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Guest Post: How Putin Can Win The Economic War Against The West
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What are the objectives of the global economic war against Russia? Will the West disconnect Russia from SWIFT? Will Europe and the USA impose more sanctions on Russia? What's happening to the oil prices? Will Syrian President Bashar Assad surrender? Pravda.Ru asked these and other questions in an interview with Ron Holland, author of many best-selling books
It has been a year since the US economic war against Russia began by the West. Which objectives have been set and have they been achieved?
I would suggest the objectives have been three fold but in fact I would date the sanctions war from Friday August 30, 2013. This was when President Putin offered a peaceful alternative at the last moment to stop the US military operation against Bashar al-Assad and Syria that was within hours of starting. Surprisingly the US called off the attack and this set in motion a series of events contrary to the goals of the US administration. I believe both Russia and China covertly played the Treasury debt card in order to protect their client states, Syria and Iran, from the impending US invasion.
I wrote in my September editorial at that time; Did Putin Quietly Play the Debt Card Over Syria that both Russia and China might have covertly played the Treasury debt card in order to protect their allies, Syria and Iran, from an impending US invasion.
Thus the planned Syrian invasion was to first secure the land route to build the Qatar-Turkey pipeline designed to end European dependence on Russian gas and pipelines. Second was to put US forces on the land border of Iran when they had secured Syria in order to ratchet up the pressure on Iran to give in to Washington demands. The third reason was to close any potential base options for the Russian Black Sea Fleet in the Mediterranean on the Syrian coast just prior to the move on Ukraine and Crimea both planned to vacate both the Russia fleet and bases as well as secure the oil and gas shipping pipelines and Black Sea transit. None of these objectives were attained.
Another major defeat was the Washington & London scheme to force Russia out of SWIFT, the Society of Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunications, as this entity is how banks globally transfer funds. But on Monday March 9, SWIFT didn't kick Russia out but rather offered Russia a seat on the board.
Now this wasn't because SWIFT was trying to be fair but because the Western controlled entity is now faced with competition from CIPS, the new China International Payment System which Russia plans to join. This will offer a new option allowing global banks to communicate and transfer funds that does not depend on fair treatment or a "hands off" attitude by US politicians.
So although Russia has escaped most of the sanctions and threats to date, the financial costs to Russia have been great for resisting the US, as low oil prices, hence currency war and a growing list of US sanctions have caused Russia to incur significant costs for resisting Washington domination and control.
Because of anti-Russian sanctions the EU lost €21 billion. Such data was given by the Spain's Minister of Foreign Affairs and Cooperation José Manuel García-Margallo y Marfil. When will Europe go the length of lifting sanctions that were imposed under the pressure of the US from your point of view? Or will they be strengthening sanctions?
Well there already appears to be a split between many of the EU nations and Germany and the foreign policy dictates of the United States. While the length and severity of the sanctions are somewhat dependent upon Russian actions regarding the Ukraine, they would certainly strengthen should Russia or the separatist New Russia forces advance further into the Ukraine along the lines. Still ultimately the lifting of sanctions will happen only when the political and economic costs to Europe exceed the pressure that is brought to bear by the United States. My recommendations further down in this interview would cause a quick lifting of sanctions because they threaten the profits of German and European banks to Russian "Swiss style" competition.
Some experts believe that the reason of economic crisis in Russia are not the Western sanctions, but decrease in oil price. What do you think?
While I think it is an organized action by the US and Saudi Arabia, it's success to date in dramatically lowering oil prices has been possible because of the global recession and worldwide drop in demand for oil. The price of oil would have pulled back in any case but the policy has made the downtrend worse and of a longer duration.
But understand this is a complicated situation not just aimed at Russia as this also dramatically cuts revenue for Iran another nation in opposition to US hegemony. Also Sunni Saudi Arabia rightly fears Shia Iran, as most of the Saudi oil resources are right across the Persian Gulf from Iran including the world's largest, the Ghawer field and most of the 15% Saudi Shite minority population lives in the area where the reserves are located. Remember the Shite/Sunni divide in Islam makes the Israel/Arab conflict pale in comparison and the Saudi Shites are treated quite badly so they and the Saudi oil reserves could become a fertile ground for Iranian actions.
Is it an organized act by the US and Saudi Arabia? If it is so, then Obama deliberately endangered the shale miracle in the US, didn't he?
Yes, as I answered in the question above it is an organized act by the US and Saudi Arabia but the leadership of Saudi Arabia jumped both at the chance to close the fracking and shale oil production competition in the United States as well as to put pressure on their arch enemy Iran.
Also much of the oil production industry votes and supports Republican candidates rather than the Democrats so Obama is not paying a huge political price. Finally although shale oil production is not profitable unless oil is near $100 a barrel, the public had already loaded up on these junk bonds and Wall Street had made their money so it was time to fleece the unsophisticated investors. Regardless of US shale oil production or losses, the opportunity to bring financial pressure against Iran and Russia was worth the cost to the Washington political leadership.
What is needed for the oil price starting to rise at last? Tyler Durden believes that it is Putin who should surrender Bashar al-Assad, who does not give permission for gas pipeline installation from Qatar to Europe. Do you agree?
It is too late to surrender Bashar al-Assad and allow the Qatar pipeline as Washington has bigger fish to fry, ie. Russia and Iran the last major energy suppliers outside of US domination and control. Two events have to happen before oil gets expensive again.
