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Ex-US General Defends His "Sanctions Don't Work, Start Killing Russians" Comment
Just a few short days after former US Army General Robert Scales explained to FOX News that Ukraine is lost, and acknowledged that an ongoing deployment of American troops to Eastern Europe is unlikely to change the situation, and "the only way [The US] can turn the tide is start killing Russians... killing so many Russians that even Putin’s media can’t hide the fact that Russians are returning to their motherland in body bags,” he has come out defending his statement as the Russian Investigative Committee has opened a criminal probe into his statements. “I’m not concerned at all, I just kind of wish I could take a vacation in Russia but I can guarantee, that’s not going to happen," Scales said, shrugging off Russian 'propaganda' as "a Russian form of war."
Seemingly unfazed by the outrage his comments on Fox Business Channel have caused, the former US general who thinks the only solution to the Ukraine conflict is to “start killing Russians” has defended his stance, again speaking to Fox.
Robert H. Scales, the retired United States Army major general whose outburst was aired by Fox on Tuesday, did not have to justify his comments as such, as he was invited for a cozy conversation with Fox News’ Greta Van Susteren to jokingly discuss the reaction to his remarks.
Responding to the news that the Russian Investigative Committee has opened a criminal probe into his statements on charges of public calls for starting an aggressive war made in the media, and that his remarks violated article 20 of the United Nations’ International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights that bans any propaganda of war and instigation of discrimination, hatred or violence, Scales shrugged it off by branding it “a Russian form of war.”
“It’s the Russia version of the First Amendment – five years in prison if you say something that makes [Russian President] Vladimir Putin angry,” Scales told Fox News.
The only thing that appeared to bother the military analyst is that he is not going to try any vodka or borsch in Russia due to the criminal investigation.
“I’m not concerned at all, I just kind of wish I could take a vacation in Russia but I can guarantee, that’s not going to happen,” he said.
Scales was seemingly surprised by the fact that his words reached the Russians at all: “I got emails today from people in Russia I never heard of before. I didn’t know Fox News was watched in Russia.”
In the end, he insisted that everything he told Fox was “the truth.... we all know that sanctions don’t work, negotiations don’t work, we can’t push the red ‘reset’ button, and the bottom line is, only military action by the Ukrainians that we support will turn the tide.”
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Foreign Ministry spokesman Aleksandr Lukashevich earlier condemned Scales' statements, calling them “Russophobic” and stressing that “the tone of the rampant anti-Russian propaganda is being set by Washington officials.”
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General Scales comments begin at 3:17...
"it's game, set, and match in Ukraine for the US, the only way they can turn the tide is start killing Russians... killing so many Russians that even Putin’s media can’t hide the fact that Russians are returning to their motherland in body bags.”
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Which nation is the aggressor again?
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He who is without sin can kill the first Russian, eh General?
Don't kill the poor soldiers, kill the politicians in russia. In fact, kill the politicians and bankers here too.
I wonder if Scales knows what Polonium is.
I wonder if he knows what century he's in.
Maybe the FSB will do us a favor, kidnap him and send him to Siberia.
like fuck! The Russians don't want him anywhere near.
I love the smell of nuclear fallout in the morning.....
Ignoramus
Russians in body bags?
Generals like him have been sending Americans home in body bags around the world, fighting banker wars on behalf of Elites.
America ruins the world to rule it,
The only way [The US] can turn the tide is start killing Russians... killing so many Russians that even Putin’s media can’t hide the fact that Russians are returning to their motherland in body bags,”
Substitute the word Russian for American, and imagine a Kremlin General/Stooge making the same statement: the USSA media would be screaming 24/7 that Russia is a threat to world peace and must be eliminated.
How do you like it so far, living under a USSA government that endlessly lies, robs you through taxes, and sends your children to die to make the MIC richer?
Exceptionalism gives this general the right to make statements such as he did, and then to double down on them. The face of fascism and nazism has returned, and certain Christian Zionists, like the gereral, are the agents behind this.
The US is spinning a web of war, backing Al-Qaeda and ISIS, creating Nazi Legions in Ukraine. If they think their hegemony agenda will benefit, they will support anyone.
The General plans on using the patriotic American people as tools to spread his Zionism world wide. Will Americans be made fools of? Yes, I think they will. Some of them post on this very thread.
Fuck it. It's time to go Dr Strangelove on this shit. That'll teach Putin.
How about a vacation to The Hague?
