Happy Ending
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This guy may be right but I have a hard time trusting anything NASA scientists say with their habit of politicizing science, for example global warming and Charles Bolden saying Muslim outreach was one of his foremost tasks.

I didn't know any of this had anything to do with "Aeronautics and Space" but maybe I'm wrong.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:56 | 5885964 zhandax
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True; I might get more excited about a foreign winery play if I were not so skeptical of alarmist scientific headlines.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 14:09 | 5886052 El Vaquero
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The Colorado river rarely actually makes it to the ocean anymore because we use all of the water from that river.  There is a serious water problem in the southwest. 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 14:33 | 5886177 maskone909
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agreed el VaQ.

saw it first hand, not like brian williams, but i actually went to lake tahoe- nothern cali.  the place is fucked.  trees dead, lakes water levels low as shit.  its bad.

but nasa? 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 17:34 | 5886969 mkkby
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Yep, everyone has known for decades that it is bad.  However, nothing will change until they waste the last drop.

They'll keep wasting it in a million stupid ways becuse each one has a powerful business interest.  Buiding more houses and luring people to move there.  Pouring water on golf courses and rice paddys.

Will we laugh or be sympathetic when all those LA people are stuck with crap shack houses they paid $1 million for?

 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 15:27 | 5886338 JRobby
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Good to be upstream on the Colorado. Over use of this basin's water has been warned of for decades.

 

http://users.humboldt.edu/ogayle/hist383/WaterProblems.html

 

Pretty dire situation actually

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 14:11 | 5886064 Five8Charlie
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Spot on. NASA has been a political animal since day one.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 15:40 | 5886494 Real Estate Geek
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In the '60's I heard it described as a missile program with a Space hobby.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 15:05 | 5886339 Chauncey Gardener
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Muslim outreach--like helping Iran develop
ICBM's to deliver their nukes?

On second thought, ISIS seems very fond
of the seventh century. So, isn't an Islamic space
program kind of an oxymoron?

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 16:45 | 5886775 dougie
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Ah, I was wondering how long it would take for the phrase "climate change" to come up.  I mean, with the blindingly obvious connection and all.

Now, how long will it take for ZH commenters to understand that anthropogenic climate change is real and is very serious?  

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 16:56 | 5886821 daveO
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If you question the moon landings, you're called 'bat shit crazy'. Yet, people were doing it long before the internet! Even Bill Clinton questioned it in his autobiography. So, (gov.?) guys come on here and call you the same thing for a lot less. NASA is clearly part of the Ministry of Propaganda. They think their tactics, that worked 40+ years ago, will still work on a cynical public.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 18:07 | 5887060 drendebe10
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WTF is a space agency doing with "muslim outreach"???   WTF???  Getting muslims to sell NASA sand for rocket propulsion??? 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 22:32 | 5887784 conscious being
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Understand that they are part of the propaganda machine and "Muslim outreach" makes more sense.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:47 | 5885897 El Vaquero
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More than one way to skin a cat.  Geoff Lawton's stuff is pretty cool, and if I were given a free hand, I would be putting swales in and planting Mesquite to get the process started in a few places.  Mesquite is a leguminous bush/tree and its beans are edible.  Its roots also go down insanely deep (150+ feet) to ensure that they have enough water and to pull nutrients up. 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 14:50 | 5886256 still kicking
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great wood for smoking as well but the fucking thorns on those things are ungodly!  I spent several years of my youth in south texas and hiked many many miles through mesquite forest hunting javalenas, good times, minus the thorns.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 15:31 | 5886453 El Vaquero
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Those thorns have an irritant on them too.  They're nasty pieces of work, that's for sure.  I think we probably have a different species of Mesquite out here, though it still has the thorns. 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 15:43 | 5886515 Real Estate Geek
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Cholla cacti are right up there with mesquite in the thorns department.  Plus, it's almost like they jump at you; seriously.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 16:00 | 5886570 El Vaquero
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This is true.  And those needles are slick enough that if you really get one buried in you, they can be a bitch to pull out. 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 14:51 | 5886266 hibou-Owl
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I'm a farmer in central France after spending 25 years in Oz. we are lucky here the springs run year round, and water from our well is unbelievable.

I have been experimenting with cultivating charcoal into the soil, and the moisture retention is significantly increased. Also interplanting maize with three sisters this year. I'll need to harvest pumpkins by hand, then harvester can get the beans & corn.
This method is known for retaining moisture, and reducing fertiliser requirements.

Hope it works, but doing the same thing expecting different results!!!,
Real Dumb!

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 15:26 | 5886429 El Vaquero
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Squash bugs are a big problem out here, and I did three sisters last year.  I had the normal squash bug problems with my summer squash 100' away from the three sisters plot, and the three sisters plot did not have squash bug problems.  I think that I found 5-10 squash bugs all year on that plot, and there were no obvious signs, such as wilting, of an infestation. My understanding of why this is supposed to work is that the squash bugs come in, land on corn, land on beans, etc... don't find the squash right away and then fly off to greener pastures.  I'm not really sure if that is happening, but whatever the reason, it works.

