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Peak Pathetic: Chinese Authorities Claim Control Over the Dalai Lama’s Reincarnation Process

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Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

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The future belongs to China.

China is the next great nation.

The 21st century will be dominated by China.

I’m sure all of you have heard variations of the above prediction over the past decade or so. I know I have.

Perhaps China will be the next great nation, but perhaps not. I’ll tell you one thing, unless the political environment changes a lot over there, a world defined by the Chinese perspective is not a world I want to live in.

The relative lack of political and internet freedom in China is well known, as is the egregious treatment of the Tibetan people. Despite having controlled Tibet since 1949, and the subsequent intentional migration of ethnic Han Chinese into the region in order to dilute the culture, Chinese authorities remain paranoid and filled with fear. So much so that the government is panicking at recent statements by the Dalai Lama that he may not be reincarnated. This screws up the government’s plan to name the next Dalai Lama and use him as a puppet stooge for the regime. Truly embarrassing.

The AP reports that:

BEIJING (AP) — China’s Communist Party is officially atheist, but that has not stopped it from making some impassioned claims on the afterlife.

Some of the strongest language at this week’s annual national congress has been reserved for the Dalai Lama, the exiled Tibetan Buddhist leader. The fury is over his claim in recent interviews that he may not be reincarnated, ending the Dalai Lama’s seven-century lineage. His comments undercut Beijing’s plans to pick a China-friendly successor to the Dalai Lama after he dies.

 

China’s stance: The Dalai Lama doesn’t control the next life. We do.

 

Zhu Weiqun, a senior government adviser, followed up in similarly caustic language, declaring Wednesday that “the reincarnation of the Dalai Lama has to be endorsed by the central government, not by any other sides.”

 

He blasted the Dalai Lama’s refusal to bend to Beijing’s political demands as a “dual betrayal” to China and his faith. He said the religious leader displayed a “very unserious, very disrespectful attitude” by suggesting he might be reincarnated as a foreigner, a woman or even a bee.

 

“It is meant to make the Dalai Lama wholly subordinate, in all matters, to the authority of the People’s Republic of China,” said Elliot Sperling, a professor at Indiana University and expert on China-Tibet relations.

 

Buddhists believe the soul is reincarnated after death in an eventual journey to nirvana, or liberation from the repeating cycle or birth and death. The Dalai Lama is considered an aspect of Buddha whose mission is to help others along the path to nirvana. Tibetan Buddhist tradition holds that a Dalai Lama can exercise some degree of control over how and when his soul is reincarnated.

 

In fact, the golden urn method soon fell into disuse and played no part in the recognition of the current Dalai Lama, the 14th. Beijing revived it in its recognition of the latest Panchen Lama, Tibetan Buddhism’s second-highest figure, in 1995. The Dalai Lama recognized someone else as the Panchen Lama; that candidate, a 6-year-old boy, quickly disappeared.

 

That was seen as just one more Chinese attack on Tibet’s religious institutions, culture and way of life, already eroded by Beijing’s heavy-handed rule and large-scale migration to the region by ethnic Han Chinese.

Is this the sign of a powerful nation, or a weak and insecure one?

 

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Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:20 | 5888950 elegance
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I wonder who did Putin reincarnate as last week...

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:25 | 5888953 strannick
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Dalai Lama's (Theocratic government based on reincarnation) kinda pathetic himself

 

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:29 | 5888969 Latina Lover
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Please  Dalai Lama, reincarnate as the leader of the US, and save us from the psychopaths who rule us.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:39 | 5888990 svayambhu108
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Maybe a quantitive incarnation here and there would be more appropriate

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:55 | 5889021 Skateboarder
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Don't all heads of religion kidnap children and do weird stuff?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:56 | 5889026 Anusocracy
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OMG! China is interfering with the process of reincarnating the Dalai Lama into soil bacteria.

What could possibly be worse than that?

Having said that, it's none of China's business.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:06 | 5889045 Wolferl
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Wait, they are communists and they claim to have control over the "reincarnation of a god"? Those morons in China havn´t understood a word of Marx writings, if they ever red a word of his work.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:09 | 5889053 Anusocracy
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Pretty stupid god if he needs to be reincarnated.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:19 | 5889069 Publicus
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The Dalai Lama is just a politician.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:33 | 5889113 strannick
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Exactly, and despite his warm Warren Buffet Namaste and smile exterior, his Theocratic rule from his palace of the serfs beneath him was as nasty as any regime.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:34 | 5889115 kaiserhoff
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And yet some still claim, that Communism is not a religion.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 16:58 | 5889421 Ignatius
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The Dalai Lama ain't all what he seems.  The propaganda force is strong with this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIVq_eV5bQc

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 22:05 | 5890179 Newsboy
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I didn't do it.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 17:39 | 5889577 sun tzu
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socialism is the opiate of the stupid and lazy

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:32 | 5889110 suteibu
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Buddha's a god?  That would be news to him.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:42 | 5889131 Anusocracy
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My apologies to all the real gods.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:48 | 5889139 suteibu
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I believe Buddha would argue that there are no "real gods."