Well said, Jack Burton. Americans will be among the last in the world to figure out how badly they are being used and abused by the NWO.
This psychopathic motherfucker should be airdropped into the border area between Ukraine & Russia with a giant fluorescent bullseye painted on his chest, back & forehead.
Breedlove last week, Sterling Hayden this week.
https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A2KLqILTUgZVzxsAP_ssnIlQ;...
the problem with his suggestion is that there are no official ruskie military in the Ukraine. Which is the problem with a propaganda driven empire: sooner or later its leaders cease to realise their own bullshit is, in fact, bullshit.
Unless he's referring to russian or russian descent civilians. Which would be genocide.
Come think of it thats the more likely explanation
None of this is surprising in the least. Remember how they trotted out military "experts" in the run-up to the Iraq war?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_military_analyst_program
Same shit, different day. Only this time there's the added benefit that they could get us all turned to little bits of ash at any moment, so we've got that going for us.
yes it's always the same, only worse...
I thought the Russian military doesn't use body bags - not like the Americans, anyway. Isn't it some kind of tin coffin?
We know that some kind of Americans died in Debaltseve. I wonder if Xe will ship their contract killers asses back here when they get smoked somewhere else far away?
The Secratary will disavow any knowledge...
DaddyO
General Dipshite should talk to Julia Tymoshenko about the best way to kill Russians. No body bags will be required.
Yulia Tymoshenko wants to burn Russia with nuclear weaponshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXooBkkCMP0
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Siberia don't want him
Siberians are good people
This just in: General Scales will be volunteering his grandchildren to be the first Americans sent "openly" to the Ukraine, thank you General, we are sure the little tykes will fill some Russian body bags.. Valerie Jarrett and her children were unavailable for comment as were the bamster "so called" progeny..
American Foreign Policy seems to have evolved along a very simple rule: idiocy from the top, and all the way down. One detail this moron forgot to mention is Who is supposed to do the said killings ? Ukraineans (at least at foot soldier level) don't seem to be up to the task, nor too willing. Is he volunteering some American "professionals" ? Or maybe himself ??
Polonium? Maybe he'll find out? Victor Bout, a Russian is in US Federal prison for saying something similar about Americans. Maybe Gen Scales ought to stay out of Thailand. Maybe he should just burn his passport and play it safe in The Homeland.
"The Phoney Litvinenko Murder" William Dunkerley
media dumb you down much?
The mask comes off
Holy shit – what a warmongering piece of shit!
exactly!
the russians have proved time and again that they can out body-count anybody and win a fight.
unrelenting wave after wave of essentially unarmed men against the cream of the wehrmacht until they won...
this time around they have state of the art weapons systems.... oh yeah - smart - pick a fight for no good reason - what the fuck could go wrong!!
this time is Russians for Russia
not for commissar barrier squads
You just hit the nail on the head...
All the Putin love on the ZH is really a thirst for the same kind of reaction from our leaders.
Putin and his followers are just being patriotic for their homeland and are expressing it openly, unlike the sheeple here in the USSA who are confused and have lost sight of their shepherd.
The bleeting you here for Putin on the hedge is just a longing for patriotic leadership here in the USSA and the sheeple crying out.
IMHO...
DaddyO
Generals and Majors...XTC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCW6Kte2o1A
Which one? They are all warmongers.
Are an American? And you're suggesting to go kill another country's politicians? Guess we're all going to war. Remind me, what exactly have Russia's politicians been doing that is worthy of your decision to kill them? I'm all for an eye-for-an-eye, I just need you to lay it out for me.
Everyone is a threat to our national security. Shall we invade Syria or Venezuela next? That can be the warmup to invading Russia. We should reach the gates of Moscow by November.
What should be most concerning is not that some agent-orange ingesting military psychopath makes such crazy statements... but the fact that he keeps getting more airtime. You would think the media is controlled by the military industrial complex/zionist/neocons.
Oh wait...
He wasn't in country long enough to go crazy and he's been in bed with those neocons since the first time Cheney was in the WH.
Hey!! He is a retired Major General - two stars - probably a brigadier - one star - until the promotion on his retirement.
He is a flunky and a nobody.
Ex-US General - arm chair quarterback.
Now piss off or you can air drop by yourself and snag the first bag alone
What he forgot to mention is that for every Russian in a body bag there might be 2 US soldiers. Even 1 US soldier for 1 Russian would be too much for the US or the EU to stomach.