 

To put it mildly, I'm a fan of companion planting now.  It'll probably take a couple of years for me to get it worked out, but I'm going to be putting things in companion blocks that I can just rotate the whole block from year to year with a lot of things.  Obviously, there will be corn, beans and squash, but this year I will also be incorporating chile, alliums (onions, leeks, etc...) and okra into another block. 

 

I'm also moving towards equidistant planting for a lot of things to make better use of the square footage.  You plant the crops in a hexagonal pattern.  It's probably not compatible with most harvesters, but if space for roots and sunshine are important, this should allow more complete use of the land.  If you decide that you want to experiment with it, here is how you set it up:

 

Let R be the row spacing, E be the equidistant space desired (i.e. the closest any two plants will be to each other,) and P be the plant spacing within the row.  Your row spacing will be E/2, so for 12 inch eqidistant spacing, your rows will be 6 inches apart, with staggered planting from row to row.  P will be 2*E*cos(30) or 1.73E.  (You might as well just round that to 1.75E for simplicity's sake.)  For 12" plant equidistant spacing, the distance between plants within a single row would be 21", for example. 

 

Now, say you plant your first plant in your first row at 0" from the edge of your plot, the 2nd row would have first plant at E*cos(30), or .866E (might as well round it to .875 or 7/8) from the edge of the plot.  For 12" equidistant spacing, it will be about 10.5" inches, for example.  This way, neighboring rows have the plants staggered with each other.  This way, plants should hypothetically not be in competition with the neighbors within a row.  It's probably not ideal for mechanical harvesting, but it should be better for the plants. 

 

Sorry if the explination is hard to follow, this is one of those cases where a picture would be worth several thousand words.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 23:21 | 5887878 Real Estate Geek
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A farmer.  In central France.  With good water.

Hey, I'm sure that you shovel a lot of shit and work your ass off, but that sounds really fucking great!  Santé, monsieur! 

BTW, don't listen to the chowder-heads here who mock the French.  Lots of us know of and still appreciate France's help in the American Revolution.

 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 15:20 | 5886406 55 men
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Thank you Boat for bringing this up.....taking his course now....it is absolutely amazing what can happen when just cutting into the landscape a certain way can do .

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:32 | 5885803 cigarEngineer
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If you have sun, you have water. http://waterfx.co/

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:16 | 5885718 Headbanger
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With this big drought, California gets infested with these critters next to take care of those golfers and illegals and loud neighbors too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwbFwVf8yoE

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 14:43 | 5886227 Luxy
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Ag uses 80% of all human usage, not 80% of all usage.  50% of all usage is "Environmental."   http://www.ppic.org/main/publication_show.asp?i=1108

Lots of different rates paid by Ag users based on which type of water rights they have.  Riparian (we got here first and bought the land that has the water on it), prescriptive (old timey squatter rights almost none exist) and appropriative (state hands out and divides what they can take).

40 years ago California's population was half of what it is now and there was the same amount of agriculture.  What has changed is the environmentalists flushing our water out through the Hiv bay, which stops us from recharging our aquifers.  You no-good-consumer-city-drone-hipster-iHole-sissies let the environmentalists talk you into flushing the water we need out in the bay to an ocean that doesn't need our water!!!

Rice uses the same as tomatoes and less than alfalfa.  Cotton uses even less.  http://www.fao.org/docrep/s2022e/s2022e07.htm  Ill informed nair-dowell cretinous wretch.  Hate to get ugly here but you vapid transceiver drones will be walking across our fields one day after you've fled your cities.  I wouldn't stop if I were you.  I'd just keep right on moving. 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 14:16 | 5886095 Felix da Kat
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This could be the mega-white-swan event the US economy has been waiting for; California exodus to the other 49 states will result in skyrocketing real estate prices... hello massive second mortgage borrowing, spending... an economic revival on a massive scale. A good example of the law of unintended consequences.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 14:30 | 5886161 El Vaquero
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I have cousins in California.  They want to move back here, but they cannot afford to.  They're already saturated with debt. 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 14:45 | 5886234 Fedaykinx
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It also has the effect of diluting other constituencies with hordes of completely braindead free shit army/statist progressive voters.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 00:09 | 5887962 El Crusty
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California running out of water is not the real horror.

Californians on a whole abandoning the state and moving to other states and doing the same shit there is the real horror none of us want to deal with.

I live right near the confluence of the 2 largest rivers in the country. Around here its fairly clean, plenty of clean high quality water, lots of nearly untouched wilderness all around and its very cheap to live here, and there is almost no illegal immigrant presence. If Californians move here en masse they will find a way to fuck up ALL of that.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 14:40 | 5886209 PhysicalRealm
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in reply to 'poor fella', much of the ground water is polluted by fracking waste.

And check this out - they're shipping water out of State:

http://ecowatch.com/2014/08/13/california-drought-bottled-water/

(and NO I don't read that site it came up in a damned search!)

