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California Is Turning Back Into A Desert And There Are No Contingency Plans
Submitted by Michael Snyder via The Economic Collapse blog,
Once upon a time, much of the state of California was a barren desert. And now, thanks to the worst drought in modern American history, much of the state is turning back into one. Scientists tell us that the 20th century was the wettest century that the state of California had seen in 1000 years. But now weather patterns are reverting back to historical norms, and California is rapidly running out of water. It is being reported that the state only has approximately a one year supply of water left in the reservoirs, and when the water is all gone there are no contingency plans. Back in early 2014, California Governor Jerry Brown declared a drought emergency for the entire state, but since that time water usage has only dropped by 9 percent. That is not nearly enough. The state of California has been losing more than 12 million acre-feet of total water a year since 2011, and we are quickly heading toward an extremely painful water crisis unlike anything that any of us have ever seen before.
But don’t take my word for it. According to the Los Angeles Times, Jay Famiglietti “is the senior water scientist at the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory/Caltech and a professor of Earth system science at UC Irvine”. What he has to say about the horrific drought in California is extremely sobering…
As our “wet” season draws to a close, it is clear that the paltry rain and snowfall have done almost nothing to alleviate epic drought conditions. January was the driest in California since record-keeping began in 1895. Groundwater and snowpack levels are at all-time lows. We’re not just up a creek without a paddle in California, we’re losing the creek too.
Data from NASA satellites show that the total amount of water stored in the Sacramento and San Joaquin river basins — that is, all of the snow, river and reservoir water, water in soils and groundwater combined — was 34 million acre-feet below normal in 2014. That loss is nearly 1.5 times the capacity of Lake Mead, America’s largest reservoir.
Statewide, we’ve been dropping more than 12 million acre-feet of total water yearly since 2011. Roughly two-thirds of these losses are attributable to groundwater pumping for agricultural irrigation in the Central Valley. Farmers have little choice but to pump more groundwater during droughts, especially when their surface water allocations have been slashed 80% to 100%. But these pumping rates are excessive and unsustainable. Wells are running dry. In some areas of the Central Valley, the land is sinking by one foot or more per year.
Are you starting to understand why so many experts are so alarmed?
For much more from Famiglietti, check out this 60 Minutes interview.
According to the U.S. Drought Monitor, essentially the entire state is suffering drought conditions right now. And as you can see from the map below, most of the state is currently experiencing either the highest or the second-highest classification of drought…
Nearly 40 million people live in the state of California at the moment.
What are they all going to do when the water is gone?
In some rural areas, reservoirs are already nearly bone dry. And in other areas, the water quality has gone way down. For example, in one Southern California neighborhood black water is now coming out of the taps…
Residents of a Southern California neighborhood are concerned about the fact that the water flowing out of the taps in their homes is the color black. That’s right; the water coming out of their faucets is indeed black — not gray, not cloudy — but black. Inky, opaque black water that the water company says is okay to drink.
Those who live in Gardena, California, are understandably skeptical when asked to consume water that strongly resembles crude oil or something emitted by a squid. The water reportedly also has an “odor of rotten eggs or sewer smell,” according to one resident.
Perhaps you don’t care about what happens to California.
Perhaps you believe that they are just getting what they deserve.
And you might be right about that.
But the truth is that this is a crisis for all of us, because an enormous amount of our fresh produce is grown in the state.
As I discussed in a previous article, the rest of the nation is very heavily dependent on the fruits and vegetables grown in California. The following numbers represent California’s contribution to our overall production…
-99 percent of the artichokes
-44 percent of asparagus
-two-thirds of carrots
-half of bell peppers
-89 percent of cauliflower
-94 percent of broccoli
-95 percent of celery
-90 percent of the leaf lettuce
-83 percent of Romaine lettuce
-83 percent of fresh spinach
-a third of the fresh tomatoes
-86 percent of lemons
-90 percent of avocados
-84 percent of peaches
-88 percent of fresh strawberries
-97 percent of fresh plums
Without the agricultural production of the state of California, we are in a massive amount of trouble.
And of course there are other areas all over the globe that are going through similar things. For instance, taps in Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paolo are running dry as Brazil experiences the worst drought that it has seen in 80 years.
The world simply does not have enough fresh water left at this point, and that is why water is being called “the new oil”. The following comes from CBS News…
It’s been said that the wars of the 21st century may well be fought over water. The Earth’s population has more than doubled over the last 50 years and the demand for fresh water — to drink and to grow food — has surged along with it. But sources of water like rainfall, rivers, streams, reservoirs, certainly haven’t doubled. So where is all that extra water coming from? More and more, it’s being pumped out of the ground.
Water experts say groundwater is like a savings account — something you draw on in times of need. But savings accounts need to be replenished, and there is new evidence that so much water is being taken out, much of the world is in danger of a groundwater overdraft.
And if scientists are right, what we are experiencing right now may just be the very beginning of our problems. In fact, one team of researchers has concluded that the Southwestern United States is headed for a “megadrought” that could last for decades…
Scientists had already found that the Southwestern United States were at great risk of experiencing a significant megadrought (in this case meaning drought conditions that last for over 35 years) before the end of the 21st century. But a new study published in Science Advances added some grim context to those predictions.