They are not going quitely into this good night.
Go back to the old ways where kings and generals were at the front of their armies. Better yet - limit the fighting to the leaders. Cage fights with the top national leaders going at it - no rules.
Would save a lot of lives and collateral damage.
We could have "The Twenty first Century Battle of the Dykes" Hillary vs Angela
WilliamBonzai stuff?
Russian Officer fight same as his guys.
If I were there I would have said "You first, asshole".
Tragic how few Americans understand that Russia is our cultural ally; they are only our "enemy" because of our ignorance of their history and the West's penchant for immediate gratification and violence at any cost while proclaiming "peace" and "freedom".
Absolute truth. During our Civil War the Tsar of Russia sent his Black Sea Fleet to guard our Atlantic coast, and the Vladivostok Fleet our Pacific coast. Fine thanks we gave him. Russia was a strong ally until the central bankers started plotting and scheming to take down, seal off, and deform Russia during and after the WW1 destruction of Europe.
In spite of the DC installed, violent, NWO society we knew as the USSR which murdered at least 60 million and terrorized the rest over the following decades, Russia still managed to break the chains and kick back. Good for them. Would that we could do the same.
Russia was first to arrive to aid USS Liberty
which certainly saved ravaged ship and remaining lives.
Volk, I came aross this today. Interesting. Much new info to me:
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/03/how-stalin-played-americans-with.html
In 1920-30's "Agro-Joint," founded in the USA was already active in Crimea, relying on the Crimean Jewish colonists. In 1922 in Simferopol opened a branch of the "Agro-Joint" bank, financing resettlement of the new Jewish residents, as well as the training of Jewish human resources in educational institutions of Crimea. The largest office of "Agro-Joint" opened in Dzhankoy. It was at this time that more then 150 villages appeared in the Crimean steppes, which were inhabited exclusively by "persons of Jewish descent".
dup....there's a lot more of similar history for the searching
I know this past, but not read that FtRus yet...
good post
Now, if only WE could rid ourselves of our bolsheviks
It boggles the mind how this clown ever made the rank of Major General.
He is the very model of a modern Major General.
Most generals are ass-kissing psychopaths.
and the us army actually has a policy of NOT hiring individuals with high IQs
You cant train people who know that the enemy is also human to be inhumane. When you litter a kindergarden with depleted uranium, they want you to do so devoid of doubt.
Right, sun tzu.
The term I would use to describe Scales and his type is "coward-bully." They are brutal with the weak and fawning with the strong.
The only thing that Scales does well is lick the dried feces off the ass of a zionest.
I was really hoping, in watching the video, that he would come off simply as a military analyst. In that event his statements would have been correct. Stating what would be required to accomplish a particular goal is quite different than stating we ought to accomplish a particular goal. "Sadly," that is not the case.
We are DEFINITELY going to war very soon. There is just no stopping it at this point. Economy in the shitter, incompetence at all levels of government, unpayable debt out the wazoo everywhere you look. Yeah, the breaking point can't be far off now.
If you start seeing a lot of unusual military aircraft activity grab your iodine tablets and get out of Dodge. That's all the warning you'll get from our bought off media. It will be bullish for stocks though, I can just hear them "It's already priced in"
There have been unusual movements for the last several months.
Look, you can forget a ground offensive. NATO cannot do that.
It would have to be Naval engagement and missile (conventional) strikes along with Air Force strikes.
NATO would quickly lose such a confrontation.
So, I suspect there will be no giant war unless somebody in the US is completely and utterly insane. And I mean Insane.
To top that off, if China enagaes with the RF, it will be a wipeout.
I think you forgot the part where the USA IS insane at this point.
The only way to save the world now is a for Europe to realize that the US is leading it to slaughter, to kick out the AMericans and then along with the Russians Chinese and the rest of the sane world to put an end to the USA for good in any way possible be it military or economic. Preferrably both.
All Europe has to do is recognize the visage of the demon that last set them on fire.
If they see it residing now in control of the United States then they should act accordingly.
"the demon that last set them on fire"
I like it!!
A code phrase with plausible deniability.
The Truth cannot be denied and is not a code. True evil lurks like a secret society of Ted Bundys that have had an unlimited budget for death and destruction for the last 200 years or more.
If you could imagine an apex predator that could secrete itself by stealth don't you think he would have devised it long before your imagination?*
*Imagine his advantage of centuries of psychotic inbreeding, aristocratic privilege, central planning religiosity and a monopoly on global ponzi finance and all the supportive propaganda therein.
