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Q1 GDP Now Just 0.3% According To Fed Model

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When we first exposed the world to The Atlanta Fed's GDPNow forecasting model (just 2 weeks ago), expectations were for 1.2% growth in GDP in Q1. A week later it was cut in half to 0.6% as dismal data just poured on. And today, The Fed model now predicts another 50% cut in growth to just 0.3% in Q1, led by a near 20% collapse in non-residential investment.

 

March 3rd... +1.2%

 

 

March 12th... cut in half to +0.6%

 

 

And now... March 18th... another 50% cut in growth to a mere +0.3%

As The Atlanta Fed explains...

The GDPNow model forecast for real GDP growth (seasonally adjusted annual rate) in the first quarter of 2015 was 0.3 percent on March 17, down from 0.6 percent on March 12.

 

Following yesterday morning's industrial production release from the Federal Reserve Board that reported a 17 percent decline in oil and gas well drilling in February, the nowcast for first-quarter real nonresidential structures investment growth fell from -13.3 percent to -19.6 percent.

 

And that decline is only getting started...

 

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In Gartman-esque terms, the trend for US economic growth appears to be from upper left to lower right... and accelerating

 

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Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:23 | 5899041 Id fight Gandhi
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No rate hike

More QE

Stocks will cheer.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:32 | 5899081 TruthInSunshine
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UE IS 5.5% !!!

Raise those rates, Mr. Yellen (Moshe), you Woody Allen twin-speak, bowl cut, midget boob, FFS!!!

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:08 | 5899243 Consuelo
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Got that right - 'she' sure as bloody hell ain't a 'BBW', that's for certain...

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:16 | 5899284 Greenskeeper_Carl
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So, "un-seasonally adjusted" and with an inflation measurement like the ones used in the 80s that were a lot more honest , our actual GDP was probably NEGATIVE 3-4% or so. I'll go with that number instead.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:50 | 5899156 zvzzt
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i'm not too sure about that anymore. there is a level that people get to that they understand something is wrong. Then again, there is very little alternative to stocks for some sort of yield and (more importantly by now), relative safety (confiscation, bank runs, physical threat etc). Losing only 50% is perhaps better than 100% with the alternatives... 

Yes and some gold/zilver/platinum etc, but not for 100%

Keep on dancing, but stay near the exit

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:04 | 5899229 lester1
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FANTASY LAND ECONOMICS CONTINUES !!

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:23 | 5899042 kowalli
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but it is still a recovery, gdp + 0.3%, good ?

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:29 | 5899073 Bluntly Put
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You still have to subtract out the deficit spending to see what the real economy less unpayable debt is doing, what about 4-5% GDP?

So, real, effective GDP of about -4-5%.

Of course we've been there since Obamco got in office with trillion dollar deficits.

.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:42 | 5899123 Winston Churchill
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And the correct defator, more like -8/9 %.

Just don't look down, whatever you do.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:02 | 5899222 ThroxxOfVron
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"the correct defator, more like -8/9 %. "

The leverage masks the lies.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:07 | 5899237 Bluntly Put
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Yah but 8% 6 years running is 48% or nearly 50% reduction in GDP. Things aren't that bad on the surface right? They must be hiding a lot of this toxic crap under thousands of feet of crap, err debt.

 

 

Wed, 03/18/2015 - 00:22 | 5900978 New Kid
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Recently they changed statistical methodology to push up GDP. Even with that, they could only squeeze out a measly .3% growth(obviously with some goal-seeking)?

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:23 | 5899045 SoilMyselfRotten
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Ok, now we have the pig in place....add lipstick in 3...2...1....

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:25 | 5899055 PeeramidIdeologies
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What's this? No happy St. Party's your layed off drinking games? You guys are all fukin work and no play around here...

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:41 | 5899116 Bell's 2 hearted
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well, someone has to work

 

i'm assuming O will be spending his time (like past few years) with ESPN filling out his basketball bracket

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:47 | 5899137 Philo Beddoe
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filling out his basketball bracket....that is code for massaging the anus for smoother entry. 

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:53 | 5899167 TruthInSunshine
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I have a wicked cold.

I am damned, to have been given such a drinking interfering virus, on St. Patrick's Day, like a bad case of the clap from kissing Lassie Erin McKringleberries Blarney Stone when I was all of a lad of 15 meself.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:50 | 5899153 PeeramidIdeologies
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The admiration I have for that man. The pressure to make those picks would be immobilizing.

Give the guy a third term!

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:30 | 5899056 JustObserving
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Q1 GDP Now Just 0.3% According To Fed Model

Not to worry, we can always manipulate the CPI lower by a few percent lower adding a few percent to the real GDP.  This game has been played since the early 1980s.