Columbia University climate scientists Jason Smerdon and Benjamin Cook, and Cornell University’s Toby Ault were co-authors on the study. They took data from tree rings and other environmental records of climate from the Southwest and compared them to the projections of 17 different climate models that look at precipitation and soil moisture. When they made the comparison between past and future, they found that all the models agreed: the next big megadrought is coming, and it will be way worse than anything we’ve seen in over 1,000 years–including droughts that have been credited with wiping out civilizations.
Needless to say, along with any water crisis comes a food crisis.
Virtually everything that we eat requires a tremendous amount of water to grow. And at this point, the world is already eating more food than it produces most years.
So what is going to happen to us as this water crisis gets even worse?
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Go further West, young Californian.
You'll hit water before you know it
I thought environment issues were hoaxes?
Most people in CA are Godless Commies, so don't expect any outside help.
The really neat thing about unsustainable civilisations is that they disapppear of their own accord.
None of the rest of us have to do a damned thing about it.
I like that.
Halp us Bar-Rack! Halp us!
The water has receded to far, turn it back on!
Two words.... Columbia River
Sure... you might have to cancel a couple of upcoming wars to pay for the colossal offshore H2O pipeline but to finally do something on a world class scale again would be awesome. I'm not saying that relying on Russian rockets to get Amerians into space or Chinese electronic components to build your advanced weaponry isn't awesome or anything...
It would be nice to have something to show for the next trillion in printed stimulus cash. That last trillion went to "shovel ready" jobs and vanished into thin air.
8 to 10 times the water flow of the Colorado... think of mellons...
Mellons are bankers.
High speed rail man, high speed rail! Billions and billions for high speed rail, that must count for something, right?
Who needs agriculture? Saving the
Delta Smelt was a high priority. Besides,
we can get take-out.
I like that idea of tapping the Columbia for CA freshwater needs. Here's how we do it. You know those crappy AsSeenOnTV fabric nylon garden hoses? We run a pair of 'em in tandem (two for redundancy/repairs) from Portland to Port Hueneme. Big ones 20' or so in diameter. Off the coast a mile or so. Suspended 100' or so below the surface (below ships and swells), below plastic floats every 100 yards of so, the tubes running through figure-eight shaped guides (one tube through each side of the eight) held 100' below floats by flexible coiled slinky-like plastic leaders. Propel the freshwater through the hoses/tubes with big-ass pumps in Portland.
Yes We Can. Come on Obama, you dipshit, make it happen. Do one, just one fucking productive thing in your wasted, counter-productive eight years you feckless boob. We'll name this project the O-hose in your honor.
What a hoser . . . .
Besides, we can get take-out.
Take out Delta Smelt? Yummy . . .
Californicator needs moar migrant aliens to harvest the crops and need the high speed trains to go from job to job.
HAARP may be the culprit. Just thinking, if I can learn to handle the mosquitoes and cottonmouths my native Southern swamps may be the real thing. No real shortage of water.
Monorail!!
~"High speed rail man, high speed rail! Billions and billions for high speed rail, that must count for something, right?"~
You've hit the nail on the head, Publicus. Governor Moonbeam spends billions on the High-speed train to nowhere whilst the California aqueduct and levee system languishes, mostly because there's no fancy ribbon cutting "prestige" involved in doing maintenance to infrastructure.
The article is slightly in error, as there is a record of an equally bad drought in California in the 1860s. William Brewer told of it in his fascinating book, Up and Down California, the first geological survey of the Golden State. Brewer's keen eye and gift for description give the reader a solid picture of post 49er and early Civil War California.
As a personal note, I have roughly a 1500 gallon rain catchment system which I plan to expand to 2000 gallons before the end of the year, (2 more IBC totes). I use it to water my garden and could probably make it potable in a pinch if I only had some silver. ;)
What am I growing? Just about everything on the list above save avocados and artichokes, plus grapes, figs, watermelon, canteloupe, zucchini, cukes for pickling and corn. But I don't have a lawn. In my California, if I can't eat you, you don't get water from me. It's that simple.
several trillion to reroute water from northeast to west...plenty of construction jobs for no longer illegal aliens
qe eternity its win, win, win
Four Chan (above) is a perfect example of mellons . . .
Two more words: Goose Lake California. Might piss off a few Oreganeans though, not to mention some fish.
I believe this is clear evidence of global drying. The earth is drying up.
the earth is spreadding, the water is getting thinner saltier. more polutted.
Nope. It's all the obesity.
Fat people are holding a LOT of water!
Nope.
The problem is that we're drinking it all. We should give up drinking fruit juice, and switch to whisky. There is still enough water in Scotland...
To all the down voters...I very rarely use /s BTW...If you're too stupid to detect it, then I'll take the junk hits.
Love your globes Four Chan . . . .
Two more words: Goose Lake California.
Ah, that's actually three words . . . .
He was speaking Biden
California along with the rest of the states should also be growing Industrial Hemp IMHO.
OMG NO, THE GODLESS CALI COMMIES WOULD SPREAD THE GATEWAY DRUG AND EVEN FLAG WAVING GOD FEARING HICKS WOULD BE DOOMED!!!
I'm a hick from the sticks and live in sticks. I fully support Industrial Hemp personally, lol.
In all seriousness, once a person educates themselves on the tremendous industrial benefits of Hemp, IMO, it's a no brainier.