Welcome to the Matrix
Excellent post pdr. Now we're getting somewhere. History is full of privliged madmen throwing sheeple into the furnace to protect their status.
lakecity
Forgive my ignorance on this subject, but I'd be interested in knowing why you think NATO would quickly lose a battle of navies and conventional missle attacks. Is it because most of the damage to NATO countries would be in Europe, thereby causing them to sue for peace (or whatever countries at war do these days) or is it something in the makeup of the two forces that leads you to say that? I'm not being critical. I'd really like to know your thinking on this.
And anyone else that would like to chime in. I'm trying to learn as much as I can on this subject.
Europe does not have a capable army and Russias army is. Meanwhile Russia has its assets in Europe already whereas the US would have to fly/ship them across the atlantic and it would never be enough to win against Russia on European soil.
Meanwhile Russian missile and missile defence tech is vastly superior to the USA's.
A non nuclear war with Russia in the European theater is logictically unwinnable.
And that is not even counting nuclear capabilities, where the Russian have a superior edge with more nukes, much faster nukes, better misisle defence, and nukes that are far closer to the USA than any nukes are to Russia.
We would never survive to find out if any (or which) of our nukes made it to Russian targets. Over 100 Russian nukes would come out of the Atlantic with less than 5 minutes to impact, at a speed that is unmatched to american missile defence.
A war with Russia would result in 30-70 million American deaths in the first half an hour.
Thanks Tungsten. Maybe I'm looking at war from too long a historical perspective. I was thinking that since the NATO forces could hit Russia from three sides (from Europe in the West, from the Pacific across Siberia in the East, and from relatively friendly nations in the Middle East) that Russia could be fighting a three front war. But I can see that I'm thinking in terms of land armies and not in terms of aerial warfare. The naval stuff I can see wouldn't make all that big a difference, as the naval ships are pretty much nothing more than mobile launch platforms. And if we start talking nuclear, I don't know if I want to be one of the "lucky" ones to survive and find out what our nukes did over there. It would be a pretty bleak world if this things goes full nuke retard.
Thanks for the response. Gives me something to chew on.
land army across Siberia?
good luck with that
Agree with most of your assessment, but let's not pretend that a nuclear war would be winnable for anyone. All sides would face tremendous losses.
And that, my friend, is why we have something like 1,000 military bases around the world. Civies don't count when you can hit back in a war of annihilation.
In other words, just to add to the mess of a post nuclear apocalyptic world we would have tens of thousands of well armed American soldiers, now without a working government, paycheck, families or homes to return to, plundering what they can wherever they are.
I often hear people say their weapons are better than ours.
Where are the facts?
Don't get me wrong..I know they're good but I need some evidence!
Russians are masters of propulsion
That's why they're Rushin'.
@ Bay Area Guy--The basic motivations of NATO/Russia are poles apart. The Russians would have a war on their border(s) involving their populations inside and adjacent to Russia. This would be a survival fight for them so they would make retaliation very painful for the attackers. Just because they look like Europeans does not mean they are. Indeed they most certainly are not. They are highly motivated defenders of Mat Rodina--The Great Motherland.
Russians have a long history of being completely underestimated by invaders who do not understand this vast and often baffling land. Violent trespassers invariably find themselves on the receiving end of nasty Russian surprises and humiliating, devastating retreats. Even the climate and geography will torment those who bring war to Russia. Russians are proud, patriotic, and all of them will fight back tooth and nail, from heavy artillery to elderly on the streets who will gladly do what has to be done. Those who come to Russia looking for trouble will get mountains of it.
NATO is made up of a sissy NWO officer corp who have never fought and have no loyalty to any country. They are only loyal to their careers and think that fancy computer weapons will save them. The younger recruits who are in it for the paycheck and bennies never really signed up for fighting, only doing conflict police work, moving up the corporate NATO ladder, or impressing future employers. They are fighting for the NWO since they are brainwashed wimpy multiculturalists and no longer really have a country.
Russian Generals always did and still do accompany their men into battle, like Romans. Western Generals manage wars with IT from the safety of bunkers, like geeks. If NATO is stupid enough to enter the bear's cave they will get so bit.
"they are brainwashed wimpy multiculturalists and no longer really have a country"
Ouch!!
Too much truthiness!!
Dup
May or June this year judging by the rising tempo of propaganda.
