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US Upset At West's Lack Of War Preparedness

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As we noted on Friday, America’s closest ally on the world stage went completely rogue last week when the UK made the highly questionable decision to join the China-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank without getting the all clear from Washington first. In fact, US officials say the move was made “with virtually no consultation in the US.” The news has the White House frustrated, and understandably so. Ever since the idea of a sinocentric rival to  the Japanese/US sponsored Asian Development Bank was floated last year, US officials have campaigned against it, patiently explaining to anyone for whom it wasn’t obvious that without the guidance of the G-7, such an institution couldn’t be counted on to uphold the proper “standards.” Unfortunately, a few of America’s allies didn’t get the message and the US ended up having to “appeal” to Australia and South Korea to refrain from joining. 

As far as the UK’s decision goes, Washington has adopted a kind of “I guess that’s fine if you want to promote global instability” approach, wondering aloud if “a trend toward constant accommodation of China [is the] best way to engage a rising power” (the latter is an actual quote from US officials). While we understand the White House’s reluctance to concede that China will eventually adopt its own version of the Monroe Doctrine, explicitly discouraging the creation of an institution aimed at helping to develop underdeveloped parts of the world seems a bit much. That is until you understand the context. You see, Washington is just looking out for the UK’s safety because as it turns out, Britain and the entire rest of the Western world (other than the US that is) apparently don’t see the need to participate in an arms race with Russia and China. 

Here’s The Washington Post:

With Europe facing its shakiest security environment in a generation, Britain has slipped into a familiar role: Washington’s tough-talking wingman.

 

British leaders have led the rhetorical charge against the twin menaces of Russia and the Islamic State while browbeating reluctant European governments to wake up to the reality of a newly unstable continent.

 

But behind the flinty facade lies an unmistakable erosion in British power, one that has reduced Washington’s indispensable ally to a position that U.K. officials, military leaders and analysts acknowledge could leave the United States without a credible partner in taking on the greatest threats to global ­security…

 

A study by the London-based European Leadership Network recently found that at least six countries are trimming their military budgets this year, despite a promise at last year’s summit to halt a decline that has been felt across much of the West while military spending in Russia and China surges ahead.

So you can see from the above that when the US warns its allies against the “constant accommodation of rising powers,” it’s really just well-meaning paternalism. That is, starting an infrastructure development bank may not be an overt act of aggression, but if you just sit idly by and let a rising superpower build stuff, it sends the wrong message, especially if you aren’t willing to spend at least 4% of your GDP on your military. 

Here’s more from The Post:

“If the U.K. can’t do it, who else is the U.S. going to turn to in Europe?” said Gen. Richard Dannatt, a retired British army chief. “There’s no one else.”

 

“The concern is that we’re going to fall from being a significant player to a bit-part player,” Dannatt said. “The U.K. isn’t of much use to the U.S. if we don’t have a worthwhile military force behind us. Anybody can talk tough. But if you don’t back it up, everyone just laughs at you.”

This assessment seems to assume that the utility of political alliances should be measured solely by the number of things that can be blown up and by that measure, some US and UK officials believe their collective power may be slipping just as “menaces” like Russia threaten Western hegemony. In this environment, every little diplomatic slight helps, which is why Washington would have appreciated it if the UK refrained from joining the AII bank, but as one Asian Development Bank official so eloquently put it, “that horse has already left the barn.” 

We’ll leave you with the following quote from John Baron, a member of parliament and a former British soldier who longs for the days when heads of state commanded military regiments and rode horses into battle: 

“I’m not an interventionist. What I see is a need to talk softly and carry a big stick.”

 

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Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:25 | 5888434 silverer
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Oh sure.  The US has plenty, in fact, boatloads of loose extra money laying around to quadruple our armed forces.  We can easily fill in for all those countries.  What are we waiting for?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:37 | 5888462 Latina Lover
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If the USSA stopped attacking Russia, and threatening China, neither country would re arm and/or expand their military.  It is because of the psychopaths in control of the MiC that humanity is under constant threat of war. Eliminate them, and you eliminate war.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:50 | 5888492 Wolferl
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Sending some `Murican morons to die for Europe? Don´t know what´s wrong with that.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:03 | 5888507 strannick
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But since the west (ie US and it's vassal lackeys) starts all the wars against the rest of the world, isn't their less military spending a good thing?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:09 | 5888526 COSMOS
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The USA is pissed off because cut military budgets mean no weapons purchases from the Merchant of Death, USA.

I mean this is our last manufacturing base.  Its the only thing we export that is made in the USSA.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:22 | 5888549 negative rates
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Now we're in charge of global security? Who's idea was that?? Who made that up.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:41 | 5888599 Fun Facts
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We need to strap some parachutes and rifles on politicians, banksters, media moguels, generals and corporate CEO's.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 11:33 | 5888714 Oh regional Indian
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Fucking war-mongers.

Don't be a Warrior...

https://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2015/03/14/wisdom-for-rawriors/

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:05 | 5888916 TheFourthStooge-ing
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ORI, I think you'll enjoy this. If my memory serves me, it's from around 1983.

Made For TV - So Afraid of the Russians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVf7m_YZ2zY

Which just goes to show that

Everything's the same,
nothing is changed.
Everything's the same,
nothing is changed at all, changed at all.

Sun, 03/15/2015 - 01:21 | 5890479 Oh regional Indian
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Haaaha..........it's got ships at sea...nice one Fourth, thanks for the link.

Maybe the Dead Kennedys need to make a serious comeback.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:49 | 5888616 donhuangenaro
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westerners have delusional disorder thinking that US and EU consists majority of the world... whatta joke...