TEXAS ON TRACK TO LEGALIZE HEMP
http://txcann.com/2015/03/05/texas-on-track-to-legalize-hemp/
HEMP LEGISLATION SCHEDULED FOR HEARING IN TEXAS LEGISLATURE
http://txcann.com/2015/03/16/hemp-legislation-scheduled-for-hearing-in-t...
Agreed, amazing that we are not using this resource.
...because you can grow it in yer backyard. No Big Pharma, no Logging, no Chemical Behemoths.
If only I could feed hemp stalks into my Makerbot....sigh
Problem with being educated, on planet earth, is that it makes you want to run out in the street and scream your head off!
Every waking moment is a WTF moment.
But then, there's beer.
Tell me about it!
Thus my avatar.
And scotch.
https://youtu.be/W0xHCkOnn-A
[P]roduced by the US Government in 1942...Interesting to learn that Dupont Chemical funded the anti- hemp / marijuana effort. This is because they had patents on new synthetic fibers and Hemp had a new machine that would put them out of business if hemp were to be used for clothes. Dupont also sold - and still does many of the chemicals to wood pulp producers... so we continue to cut down forests... when Hemp could save millions of trees, be used as an alternative bio fuel and the US could easily grow enough hemp to eliminate the need for oil... so Big oil does not want hemp legal either. Neither do the drug companies... they can't patent it. They would rather keep selling you their drugs. By keeping it illegal the lawyers, courts etc... also make a buck. You can only get high from the female flower - nobody has ever died from smoking a joint. Of course the alcohol and tobacco companies would prefer to keep their monopoly as well. So we have all the BIG Corporate players... against legalizing it. Yet if it were legalized - we would solve many issues and have a multi billion dollar hemp economy as it can be used for 1000's of products. A few other good films to watch are run from the cure & hemp conspiracy - Google it!
"The Emperor has no Clothes"
The HEmperor has all the clothes he/she could wish for.
Exactly..
California along with the rest of the states should also be growing Industrial Hemp IMHO.
I agree totally with this position. For one thing hemp is a very drought tolerant plant. The problem is the fight you are going to face to prevent industrial hemp production from being legalized nationwide. This was/is coming from industries like big oil (hemp oil biofuels), cotton growers (hemp fabrics), chemical producers (hemp fabrics/hemp oil based organic chemicals) and timber harvesters (hemp based paper) just to name a few. The same resistance was/is coming from the liquor and beer manufacturers when it comes to legalization of hemp's psychoactive cousin.
I already got the car and the guns. All I need is the dingo and I'm heading west.
"The Dingo ate my baby"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYTIGXvc88Y
Max and Benes references at the same time. Nirvana.
Don't forget to stop at PetSmart and stock up on supplies before you hit the road.
I got 5 cases of canned Dinki-Di dog food.
I hear the canned koala tastes better than the kangaroo...
Mad Max did not have a Dingo- that was a Blue Healer.
Still a classic after all these years ND
Keep you cotton picking mitts of my Columbia River.
Don't Californicate Oregon
This is Soviet USSA. All your Rivers are belong to us!!!
Two words.... Columbia River
Two more words...Hanford Site
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/hanford-nuclear-cleanup-proble...
"Two words.... Columbia River".
Two worse words...'Great Lakes'....
Last I checked, the ripe for gentrification city of Detroit is near some very large supplies of fresh water. Perhaps the real pipeline congress should be debating should carry water from post apocalyptic Detroit to the southwest.
Someone should alert Buffet first.
Never let a good crisis go to waste ;-)
Somehow those railcars o'water will derail and burn.
I'm not joking nmewn. The drought is real, but it's also being purposely exacerbated by .gov policies. Central Cali farmers getting fucked royally. I suspect the "solution" will make Buffet and or Goldman a boatload. Anyone who thinks they won't direct water to CA isn't worthy of debating. The ONLY questions are where it comes from and who gets to profit from it. Fresh water is all over the place. In our vast industrialized nation, moving water from where it rains to where it's needed is very doable. Might even be the next .gov make work project the FED can finance via QE. Gotta spend the money on something right?
This IS the land of fruits and nuts...um, and I live here. At least the Delta Smelt are doing nicely, though I've never tasted one to know if it's all worth it. But we're getting a "high speed" train that goes nowhere and stops at every burg along the way. Should be finished just before the 10.9 hits.
You really have identified the problem.
" stops at every burg along the way"
So we just eliminate the stops and then we can have the fast train to nowhere.
We do like efficiency!
Rather looks like a Levant type problem.
Perhaps we should consult with our reliable Middle East contacts?
Yeah, I know its real.
You probably feel the same way I do about me bailing out millionaires who live on the beach (while I don't) during hurricane season via my insurance rates.
But really I'm sorta serious, central planners baited/bribed or otherwise "allowed" the farmers to buy land and set up shop where rain doesn't happen.
I'm not throwing you guys to the wolves but you gotta understand the land will not support what has been done there...and no hard feelings but...(theres always a but)...I'm not obligating my kids to fix it through another round of central planning nightmare of QE.
Unless of course, they'll admit that all debt doesn't matter and all laws pertaining to it doesn't matter, which they'll never do.
For control purposes natch, so no, sorry.
Don't fuck with mother nature.