On second thought, he would not argue the point at all, simply allow you to continue to walk your path.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:04 | 5889161 strannick
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You sure your not mixing up Buddha with Oprah Winnfrey?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:07 | 5889176 suteibu
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Who is Oprah Winnfrey?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:16 | 5889197 strannick
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You don't know who is Oprah Winnfrey?

EVERYONE knows Oprah Winnfrey!!

Dang, you ARE enlightened.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:15 | 5889198 Wolferl
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@ suteibu

 

True, Buddhism has no gods in the more western senses but still has "divine principles" and the incarnation of them them, like the Dalei Lama.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:23 | 5889218 suteibu
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Such a structure was not designed by Buddha, it was created by followers who could not likewise reach attainment, thus a religion was born where none was needed nor asked for.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 16:07 | 5889319 ebear
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The Divine Excuse.

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 16:49 | 5889416 lotsoffun
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thank you.  the weaker needed to still retain a 'god and heaven' concept and it became a religion for many.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:15 | 5889195 Think for yourself
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Buddha explictly avoided qualifying the state of attainment. It is a fundamental understanding of transcental philosophy that the absolute (formless, unrestrained by limitations or qualities) cannot be described in non-transcendental terms of exoteric language. "The Tao that can be spoken is not the real Tao" and all that.

What mattered to him were explicit, practical techniques to perceive and understand the (un)reality of suffering, its cause, its termination and the path for liberation from it.

To speak up without having done a proper in-depth exploration both of theory and practice (especially practice) is like a deaf kid refusing to put on his hearing aid then crying that he cant hear the music.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:09 | 5889175 MsCreant
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You got that dead on. Buddhism is an odd "religion" in that they don't have gods. Having a god is attachment, reification, etc. Focusing one's attention on something like a god leads one away, not towards, the true nature of things as a Buddhist sees it. 

And they would not need to correct you, unless you asked because indeed, you do need to forge your own path and all paths are different. Focusing too much on a "formula" also leads one away from the true nature of things. Buddhism is an ontology or even an epistemology more so than a religion, per se.  

China needs to back the fuck up. They got this one as wrong as you can get it. And yeah, a good Buddhist will try to be polite and not laugh his or her ass off, but it will be difficult. The more China clings trying to maintain control, the more they lose control. This is funny stuff for a "true" believer.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:14 | 5889192 suteibu
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As for China, I think they are simply trying to change the West's political usurpation of an Asian religion.  The propaganda of the Dalai Lama is very strong in the West as another way to attack China.  Very ham-handed attempt on China's part, though. 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:35 | 5889251 MsCreant
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Thanks for the gentle reminder that the US will do anything to undermine folks who do not do their will, including take a side in a religious matter in order to foment discord for their own political gain.

Letting go is the best answer for all of it.

Letting go includes letting go of "government." 

Buddhists have the custom of disbanding their Sanga's (misspelled, apologies) every 10 or so years because they know that an authority structure will form and become oppressive to the rest of the group.

Buddhists have much in common with Libertarians!!

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 16:40 | 5889377 lotsoffun
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hey mscreant - buddhism is NOT a religion.  it is not.  find out about it.  it is a philosoply.  find out about that.  if you really seek it out, it will change you.

it is a way of life.  there is no god for them.  there is YOU.  and your choices.

dalia lama and that junk at this point is for nyc jew girls in yoga pants that want to be cool.  (ok - euro hip girls and euro fag boys go for it also)  (how fascinating, WHO was i in my last life, was i a prince, a king, a queen, yes, i was, who will i be next?) 

nobody on the planet otherwise gives fuck about what the dali lama says or does.  he exists for the west.

buddha teachs one very important thing.  this is the true teaching: be who you are here and now.  (and deal with it).

westerners can't except that.  alaister crowley understood it.  it is very simple.  'do what thalt will' is the best western translation of the entire philosophy.

do what ever you want, (and accept the consequences)

the current game with tibet/china/usa/dali lama is just us/cia/china/guy called dalia lama likes to travel the world and fuck jew girls in yoga pants.

:)

not joking.

 

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 16:53 | 5889430 suteibu
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Yes, Crowley's occult deviant hedonism, preached by the self-proclaimed profit of the religion he created is exactly like the wisdom of the Buddha. 