If you correct US GDP for this fake CPI adjustment, real US GDP is $7 to $8 trillion instead of $17 trillion. 

Truth is treason in a fascist, police state.

http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:11 | 5899258 Consuelo
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I just wish he hadn't jumped the looney by making (and sticking to) his 'hyperinflation' forecasts since 2010.  It somewhat tarnished an otherwise impeccable position and data series.

 

 

 

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:20 | 5899305 Greenskeeper_Carl
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Ya. While I do admire the balls it takes to make a call like that, it does tend to make him less convincing to some people, which is a shame because he puts out some great info.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:26 | 5899058 KnuckleDragger-X
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Damn, the futures so bright, just like the core of a nuclear detonation.....

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:28 | 5899062 Philo Beddoe
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Blue Chip Consensus. 

Son, get in here. Sorry, last homeschooling lesson for today. 

We have no clue or we are a bunch of shit flinging apes. That is what is known as a Blue Chip Consensus. 

Go play. 

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:28 | 5899065 mtndds
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blame it on the weather, transitory, irratiional exhuberence, patience, BULLISH.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:29 | 5899070 Kaiser Sousa
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Dow 20,000...

Gold $20...

Silver free.....

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:32 | 5899086 Philo Beddoe
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No way. They are going to pay us to take Silver off their hands. The LCS will just show up at your door with a dolly and pay you. Come on...answer the fucking door...I gottah get rid of this shit. 

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:38 | 5899111 Kaiser Sousa
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yeah...

peeking ot the blinds waiting for them to show up any minute now....

cheers...

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:47 | 5899140 Herd Redirectio...
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You know when gold has topped?  When the shoeshine boy tells you to buy some.

When there are commercials on TV, "Buy GOLD from us!  The price is up 1000% in the last 5 years.  Get it while its HOT!"

And stores open up, "BUY GOLD HERE"  (right now the stores say "We BUY your broken or unwanted GOLD")

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:06 | 5899224 Kaiser Sousa
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"The United States had been on a de facto gold standard since the 1830s and de jure gold standard since 1900. In 1913 the gold standard was built into the framework of the Federal Reserve. The law required the Federal Reserve to hold gold equal to 40 percent of the value of the currency it issued (technically termed the Federal Reserve Note but colloquially called the dollar) and to convert those dollars into gold at a fixed price of $20.67 per ounce of pure gold.

     The Federal Reserve typically held more than enough gold to back the currency it had issued. Bankers called the excess “free gold.” The Federal Reserve needed a stock of free gold sufficient to satisfy redemption requests that might occur in the near future. The Federal Reserve could increase the stock of free gold by increasing interest rates, which encouraged Americans to deposit in banks and encouraged foreigners to invest in the United States, shifting gold from the pockets of the public (both here and abroad) to the vaults of Federal Reserve district and member banks. Conversely, when the Federal Reserve lowered interest rates, gold would flow from its coffers into the hands of the public both at home and overseas.

     During the financial crisis of 1933 that culminated in the banking holiday in March 1933, large quantities of gold flowed out from the Federal Reserve. Some of this outflow went to individuals and firms in the United States. This domestic drain occurred because individuals and firms preferred holding metallic gold to bank deposits or paper currency. Some of the gold flowed to foreign nations. This external drain occurred because foreign investors feared a devaluation of the dollar. Together, the internal and external drains consumed the Federal Reserve’s free gold. In March 1933, when the Federal Reserve Bank of New York could no longer honor its commitment to convert currency to gold, President Franklin Roosevelt declared a national banking holiday.

     The Roosevelt administration’s policies regarding gold responded to this crisis. The policies unfolded through three phases. During the first phase, in the spring and summer of 1933, the Roosevelt administration suspended the gold standard. In March 1933, the Emergency Banking Act gave the president the power to control international and domestic gold movements. It also gave the secretary of the treasury the power to compel surrender of gold coins and certificates. The administration waited before employing these powers, in hope that the situation would correct itself, but gold outflows continued.

  On April 20, President Roosevelt issued a proclamation that formally suspended the gold standard. The proclamation prohibited exports of gold and prohibited the Treasury and financial institutions from converting currency and deposits into gold coins and ingots. The actions halted gold outflows."

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:14 | 5899275 Consuelo
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You'll know 'it is time' for gold, when the U.S. performs its final act of arrogance in either a border state of Russia, or in the South/East China seas.    That is pretty much all that awaits in my view.   Russia and China are not going to pre-empt it, but they are preparing for it at breakneck pace.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:29 | 5899074 Keltner Channel Surf
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As a Midwesterner, I must be misunderstanding Janet's Brooklyn accent, 'cause I thought she said the Fed were gonna move in a "beta-dependent" fashion, I assumed no hikes if any 20 DMAs breached ...