 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 16:50 | 5886802 msmith9962
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Is it possible to frack for water?

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 19:40 | 5887331 logicalman
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Problem is, we'll all reap what they have sown, to some extent.

Golf courses are a pet hate of mine.

Habitat destruction.

Over use of pesticides.

Over use of herbicides.

Huge waste of water.

Just so a bunch of arseholes can knock a small white ball down a hole?

WTF?

Then, the final insult.

Write off your golf game as a business expense - entertaining potential clients, and all that.

Just ask yourself what a professional golfer contributes to the wellbeing of humanity.

See Mr. Carlin on the subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4w7H48tBS8

 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 20:05 | 5887399 Kirk2NCC1701
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El Vaquero: "Killing off golf courses and other shit that is not necessary ..."

Yeah, well sheep are stupid, politicians are weak and bribeable.

For perspective on a similar or environmental disaster, look at Lake Baikal in Russia...  Lake Baikal water is disappearing at an alarming rate, and its ecosystem ravaged by contamination of alien algae from... [drumroll]... North America, of all places.

http://rt.com/news/240453-lake-baikal-pollution-draining/

Is this Putin's fault, or CIA's?

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 22:57 | 5887829 tarabel
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You missed the big one. Look at what used to be known as the Aral Sea. An entire sea gone, thanks to the miracle of central planning.

 

And where did you get that bit about North American algae. Nothing I saw there made reference to that concept.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:07 | 5885676 Abitdodgie
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California is alway's about to run out of water going right back to the early 90's and the rest , nothing to see hear move along.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:35 | 5885823 Freddie
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They roll out the red carpet for tens of millions of illegals.  You reap what you sew.  F em.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 15:05 | 5886335 Kirk2NCC1701
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Why don't you enhance your dogmatic ignorance with a tad of knowledge?

Try this for starters...  useful "Water Conversion Tables"

http://www.dnrc.mt.gov/wrd/water_rts/wr_general_info/wrforms/615.pdf

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 17:04 | 5886865 SilverDOG
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Kirk2NCC1701

 

 

I couldn't help myself, I read it all.

 

 

I'm thirsty.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:08 | 5885680 Seek_Truth
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If there is really a water shortage why are all these bottled water companies allowed to drain such precious resources? (Rhetorical question):

http://www.desertsun.com/story/news/2015/03/05/bottling-water-california...

 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:26 | 5885767 suteibu
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Are these the same NASA scientists who promote the climate change agenda?

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:33 | 5885777 Ignatius
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More significantly, how have those rapacious cunts at Goldman Sucks laid their bets on the California water situation?  Was their bet on crucifixion 6-5 and pick 'em when Jesus wandered into Golgotha?

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 15:18 | 5886397 suteibu
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No, they pulled the Rothschild/Napoleon gambit and spread the rumor Jesus was going to walk, took the other side of the bet and then killed him.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:56 | 5885958 PhysicalRealm
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they had a desalination plant and decided not to use it:

http://www.keyt.com/news/city-says-restarting-santa-barbara-desalination...

 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 20:02 | 5887398 saveUSsavers
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Desal plant 2/3 finished here, Carlsbad CA, for 2016 finish

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 04:26 | 5888194 A Nanny Moose
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That would require the building of power plants...and as we learned during the Gray Davis diktatorship, new power plants don't fly around here..."Law Dawg"

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 12:58 | 5885635 Pool Shark
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Funny you mention that banger;

I remember all the previous droughts that were supposed to doom California. Just about the time the government losers start to suggest building de-salinization plants, it starts raining like hell, and the whole state floods. Of course, in the 70's drought, oil was too costly to make de-salinization cost-efficient. With the current oil price crash, de-salinization makes a lot of sense. Therefore, it will not be tried...

 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:29 | 5885771 americanreality
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Where does the concentrated waste brine solution go?   

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:31 | 5885790 Hulk
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Pasadena...

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:49 | 5885912 centerline
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I would have figured LA.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 16:49 | 5886795 Buckaroo Banzai
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Nope. The "Inland Empire".

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 04:28 | 5888198 A Nanny Moose
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Wrong again. Long Beach.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:37 | 5885830 WTFMOFO
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"Big Liberal Pipeline" will run from there to the east coast to use to melt snow.

 

 

 

 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 14:17 | 5886100 Osmium
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Evaporation ponds for water softener salt.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 14:22 | 5886118 Pool Shark
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...and the Morton Salt Company goes out of business.

["When it (doesn't) Rain, It Bleeds."]

https://americantoolbox.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/morton-full-size.png

 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 17:17 | 5886905 TBT or not TBT
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Where on earth can we put salt water?   That's salted dihydrogen monoxide people.  

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 04:30 | 5888199 A Nanny Moose
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OMG that H2O is a pollutant....and you want to add salt to it? WTF?!?!?

/S

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 15:34 | 5886465 JRobby
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To the Thunderbird and Night Train bottling facility.

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