You've got it all figured out.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 21:20 | 5890088 Muh Raf
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And let us not forget the final sagacious words of Mr. Crowley just before he popped his clogs - "I am perplexed". So he had it all worked out then.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 17:17 | 5889500 Karaio
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lotsoffun:

Made an accurate placement, erred by not provide evidence that the Dalai Lama fornicate with teenagers as colorful monks.

That was the CIA news or MKVD during the Cold War I!

If I saw right, among the monks there are yellow and red, some are saints other motherfuckers.

If an entire population worships something is likely to believe that it is religion.

ZeroHedge is a catchall where there is worldwide information, please do not own the truth here.

Respectfully.

:-)

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 18:44 | 5889730 GMadScientist
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"Buddhists have much in common with Libertarians!!"

Best laugh this week, thanks.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 19:53 | 5889889 early riser
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Suteibu is it true that somebody asked Buddha "Does God exist?" and he did not say anything in answer, resulting in some people thinking he ment "absolutely not - not worth answering"  and other people thinking he meant "Of course He does - I'm not going to answer such a stupid question"  and yet some other people thinking Buddha did not answer because God in his meaning was beyond mind, and beyond mind there is no such thing as existence and non-existence.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:55 | 5889295 123dobryden
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better you read Marx :)

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 20:11 | 5889933 WhackoWarner
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I want to buy the margined derivatives that bet on the birth.  Futures baby futures, 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:40 | 5888991 palmdetroit
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The reincarnation by the shepards of Ceres.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:58 | 5889304 ebear
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"I wonder who did Putin reincarnate as last week..."

Why, the Thirteenth Doctor, of course.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 19:53 | 5889887 WhackoWarner
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Between 1804, when the Eighth Dalai Lama died, and 1895, when the Thirteenth Dalai Lama assumed the throne, none of the incumbent incarnations of the Dalai Lama lived to see their nineteenth birthdays.

If the Chinese found a certain incarnation too hard to control, they would poison him. If the Tibetans thought an incarnation was controlled by the Chinese, then they would poison him themselves.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 21:08 | 5890057 Karaio
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Between a death and a birth occurs Limbo.

A place of peace.

People who die screaming or traumatic death need more time in limbo to soothe the soul (or karma or balancing their magnetic charge).

That idea of Christian purgatory does not exist.

Souls are not waiting for the end of the world, they recycle.

Unfortunately we have a full house.

:-)

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:35 | 5888951 Cognitive Dissonance
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"Perhaps China will be the next great nation, but perhaps not. I’ll tell you one thing, unless the political environment changes a lot over there, a world defined by the Chinese perspective is not a world I want to live in."


The Western world ain't much better my friend. We just employ better propaganda and our brainwashing is deeper. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programing already in progress.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:38 | 5889121 Karaio
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Reincarnation is a serious thing in my design.

Died of plague in Africa by 1860, reincarnated around 1915 and died in the Pacific in IIWW.

Reincarnated in 1962.

At the heart are pure electromagnetic energy that uses fitness to enhance intellectual capacities.

After several incarnations is reached Nirvana and the energy need not return a body to understand the fullness of life.

I think a few more incarnations and will attain the level of the Dalai Lama.

What next?

I do not know.

I tell you one thing:

Add money to be the richest guy buried in the cemetery is not my goal in this incarnation.

hehe.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:41 | 5889130 suteibu
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"After several incarnations is reached Nirvana..."

Not a given at all.  You must first work on that hubris that assumes you are on the right path.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:05 | 5889172 Karaio
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It may be wrong impression but I believe the Banzai, the Saker, PCR, the Moon of Alabama and many others who are in the Network are enlightened beings about to raise your karma in the next life.

Courage, detachment, insight and willpower to change some things are inherent in people at that level.

If the Dalai Lama is or was CIA agent I do not know but read his bibliography, the guy got away with their religion in the worst moments of the Cold War.

The Catholic Pope not (I am Apostolic Roman Catholic) during IIWW.

Know what I mean, I was seminarian.

In this life I have concluded that:

-I Am the son of God.

-When A child talks to the parent (physical) needs no intermediary.

I do not need an intermediary to talk to my spiritual father, the guy who created me.

I do not need pastors, priests, Imam's etc. to talk to my parent.

That story of the Old Testament "eye for an eye tooth for a tooth" fell when Christ came, if you deign to read the Koran understand that there are a lot of peace and appeasement there too.

Have not say the same of the Torah (which basically is a lot of health information and more focused customs as club regiment that religion).

I've made a lot of beer (Pharaohs drink) - the wine or spirits to the mob was in Egypt)).

Consider for a moment that I wrote (if they understand the Google translation).