She can be bullshitted fo a while, but once she catches on, a large can of whoop-ass is coming.
I can't believe we're even discussing the SW being dry...its like crap...I've lived here all my life and kept everything green by turning on a garden hose!...being careful to not water the cactus too much.
What the helll!!!
Really?...lol
I always thought growing rice in a desert
was a great idea...
/s
"...but you gotta understand the land will not support what has been done there."
"We can ignore reality. We cannot evade the consequences of ignoring reality." ~ Ayn Rand
i agree with you to a point. Sure the irrigation of CA farmland requires water rerouting, but it always has and the system worked until .gov changed the rules. There's a reason they pipe the water to the CA central valley, given moisture food grows awesome there. If we can build a national Hwy system for cars why not water? Infrastructure like this is one of THE VERY FEW things the federal government should be doing.
It doesn't take the feds to dig ditches and pour concrete. Unless you're trying to stea...(ahem) borrow, another states water or taxes of course. I'd feel better about Californians (as a whole) if they just did it themselves, long run, you guys would feel better about yourselves for having done it that way with no strings attached.
You're gonna have to de-sal and pay more for water because of where you choose to live and make some "interesting" choices about how much administration/clerical/regulation (read nannyism) you actually need or want.
Well you know the rest of the Country borrows our money as California pays out more than it gets. I get where you're coming from though. In this particular case however, if the Union has any meaning at all, I believe there is a place for the federal government as far as the infrastructure goes (and I'm talking the financing of it of course). Then let the negotiations take place between the states. As I said before there is a reason why CA Central Valley is an agricultural hot bed things grow very efficiently there once you as water. That benefits the entire nation. Ultimately it's not really fair to put this on Californians as the real problem is CA farms and those who consume there goods, and that's everyone in America. In the absence of CA agriculture SoCal could have the greenest lawns on earth and it would mean squat to our water usage. It's not a term I use often, but as far as CA water/agriculture we are truly "all in this together" As for desalination, its energy to energy intensive. Maybe with the increases in solar efficiency a solar farm in one of our desert regions might make it cost effective at some point.
The central valley is productive only because of massive irrigation with what is in short supply...namely water. I'm not meaning that in a derogatory way (or looking down my nose) because I'm in the SE but its just the way nature is, its been that way for thousands of years and will be that way for thousands more.
The flip side is its flooded here, an unusually wet winter as we go into our dry season the spring...the mold, mildew is part of it, its just the facts of where one lives.
You guys are going to have to do desal, TECO did it but they just pumped the brine back into the bay, so it killed the wildlife. They modified it.
http://www.tampabaywater.org/tampa-bay-seawater-desalination-plant/index.aspx
Knowing a little bit about the history & geography, Pinellas & western Hillsborough have always had potable water issues. Pinellas bought land in Pasco county back in the day (when Pasco was rural) and used it as its water source as it grew. Well, it sucked Pasco dry almost, killed off swamps and cypress heads, people in Pasco were pissed as time went on.
Hillsborough got most of its from the river and yeah, it tasted like it too, even after treating...lol.
Desal for overgrown metro areas, its in your future ;-)
McDonald's doesn't serve any food on the aforementioned list so I guess there isn't anything to worry about.
Personally, it would be worth watching the idiots in San Fran and Sacramento wildly gesticulating and pontificating their verbal vomit as they sink into the sand. Government shitheads passed out building permits like candy while the rest of us fought to stop the lunacy to no avail. In San diego there was a great push for conservation and people cut back 15%. Now they raised the rates due to lack of revenue and people act surprised. This crap has been going on for years. If our well goes dry we'll just go back to our family farm in Washington and watch the idiots eat each other.
Miffed
"-95 percent of celery
-90 percent of the leaf lettuce
-83 percent of Romaine lettuce "
^^^THIS^^^ is a HUGE part of the problem. NONE of these edible plants have much of anything in the way of nutrition or vitamins. These 'leafy greens and vegatables' add nothing to diet but trace fiber and moisture.
1. STOP wasting valuable land and water growing shit that has NO nutritional value.
2. Lawns? Everyone wasting water on inedible acres of ornamental grass in a severe drought, let alone the money, pertroleum, and chemicals used in mowing and preening the shit: is an idiot and deserves to go bankrupt and thirsty.
3. Car washes?
4. Ornamental water fountains?
Fuck the arrogant resource depleaters. -Don't let them leave what they ruin to start again elsewhere!
But without celery, the fatsos will be even fatter.
What are you talking about??? Every fatso i Know eats only vegetables !!!!
Golf courses in the desert gotta have green greens.
http://www.lawnlift.com/
Celery (besides making people feel full and not eating processed garbage) is very high in Vitamin K and a good source of Folate, Potassium, and several amino acids.
Easier to pipeline the Cali hipsters to Detroit. Abandoned factories, cheap burnt-out lofts, high ceilings, no ceilings, grafitti art. They'd love it. In 15 years it'll be the trendiest place to be.
Hippie Heaven! Freak Farms!
Hey wait a minute, I'm kinda sorta like one of those guys, without all the "crystals" harnessing the power of the positive universe and wearing pyramids on the head and what not.
It could be a party ;-)
you get you some crystal and you'll have a party!
(especially with a pyramid on your head)
Bullish!
dammit, time to buy dilapidated blocks before the idea goes out!