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 11:43 | 5888731 Fun Facts
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"westerners have delusional disorder thinking that US and EU consists majority of the world... whatta joke..."

artifact of the exceptional global zio media machine.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:13 | 5889062 angel_of_joy
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As a "westerner", I would be very worried to find myself led into war by a nation acting like the clown of the jungle (shown at 1:05)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9dwyWVySMo

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:12 | 5888938 wisefool
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The USA is in charge of global security because they are the only nation with 51% just smart enough to comply with a war provisioning tax code, but just stupid/violent enough to not care that is what it is all about.

In the USA, the things it takes to be a productive, non-scammer, citizen in a specialized economy are not deductible AND have consumption taxes (gas, transport, food, shelter, water, energy, telco) Things that promote over-consumption, luxuries, and wedge issue 501c3 advocacy groups are all tax free, tax-subsidized and fully deductible. Pettiness and the Hegelian dialectic is required to keep a people feeding the Armageddon beast they think is protecting them from their "evil" neighbor and their support of lifestyle ____________. (my sport team-your sport team, hetero-homo, male-female, rich-poor, race-race, religion-religion-spiritual-atheist, ford-chevy, rescue stray animals-let them just go about their business, brown people doing stuff on the other side of the world-brown people doing stuff on the other side of the world)

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:24 | 5888558 J S Bach
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"...could leave the United States without a credible partner in taking on the greatest threats to global ­security…"

 

I agree with Latina...

The United States IS the greatest threat to global security.  The military industrial bankster complex needs war to continue its wretched existence.  The rest of the world (except for Israel) is sick of this.  Just look at maps of bases around the planet and you'll quickly see how it is America who surrounds and threatens ALL nations with their destructive toys.  It is only logical that countries who can afford it would try to build up their own defenses before they, too, become victims of the blood-sucking vampire squid.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:48 | 5888605 RafterManFMJ
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This is all very boring; can't wait until they exhaust the terrorist and Rooskie hobgoblins and have to fake an alien invasion - now that's gonna be cool!

"...the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary." - HL Mencken

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 17:20 | 5889511 sun tzu
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That won't be for awhile. We can always create new national security threats like we did with Al Qaeda and ISIS. Then just add other countries like Syria and Venezuela to the list. Then there are the internal threats like war veterans. 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:48 | 5888615 sam i am
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OMG...

It's frustrating for us Americans that the Europeans are so reluctant to become the sacrificial victims for our old faded glory hegemony. We orchestrated WWI and WWII and benefited handsomely from the chaos issued. We have done everything by the book: have plunged the Europe into the sustained economic crisis and invented a powerful menacing enemies, which is Russia and China. Europe, you just have to let us to sacrifice you. After you die in a nuclear fire, we will rebuilt a gooder Europe and make some dough in the process.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 17:50 | 5889613 Anunnaki
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+10000

The last products still made domestically. Recession is only for American consumers not war profiteers

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 21:00 | 5890031 Cheduba
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Oh sh*t!  Did you see that massive unprecedented drop in US defense spending?  No wonder it's all hands on deck to reverse those evil sequestration cuts.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:20 | 5888552 negative rates
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Once a war monger, always a war monger.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:55 | 5888500 Cognitive Dissonance
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What's a declining world power to do but to threaten, harangue and bully? After all, what are friends for?

/sarc

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:25 | 5888565 TheFourthStooge-ing
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"A trend toward shunning Vichy DC [is the] best way to disengage a petulant declining power."

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:59 | 5888502 silverer
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The US military complex must be fed.  However, if I was ever the top person, I'd bring them all in and tell them to start engineering solutions for our aging and failing infrastructure: water, electric, transportation.  Why should it matter where they are concentrating their efforts if they are making their profits?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 11:31 | 5888709 Think for yourself
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With the technology available to them, such an approach would quickly render scarcity obsolete, forfeiting henceforth all illusory profits, as well as diluting concentrarion of power.

 

Of course, that is an unacceptable solution to them.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:08 | 5888525 TheReplacement
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That is insane.  Humanity is under the constant threat of war because it is in our nature.  Wars have raged across China and beyond since before there was written history in the west.  There were wars on the American continents going back as long as history is decipherable in the Americas.  Africa, same thing.  When and where there have been people there have been wars.

Your scapegoating a few for our very nature is ridiculous.  You could have said that the MIC encourages and profits from war well beyond their numbers.  You could have said that to eliminate them is to reduce the likelihood of large scale war.  With or without the MIC we will have more wars.  This is our way.  It always has been and always will be.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:30 | 5888578 COSMOS
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Wrong, wars are in the nature of psychopaths who gravitate towards positions of power.  The majority of folk want peace and quiet.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:50 | 5888618 Fun Facts
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evil minds that plot destruction

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 11:28 | 5888706 BrosephStiglitz
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True.  But how do you eliminate those mindsets? They will always be present.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:08 | 5888926 Think for yourself
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What matters is to observe and understand it in oneself. Doing so, one liberates oneself from such inner psychopathic tendencies, thus accessing clearer, more objective perception and discernment, in turn allowing one to become a healing force for oneself and one's environment.

 

Cliche to say, nevertheless fundamentally true; the only real change starts from within.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 17:32 | 5889556 sun tzu
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Is there a real threat to invade or attack the US? The only attack in the past 70 years has been from groups like Al Qaeda that the US government created. All other wars were not our business. 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:39 | 5888596 TheFourthStooge-ing
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One peculiar thing to US citizens: everytime they fall upon one of their specific behaviors, they find back the value of universality by making the said behavior part of human nature.

The privilege of exceptionalism.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 11:57 | 5888766 nmewn
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Speaking of exceptional privilege...I think I've found Pooty ;-)

MOSCOW — Rumours continued to swirl Friday over the whereabouts of Vladimir Putin, with one newspaper claiming the Russian president had fathered a child with his long-term girlfriend.