I ask one thing, one thing only:

Do not come to Brazil, this is our land.

hehe.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:21 | 5889208 suteibu
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"It may be wrong impression but I believe the Banzai, the Saker, PCR, the Moon of Alabama and many others who are in the Network are enlightened beings about to raise your karma in the next life."

Many people may have reached nirvana or even Christhood (for Christians).  You would never know who they are are who is on their way.  I do not believe they would be on the internet talking about it.  But, I leave open the possibility that I could be wrong.

As for Brazil, you are correct, it is your country.  If I come it will be as a guest in your home.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:39 | 5889264 Karaio
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Suteibu:

 

Thank you!

Guests are welcome (no color revolutions).

If you notice, I said in the text "Courage, detachment, understanding and willpower to change some things are inherent in people at that level."

That level.

I believe that none of them are spiritualist or believe, let alone know who they are or what level they are.

You need to read a lot about Allan Kardec (Hippolyte Léon Denizard Rivail) and some Brazilian mainly lit at the beginning of last century to understand the logic of it.

Life is simple, very simple.

You do not need much equity to live well.

Living well is to eat well, travel from time to time, live with relatives (sometimes are not the best kkkk company), have a roof over their heads.

Raising children and give them education (the University is not learned "Education" is obtained knowledge - Education is the cradle of thing, is cultural).

Could talk to you for hours about life ....

Thank you!

Best regards!

Alexandre.

:-)

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:47 | 5889279 suteibu
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Thank you as well.  I enjoy such exchanges.  I always learn more from them.  You remind me about a simple life and the nature of real education.  I am grateful.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 16:13 | 5889327 Karaio
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:-)

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 19:29 | 5889827 WhackoWarner
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Died of plague in Africa by 1860, reincarnated around 1915 and died in the Pacific in IIWW.

Reincarnated in 1962.

At the heart are pure electromagnetic energy that uses fitness to enhance intellectual capacities.

After several incarnations is reached Nirvana and the energy need not return a body to understand the fullness of life.

 

So what did you do with the "time" in between?   Bear? Wolf? Bird? insect many times?  Life does not cease.

 

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 21:41 | 5890132 Karaio
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Me clarify the reason for his country to have so many weapons, invent so many wars.

Destabilize many countries.

Look, I'm not even going near the shit that's going on internally.

hehe

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 19:25 | 5889821 WhackoWarner
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How did you manage to dodge around the 49 days thing?  Or were there birdy lives and cockroaches along the way?

 

Sun, 03/15/2015 - 14:03 | 5891546 detached.amusement
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dodge, lol, dont go there in the first place, dont let go of the potentials as they collapse.  the light turns around and returns to its source.

 

consciousness has no time component, therefore from the perspective of your consciousness, 49 days is utterly meaningless.  (it is why you only experience the present)

 

 

I had to chuckle when I saw someone assert that buddhism somehow doesnt recosgnize deities...or are those hairs being split?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 19:50 | 5889882 Ginsengbull
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How can it be "your land"?

 

Ownership is not the use of something, it is the right to deny others the use of something.

 

We are only above room temperature for 70 some years, truly life is like the blink of an eye.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 20:17 | 5889943 WhackoWarner
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Yup. yeah and yadda yadda.

 

Ownership of even a human body, let alone any living form is temporary.  I do not begrudge the desire for a family to secure a nest that is safe, though,  It is a continuation of the species/spirit survival thing, 

But to declare "I own Brazil" as well-meaning as can be,  it is a protective desire.

 

WE all live on this planet with every species.  Every rock and every tree.  Every tide, every drop of rainfall.  That is a fact.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 16:09 | 5889323 ebear
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"You must first work on that hubris that assumes you are on the right path."

Give the guy a break.  At least his English has improved.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 16:18 | 5889334 Karaio
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Google has improved the translation!

It was not me!

Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!

Sun, 03/15/2015 - 14:00 | 5891539 detached.amusement
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oh please, like the path isnt rather well laid out before us ;)   its a matter of one's choosing to follow it, or not. 

 

I KNOW I am on the right path.  do I follow it unwaveringly?  well, not entirely, yet.

 

the buddha also had an affinity for plainspeak

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:28 | 5889232 ebear
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Does a football have Buddha nature?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 16:22 | 5889344 Karaio
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Football started (with round ball) when decepavam heads.

Kicking things was normal.

See the mezoamericanas cultures.

To "basquet" with heads were!

A little research on the Net and you'll find amazing things about the games with heads began ...