No no... the plug in the Great Lakes is Chicago.
"Pull it!" ~ L.S.
STOP flushing drinking water down the drain
Humanure is the future
Always thought shitting in the water was a bad idea.
Unfortunately, society allows few options.
Mr. Crapper has a lot to answer for!
Well we could all shit on the ground like bears and cows and deer and squirrels and eagles but the government says our shit is toxic or hazardous or something so instead we poop in our water.
Actually makess sense on an abstract level...
"Well we could all shit on the ground like bears and cows and deer and squirrels and eagles but the government says our shit is toxic or hazardous or something so instead we poop in our water. "
I have news for you: your piss and shit is quite likely highly toxic.
Almost ALL phama is water soluble. Guess waht happens when you excrete/urinate?
You take viagra? The chemical components are in your urine.
You take lipitor? The chemical components are in your urine.
EVERYTHING from caffeine to oxycontin is being found in the water table.
Ground and water are slowly being pharmacologicized by a process of human based water solublization and excretion.
Please flush hard. LA needs the water!
You forgot birth control pills and all those estrogens ingested from commercially raised beef. Is Pajama Boy really a surprise?
I'm sorry, I can't give up my morning espresso.
Miffed
And all the big city municipal water departments take all that sludge screened from the water in their sewage treatment plants, full of your poop, drugs, chemicals, pesticides and toxic metals, and turn it into biosolids, which is then added into fertilizers you can buy in your local garden center and used by agriculture to fertilize crops. It is also spread by cities like San Francisco and Detroit on school lawns and parks. Just think about that the next time your kids are playing soccer and you are sitting on the lawn watching them. In San Francisco there is a group suing the City to stop it's use at schools.
Been using sawdust toilets for 10 years now. They work wonderfully and the resulting compost is incredible !!!
Why are they worried? Moonbeam is building them a train from nowhere to nowhere at a cost of $100 billion. Shouldn't that solve the drought?
Absolutely. We must be Eco-friendly. Besides,
we can get bottled water from the store.
Stop spraying over the Pacific and let the rain back in.
Except Diaspora.
'Hi Neighbor?...'
Californians need to practice agriculture that way they do in Almeira, Spain. In giant greenhouses. There are nearly 100 sq miles of greenhouses in Southern Spain. You can see the greenhouse landscape from space.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Calle+Espa%C3%B1a,+36,+04008+Almer%C3%...!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0xd7a9e02ff158b11:0xdfa1fe1a78cba57f?hl=en
and this is how they get their agua
http://www.water-technology.net/projects/bajo-almanzora-desalination-plant/
Fuck that! They need to quit their jobs, pursue their dreams and move to Vegas, baby! Hell, they got water shooting out of the ground in Vegas. Michael Jackson too! In a desert no less. Merica' Hell ya!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=401wv1eKc2c
Edit. If watching that video doesn't make you sick to your stomach? You're on the wrong team.
That's such a great symbol of what the American Way of Life is.
Conquered a paradise and destroyed within less than two centuries. Profit baby, who cares about the reservoirs or next generations? That's so socialist. Egoism is the goal and money is our god.
yup,and your point?
Do you also need someone who tells you, when you should go to toilet?
How about thinking for yourself about the consequences it has if such a system is supported? If it is spread all over the world and the sheeple are hailing it because it brings "freedom" and "Democracy"?
Your comment is the most depressing of all. It shows how deeply doomed we are.
The human species - an evolutionary dead end which believes to be the crown?
its so dry there your sweat barely hits the ground. They tout that they recycle that water but its probably real humid next to that. It should be a tropically located attraction. Unreal. Cocky and decadent
Used to have hydroponic farms all over the high desert and they actually were growing things like tomatoes, cucumbers, corn, beans...don't see them anymore. The only hydoponics now is inside houses and they're growing dope.
Fuck California and every asshole living there.
Just stage one of the USA turning into a third-world shithole, the massive western desert. Washington state will have to build a barrier to keep the sand dunes out before its all said and done.
Couldn't happen to a better group of self-absorbed cunts. Vegetables? We've got rain elsewhere and the whole industry will just shift to the wettest basins.
Fuck California.
Well I can see the globalist strategy of Divide and Conquer didn't work with you. You're far too sophisticated to fall for that.
Its okay benb, while you're busy buggering your boyfriend maybe you can wipe the lube from your mouth and tell us all how to do things.
Knob-slobberer.
Awww. Benb was right; you're much too sophisticated to have fallen victim to the Divide and Conquer strategy.
Oh, and "knob-slobberer?" How kinky.
This is by design. Remember food is just another control mechanism. If Cali goes down due to the weather modication, your choices of food will be significantly reduced and prices will increase, maybe you're OK with that. Yeah things are fucked up here, but it's not entirely our fault. We've been duped into falling for the usual scams and usual suspects. Apparently the powers that be want us dead, so you might get your wish, but the blowback is going to be huge, unless you live in a bubble. If you know anything about agriculture, Cali has some of the highest yields in the country and although you might be able to move some products, your not necessarily going to get the same yields.