Mr. Putin flew to Switzerland to be with Alina Kabaeva, his rumoured lover, as she went into labour at a private clinic, Switzerland’s Blick tabloid reported, citing residents.

The Clinic Sant’Anna near Lugano specializes in gynecology and is popular with wealthy Russians.

The reports Ms. Kabaeva, an Olympic gymnast turned parliamentarian, had checked into the clinic this week could not be confirmed. The Kremlin denied she had given birth.

Dmitry Peskov, Mr. Putin’s spokesman, told Russian Forbes magazine Friday “information about the birth of a baby fathered by Vladimir Putin does not correspond to reality.”

No reality comrade, none, nyet!...lol.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/03/14/where-is-vladimir-putin-kremlin-denies-russian-president-had-love-child-with-girlfriend/

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:48 | 5889005 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Ah, good one. Made me laugh. Good 'american' style of 'journalism': rumors, tabloids, can not be confirmed.

But hey, 'american' propaganda outlets have never been slowed down when correspondence with reality lacks. Slava Psaki!

More likely scenario is told by Colonel Cassad (yandex machine translation):

"In my opinion, in the next few days he would appear in public, and this appearance will be associated with the development of the situation in Ukraine, which is now teetering on the verge of a major war. Actually, it seems to me that the actual breakdown of the Minsk agreements with the junta in itself sufficient reason to think and prepare for certain decisions.

"Today is Officially the last period, when the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine may adopt a resolution on the implementation of the special status of the former Donetsk and Lugansk regions - if the decision is [not] made today, it would directly violate the "Complex of measures on realization of the Minsk agreements".

"Tomorrow also starts and observed earlier time period from 15 to 20 March, in connection with which various sources indicate that in these days possible resumption of major hostilities on the initiative of the Kiev junta. Russia one way or another will be on the possible failure of the agreements to respond, and very likely we now come to the point of bifurcation, when the situation in Ukraine will start to change much. So I think in the next few days the Kremlin or otherwise publicly define their future strategy (I suppose with regard to the military situation in DNR, nonpublic it is already decided) and Putin the public part of this strategy, will speak."

machine translated source:
https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.ru/colonelcassad.livejournal.com/20...

original source:
http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2090106.html

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 16:12 | 5889326 nmewn
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Well, that other well known American tabloid (Blick) is saying exactly the same thing but who am I to judge propaganda outlets...lol.

So in this authors opinion he's keeping his head down over the Ukraine? Hell if I were Pooty I'd tear my shirt off and have RT film me doing the cossack victory dance ;-)

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 19:58 | 5889905 TheFourthStooge-ing
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So in this authors opinion he's keeping his head down over the Ukraine?

No, not keeping his head down, but rather occupied with important work and having no time for interruptions.

Under the Minsk-2 agreement, the Ukrainian parliament (Verkhovna Rada) has 30 days from the date of signing (February 12th) to designate areas of the Donbass to be given a special economic and political status. Today is the 30th day.

A member of the Verkhovna Rada indicated that a vote on the matter could occur on March 17th or 18th. Poroshenko didn't actually submit this bill to the Verkhovna Rada until today, March 14th.

The vote being late will technically place the Ukrainian government in violation of the Minsk-2 agreement. Unlike the games that Kiev and the OSCE have been playing with regard to withdrawal of heavy weaponry and artillery, this will be a clear, unambiguous, and undeniable violation.

Russia is one of the guarantors of the Minsk-2 agreement, the other two being Germany and France. The machine translation

Russia one way or another will be on the possible failure of the agreements to respond

can be worded more clearly as

As a guarantor of the agreement, Russia will have to respond in some manner should Kiev fail to abide by the agreement.

It should come as no surprise that the Russian government would not respond without first consulting with France and Germany. Given that Russia has displayed a preference to resolve the matter diplomatically, they are no doubt working to coordinate their response with France and Germany and, to as great an extent as possible, align it with the German and French response.

As disappointing as some will find it, I just don't think President Putin will have time for frivolities like shirtless dancing. Perhaps the entertaining image below can lessen some of the disappointment.

http://i.imgur.com/rEgkiZj.jpg

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 17:55 | 5889629 Anunnaki
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Cassad's English site. Must read. My second favorite Ukraine site after the 'Hedge

http://cassad-eng.livejournal.com

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 17:45 | 5889593 Anunnaki
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One more reason Putin is preferred. Fucking a gymnast half his age

Our guy is a known homo whose wife even looks like a hermaphrodite

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:53 | 5888626 Boondocker
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Conflict IS the human condition.   politics just let's you choose sides

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:26 | 5888566 luckylongshot
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The onyl real threat to global security today is the US government....if they were serious about giving peace a chance they would lock up all the idiots in Washington and throw away the key.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 21:23 | 5890093 Parrotile
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But they won't. The policy of lauding those "Idiots in Washington" (and the Pentagon) will continue, since both groups have the necessary connections and backing that counts.

So there is no political intention whatsoever of "giving peace a chance", as must be evident by now in regard to US deployment of military equipment in the Baltic States, and parading said equipment right under Russian noses, so to speak.

For whatever reasons, the "Power Factions" within the US WANT a war. A very cursory glance over past history should suggest that whatever these groups want, they get, irrespective of public opinion. So at this stage the best changces of steering the US away from WW3 (and it WILL be WW3), are mass civil insurrection (unlikely seeing as a big chunk of the populace are dependent on "The Government" for day to day living), or military mutiny. One must wonder whether the barely-publicised removal of many higher-ranking officers from all Divisions may have been part of the groundwork to minimise this risk (replacement of committed "For The People" commanders, with subservient, more compliant "Yes Men").