:-)

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 18:40 | 5889721 Wild Theories
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no, it's just a football

it's a few pieces of leather fixed together in a round shape, made by a 12 yr old Bangladeshi child, who if female, has a high chance of becoming a sex slave if her job sewing footballs was taken away from her by enraged western "do-gooders" after they discover that 12 yr old girls were the ones making their footballs.

 

but yes, even a simple football can tell you the real world is a bitch

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 19:57 | 5889902 WhackoWarner
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Cog D.   The Western world is by far a long stretch more wanting.  It denies the spirit and declares power/money the prize. 

 

Except of course the peoples who lived with nature and saw the world as alive.  The indigenous peoples of NA, The North.  Maori etc.  People who see a rock and a tree as a living entitiy worthy of respect.

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:38 | 5888956 JustObserving
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Is this the sign of a powerful nation, or a weak and insecure one?

The NSA illegally collects more than 99 billion pieces of intelligence from this world a month and that was more than 2 years ago.  Does infinite spying make the US a powerful nation or a weak, insecure one?  What about Obama droning women and children and wedding parties? Or bombing 7 Muslim countries? Or destabilizing Ukraine?  Attempting a coup in Venezuela?

US Sponsored Genocide Against Iraq 1990-2012. Killed 3.3 Million, Including 750,000 Children

http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-sponsored-genocide-against-iraq-1990-201...

Obama failed his coup in Venezuela by Thierry Meyssan http://www.voltairenet.org/article186879.html
China has been beyond brutal in Tibet though - that is far, far bigger crime that claiming control over reincarnation:
TORTURE AND HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES IN TIBET:
  1,200,000 Tibetans Killed

Figures compiled by the Tibetan Government-in-Exile.
http://www.subliminal.org/tibet/death-chart.html
Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:25 | 5888958 Oh regional Indian
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Piffle.

Dalai Lama is an occultist who sits as the expelled head of a key "spot", the SS were all over it during WWII.

The visible or the obvious is always a lie in these times...much deeper games are afoot.

Geomancy, the Hartmann Grid, Ley lines.....the chinese sure risked a lot of global goodwill with their brutal suppression of Tibet. Why is/was it so important?

https://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2015/03/14/wisdom-for-rawriors/

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:41 | 5888988 tbd108
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Water. Which is the same reason India stays in Kashmir.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:08 | 5889046 TheReplacement
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Water?  Who needs water?  It has to be some magical thing Hitler in which Hitler or Himmler believed.  Nothing else is logical.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:50 | 5889142 Max Steel
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Duh! Kashmir was part of India . Pakistan occupied it illegally .

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:23 | 5889205 tbd108
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You are right however the grief that the Indians have had over keeping it would probably driven them out regardless of the history of the place except for its strategic importance. I am student of modern Indian history so I am aware of the details of creation of Pakistan and such.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:21 | 5889214 Karaio
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Russia, India and China have settled their borders.

Pakistan's next, write it on the wall!

Four large countries with nuclear weapons (Pakistan courtesy of Uncle Sam).

The trade does not see borders.

hehe.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:25 | 5889222 tbd108
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Actually it was the Chinese that gave the Muslims their bomb.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 16:30 | 5889359 Karaio
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Tell me then, because technical and American soldiers are taking care of that arsenal?

Were you born yesterday?

Remember when Pakistan was a regime change?

Forgot the American Government assured that things were in place?

Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!

Come on old man, take a "Googlada" and leave this job Troll!

Enjoy and also search on Israel tested its first atomic bomb in the south of South Africa and how they passed on the headquarters of the Mirage and other things ....

Holy God!

How much lack of memories!

hehe.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 16:33 | 5889363 Karaio
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If any Muslim country not aligned to the US had Bomb, Israel no longer exist.

Buster!

: - /

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 17:58 | 5889637 tbd108
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You wouldn't know a troll if it bit you on your ass (a target I suspect is large and slow-moving). As far as Indian/Israeli relations go however, you know even less. Israel is a major arms supplier to India and it would be death for them to get into bed  with Pakistan (not that they wouldn't if they thought they could get away with it). On par with this level of understanding is your knowledge about China and India. China has made moves in every way they can think of to surround India and they have been cozy with the Paki's for many years. It is true that Pakistan had their own braintrust do much of the technical work however the Chinese were there all along. It is also true that a U.S. Marine general read the Paki's the riot act early on about storage and such but the local boys are in charge of the command and control. Pakistan's focus is on India not the Middle East. I recommend you go back to your middle school social studies classes and bone up on modern history and avoid your study of Area 51 and the history of Atlantis. Also, although I am sure you need the money, try cutting back on the time mowing lawns.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 17:59 | 5889641 tbd108
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Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:59 | 5889033 Skateboarder
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Fvcking brilliant, ORI - excellent term and article!

