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Saxobank CIO Warns: "Fed Rate Hike In June Is A Margin Call On Assets"

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While Bridgewater's Ray Dalio "hopes that The Fed will be very cautious about tightening," Saxobank CIO Steen Jakobsen explains in this brief clip that The Fed "is wrong, always wrong," and will likely raise rates in June no matter what. The Fed is boxed in, Jakobsen notes, and despite the weak macro data, changing direction now is unlikely - leaving the market surprised as it recognizes that "this is a margin call on assets," seemingly confirming Dalio's conclusion that, "inadequate attention is being paid to the risks of a downturn in which central bankers' abilities to ease are significantly impaired."

Jakobsen explains in 2 minutes why The Fed is boxed in and the market will be shocked at "the margin call on assets"...

And Bridgewater's Ray Dalio concludes rather uncomfortably,

Though the prices of risky assets are high, and the expected returns are low relative to traditional levels, these things are not in relation to existing levels of interest rates and liquidity. However, should interest rates rise and liquidity levels decline materially, that picture will change.

 

Further, though cash returns are terrible, few investors in risky assets have given much attention to how quickly losses of capital can be worse and what the appropriate risk premia should be to make them indifferent.

 

Additionally, in our opinion, inadequate attention is being paid to the risks of a downturn in which central bankers' abilities to ease are significantly impaired. Please understand that we are not sure of anything but, for the reasons explained, we do not want to have any concentrated bets,  especially at this time.

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Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:08 | 5898657 agstacks
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Wait, margin calls are bullish, right?

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:10 | 5898666 SilverIsKing
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It's a Margin Call on Asses, not Assets.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:14 | 5898685 Deathrips
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I call your margin raise of 1000000 electronic digits backed by nothing, and raise 100000000000000 electronic digits.

 

I'm rich right?

 

RIPS

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:19 | 5898702 TruthInSunshine
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Saxobank CIO Warns Old Yeller: "Hike Fed Funds Rate & The 401(k)s Get Sliced Throats, Ala Our Warnings Over TARP/TALP Not Being Approved On The First Request, Bitches."

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:28 | 5898738 LawsofPhysics
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I would love to see that fucker Hank just try and pull another "tanks in the streets" robbery, go ahead you stupid fucks, just ask for another bailout...

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:59 | 5898832 TruthInSunshine
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What would be the issue?

I foresee no difficulties if he or anyone else were to do so.

Seriously. American Sheeple will somehow, someway, magically rise up (assuming they were even mentally lucid)?

It's Orwell's Morning In Amerika.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:58 | 5898878 Gringo Viejo
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There won't be a rate hike. It would crash the debt/derivative pyramid. Total bullshit.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:07 | 5898955 TruthInSunshine
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So, you're saying that 1/5th of USSA's eCONomy is purely speculative, fart in the wind, vaporware ASSets that would be crushed into their actual worthless value by non-ZIRP/NIRP theft?

NOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:09 | 5898660 JustObserving
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Fed Rate Hike In June Is A Margin Call On Assets

The Fed dare not raise interest rates or it kills the golden goose called the stock market that has been preventing the US economy from falling into a deep depression.  Zero or near zero rates forever.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:11 | 5898668 LawsofPhysics
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so, more free money for the bankers and financiers then?   Oh yeah, that should really "help"...

either way, tick tock motherfuckers...

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 18:04 | 5899868 NihilistZero
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...the stock market that has been preventing the US economy from falling into a deep depression.

How has the QE powered bull market done anything to keep us from a deep depression???  It has pulled capital from the real economy solely for the benefit of the oligarchy.  If anything your statement should read:

...the stock market that has been preventing the US economy from ESCAPING THE GREAT RECESSION.

We could be building a coast to coast fiber network, repairing roads and highways, getting water from where it is to where we need it to be, etc.  Instead the FED has fueled the biggest speculative bubble in history so that the oligarchy do nothings and their sycophants can maintain their power and wealth.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:09 | 5898661 LawsofPhysics
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LOL!!!  Okay, but are they talking about real assets or paper assets?

Remember, these fuckers use "mark to fantasy" accounting and are in the "business" of selling debt and financial "products" of mass destruction.

Fuck em.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:13 | 5898678 KnuckleDragger-X
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Any rate increase we...might... see will be tiny but the gods of Wall st. worries that it might give people the wrong idea.....