We'll see, and I suspect, sooner than we might prefer . . . .

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:58 | 5888642 Wile-E-Coyote
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Yeah leave Russia alone and they will leave you alone. We have nuclear weapons the ultimate in defensive stance, large standing armies are there to be vaporised in a war with a foe with equal capability. The morons are always fighting the last war.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:16 | 5888540 Perimetr
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Thanks for the propaganda!

The Wash Post is the main outlet for the latest CIA narrative.

OMG, the West is NOT spending enought on the MILITARY!!!

What a f*cking joke

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:49 | 5888617 Pheonyte
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Yup, and here's yet another example: "War with Iran is probably our best option"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/war-with-iran-is-probably-our-bes...

Un fucking believable

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 23:38 | 5890366 Anunnaki
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Muravchik. hmmm. Let me guess: Irish?

I'm sure Joshua is going to walk it like he talks it and sign up to be in the first wave of attackers

Sun, 03/15/2015 - 01:51 | 5890511 blowing winter
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Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:28 | 5888439 Pheonyte
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Turn those [war] machines back on!!!

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:28 | 5888440 10mm
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Theater, period. 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:41 | 5888469 nmewn
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All thats needed is a pic of St.Pooty strangling an elk to make it complete! ;-)

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:07 | 5888521 General Decline
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The easiest way to get folks to prepare for war... Two words.. false flag. Remember all those ridiculous songs Toby Keith was puking out after 9/11? We need more of that.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:18 | 5888547 nmewn
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Yeah, they always try to getcha with the patriotism/nationalism angle, no doubt about it and I must say, the pro-Russia/pro-China side is no different...I think it must be taught in Statism 101 for Aspiring Leaders & Diplomats at universities world wide...lol.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:42 | 5888441 JustObserving
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The Nobel Prize Winner spreading sweetness and light as dictated by his Neocon masters.  He is a traitor for sending NSA data collected on Americans over to Israel without legal restrictions since March 2009.

He is the ultimate Manchurian candidate - a figurehead selected by the CIA.  His first job out of college was working for a CIA front organization (Business International Corporation). So he has never said 'No" to any war and defended the CIA at every turn - even on unconstitutional spying on US Senate and CIA's horrible illegal torture.  "We tortured some folks."

A secret memo provided by former National Security Agency (NSA) contractor Edward Snowden to the British Guardian newspaper reveals that the US spy agency is funneling raw intelligence data, including information from intercepted communications of US citizens, to Israeli intelligence.

The stunning implication of this passage is that NSA spying targets not only ordinary American citizens, but also Supreme Court justices, members of Congress and the White House itself. One could hardly ask for a more naked exposure of a police state.

The pretense that Israeli intelligence stumbling across such material would “destroy” it without so much as a peek is ludicrous, and everyone involved in preparing the agreement knows it.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/09/13/surv-s13.html

http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2012/07/05/barack-obama-his-mother-and-t...

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:11 | 5888530 TheReplacement
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Since Obama is just a puppet, according to you, why are you so upset about the things he does?  Should you not be sleuthing out his masters and giving us names and addresses?  That would be nice for a change.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:40 | 5888598 Niall Of The Ni...
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They're all screened by the CIA. The CIA know all their secrets. They know that Barry's claims to citizenship are as fraudulent as those to heterosexuality. Heck, they may have the real birth certificate. They keep the knowledge under wraps just in case he ever wanders off the reservation.

They also know how many people Bill and Hillary murdered in Little Rock and DC both. As long as Hillary plays ball, they'll keep their mouths shut.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:28 | 5888442 Singelguy
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The USA spends 3 times as much per year as Russia and China COMBINED! What are they bitching about? If they are not prepared for war by now, when will they be? And if they are not prepared, wtf did they spend all that money on?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:31 | 5888451 BlowsAgainstthe...
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Well, achieving the neocon dream of world domination is expensive. Just keep sending your kids and money.   

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:56 | 5888455 JustObserving
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The numbers given above about US miltary spending are understated by at least a few hundred billion:

While everyone knows that the defense budget is large -- even in the numbers that the public sees as the formally admitted figures by the Department of Defense -- the truth is that when one scratches beneath the bureaucratic veneer, national security spending is much larger, nearly double the amount US citizens are told.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/02/the-real-defense-bud...

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:59 | 5888640 Omen IV
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The real total cost is closer to substantially north of a Trillion - when you add in the CIA / NSA / Private Contracts / Iraq - Afghanistan - African deployments  / Military equipment sales to foreign countries that wont pay back the loans

The total from Russia plus China is $240 Billion. This amount is far more effective spending when you consider the Chinese and Russian cost are less than 50% of USA plus the fact that they are deployed exclsuively on the perimeter of their respective countries and the USA is everywhere

It is dawning on a lot of people like Erdogon in Turkey they are better off on the other side of the equation - cheaper and safer - than a US alignment. Germany is waivering - once Merkel is gone the next player will be a nationalist not USA vassal.

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 22:59 | 5890287 Parrotile
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Highly relevant in view of "all this spending" - http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com.au/2014/04/this-is-how-empires-collapse.html

"Entire Army legions in the hinterlands were listed as full-strength on the official rolls in Rome and payroll was issued accordingly, but the legions only existed on paper: corrupt officials pocketed the payroll for phantom legions.

Self-serving institutions reward con-artists in leadership roles because only con-artists can mask the internal rot with happy-story PR and get away with it".

In full knowledge of the "goings on" in the Political sphere (Wall Street, Washington and The Pentagon), the probability that such activities are NOT in progress in the US of A, on a far wider and more lavish scale, is well-night zero.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:55 | 5888499 SteveNYC
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Aggregate spending is one thing, actual "bang for your buck" is a whole other story. While the dollars in the above charts are relative, what you get for your dollars in each respective country are certainly not. Russia currently has under construction an equal amount, or more, next gen ships + subs as the US; China is outbuilding both when it comes to subs and is spending a boatload on its airforce.