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:52 | 5889146 ebear
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"The visible or the obvious is always a lie in these times...much deeper games are afoot."

You mean something like this?

http://www.sikh-history.com/sikhhist/gurus/nanak10.html

"Guru Gobind Singh thus passed on the succession with due ceremony to the Holy Book, the Guru Granth Sahib, ending the line of personal Gurus. "The Guru's spirit," he said, "will henceforth be in the Granth and the Khalsa. Where the Granth is with any five Sikhs representing the Khalsa, there will the Guru be." The Word enshrined in the Holy Book was always revered by the Gurus as well as by their disciples as of Divine origin. The Guru was the revealer of the Word. One day the Word was to take the place of the Guru. The inevitable came to pass when Guru Gobind Singh declared the Guru Granth Sahib as his successor. It was only through the Word that the Guruship could be made everlasting. The Word as contained in the Guru Granth Sahib was henceforth, and for all time to come to be the Guru for the Sikhs."

Perhaps the Lama's remarks were not actually aimed at Chinese Authority?

Reincarnate as a woman?   This is a direct challenge to the Tibetian cultural attitude towards women, is it not?   

I'm always amused by American hippy chicks with "Free Tibet" bumper stickers on the back of their Volkswagens.  They should be reincarnated as a Tibetian girl, and find out what it really means to desire freedom.  

As for bees, they are productive and very helpful, but can also sting you if you show disrespect.

So, what's a Lama to do, at this late stage of the game, when faced with the problem of succession in a world where all humans, Lama's included, are corrupt?  All things must end sometime. Is this not true?   Perhaps Lamaism has reached the end of the line and it's time for a new approach?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-REw_YsBxto


Sat, 03/14/2015 - 16:00 | 5889306 tbd108
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Read the Bhagavad Gita ,,, the part about what happens when adharma fully prevails. Perhaps this will be the answer to what happens next,

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 19:36 | 5889845 WhackoWarner
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No more occultist than current religions world wide.

Come on.  I "believe" that a virgin gave birth to the Son of God?  That some guy sits in the sky and sees all I do and think?

That it is commanded that me and my fellows obliterate anyone not able to embrace "my light"

That a portion of all i earn fro labour belongs to a corporation across the pond that avoids all reponsibility for any sin they commit.  That shields paedophiles?

That some guy in the sky blesses one imperialistic/sadistic desire for power because some psycho says so.

That some guy can dictate my beliefs?

What a joke.

Carlin had it right.

Now Tibet is another topic.  Poke holes in it all you want but it is one nation that centuries past gave power to spirit and not to warlords.  Far as I know the only one, ever.

 

 

 

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 22:19 | 5890002 piratepiet
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"the SS were all over it during WWII."

As far as I can see the SS undertook one scientific mission to Tibet in 1938-1939

Maybe google CIA 's secret war in Tibet, instead of (seemingly) following the tired pattern of framing the Germans. 

It seems the US involvement is a bit more significant to mention. 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 20:55 | 5890007 piratepiet
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dp

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:27 | 5888965 Fun Facts
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Have they decided upon what he's coming back as ?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:31 | 5889240 ebear
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They better hope he doesn't come back as a Book.  

Those things are dangerous.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:35 | 5888966 richiebaby
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The Chinese should impose a stiff reincarnation tax People would think twice about being reincarnated

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:30 | 5888971 escapeefromOZ
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Nobody controls the re- incarnation process if it does exist ? Not even the Dalai Lama , who has been working for the CIA for a long time .....

The re- incarnation process is like the pie in the sky the catholic fraud religion peddles . 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:35 | 5888981 Fun Facts
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It would all be much simpler if man had never invented religion.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:07 | 5889024 The Wizard
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Everyone has a religion since a religion is based on a belief system. The word believe means by-live or live by. What one believes in is what one does. Use of religions to control people is what is nauseating. In this case, IMO,  the Red Chinese have a religion of destroying cultures and controlling others. 

As I wrote in a different posting, diluting the culture of America is exactly how the NWO boyz and gals have accomplished quashing traditional American culture. They substituted a counterfeit history created a mantra called diversity and wella, multiculturalism. Multiculturalism = no culture.

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Sat, 03/14/2015 - 16:46 | 5889406 Karaio
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The Chinese have already Name Apostolic Catholic Bishops Romans from IIWW.

Rome accepted it after some were shot.

My wife is a Jehovah's Witness, I'm Slavic.

In Ukraine are destroying the people of her religion and I say that is because the origin of this belief is in the US.

It's hard to explain to her that, yes, you should not try to shove down the throats of a people other belief (Russians are Orthodox Catholics, as well as Greeks and Turks (not all)).