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:47 | 5899126 Dollarmedes
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That was the exact same thinking regarding the Grexit. We all know how that went...

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:16 | 5898690 I am a Man I am...
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The only question that needs to be asked is if raising rates are good for the TBTF banks?  

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:21 | 5898711 LawsofPhysics
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Potentially, what are reserve requirements these days anyway?

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:58 | 5898898 indygo55
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Bernanke Shocker: "No Rate Normalization During My Lifetime"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-17/bernanke-shocker-no-rate-normal...

 

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:16 | 5898691 Brokenarrow
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saxo bank is a cia front

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 18:26 | 5899964 Carpenter1
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LOL!!

Look at all the BTFD'ers squirm!!

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:17 | 5898696 eatthebanksters
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I'll believe it when I see it...

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:22 | 5898709 Chuck Knoblauch
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What rate hike?

Sounds like market makers are up to old tricks.

A quarter of a point rate hike perhaps?

LOL...............

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:21 | 5898712 QQQBall
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25 bps... Run for your life!

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:26 | 5898726 Chuck Knoblauch
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It's the end of a free lunch.

Time to find an honest job.

 

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:40 | 5898764 ThroxxOfVron
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"It's the end of a free lunch.

Time to find an honest job. "

Criminals don't find honest jobs when one con or heist is completed, they instigate another con or heist.

IF you think that a measly rate hike is gonna clean up this mess you're certifiable.

Excess Reserves are still banking coin at The FED at rates the public cannot access.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:45 | 5899131 Dollarmedes
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Panic after a 25 bps hike: the sign of a robust economy! LOL

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:22 | 5898717 i_call_you_my_base
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You misheard. Yellen is starting to raise goats, not rates.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:25 | 5898721 ThroxxOfVron
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My friend Contango sez that WTI under $40 will likely put an end to this rate hike talk.

What a joker he is...

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:28 | 5898735 TruthInSunshine
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his partner is Cash, right?

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:26 | 5898730 FieldingMellish
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Rest assured the only asset that will be sold, and sold vigorously and publicly, will be PMs... even though nobody on WS holds any, apparently.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:28 | 5898741 Consuelo
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So in reality, the argument might break down into something as simple as this:

'How fast and to what level, would the S&P have to drop before a panicked Fed stepped back into the lurch with either a statement of re-affirmation, or an actual policy tool implementation...?'

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:30 | 5898751 Keltner Channel Surf
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Must be St. Pat's Day, but the headline reminded me of that one Blues Bros. tune, toward the end:  "last call for alcohol."    It'll be like "Hey, Fed Chair, hey man lookee here, draw one, draw two, draw three four rounds of QE"

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:40 | 5898805 swmnguy
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Who in the hell, I keep asking, buys T-bonds at 0.25 for 1 year, 1.6 for 5, 2.15 for 10, and weirdest of all, 2.75 for 30?  Even those with the numbest of nuts knows that locks in losses for decades.

So it's better to rent money at nearly face value to buy stawks at TFATH and lock in moar losses?  Good Lord, it would take Michael Jackson-sized doses of fentanyl to numb 'em up that good.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:41 | 5898814 ThroxxOfVron
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"Who in the hell, I keep asking, buys T-bonds at 0.25 for 1 year, 1.6 for 5, 2.15 for 10, and weirdest of all, 2.75 for 30?  Even those with the numbest of nuts knows that locks in losses for decades. "

Ask any insurance or annuity salesman, or the guy running your 401k.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:30 | 5899077 swmnguy
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Funny you'd mention the guy running my IRA (I'm self-employed).  I just spoke with him and he gave me shit for only kicking in $1k last year.  I told him I had had other spare money during the year, but I'd had the opportunity to get a guaranteed 5% return last year, so I'd taken it.  He perked right up and got a little smirk, and asked me what that opportunity was.  I told him I'd paid off my HELOC and put extra on the principal of my mortgage.  Wiped the smirk right off his face.  I like the guy, or I wouldn't deal with him, but it was one of those illuminating moments.  And I'm thinking he has no sensation below the navel.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:20 | 5899027 DonutBoy
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Surely you know already... Belgium

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:40 | 5898806 venturen
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It would be cheaper to Drone the Bankers and HedgeFund Elite!