$ spend does not necessarily = relative effectiveness.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:13 | 5888534 TheReplacement
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Yeah but France has them all beat with their 40 year old subs.  Incredibly, a post about Frogs that isn't sarc.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 18:00 | 5889643 Kaiser Wilhelm II
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Good News for the Pentagone : A Captain of a French SSBN is a Young Leader, Phillipe Naudet 

 

http://french-american.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Selection-Young-Le...

 

In a war between France and the U.S ( which will naturally never happens ), we all know for which side he will fight.

 

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:02 | 5888509 thestarl
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Shitbox F35's for a start or 10 billion plus carriers that spend over half their life in drydock.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:09 | 5888527 strannick
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Now Harper's pitching this proven disaster to Parliment.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:14 | 5888537 SteveNYC
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Correct. Toss the all-in annual cost of the F-35 program, plus keeping "x" carrier groups running year round, and compare it against how many anti-ship or surface-air missiles you could buy for the same price. But then again, one is designed for offense, the other defense.......

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 16:32 | 5889362 jerry_theking_lawler
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It take ALOT of money to maintain an empire....

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:29 | 5888444 BlowsAgainstthe...
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Maybe the US government wouldn't be so upset if it didn't let its neocon crazies run around starting conflicts and wars all over the globe.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:07 | 5888523 Late to the party
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Yes.

Capability loss is one thing, but regardless of the cuts (which i dont really agree with) the UK still has the intent to retain the ability to project conventional power and have a nuclear deterrent. This is despite being broke.

These public complaints are really concern with something more subtle.

The real cause for concern from thier perpsective is the declining willingness of the UK public to charge off on whatever interventionist action the USA wants. That was demonstrated in the vote against action in Syria.

Its not a collapse of moral fibre to deal with real threats. Nor is it any weakening of the long standing and real affinity between UK and US people generally.

Its a recognition (boosted by the rise of alternative news sources) that those driving US foreign policy are at best fools and at worst just plain fucking crazy. Nobody sane wants to die for crazy.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:12 | 5888529 strannick
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They could always send their kids

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:30 | 5888447 Dre4dwolf
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For that much scratch the U.S. better have orbital battle cruisers by now for fucks sake.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 11:11 | 5888664 813kml
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They're working on it, but the Russian propulsion systems and Chinese electronics are on backorder.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:31 | 5888450 BadDog
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A break by Britian toward the door will encourage countries like Germany to do likewise.  Once the arab oil countries make their announcement to accept currencies other than the $ the U.S. will have successfully isolated 95% of the world.  All these worlds are yours, but do not attempt a landing on Europa.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 11:48 | 5888739 chunga
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That would be interesting scenario to see play out.

There are a few countries out there already throwing the finger to the USA. Could it be that if another one like you say, Britain, bucks the self-proclaimed "Boss of the World" and does the same it might cause an epidemic with others following suit? Maybe they're just waiting for somebody to go first.

If that happened, one could argue that it would be a tough sell to the public if the US subsequently declared that ,aside from Israel of course, the whole world is now the "Axis of Evil" and must be destroyed. Then again, who really believes that "public sentiment" matters in the least? (It doesn't) And, fwiw, isn't the US frequently the *only* other country in the world that votes with Israel on some of this UN stuff?

It would be pretty ironic if this really happened and the US got betrayed by dual citizens in the upper levels of govt.  

Yup, yup, racist, hateful, spiteful.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:37 | 5888459 roadhazard
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Yes, Chinese military spending is now up to $140 Bil. this year compared to (an admitted) $750 Billion for the US. Oh yeah, and Europe wants to start there own army, lol.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:36 | 5888461 anonymice
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I don't mind if McCain wants war with Russia. I merely want the war zone in front of his house, instead of in front of mine.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:38 | 5888463 Bay Area Guy
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The greatest threat to peace in the modern time is, unfortunately, the US.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:42 | 5888472 DaveyJones
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I hate it when my neighbors won't murder

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:44 | 5888477 GeorgeHayduke
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Just more of the usual military worship propaganda in the US. There's never enough going to the MIC and never will be enough. You can't even talk about cutting back a little on endless war spending or you're branded as unpatriotic or a liberal. Just wave a flag and worship the heroes fighting for YOUR freedom. We would have been taken by Afghanistan and/or Iraq otherwise. Or Syria. don't you know they're just waiting for their orders from Iran to invade the US. Better to fight them over there than on Virginia Beach as they land in their canoes, right? /sarc

Always remember "If you can read this thank a teacher. If you're reading it in English thank a soldier" as stated on a bumper sticker written by a complete moron who is ignorant of history, geography, linguistics and basic common sense. But hey, it's good for pumping up the other morons who comprise the vast majority of 'Murcans. It's easy to become a misanthrope from living among them.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:36 | 5888587 edotabin
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The bumper sticker only in Spanish nowadays. Whom do I thank?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:40 | 5888600 GeorgeHayduke
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Those that hire illegal labor.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 16:37 | 5889371 jerry_theking_lawler
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Me and every other jackleg in the USSA...for not making the federal .gov do its one and only real job...

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 11:02 | 5888653 RafterManFMJ
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I hear ya; even say one disparaging word about cops, or soldiers around here and you may as well wear a T-Shirt emblazoned with "Proud Member of NAMBLA" you'd be person non grata that quick.

It's fucking sickening yet funny in a way - hearing some idiot trying to justify blowing an infants face off with a grenade during a SWAT attack, or how invading a country that doesn't have the means to attack or even threaten you is somehow justified.