Evangelicals linked to the US has lost faithful every year in Brazil and elsewhere in Latin America, no one can stand such domination.

I remember the Mormons in the 1970s in a white shirt and black pants with briefcase in hand as CIA agents at the time of the military regime in Brazil.

There are many sorrows south of the equator.

It will be difficult for you, Americans, mend.

: - \

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:34 | 5888974 i_call_you_my_base
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Will it be Dougie from Detroit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAHHs7Hi8gs

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:35 | 5888982 Hannibal Barca
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Don't panick, Jews did it without Jesus so there must be an other way.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:36 | 5888983 q99x2
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Duh Buddhists are atheists too.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:25 | 5889221 MsCreant
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A- theistic, without a belief in a specific god. Not sure why you got marked down on that one.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:40 | 5888992 loregnum
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I think the worst part is the fact there is some uproar over something as idiotic as believing someone reincarnates. The human species sure is dumb for being an alleged advanced species.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:01 | 5889036 Ninguna
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Dumb? Why are you being so kind? What other species fouls its own nest, to the point that

soon the nest will not support them anymore, all the while claiming that they "care"?

Layers of lies in the Matrix of the mind. Mind is mad, and there is little hope of change.

Perhaps the silicon based forms which are taking over from the carbon based forms will do a better job,

as long as they have not been programmed for greed and self-ishness. In the larger picture none of it matters...

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:21 | 5889061 JustObserving
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Mind is mad

It is said that an average person has 70,000 thoughts a day.  The mind becomes a prison for virtually every human.  More than 25% of Americans require mental treatment every year.

All spirituality is before the mind.  To be out of suffering, stay as pure consciousness or awareness, prior to mind. Or Nirguna, in Sanskrit, the formless one without any attributes. Or nothing.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:39 | 5889125 Skateboarder
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Indeed, the supposed goal of 'meditation' is to clear the mind so that the spirit may arise and be formless, i.e. without burden. That is, not to see nothing, but to be nothing. The stuff about having to close your eyes to meditate is bogus IMO - it somehow got tied into yoga, the bodily discipline.

Blut Aus Nord - The Formless Sphere (Beyond the Reason)

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:47 | 5889135 JustObserving
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Exactly right.

Awareness, "I" without any time or space or any attributes is the absolute, timeless state

Consciousness, "I am" is the state while one is alive - one is witness of manifestation and "I am" is all manifestation

Person " I am a body-mind" is the illusory state where birth and death and time and space are real. Consciousness has been falsely restricted to just one body.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:05 | 5889173 ebear
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Wherever you go, there you are.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 16:10 | 5889324 Monty Burns
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An incredibly wonderful state to achieve but by God it's hard to do.  

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 19:41 | 5889860 Ginsengbull
Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:57 | 5889298 css1971
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"What other species fouls its own nest, to the point that soon the nest will not support them anymore,"

Virtually every species of life on the planet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM1x4RljmnE

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:47 | 5889003 css1971
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It's a sign there are some total nutcases at the top of the Chinese Communist Party.

The sooner the Chinese people kick them out the better off they will be.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:49 | 5889141 Anusocracy
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And the sooner the Chinese kick our government out the better off we all will be.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:53 | 5889018 Five8Charlie
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..."intentional migration of ethnic Han Chinese into the region in order to dilute the culture"

Who would do something so evil as destroy a culture by intentional migration of another ethic group? Good thing no culture in the West has ever done that - or had it done to them...

Because  we're too busy doing it to ourselves.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 16:07 | 5889321 Monty Burns
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No. It's being done to us while we stand idly by.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:23 | 5889084 Robert.Paulson
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?? !

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:28 | 5889096 world_debt_slave
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confusion rules

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:46 | 5889134 Chuck Knoblauch
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I'm Batman
Sun, 03/15/2015 - 02:42 | 5890553 napper
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That's lightyears better than the Dalai Lama.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:19 | 5889207 ComplexCat
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Tyler has gone full shilling mode today

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:26 | 5889226 napper
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RE: Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog

 

Truly pathetic article by Mike Krieger.

 

He's giving the word "liberty" a bad name. He's free to indulge in the BS of "reincarnations" of the repressive and murderous Dalai Lamas, but don't associate the pathetic superstition with liberty.

 

China's way of dealing with these BS reincarnations does have a sarcastic tone to it, intended or not. LOL

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:44 | 5889272 damicol
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Do you want to know what the average Chinese think about this shit.

They don't, they do not give a flying rats ass fuck about either the dally fucking llama or any of his fucking mumbo fucking jumbo afterlife bollox or any other fucking half witted pathetic wheedling crock of shite he might spew forth.

And goes goes doubly so for what any fucking toss pt in Beijing says either.