One FF away from getting the US public behind it.
Ukraine is supposed to start up again in April. The Kiev military had to tell their first wave of draftees that their service will end in April, in order to avoid a mutiny. So they have a use it or lose it evrnt. By the end of April, their most experienced troops go home.
Quite depressing isn't it. Unfortunately, no way to go from here, with a potential overshoot on global population relative to various critical resources such as energy resources, phosphate rock, fresh water, and so on.
Then you have the monstrous levels of debt (of course, related with the aforementioned) and masses of corruption and arbitrage-seeking schemes in various arenas, at the expense of the average citizens.
Top it all off with an undercurrent of socialistic viewpoints and a largely flacid, and lazy population (in the Anglosphere) who simply cannot wrap their heads around the finite growth thing..
Yeah, we're going to see a severe dislocation of the status quo in the near future. I hate bringing this shit up to good people, because it causes them to lose hope but..meh. Ignoring the problems which we face won't solve them either.
You know, the original title of war and peace was "war, what is it good for"
durden used to write in the village square, the bankers inspired him......
Newman: I'm not beaten yet. I still have armies in the Ukraine.
Kramer: Ha ha, the Ukraine. Do you know what the Ukraine is? It's a sitting
duck. A road apple, Newman. The Ukraine is weak. It's feeble. I think it's
time to put the hurt on the Ukraine.
Ukrainian: I come from Ukraine. You not say Ukraine weak.
Kramer: Yeah, well we're playing a game here, pal.
Ukrainian: Ukraine is game to you?! Howbout I take your little board and smash
it!!
It's good for business!
Absolutely Nothin'
Very arrogant that this individual believes that nobody outside the US watches US media. I have realized I have a better grasp of US politics than most average Americans.
If you figured out every single politician in our Feral Government is a sociopath, then yes, our secret is out.
Don't even get near the word 'logic'. If you do, I'll lose all respect for you. You're doing good so far. Don't fuck it up.
What a bellend!
Fortunately, the word 'retired' is part of his name now...
Fuck I thought that it said retarded
+100. LOL
Just fuking embarrassing
You tried to warn them, Smed; you tried.
I've been out of the country for 8 years, since when did Lou Dobbs become a neo-con fascist? Guess he's just goin' with the flow...
I think it started with him blowing up on air over Mexicans...once he was outed, he had no other choice.
Lou Dobbs had the infamous talking to.
Imagine the outrage if a Russian General said "Start killing Americans."
Someone like General Yury Yakubov? ;-)
War Pigs and the MIC are native to both Russia and the US.
After maintaining pervasive if not controlling interests in both countries politically and economically during the entire Cold War it should come as no surprise that the War Pigs in both camps enjoy their commensurate positions, have commensurate policy goals, and that neither cadre wishes for their fiefdoms to be dismantled to provide funds for domestic non-military expenditures or in a blossoming of actual internation civility and mutual support in lieu of their present systems of trade sanctions, wasteful armaments, destruction, deat, etc...
I'm just shocked (no, not really...lately) that the truth can recieve such a visceral reaction of...where am I at now, eight down votes?...lol.
I didn't down vote you, nmewn. I agree quite often with your statements and did not disagree with your post.
What I did point out is that there are career War Pigs in both the US & Russia.
IF these bastards had to ride the first wave Slim Pickens style with their kids in the cockpit you'd never hear this shit uttered. Most generals on both sides are nothing but arm chair generals.
What was Scales great military adventure? What was accomplished?
Were people saved from domination or some encroaching enemy by his brave acts or is he a career blowhard with a chest full of decorations and a portfolio comprised mainly of military contractors?
EDIT:
FWIW, according to wiki Scales is from a military family and served one nasty tour in America's most illustrious and lauded military campaign of all time, Vietnam.
Generals get paid for war or to promote war, so I don't listen to their ramblings & paranoia too much. But I have been known for a subtle provocation or two of my own on ZH, just to get everyones minds right.
Love the reddies though, lets me know how many ignorant dumbasses I'm dealing with ;-)
"But I have been known for a subtle provocation or two of my own on ZH, just to get everyones minds right. "
Provocation is a damned valuable service. We should charge these fuckers more for it.
For you
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-29/russia-wishes-nato-happy-new-ye...
With love ;-)
lol...seems like a very peaceful guy ;-)
I think most here would not visit Russian fora/blogs, would they do that you'd probally not get red arrows for what is essentially truth in your comment above. There are a few high places in the Russian .Mil / .Gov who would have no problem with a first strike and take a chance...I sit on the fence.
