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The FBI's Secret Gun Vault Revealed
Gun enthusiasts rejoice. If you thought the firearms used by the nation’s most notorious criminals were lost to history, think again. As the BBC reports, the FBI houses a collection of more than 7,000 weapons in Quantico, Virginia, including guns used by John Dillinger and Baby Face Nelson.
From BBC:
On a military base in Quantico, Virginia, the FBI keeps a collection of over 7,000 guns, including weapons used by John Dillinger and other famous American gangsters.
But these weapons aren't used in the field to prevent crime. Instead, they're part of a massive library used to help solve crimes.
With the weapons on hand, analysts can rebuild destroyed weapons needed for evidence and match ballistics from thousands of samples.
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Lets home they have an 18+ billion dollar funding crisis and need to auction them off. I'd like a few more collectables firearms capable of blasting some Pb into targets at a high velocity.
But only the highest ranking agents are allowed to fondle the biggest guns.
Link is dead. Says video is private. Anyone got a working link?
Regards,
Cooter
would be nice
I'm drooling over some of those old wheel guns. And Al's old Tommy Gun. I have a thing for 45 ACP.
That Babyface Nelson 1911 with the huge muzzle brake looks interesting. Has a Tommy Gun foregrip for people like you.
Did you know there was a cartridge special for the Tommy. .45 Thompson. its the same as 45acp except longer by ~1/4 inch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ltLgG_ibCQ
I dowloaded the file first and the video was fine (360p).
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31841688
After the first paragraph of the article where it says BBC. Go ahead and click on that word. The word BBC is a link to the video.
Not trying to be an asshole. Just answering the question.
Does the collection include the high powered rifle LBJ's hitman, Malcom (Mac) Wallace, used to Kill JFK? Inquiring minds want to know.
http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKwallaceM.htm
In Dallas... you can go to the sixth floor of the Schoolbook Depository... it's a museum called "The Assassination Museum"... they have the window set up to look exactly like it did on that day. And it's really accurate, you know, because Oswald's not in it.
- Bill Hicks
I visited the Book Depository. From that window, you would have to be a crack shot to hit JFK in a moving car. After that, I walked across the plaza to the grassy knol. Ray Charles could have made the kill shot from there.
Devil Dogs qualify at 200m and Swiss Rednecks at 300m... and the iron sights aren't "backup"...
I actually prefer my K31 to both the M4 and STGW90 platforms and could pop watermelons like JFK's skull all day and with one arm tied behind my back at under 100m.
Granted a member of the Nintendo/ACOG generation might have to be a "crack shot" member of the pussified male generation to make the shots, but Kennedy was killed before Al Gore invented the internet to shrink men's ballz and make him feel more adequate...
(motive and opportunity are different than means)
KD Course distances for marines are 200m, 300m and 500m, firing at the Able, Dog and Baker targets.
I hear papa Bush is a damn good shot. But he can't remember where he was that day.
Actually he was in Dallas and so was Richard Nixon. Seems like there was a CIA alums meeting that day? Just a monumental coincidence.
Yeah, gotta' have a plausible explanation for this massive trophy collection.
my roomate's step-mother makes $79 hourly on the laptop . She has been fired for 10 months but last month her pay was $18694 just working on the laptop for a few hours. see here... www.globe-report.com
I am till looking for that 45 APC Lugar that went missing after the Marine trials.
explain
Well at least they are still in the hands of criminals......
I'm shocked that the Dems did not destroy them while they had the House, Senate and Exec. offices.
PS I want it to be known, that I despise the Repubs. also...
I used to live by a cop who had a large fourth of July party with all the confiscated illegal fireworks he and his buddies collected. Quite an impressive haul and some kids were out some serious money.
They'd sit out on his porch drinking beer and laughing like hyenas as my horses hit the fences. I knew asking him to stop would be akin to asking for more gruel so my pathetic attempt at revenge was sticking a tarantula in his mailbox.
I'm sure the whole thing has to do with crime prevention and ballistic projectile research.
Miffed
One I knew in Illinois who was on their special guy tough cop supper dooper secret agent in charge of nefarious shit team had a bunch of stuff confiscated from criminals of the full auto variety. He used to shoot all the shit off on the 4th, including a mag or two into the totem pole he kept in his back yard. Yes, he had a massive totem pole in his back yard. Dude was crazier than a poop bug.