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:31 | 5899082 Bell's 2 hearted
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"And that decline is only getting started..."

and just wait ... till recent numbers out ... are revised ... downward

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:33 | 5899089 astoriajoe
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So 50% cut each time. At least we'll never get to zero.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:48 | 5899145 Jethro
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The Fed needs to stop reading about Zeno's paradoxes.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:33 | 5899092 WTFRLY
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The crash is almost becoming sexually arousing.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:36 | 5899104 Philo Beddoe
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Like hate fucking. 

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 16:39 | 5899621 sunnyside
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Dibs on Jen Psaki when it is time.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:41 | 5899121 PeeramidIdeologies
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It's a stage of the forth turning. Conspiracy theorists become sexy!

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:03 | 5899204 SoilMyselfRotten
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If it doesn't crash within 4 hours, call your doctor

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:17 | 5899288 PeeramidIdeologies
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If it doesn't crash in four hours call a friend.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:03 | 5899213 SoilMyselfRotten
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.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:33 | 5899093 Bell's 2 hearted
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redbook and ICSC - goldman same store retail sales out today (for  last week) ... both weak and below expectation

 

 

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:41 | 5899120 Fun Facts
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Good time for the FED to let the market fall so they can scare the politicians again and have an excuse to launch more QE and get them out of their boxed in situation.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:48 | 5899143 Bell's 2 hearted
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sure, why not? ... the ink is dry on the december lamed duck  legislation that backstopped derivative losses for banks ...

 

taxpayer has no qualms for unlimited exposure to losses in order that wall street hot shots can earn 7 / 8 figure bonuses

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:50 | 5899158 ejmoosa
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http://www.loopnet.com/Atlanta_Georgia_Market-Trends?Trends=AskingPrices...

 

Have a look at the Atlanta Office/industrial space trends.

 

Decide for yourself...but do not deceive yourself.

Recession Dead Ahead

 

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:53 | 5899171 madcows
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Check the forecast again tomorrow when Grannyellen announces their latest patience/qe/pomo intentions or lack there of.

Oh, and how much more accurate is this GDP model than the other one?  Aren't they all a bunch of fabrications and misdirections?

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:03 | 5899226 disabledvet
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Well...not that Wall Street doesnt have a bias of course...but I imagine the Fed dude from Atlanta wants to know how Atlanta is doing more than the Securitizer in Chief.

 

Otherwise whats going on in Missouri might look like an opening salvo.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:55 | 5899181 sudzee
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The FED despirately needs a rate increase to justify their existance. See, we printed a lot of fiat for our friends but look, we saved the world from catastrophy.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:07 | 5899241 Chuck Knoblauch
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If your model doesn't work anymore, change the model.

Consistency in this market is deception.

Another bumper sticker slogan.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:16 | 5899280 Hohum
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Quarter's not over yet--could very well be negative.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:31 | 5899360 Dollarmedes
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This is just an estimate. It could be negative RIGHT NOW.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:16 | 5899282 QQQBall
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They are gonna have to adjust this qaurter to be 4 months long.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:18 | 5899294 Dollarmedes
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New month by executive order: Obamuary.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:17 | 5899286 Dollarmedes
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What are the odds that 50% of the Macros change direction in the next two months before the initial print?

Because that's about what it would take to print positive at this point.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:17 | 5899292 Consuelo
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Don't worry, M2M says that even if they miss June, that it will only be a 'temporary' delay until the real deal in September - 'cause it's happened that way in the past and isn't unusual...   

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:19 | 5899298 Banker Buster
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Bernanke, QE is working wonders.  Fantastic job numb nuts.  I think ZIRP and QE  is working so well, we should do more of it.

Hey retards at the fed, time to change strategy.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:33 | 5899369 breakyoself
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They always have the weather to blame.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:44 | 5899427 Magooo
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Mr Scott ... we need more power... go to Warp 10 on the money printing ...

But Captun... she can't take ... she'll blow apart...

I don't care Scotty ... if we don't go to Warp 10 we'll blow apart anyway .... so make it so

Aye aye captun....

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:58 | 5899486 orangegeek
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0.3%?

 

and you know damn well it's a lot worse

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 16:04 | 5899506 ClowardPiven2016
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This can't be right! I heard on MSNBC that the US economic recovery was robust.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 17:26 | 5899752 Bumbu Sauce
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Sure am glad they(the ignoramus American electorate) elected that bright, clean, articulate negro to the highest office so that he could fundamentally transform the nation.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 18:59 | 5900102 iofera
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GDP is actually 3%, they're just a little sloppy with the decimal point.

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