It would seem (on this and every Russia associated thread, in my best Jack Nicholson voice) some can't handle the truth.
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And I'll just note before leaving this click bait thread Tyler set you all up for, you "eastern-philes" couldn't refute a single word I said because its the truth and in the usual manner of your furrowed brow, douer, tunnel vision lifestyle "of reddie" you've become accustomed junk this as well, it makes absolutely zero difference, truth stands on its own.
So good luck with all that ;-)
I'm not sure what your problem is, but it seems like your ingroup morality is overwhelming your ability to think objectively.
All governments are evil, ours just happens to be the worst, and therefore, deserves the most criticism.
Anu, my morality is just fine, thank you very much. I'll only further point out to the drooling, knuckle-dragging Rus brigades around here that General Scales is retired, General Yakubov is very much...not.
I don't know if the significance that (Scales ramblings carrying all the weight of a Brian Williams war story vs Yury NukeEmNow) is lost on you but its not lost on me.
Launch code? We don't need no steenkin' launch code.
See this red button?
Down eight votes now.
I was gonna give you a reddie, just to be part of the Kool Kids Klub. But didn't.
The truth sucks.
SHAZAM!
Nobody on ZH would care. Instead, they'd probably cheer the sentiment.
Little difference in generals around the world. Don't think Russian generals don't get excited when they dream about killing Americans, whether they vocalize it or not. It's mainly the common folk that hate war.
They may hate war, but they're too stupid to hate what causes war.
I want to see all Zeroes fighting valiantly (if ineffectually) in the first brigade - no shirkers or deserters!
I'd rather see all you government lovers fight to the death.
How about we kill this fucker.
Bob, you're not going to kill anyone.
Instead, you're going to finish that tuna casserole your wife made, take out the trash like she told you to and fall asleep in front of the TV.
That's it, Bob!
A Bob take your virginity, or what ?
If the US instigates a war with Russia I would not be surprised if the joker was right in seeing a heck of a lot of generals/politicans having nail gun accidents.
Many people do not want war, and if put in the kind of danger to themselves and their families as a war with Russia would bring...well you can say goodbye to the US gov. People know who is forcing this war on them and they will retaliate.
Many people do not want war, and if put in the kind of danger to themselves and their families as a war with Russia would bring...well you can say goodbye to the US gov. People know who is forcing this war on them and they will retaliate.
HA HA HA HA!
CRACKER PLEASE!!
I should have written some people will retaliate. Most Americans are retarded...
But, eventually, even the retards won't appreciate a costly war.
Generals have no problem sending other people to die for their own sick corrupted personal agenda. Coward of the highest order. War pig.
You that build the death planes
You that build all the bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks.
You that never done nothin'
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it's your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets fly.
Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain.
You fasten all the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion'
As young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud.
You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood
That runs in your veins.
How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I'm young
You might say I'm unlearned
But there's one thing I know
Though I'm younger than you
That even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do.
Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul.
And I hope that you die
And your death'll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand over your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead. Bob Dylan
Bob Dylan sold his soul to the devil. Said so himself.
The devil being the illuminati of course...
In a war between the US and Russia, it's hard to say who has the upper hand. The US military is far more advanced and battle tested, while the Russian military is used to not having enough money and has much shorter supply lines (assuming the war is fought in Eastern Europe or Russia itself). Granted, US weapons are too complicated and maintenance dependent for their own good. Over all, hard to call.
Then there's the Chinese, who may decide to be nuetral, or may come to the aid of one side or another. They've made public declarations of frienship with Russia, but depend on US customers to buy their exports. Hard to call that one too.
In any event, it would take divine intervention (or a good fascimile of it) to prevent the war from going nuclear. IIRC, Russian policy states that the use of tactical nukes to defend Russia's borders does not count as nuclear escalation.
On the other hand, fuck analysis. They want a war, and they're probably going to get one. Whether we live through it is another story.
wendigo - "hard to say who has the upper hand."
The bankers have the upper hand. They do not want a winner or a loser. They want a long, drawn ouit war that spans multiple continents. This will ensure maximum profits for the cartel.
As James Hetfeld once sang "Nothing Else Matters"
Publicly angling for a job in the next Clinton/Bush administration on FOX is how it's done now.
Get your face out there and advertise your availability and total commitment to WAR WAR WAR!