Fuck 'em.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:45 | 5888478 Seasmoke
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Time to stop being the bodyguard for the little, big mouthed, most hated punk in the neighborhood. 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:07 | 5888520 GeorgeHayduke
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Bodyguard AND sugar daddy too. Just remember...it's in your best interest. If you don't believe that you may need a little reprogramming, compliments of the MIC.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:27 | 5888570 negative rates
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So who's moving out of the neighborhood? You can't just ignore someone as you are looking them in the face after all these years.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:46 | 5888480 Dekyus
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684 B$ each year to spread peace all around the world, lovely

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:47 | 5888481 Dekyus
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And how much for feed ?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:45 | 5888483 gmak
gmak's picture

Maybe another Civil War in the USA could put this to rest.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:28 | 5888574 Niall Of The Ni...
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That, in part, is what the huge standing army and nuclear-tipped ICBMs that can easily be trained on American cities are designed to prevent.

Who was it said that violent regime change never happens in America because there's no US embassy there?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:47 | 5888486 sudzee
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US military convoy to parade thru the main streets of European cities in a "we own you" reminder. 

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/13/world/army-convoy-through-europe/index.html

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:03 | 5888514 Pretty Maggie M...
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Be nice if say the Germans were to arrange a welcoming party for this convoy, a march down the right streets to block this little propaganda show would really piss in the americans cornflakes.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:09 | 5889180 HowdyDoody
Sat, 03/14/2015 - 17:42 | 5889341 flapdoodle
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...and likely his kidneys and liver live on in the bodies of influential members of Chinese society. (Along with those of the poor tank driver who didn't run him over)

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:49 | 5888488 rum_runner
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The US already spends more on its military than like the next five counties COMBINED.  Our navy is larger than the world's navies .. COMBINED.  

It's only fascist lunatics like McCain and "severely conservative" Romney that shriek for more spending.  And Congressional slime of all colors who chant the "don't close my base, bro" when the Pentagon literally states "we don't want this goddamned base any more."

"Beware the MIC."  Ike Eisenhower.   I like Ike.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:02 | 5888508 silverer
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We were never at war when Eisenhower was president.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 11:01 | 5888648 Bay Area Guy
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Silverer.....Korea?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:04 | 5888515 22winmag
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The fake ass Tea Party never saw a war funding bill it didn't like (or at least rubberstamp in the end).

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:43 | 5888609 rejected
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The Tea party states they want a strong military and a small government. Problem is you can't have both.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:10 | 5889184 HowdyDoody
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They also want their Medicare.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:32 | 5889242 Max Steel
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and that navy can be taken down . It's merely for power projection or dick waving all over earth .

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:53 | 5888496 Odegaard Falls
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America could never fight a real war and there won't be any real wars, yanks are fucking cowards.

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:03 | 5888512 silverer
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I would agree they are "out of shape" for the event.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:37 | 5888589 mcsean2163
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A real war like world war 1, where hundreds of thousands of young men had to go over the top of the trenches and get shot straight away while the generals sat back at hq drinking brandy and fretting about strategies?

Are you a lunatic?

Also, nobody will attack Russia, US, UK, France because they have long range nuclear weapons.  why do you think Iran, n Korea, etc want nuclear weapons? Once you have long range nuclear weapons nobody will attack you, qed.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 11:17 | 5888679 TungstenBars
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The US is so out of it, and so desparate to hide its demise, that it actually might want a nuclear war. It likely figures that Europe would take most of the damage too so it's a real win win for Washington. 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:58 | 5888641 Niall Of The Ni...
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No. No they won't. The affirmative action cases who swell the rank and file can barely hold their own against bands of roving sandniggers. Their chances in a conventional war with a real army that doesn't panic and desert at the sound of the first shot fired in anger would be near zero. Right now any land war in Europe with Russia would end with Russian troops at the Rhine in a matter of months.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 21:48 | 5890144 Parrotile
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At the Rhine in a matter of days if you believe this - http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2112637,00.html, which I suspect is more SF than science fact. However the proposals did help Mr P get re-elected!!

Back to reality, and these systems ARE developed / in late-stage development, so any Russian conflict may well give them a chance to "demonstrate their capabilities", which might not be such great news for the US / EU foot-soldiers . . . .  http://defence.pk/threads/top-10-future-weapons-of-russia.128037/  (note this summary dates from 2011, and we already know some of these systems are in active service).

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:58 | 5888503 Reaper
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The US demands others prepare to die for the glory of its ruling elite.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:00 | 5888504 Dazar Nummers
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The West is frightened and becoming increasingly desperate.  They need to pull themselves together. The Anglosphere reeks of paranoia... I would suggest they gather their strength to confront Nibiru.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:03 | 5888510 LibertarianMenace
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Why is the US always depicted in blue?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:25 | 5888563 Niall Of The Ni...
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Throwback to the Cold War, when the USSR was red and needed contrast.

Never mind that Russia is also red, white and blue today, and far less bloody than Uncle Sugar.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:28 | 5888573 CuttingEdge
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Because US forces excel at blue-on-blue?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:11 | 5889187 HowdyDoody
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The US flag only has two colors - blue and white. White would not show so it has to be blue.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:38 | 5888516 rejected
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Yep, that's Merica.... Suck off the worlds teat while screaming War!

 

Edit: To clear up any misunderstanding,,, the usa mailnly produces military equipment and dollars. The dollars are used to buy real products, mostly from its supposed enemies, while the military is used to contain them while enforcing the use of dollars. Akin to slavery on a world scale.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:11 | 5888528 sudzee
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Kerry says its cheaper to kill people than to provide healthcare. Do as we do. 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:12 | 5888533 Soul Glow
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US officials freaking out and we spend more money in one year than everyone else combined.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:32 | 5888585 suteibu
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At the rate the US is pissing everyone off, it might wind up fighting against "everyone else combined.".