Animals !!! We gotta get out of this place !!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxNEiZhpinY&list=PLA64BE844AF7DB6F9
Governor Jerry Brown is a Globalist cunt... it's all Agenda 21. Governor dirtbag told a private meeting of fake environmentalists that he was going to put all the farmers and ranchers out of business. Weather weapons and over regulation is the game.
http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/siteupload/2012/09/agenda-21-map.jpg
Yeah but, Linda Ronstadt used to be his Mom. true story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srpwqf2MWAw
Public relations, not sexual relations. Linda Ronstant was his beard. Jerry is a ferry.
Totally agree, thank you.
Hey Rusty, do you think some of these guys are going to ever get that they are being jacked?
A few will figure it out, most will not. One thing is for sure though, all of us here in the so-called "Civilized 1st World" are getting ass raped on a daily basis.
As for the stereotype hippie liberal, they are concentrated along the coast in massive infestations known as Los Angeles, Santa Barbara, San Francisco, Oakland...travel twenty or thirty miles inland and you encounter a surprisingly conservative population that doesn't have the numbers to outvote the coast. The term 'Left-Coast' is very apropos.
Dude, you know if you pee in the shower,
you can save a lot of water...
I live in the desert, the only thing green here is where I've pissed.
benb,
what you don't understand is, that the fact that there are forces that try to PROFIT and follow their AGENDA thanks to certain (sometimes artificially amplified) developments, does not mean that the development had been sustainable or was created by these forces only.
It really only needs some common sense to understand that agriculture (in a desert state!) is only sustainable, if it only uses as much water, as it rains every year. Everything else is not sustainable.
Sometimes I wonder who is worse: the globalists with their fearmongering agenda and weather control, or those people who believe that humans were the crown of evolution and should rule over mother nature and biology. Both are the two sides of the same coin of evil: Jewish materialism.
I understand and have seen a lot more than you think.
The point is we can have no idea what the natural weather conditions are until they shut down HAARP and quit spraying the hell out of us. Almost every time rain is predicted they spray then little or no rainfall. Not that difficult to grasp. That is a scientific observation at its most basic. People where I am are starting to get it. When the zombies around Z/H leave that out of the equation their comments become laughable.
benb,
we know what the natural wheater conditions are, because California exists longer than chemtrails and geoengineering.
That's what I meant with use your common sense. Agriculture in a desert state. And you blame the groundwater depletion on weather engineering?
Then you show as much common sense as Al Gore.
There are consequences for perverse nature hostile human actions. With high probability carbondioxide is NOT a problem, but it DEFINATELY IS A PROBLEM, if we follow the force of EXPONENTIAL ECONOMIC GROWTH on our limited planet, exponential growth because of exponentially growing compound interest on money as debt.
Not ONE of the climate safers talks about that - which for itself is almost the proove that it's a scam and a lie. Their agenda is a different one, but they are riding on the mindset, that more and more people recognize, that the current path is unsutainable. And because globalists now are also playing the alarmists in California, does that change the fact, that California is a desert state? Does agriculture in CA become unsustainable because of the agenda 21?
If I would follow your logic I could say: the climate change propagandists have an agenda and therefore it's a scam and we have nothing to change. But the truth is, that we have a problem: a monetary system that enforces exponential growth - which is destroying us, the animals and nature.
We need to understand there is a fundamental problem. The reason why everything is going down the drain, is because of this problem. And we shall not allow them to confuse us. We need to have a clear vision - separate the problem from the agendas of all involved parties.
Then we can recognize the climate change scam, we will recognize how chemtrails and geoengineering is probably manipulating the wheather at the cost of poisioning nature and we also will understand, that agriculture is not sustainable if it is run in a desert state no matter who is trying to profit from it for his agenda.
You can remove all chemtrails and it will not change the fact, that California is a desert state and that agriculture is depleting it's water reservoirs!
If humans are not capable to accept that our existance and especially the AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE of the throw-away-society has an impact, then mankind is DEFINATELY an evolutionary dead end and has no future.
And btw, it would also support those forces, that have come long ago to the conclusion, that the exponential population growth of our species is the biggest danger for our planet and that it probably would be the best if mankind was to less than a billion. The ignorance we humans have shown will not go unpunished. Either it will be corrected by mother nature before it's too late, by mother nature after it's too late, by TPTB or by coming to our senses and acknowledge that we are only one unimportant part of nature and not above it.
Againstthelie, you say "Not ONE of the climate safers talks about IT". Am I correct to assume that 1) "safer" is a typo for 'saver' and 2) the "it" you're referring to is the concept that CO2 is not a problem but at some point it is a possibly a problem?
If my two assumptions are correct, then please watch this brief ~100 second snippet of Elon Musk being interviewed by Charlie Rose:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO0DRa5gLoI&feature=player_detailpage#t=...
Sorry for my bad English.
1. Yes, climate saver.
2. No, with IT or THAT(?) I mean that NOT ONE climate saver is talking about the fact that EXPONENTIAL GROWTH is unsustainable.
Not one of them is talking about the fact, that compound interest and debt based money ENFORCES exponential economic growth.
No sweat. On the second point, I think you would be hard pressed to find a single person that put their name to a document that was incorporated into AR5 that wouldn't make the connection with exponential growth and difficulty preventing a worst-case scenario collapse.
I could just as easily say "that's all they talk about" and it would be as accurate as your statement "not one..."