Now boyz...
"First and foremost, the likely enemy of Russia should be clearly identified in this strategic document, something absent from the 2010 military doctrine. In my view, our primary enemy is the U.S. and the North Atlantic bloc," - General Yury Yakubov speaking on Russias nuclear first stike doctrine via Interfax.
...just stop it ;-)
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Oh, you wanted proof!!!...lol...ok...
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/russian-general-calls-for-preemptive-nuclear-strike-doctrine-against-nato/506370.html
The general got it right .. . their primary enemy IS the US . NATO . IMF . EU cabal. Has been since the end of the Cold War when Franics Fukiyama said we were at the end of history and US was hegemon power ... under the NEOCONS in Pentagon and US State .. regime change and shoving 'democracy' down people's throat whether or not they wanted it .. became NATO and US police.. Talk about ARROGANT .... full of itself stupidity .. of course the Russians have to pay attention . you have to pay atention when madmen are loose doing regime change and forcing people to take it like it or not .. aka Iraq . Libya .. and attempt in Syria and Ukraine .. where is your head nmewn... http://www.theguardian.com/world/1999/aug/02/balkans3 DUring the BALKANS debacle another Western FUBAR .. JHow countries do we occupy . how many coutries have contigent of US military . right up to Russia's borders.. of course they realize we are the enemy .. it would be irresponsible not to.
Lieutenant-general Sir Michael Jackson overruled General Clark because the British commander did not want to spark a clash with the Russians.
"I'm not going to start Third World War for you," General Jackson told the US commander, according to Newsweek. In the hours that followed General Clark's order, both men sought political backing for their position, but only General Jackson received it.
News of the clash between the British and US commanders comes just days after the US snubbed General Clark by ordering him to step down next year, two months early, to make way for Air Force General Joseph Ralston, vice chairman of the joint chiefs of staff.
It always amazed me the left considered Clark a viable candidate.
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lol...at least two lefties still do! ;-)
"It always amazed me the left considered Clark a viable candidate. "
Statists from both cheeks of the duopoly love exerting the power of the state in both domestic and foreign spheres.
The neo-libs are no different than the neo-cons with respect to 'the projection of power'.
Ex human, or may be he never was human. What a mad man , must hang out with John Mccain and Kerry .
WOW! What a Dumb Ass, Mother Fucking General! Guy's like this get promoted by sucking Cock. Plan and simple.
...Or licking Pussy. Obama loves women because women love Flaming Homo sexual's. Did I mention that Obama is a Flaming Homo Sexual and Michelle is a Transvestite? Well I just did.
We have killed millions in Iraq, Syria, Lybia, Afganistan. Now this arrogant bastart wants to start killing Ukranians as well as Russians. Take your war-mongering and stick it where the sun don't shine. Peolple have got to stand up and say "enough". When are we going to say enough.
When are we going to say enough.
When grown ass adults stop watching propaganda bullshit like Toy Story?
or Batman........
Apparently, the US military has installed dipshits at every level of command.
I could not agree more. 35 years has taught me that...
So you refuel F16s?
dupe so I'll make the most of it...
Are you from the great white north?
A clip of George Friedman at Chicago Council on Global Affairs answering questions. A lot centred on Russia but he says the USA's biggest threat is an allied/united Germany and Russia. Seems to indicate early on that is why WW1 and 2 were fought.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaL5wCY99l8
No, I don't think he's telling the true picture. Germany is securely in Washington's hands, for God's sake. The truth is China.
correct
real history..don't have to dig very deep to see is fact..especially against Germany evidence is plain...
cos economy was rising fast before both wars to surpass
All manufacture, engineer, technical with most resources.
Germany and Russian should never have fought
Many Germans in Russia, from Great Katerine invitation
otherwise friedman is goat
Anyone who pays money for Friedman's blatherings is a fool.
Well, there's fools and then there's old fools.
General Robert Scales is one of the second variety.
Insanity and arrogance all in one package. Can we draft his entire family and send them to the eastern front first?
What a Tool.
Good thing this purple helmet polisher is retired.
"We report, you decide"
I've decided I'd like to beat this guy with a shovel.
I decided to turn off the TV.
If there is anything positive that can be taken away from anything these days is that there is growth in one group.
And that group is the one that is utterly disgusted with republicans, democrats, and their water carrying scumbags in the fucking media.
They are traitors and deserving of any horrible fate that might come their way.