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:49 | 5898847 disabledvet
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These are autonomous vehicles now.

 

They can be programmed to do anything.

 

Once they are programmed "that might be that" I might add.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:43 | 5898810 venturen
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What's the matter stealing a billion a year in his mini ponzi scheme isn't enough for Ray? Can't be paying people interest on their money for Christ sake....you have to give it to crooks on Wall Street!

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 13:45 | 5898829 disabledvet
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How do you pay for a 500 billion dollar fighter jet that doesn't fly without an equity bubble?

 

Fed must raise rates to support that.

 

Can't afford a loss of confidence in the dollar.

 

That's why Mish is wrong and Zero Hedge is spot on.  George W Bush and Dick Cheney destroyed the dollar thus destroying the economy.

 

All everyone got in return was the biggest war since World War II.  "Gottaay for that."

 

We used to do that with gold.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:07 | 5898959 Shizzmoney
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They are getting worried that the Fed will raise rates.

And they might....but only to create a downturn which in turn, will cause the Fed to PRINT EVEN MOAR after this grave mistake.

You can't 100% taper a Ponzi scheme.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:16 | 5899001 q99x2
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Arrest Ray Dalio for being a financial pervert.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:17 | 5899004 Jack Burton
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SURE it is!  Everytime the Fed even hints at a rate increase, the market goes due south!  If they ever did raise rates for real, it would in effect be a margin call.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:27 | 5899060 Sudden Debt
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HAHAHAHA Like the fed will actually raise rates :)

They can’t. AMERICA WOULD BE FINISHED!

I wonder how many would suddenly realize the house of cards would be flat out on the table before it actually happened.

 

But the fed won’t do it and there will be another short squeeze of the herd who tought they could get rich shorting the crap out of the market.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:34 | 5899099 polo007
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According to Natixis:

http://www.ge.tt/5osnEOC2/v/0?c

March 13, 2015

What are the differences in economies where debt ratios are very high?

Debt ratios (public, private and total) are at present extremely high in a vast majority of OECD countries. How does this change the functioning of these countries' economies?

• Fiscal policy becomes more restrictive and can hardly become very counter-cyclical due to high public debt ratios;

• The private sector deleverages, and monetary policy can no longer use the credit channel;

• Central banks have an incentive to conduct expansionary monetary policies to facilitate deleveraging.

In countries where debt ratios are very high, we can therefore expect to see:

• Weaker growth (a restrictive fiscal policy, private-sector deleveraging);

• Deeper recessions (lack of counter-cyclical capacity of fiscal and monetary policies);

• And yet a sharp rise in asset prices (equities, real estate), due to expansionary monetary policies and long-term interest rates that are lower than growth rates.

Paradoxically, excessive debt ratios can be positive for equities and real estate.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:39 | 5899112 FJ
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0.25% rate hike...come on...IT'S NUFFIN

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 14:44 | 5899129 teslaberry
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there is only ONE reason the fed could possibly raise rates.

to destroy china and russian financial markets.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 19:17 | 5900173 litemine
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That was Sarcasm......I hope.

This is one of the reasons that China/Russia have created an alternative to a system that is controlled and all but the Bankers lose....all the time. Yes, other MINION make money by selling their souls.......Those should face crimes against Humanity........But Alas...TEAM USA is not a member.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/minion

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:03 | 5899225 Jano
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The Fed "is wrong, always wrong,...

NO FED is always CORRECT, but the chap does not get it.

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 15:31 | 5899363 prudent_investor
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If the market is scared by 25 pips rate increase:) than would be happen with markets if IR moves 100 pips up??? Amen:)

1987th drawdown of 30% in one day would be just a small correctuion, or?:)

Why to wait it if there is a lot no-brainer sell shorts!!!

Read here more:

http://prudentvalueinvestor.blogspot.com

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 17:22 | 5899739 besnook
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if the fed raises rates it willl be to chase money into equities. if they do this it will most certainly be the end. the only buyer of bonds will be the fed but 100s of billions in savings will get a boost. is this the helicopter of choice for the fed?

Tue, 03/17/2015 - 17:33 | 5899773 Luckhasit
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Bwahaha.  Like I said earlier, I double dog dare ya!

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