THE BEST two examples today are Evo Morales and Arctic Methane Emergency Group also known as The Abibimman Foundation - Rethinking 'Economics' In The Age Of Climate Change. Here's a .jpg LULZ
If you take the time to watch these two videos, you will see explicit efforts to connect the fake economy to the real COST [EDIT; ironically equally as good an analysis as you'll see on related Zero Hedge articles :p]. This issue has been much discussed for a long long time.
Thanks for the reply, hope the Mr. Musk summary was worth your time. I do read your comments - all well written : )
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note; Evo spoke first that day and spent a tiny fraction of his time speaking on behalf of China+77, but the message from BOLIVIA is that of which you speak Againstthelie. (There's an audio input select if you mouse-over the player bottom right area.)
Why are you spinning things upside down?
EVERYONE is repeating: we need economic growth! We need to reform this and that to create more growth! Only a growth of over 2% can keep labor constant, higher growth is necessary to reduce unemployment.
Name me one establishment economist, western politician and banker who admits, that compound interest is the reason why exponential growth is necessary at all!
EVERYONE is only repeating the same old phrase: we need growth.
And the reason why this fact is kept out of any discussion, out of all universities and why everyone supporting this insanity, it has been the key for the power of the money masters for thousands of years! A whole religion has based it's strive for world dominance based on the use of this weapon of mass destruction.
1 penny 2000 years ago and with a compound interest of only 5% would be worth today more than 160 BILLION planets of pure gold at earth's size. That's compound interest! That's the exponential function within. Humans have no sense for exponential growth.
It is the reason for the state of our planet, our societies, our families, the human cilization. It's a cancer. It's purely evil.
And you are downplaying it... Congratulations Shlomo.
I agree with you that the repeated mantra of growth growth growth is the dominant message and I agree with you that compound interest is evil. I simply pointed out that you are wrong when you say that not one "climate saver" (you mad sis?) is discussing these.
That which has been going on for thousands of years of Neolithic civilization and has just relatively recently exploded is waking humanity up more and more to the problems associated with the 'business as usual' paradigm. It's mostly the warnings coming from the "climate savers" that we may have serious problems that is driving people to question the growth model and begin to come to terms with the fact that our political sciences are coming up short.
That's what Evo Morales said last December in Peru. In a nutshell he said the United Nations System, which is rooted in growth growth growth and the biggest bullies bullshit, is failing...
Let me guess, you didn't listen to him speaking at CMP10 because global warming is a hoax. And you didn't listen to Stuart Scott. because Israel and Al Gore.
I'm pretty much on my own now, here at Zero Hedge, pointing this out.
ALL ROADS LEAD TO PARIS
Come one, what impact does Evo Morales have in the USA, in the EU, in Japan?
With your method I could also argue, that negroes have the same IQ as Whites, because there is a Hollywood negroe or a negroe at the MIT with a high IQ. And I could also claim that not all Jews were in support of Israel, because of "Jews against Israel".
Presenting 4-sigma outsiders to discredit the truth is equal to lying.
I like living in one of the largest areas on that map marked for "normal use".
Then you will be one of the lucky ones that will live.
Re that map.
Any ideas why Chicago metro is one of the few "normal use" zones?
Especially for a large metro area, it seems highly unique.
#so-fuxored
More specifically it is about America 2050 and the Wildlands Project which expects to restrict over half of all lands in the U.S. from ever having man set foot on them. The bullet train network will shuttle us between concentrated population centers, non stop, as we are not allowed to set foot on all that natural land anyway.
The answer is ... "Chinatown".
Correct- a mega fraud is being perpetrated on the dumbed down public. All the globalist controlled media and corrupt institutions - TV, National Geographic, NASA, various Universities shove their phony propaganda shit into the public's heads while T.Boone Pickens, Warren Buffet, the Bushs, etc are acquiring global fresh water supplies. It's a big fucking play. They control the government and the government is using weather weapons against us. Half the people here still don't get it.
“World events do not occur by accident: They are made to happen, whether it is to do with national issues or commerce; and most of them are staged and managed by those who hold the purse strings.”
~Denis Healey, former British Defence Secretary and Secretary of the Exchequer
You missed the part about "back into" as in, back to it's natural state. I'm sorry to break it to you, California was a desert for a long time before environmental guilt was all the rage. And just as in the past, those in power will do nothing, even if they could, because they believe in the philosophy of making someone uncomfortable in order to get them to move (in a political sense). And disrupting the food supply is a mellinia old technique of marxists for making people uncomfortable. And if a few million would also happen to die off as well, well that's just icing on the cake for the leftists behind the environmental armegeddon religion. Though it's really not about the environment to the leaders, it's about creating an entirely new global economic system based on carbon credits. An idea BTW, that Al Gore is a rather large investor in. Go figure.
http://www.backgroundwallpapershd.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/you-tal...
No man, You see how certain comments are indented differently than others? If my reply was to you, it would be to the right of your comment above it (like this one is), but since it's to the left that means it was a reply to a comment above yours,
I get you, but sometimes people get a little casual or are in a hurry etc. so I was just checking.
"Couple hundred thousand illegals and a couple hundred thousand buckets. Make a bucket line to Lake Michigan." Joe Biden
Not every environment issue is a hoax.
A look at the fact that California is a desert state and what they are producing there (what an incredible list in this brilliant article) nowadays shows, how perverse and sick Capitalism REALLY is and that it has no future, too - just like Communism. The two sides of the same coin: Jewish materialism.