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:41 | 5888603 mcsean2163
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Nobody will ever attack the US.  If they do, it is the end of the world.  The US would wipe any nation attacking off the face of the earth with it's nuclear arsenal.

It is weird, the US only needs a few nuclear operatives and maintenance engineers to ensure it is safe...

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:43 | 5888610 suteibu
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Attacking the US won't be necessary.  Merely a combined effort to kindly insist the US remove its forces from occupied nations.  Once that starts, US "soft power" dies.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 11:01 | 5888646 mcsean2163
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That'd be great.  It's soft power is terrible, look at all the proxy wars the US has engaged in across the world.  The Khmer rouge are a direct result of the US bombing campaign in south east Cambodia.

If the US stayed out of world politics for a while, Russia would not feel threatened and would not need a buffer zone.  This in turn would bring about greater peace in Europe, middle-east and Asia.  Israel would probably be more diplomatic with it's neighbors as the US would not be assisting it.  Chavez would have no enemy to rail against and Venezuela could be become a progressive economy.

The US doesn't understand the nuances of foreign policy.  Rebels are arbitrarily either freedom fighters or terrorists.  It doesn't understand what it is to be oppressed or how historical issues can reverberate in the present between nations.

 

If it stayed off the world stage for a few years, focussed on its own domestic issues for a while, I'd imagine the world would be a safer happier place.

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:26 | 5888536 earleflorida
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this is really telling?

once mao's ccp/prc was the official party of china, the british rushed into, recognizing the new nation in 1949.

ironically, the ussa went bs, but what happened next is the ussa wanted a diversion for obvious reasons as past history now dictates. formosa (taiwan) where kai-shek escaped to was under [his] marshall control, and mao was gonna get him and kill-em. period!

now, the ussa could't let this happen? could they??? so they start a war in korea on june/1950 between the north [post wwii, russia] and south korea [ussa, post-wwii). the british now must choose (backtrack fast!) sides, [so], per usual their premature alignment with china dissipated in seconds, as they go the ussa route excepting/ acknowledging their egregious mistake?under no circumstances was the ussa going to let taiwan in the s. pacific go to the ccp!

now lets look at the tyme-table above, sum? 60yrs +/+ later and see how events unfold in the next six months - year?!?

jmo

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 11:23 | 5888697 IridiumRebel
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We almost dropped a nuke on Beijing during that war. It was as close any other time in history. Thankfully we didn't do it.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:17 | 5888543 Fix It Again Timmy
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All these war-mongering chimps and the 535 blood-thirsty, Israeli representatives in our Congress need to be rounded up and caged in the depths of an abandoned salt mine for a year!  My guess is the world would surely survive and probably prosper...Blunty put: Fuck Them...

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:18 | 5888546 ISEEIT
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Failure creates a vacuum = forces to fill the void.

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Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:20 | 5888551 Oldrepublic
Oldrepublic's picture

Time to change the Department of Defense back to its old name,the

War Department

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:24 | 5888561 Last of the Mid...
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Why in the hell would they even consider consulting bath house barry and friends. Obviously they're racyssist.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:28 | 5888571 Brazen Heist
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Be mindful folks, the US government is very touchy on being opposed in any manner.

They don't like it when you criticize their inviting "presence" in the Middle East, Europe or Asia. Not to mention those successful wars they always seem to start or exacerbate.

Afterall, its all about spreading those warm and fuzzy "democratic outcomes", abroad isn't it? You know, those ones that get rubberstamped for approval. Not those other ones, dem evil terrists!

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:28 | 5888572 Fix It Again Timmy
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The old, dried-up, limp-dick, fat-assed, drooling Neocon fucks want to stir something up because they think it'll make 'em look like Stud Muffins at the 5PM Cocktail hour...Looking for a second young adulthood because the first one was such a wash?...You Turds are DISGUSTING!.....

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:32 | 5888584 SoDamnMad
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The US wants to sell it's MIC over-priced gear to the western countries. The F-35 is the greatest US MIC boondoggle for which those with brains are cutting back orders.  Not sure whether some new technology will reader stealth meaningless in which case twice as many Gripen or Rafale or even un-manned drones will be far more effective than the F-35 with all its software refueling, etc problems.

Western countries have very good weapons systems that can be intergrated throughout NATO. That's jobs in Europe.

For all the deaths (which too me no price can be placed upon) JUST WHAT THE HELL did we get in Iraq and Afghanistan for all those trillions of dollars we spent. We could have cured cancer for that.

Nobel Price. Now there is a piece of work. Good night.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 11:27 | 5888704 pupdog1
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... and then there's the POS Littoral Combat Ships that can't actually do anything or survive in a real fight.

The navy has just solved this trillion dollar disaster by renaming them "frigates."