PS Read this line from above, again. And one more time.
"With the weapons on hand, analysts can rebuild destroyed weapons needed for evidence and match ballistics from thousands of samples."
Not being an armorer or firearm owner but did a lot of hunting when I was a kid, I cannot fathom how having all this stuff on hand would allow rebuilding destroyed goodies or matching ballistics.
Yo, we might have arrested you for trying to kill that cop in Ferguson and we know it's flimsy, but we just matched the bullets from Lee Harvey Oswald's rifle to you. NOW TALK! WHERE'S WALDO? Talk! Hook him up to the Tucker Telephone!
Knucks, just think of the wide-ranging parts inventory, "and matching ballistics" as the ability to re-barrel YOUR gun, or to replace a bolt/receiver as needed (to make your weapon match the crime). Hope this helps...
Bingo. That's precisely what I read into that sentence, although I doubt they intended it to come across that way. Another case of admission by mistake, revealing the sheer level of malevolence the state will stoop to if they want to punish you or anyone else deemed to be a 'problem'.
I purchased two SKS rifles from an off-duty Game Warden in Oklahoma about 20 years ago. He acknowledged to me at the time that they were confiscated weapons.
There should be little doubt in the minds of most people that the level of corruption and official misconduct has only grown exponentially worse in the so-called law enforcement community these past several decades. Just go to www.policemisconduct.net on a regular basis to see what I'm talking about. They're all a bunch of thieves and liars in my book. The Norman Rockwell days of Sheriff Andy Taylor and Mayberry RFD are long gone, never to return.
Miffed,
Tarantula? With your background and judging by some of your past comments, you could have been more 'creative.' BTW, did that neighbor die a natural death?
Well, my bugs can kill and I certainly didn't think that type of revenge would be appropriate for the crime.
Frankly, seeing the guy freak out in hysterics was actually quite entertaining. I didn't know he had such a spider phobia and he was quite portly so I was lucky he didn't have a coronary.
Part of me debated the nuance of the whole thing. Maybe I should have just blown it up with a cherry bomb. ;-)
Miffed
Yeah Miffed, I know what you mean. I had to walk home from the Co. Cop Shop, while they sat in the parking lot, drinking the beer they took from me.
They offered me a ride home, but I believe riding home in a cop car could be bad for one's health/home.
Sounds like your neighbor is lucky you didn't have any rattlesnakes/copperheads...
You should have started hosting annual 4th parties for Vietnam Vets suffering from PTSD while making sure they were all armed. That might have been interesting.
evil. just plain evil
I must admit, I get some of the best ideas from the fertile minds on ZH. Unfortunately they will eventually get me killed or put in jail. Maybe that's not such a bad thing. ;-)
Miffed
I'm a bit jealous. I've always wanted to shoot a 45 Tommy Gun. Must be a hoot.
It's probably one of the more memorable guns that you can shoot. Short bursts are easily controlled, surprisingly little recoil, heavy but well balanced, the barrel will burn you if you're not careful. Spray and pray is highly recommended, from the hip, at least once.
Conclusion. Keep your shit off the books.
armslist.com - search by state and no forms unless the seller is picky.
A friend told me once of this weapons cache. The Quantico FBI Academy is pretty cool and in a beautiful setting. They have ballistic and weaspons specialists as who provide training for FBI Academy agents.
Solve crime?
It's an open air extravaganza of crime on Wall Street, no forensics sideshow necessary.
Yeah, this collection is purely for the noble purpose of crime investigations. That is, those 'investigations' whose results were pre-determined science-fiction, and which are in dire need of a 'perp'. Sort of like a special-effects/props company working for a movie production studio.
So how many banksters responsible for the theft of trillions in global wealth and productivity, architects of the most collosally astounding financial scams in history, are being investigated? How many of them have enjoyed the coziness of a 2 AM SWAT no-knock raid with flashbangs, followed by the always-fuzzy physical beat-down for having the temerity to 'resist'?
The answers tell us everything we need to know about who the real targets are regarding any 'forensic' "evidence" gleaned from this massive collection of stolen weapons.