The water was there in reservoirs, so why not use it for agriculture?! Who cares about sustainability. The market does not price in problems for next generations! And a deranged civilization that only knows profits does not care. Until it runs out of water. LOL!
The market is their god? Well the good news is, that this time it seems that mother nature will teach the sick and perverted materialistic earth destroyers sooner rather than later a lesson.
Have enough beer and pretzels ready, when the climate saving Jewish Hollywood producers with their pools and the farmers with the bible in their hands will begin to fight, who should have the priority in destroying nature.
Humans were created to rule over mother nature claims a religion that came from the desert? It seems the Jewish-Christian nature-hostile mindset in California is about to receive the payback human species as a whole deserves. And sadly the only language god's "crown" understands is not the language of logic and sanity but blood and tears.
They believe it's in god's sense to wage war against nature? Let them earn what they deserve!
Turns out the alarmists have been screaming about the wrong environmantal problem. Human-caused climate change through carbon dioxide production may well be a hoax, but natural climate variation in the form of droughts has sneaked up to bite humanity.
The energy wars over oil may now be replaced with wars over water. Damming the upper Nile (Ethiopia) and the Tigris and Euphrates (Iraq), other rivers in the Middle East, or the Ganges (India) is already causing international disputes. Will the future of international pipelines be to carry water instead of oil or gas?
Tropical areas with heavy rainfall (like Central America, the Amazon, parts of Asia and Africa) may be the next areas for intense agricultural development. But parts of Brazil are in a drought too, we are told.
California has already exploited the Colorado river and Rio Grande (to Mexico's loss), and for years now water districts in various States have been buying up farmland to take the associated water rights for urban use. California may now have to embark on a huge program of desalinization of sea water, water conservation and water recycling to save itself. Golf courses may soon be covered with astroturf. Sewage may turn into a desired resource.
Fuck you California.
You bring Pelosi and Feinstein into our lives?
You embrace La Rasa?
Die of thirst assholes.
The problem is, as CA turns into a wasteland, "La Raza" will be moving east for the welfare. They sure the hell won't migrate back down south.
"The problem is..." No the problem is the little fool doesn't understand that La Raza is a creation of the Ford Foundation... Which at one point Geithner's dad ran and for some time Obama's mother worked directly under him... It's all theater.
The depth of your understanding of political reality is impressive.
On behalf of all Californian's fuck you and the hellfish you rode in on... Although I do agree with you, fuck Pelosi and Feinstein.
Just so long as you don't mention the word 'fuck' and either Hilary or yellen in the same sentence I'll be able to keep my food down.
mean reversion is a bitch....
Go west, till you hit the Pacific. Start desalinating.
Use wave power, solar power or nuclear power (in any combo) to power the desalination plants. And keep your illegal alien and H1B1 paws off my Columbia water.
p.s. to 1:14 AM posting... Sorry Mike Snyder, but there ARE Contingency Plans for CA, as I already provided you with info on CA desal projects a few days ago...
Fri, 03/13/2015 - 13:44 | 5885868 Kirk2NCC1701
Long desalination* in CA. Have on fear, IDE Tech is here.
Short RE prices, as people migrate out of CA. Long RE prices in OR and WA, where water is still abundant, the climate is mild, but getting warmer and drier also (mountain snow packs melting at alarming rates after warm, dry winter).
* CA desal projects...
1. http://www.mercurynews.com/science/ci_25859513/nations-largest-ocean-des...
2a. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlsbad_desalination_plant
2b. Israeli company (IDE Tech) building America's largest desalination plant in Carlsbad, California
http://www.haaretz.com/business/1.575985
2c. http://www.triplepundit.com/2015/01/largest-seawater-desalination-plant-...
Long Nuclear ('Nukular') Reactors to provide the energy for desal plants. So you might find the two co-located for practical and security purposes.
Note that I predicted this before on here, as it pertains to Saudi Arabia in response to a ZHer question "Why is KSA building nuclear reactors when they have so much oil?".
ALL countries with an arid climate and access to plenty of seawater will use nuclear+desal plants. E.g. Iran, India, Pakistan, Israel.
Why is there an Israeli Company - not a Native Californian or US Company - taking the lead in CA's Desalinization Plants?
No offense; but we're talking Civil Infra Works, right? Is Governor Moonbeam et. al catering to Campaign Contributors over actual Voters again?
It's because only Israel and Saud have had to invest in this tech, because, you know,
they live in fucking deserts.
PU,
ISR and KSA (the ZioWahabi (or ZioconPetroDollar) Axis) live in the Desert -
You fail to see a few things:
1) WE usually build those Desalinization Plants in those locations;
2) It STILL doesn't excuse a non-USA Company from building "our" Domestic Infrastructure Projects. THEY ARE FUNDED BY 'MERICANS, FOR 'MERICANS, DAMN IT!!!
Y'all are lookin' at Texas, aren't you.
I know you are. I just know it.
please stop that, pretty please
"Without the agricultural production of the state of California, we are in a massive amount of trouble"
i don't know who exactly "we" is - looking out my window at my garden right now ... fish are jumpin', cotton is not high yet, but the deer population is exploding and we can hunt hog all year round - nasty critters, but you can shaw nuff eat 'em