Some treasonous fuck will get a fourth star for that slight-of-hand.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 18:53 | 5889742 Icelandicsaga.....
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I have seen better designed model ship kits than the POS >. 'FRIGATE . MY ASS  .. the Zumwalt class destroyer looks like a badly done redux of the iron clads of the Civil War era.. proably the old iron clads had more going for them .. as for the F-35 . everything that could go wrong with that lemon pos . has gone wrong .. . bombs that do not fit . avionics that do not work and electronics made by the Chinese that even the Pentagon has bitched to congress about . sensors that do not work .. its all about keeping the MIC in chmmp change.. the alternatives to hte F-35 would be more cost effective and last decades longer .. Wm Lind says.. A bunch of the guys who designed the F-16 have been working on a worthy successor. They have conceptualized a superb fighter—very small, incomparably agile and lethal—that could put America ahead of everybody else for years to come.The F-15 and F-16 would do a far better job for lots less money and that is why its not going to be .. the F-35 . a symbol of the empire in deline . nothing works and it costs too much. The F-35 is akin to the F-105 of Vietnam era.. called the Lead Sled or Thud by pilots wiht all the manuerablity of a loaded two tier bus on a mountain road in China .. easy pickings for MIG 21 PILOTS. 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:36 | 5888588 sudzee
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Is Putin in Greece. Lots of rumours around but This is one that makes cents.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:37 | 5888593 studfinder
studfinder's picture

How much of that spending is waste, inflated salaries, bonuses, benefits >>>??? 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 11:06 | 5888662 I Write Code
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Most.  But a lot of that is built-in, you need a lot of shoes and food and barracks (not Obama) and warehouses and flags and doctors and salaries and benefits, before you've paid for guns, or bullets, much less larger war machines, much less the infrastructure to design and build those F-35s and seventh fleets.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 11:08 | 5888666 IridiumRebel
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85%

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:44 | 5888612 tallystick
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Actually if you tally up the numbers, in fact, the blue bars have increased relative to the red bars in the time frame shown, in contradiction to the premise of the article.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:54 | 5888631 Brazen Heist
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Of course its the "decline" in the rate of growth. Growth is still positive, and yes Western spending has grown much more over those years relative to Russian and Chinese spending put together because their levels are way higher.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:51 | 5888619 rsnoble
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The US, by itself, already has enough firepower to blow up the planet 1000's of times.  And as Russia has said recently, a conventional army is nothing more than provactive in the nuclear age.

So that being said, the US has enough.  

Now........the ability to continue crushing small countries and trying to take them over could  potentially be curtailed.  

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:54 | 5888620 Jam
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Who might I ask is the "U.S." nowadays? How can the average person even be represented, with all the bought off duel citizens in congress. Tribe members running the Fed and the big banks. A commander in chief that originated from who knows where, and millions of Mexicans pouring over the border yearly. This country is becoming a melting pot of shit.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 12:40 | 5888859 Wahooo
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There is nothing wrong with being a melting pot. The problem is the shit that has risen to the top. Clean up the shit and us peons will live in peace.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:53 | 5888625 yellowsub
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Americans do have a legimate reason to cower in fear of terrorists, we spend trillions over the decade and still can't defeat camel riders with all our technological might.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:56 | 5888635 bigrooster
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It is quite simple.  The US and Europe are broke.  China and Russia have all of the natural and human resources to run the world for the next 100 years.  Hence the eagerness of the US to defeat Russia now before them become stronger.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 11:07 | 5888663 Chuck Knoblauch
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It is quite simple. The West thinks their tech is superior. If they are wrong, well, we're all dead.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 16:47 | 5889411 Anunnaki
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Google

F-35: the Edsel of bombers
USS Donald Cook

2 generations of 1000$ hammers and
hollow victories against the Junior Varsity nations has dulled American innovation

Old Lemonhead is the one speaking softly and carrying a big stick

Plus all those Russian based hacks into Home Depot, Target and Chase are an indication of what Russia has in store on the cyberwar end if this thing goes hot

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 23:10 | 5890310 Parrotile
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> If they are wrong, well, we're all dead.

They ARE all wrong, and we ARE all dead. Our timeline may be a lot shorter than we'd wish - http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/all/themes/newsflash/images/logo.png

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 11:02 | 5888654 I Write Code
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But the chart doesn't show the results of the spending.  Only the US has any projectable forces at all, non-American NATO forces ran out of munitions just bombing Libya, a small and non-resisting target.  OTOH it's hard to say what Russia and China get for their expenditures, either.

This chart is not particularly scary, but the problem is very real.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 11:12 | 5888668 JimmyRainbow
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Any questions anyone?

actual Stratfor clip, europe and russia in view of usa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oaL5wCY99l8

clip is long is good is the pure evil in full front view

that fucker finds all that quite funny

no smile from europe

in essence he says it was a fault to try to bring democrazy to everyone, next time we will just destroy and go home.

the better way

Sun, 03/15/2015 - 05:49 | 5890623 August
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actual Stratfor clip, europe and russia in view of usa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oaL5wCY99l8

Thanks for the link.  It's somewhat refreshing when a US Realpolitik figure actually tells the truth, and to polite applause yet, to be followed by a book-signing.  The main goal of US foreign policy is indeed to keep the Germans from allying with the Russians.  I've heard this statement voiced by major figures in the US foreign policy establishment before, but its rare.  I'm surprised the German leadership hasn't been angered by this US attitude, but I suppose that's what Amerika Haus was all about, not to mention the ongoing US occupation of German bases... and the NSA.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 11:16 | 5888678 Wile-E-Coyote
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Well I hope Obama is not hoping on the UK to ride into battle against the Ruskies, because the head of the British armed forces came out last week and said Britain can barely protect itself with the current state of the armed forces. Strong rumours that after the UK general election this year, UK military to be cut by another 30k personnel.

Eye witnesses reported a Bear bomber actually flew over part of Cornwall without being intercepted a few weeks ago, mind you there in nothing worth bombing in Cornwall.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 11:19 | 5888682 pupdog1
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Member of Parliament John Baron, his horse, his pith helmet, and his bolt-action Mauser are going to be vaporized in milliseconds in this next one.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 11:18 | 5888684 StupidEarthlings
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Yeah ..OK, China and Russia send out an annual 'military spending report'?

No different than US. Nobody REALLY knows what they spend.

Its funny /sad how people believe the US understates their numbers..but not russia and china?  In fact id belive that the US numbers are closer to truth than the rest.

Hope yall enjoyed your propaganda sandwich. 

Jesus..

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