They basically do not give a fuck and just leave the fucking deluded morons to debate amongst themselves.

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:54 | 5889290 ebear
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... and thus, Damicol achieved Enlightenment!

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 16:06 | 5889317 Monty Burns
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You sure have a way with words..Specially four-letter ones.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 23:48 | 5890380 Tachyon5321
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You are right that the average chinese don't care they stole the Dalai Lama's land or culture because in the end they are ignorant chinese... Thanks for sharing. LOL

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:46 | 5889275 SMC
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ZH propaganda day. Very entertaining! :-)

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 20:22 | 5889312 Monty Burns
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"intentional migration of ethnic Han Chinese into the region in order to dilute the culture"

And the Jews/globalists are doing the exact same thing in every white country and for the same reason. Dilute the culture and alter the ethnic makeup of the population.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 16:24 | 5889345 jyl
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"intentional migration of ethnic Han Chinese into the region in order to dilute the culture"

I wonder how Crimea became 80% Russians? how Balkens full of Russians? Why there is no Chinese in Siberia? and why Russian restrict Chinese entry of Siberia?

Here is a link for you to read about (the first page) your beloved Russian how they tread people on the land you invaded: http://thediplomat.com/2010/02/chinas-russian-invasion/

"In 1900, in retaliation for a Chinese bandit attack on a Russian outpost, Russians in Blagoveshchensk drove, at gunpoint, all 3000 Chinese then living to the city into the Amur River. Most of them drowned."

Stop spew anti Chinese propagada here. It only make you look stupid.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 16:24 | 5889349 ali-ali-al-qomfri
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Reincarceration,  not Reincarnation.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 17:04 | 5889444 Firewood
Sun, 03/15/2015 - 02:41 | 5890552 napper
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Very good articles about Dalai Lama's involvement with the CIA in covert operations.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 18:57 | 5889763 reader2010
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So the Liberal Hegemony is telling us what we should feel about this? 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 19:35 | 5889841 Ginsengbull
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In my next life I'm coming back as a parasite...

 

Because that's when I get to take it easy.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 19:50 | 5889879 Wahooo
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What if there are no bankers in that life?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 19:57 | 5889900 Ginsengbull
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Hell, I'd settle for a position as tapeworm, or even tick or leach.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 19:41 | 5889858 early riser
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It's simple: Human longings are unlimited. Material wealth is limited.

Two things happen as a result: 1) people knock each other out over the goods  2) longing remains unfulfilled.

A small number of people don't accept this kind of painful compomise, and learn to go beyond the confines of the chattering mind to the 'field of infinite possibilities' within.

 

Man starts out as animal, progresses as human, and if successful achieves inner peace as a 'Deva' or illuminated person.

 

Perhaps the Chinese authorities would like to put a stop to that . . . like with the Tibetan suppression and the suppression of the Falun Gong. This is a great pity, because both Tibet and China have a rich heritage.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 20:05 | 5889922 Financial Paparazzi
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DALAI LAMA RECOMMENDS BUYING THE NASDAQ

"Nasdaq back at 5000 proves that tech stocks are a good investment over several reincarnations"

Source: www.financialpaparazzi.com

Sun, 03/15/2015 - 14:31 | 5891653 napper
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So even Dalai Lama is getting jealous of the popularity of lunatics and lunacies in the US.

 

What a "spiritual" "leader" trained by the CIA and MI6!!!

 

Soon we may be hearing "return Tibet to serfdom and slavery" from the reincarnated Tibetan slave owner.

Sun, 03/15/2015 - 02:31 | 5890538 napper
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In refutation of the pathetic article by Mike Krieger:

 

http://tarpley.net/2010/02/17/the-dalai-lama-front-man-for-a-feudal-cliq...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9bUHykPF0w

 

Mike Krieger is simply too ignorant and ill-informed to write about Tibet and Dalai Lamas, a CIA project of subversion against China since the 1950s, funded by US taxpayers without knowledge.

Sun, 03/15/2015 - 14:07 | 5891558 detached.amusement
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People forget that the only reason China is doing this is to assert once and for all its dominance over Tibet.  They consider Tibert part of china, end of story.  This has zip zero zilch to do with the west.

 

This began long ago when they kidnapped the panchen lama, he is the one who recognizes dalai lama.  So without the true panchen lama, there is no basis for future discovery of the dalai lama, the line has been severed by the chinese.  Once dalai lama goes this time, there will not be any widely recognized method of identification any longer.

 

By naming a new panchen lama, they already perverted the position of dalai lama, and I will put a shiny coin saying that Tibetans will absolutely refuse to recognize anyone pointed out by this new fake panchen lama.

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