First, the price of oil will rise when the global recession has ended and the world economy picks up again. I believe the recession in China and the rest of the world is just starting and it is related to overhanging amount of government debt and bonds floating around the world. I really don't know how governments and the central banks get us out of the looming debt crisis without wholesale debt repudiation.
Second, Washington must decide that the disadvantages of artificially low oil prices hurt the US economy more than the intended victims Iran and Russia.
As for Germany and the EU, Hitler's violent goal of lebensraum for living spaces to farm, trade and grow food for the Reich at the expense of the Russian people has today been modernized to a longing for Russian natural resources ranging from timber, mining to oil and gas in order to benefit Europe and Washington. I believe their goal is economic rather than a military threat and this is just an expansion of an ongoing natural resource grab outside the Middle East as the long-term challenge for world supremacy between Washington & Wall Street VS China and the Asian tigers slowly develop.
The issuance of unredeemable government debt and bonds are the ultimate control mechanism by the Western interests utilized in order to keep politicians, national leaders and nations in line and march in lockstep to their economic programs. Russia under Putin is not over indebted like almost all other western nations thus allowing Putin to exercise leadership independent of European and Washington demands and this makes Russia in their eyes a threat to the continuation of the fake debt democracy system across the West.
The ultimate goal is to destabilize Russia by destroying the economy and limiting government revenue and growth by holding oil prices at historically low levels. To do this they must depose Putin, the national leader with the highest poll approval rating in the world and replace him with a compliant quisling type of leadership submissive to western interests as has been done in Ukraine. This goal could be achieved due to Russia's extreme over dependence on energy resource revenue.
In my view it wasn't the arms race, total failure of Russian communism to benefit the masses nor the inability to compete with the western market economies that overthrew the communist party leadership in the former Soviet Union and the rest of the Warsaw Pact countries. Rather it was the government debt burden of Moscow and it's other eastern European client states that eventually destroyed the Eastern Bloc as political leaders increasingly tried to improve their low standards of living and satisfy consumers through government borrowing from western banks.
This policy worked for the West and the Soviet style communism is thankfully no more but this is the same policy used today by Washington and in the European Union in order to control the destiny and leadership of what should be independent national governments. As you see with Greece, even in voting democracies where the citizens demand a change, there can be no change because all politicians are subservient to powerful foreign banking interests.
I would suggest that Washington is indeed acting rationally if their goal is to preserve their power base as well as the support of powerful banking and economic interests. The US Empire has indeed reached it's zenith of power and authority in the world and as America heads downhill as have all major empires in the past. Therefore it is crucial to buy time by attempting to conquer or control energy resources around the world hence why the US is involved across the Middle East and increasingly in the Ukraine and is surrounding Russia and Iran.
Their goal for Russia, now the ultimate ally of a resurgent China is economic vassalage, territorial dismemberment and the development of "spheres of influence" just like Great Britain did to India and the western countries including Russia did to a weakened China in the 19th century.
Will Putin go the length of it?
Well this is a tough question for a non-Russian to comment on. He is the best politician on the planet evidenced by his poll numbers and there is no question he is a patriot and wants the best for his country, the people and of course your powerful oligarchs.
I love the Washington propaganda always lambasting the evil Russian oligarchs because every country including the United States have their own powerful interests or oligarchs that seek to use government as a tool for their best interests. This is nothing new or sinister as government and politicians everywhere have always operated this way.
Yes, I believe Putin and Russia will survive this attack on Russian sovereignty and it's over emphasis on energy resource revenue which is a mistake made by Russia not by western interests. This economic war will end in stalemate because Russia cannot be subdued by invasion, history shows us that and the increasing alliance with China and other BRICS will help with better economic growth.
But I don't consider a standoff as a victory for Putin or Russia. It is just maintaining the status quo with Russia still at risk from western expansionism and the control of your natural resources. Russia is now engaged in an asymmetrical war with the American and European Union primarily over resources and the strategy and tactics really differ between the West and Russia. Washington failed in goading Russia into a military invasion of Ukraine as this could have drawn in other European nations thus further weakening the Russian economy but the economic, currency and financial warfare will continue hopefully short of military action.
To date Russia only reacts to western sanctions and economic warfare against your energy industry thus there is neither real pain for the west nor any reason for them not to ratchet up the sanctions against individuals, banking and other interests. They are logically attacking your weakest link, the energy and financial sectors and they certainly do not expect a major response from your side. Still dumping Treasury debt by Russia or China would probably be counter productive and both nations would be smart of liquidate US dollar debt in an organized regular fashion during this near term period of tremendous dollar strength. This is probably your last chance to unload US Treasury debt at a profit.
A defensive war strategy even in an economic war is not a recipe for victory but rather a guarantor of future wars or ultimate defeat. Putin and Russia can win this economic war quite easily if you think and act outside the box so to speak. The West is legitimately attacking your economy at its weakest link, your over dependence on the energy sector hence why low oil prices and the gas pipeline revolution in the Ukraine were smart moves by your energy adversaries.
Utilize your strengths and western weaknesses in your peaceful economic and financial responses to the challenges they have made to your country. I've spent my entire career in the financial industry and this is not rocket science on how to successfully counter western political moves against you.
The weakness of the Western banking and economic interests are massive government debt, the end of the dollar as the world reserve currency and nationalism within the EU. There is no way citizens or companies can escape the high taxes, massive debt service costs and the inability of citizens or companies within Europe to escape their high tax, regulatory environment that is killing the economy of Europe in order to defend the primarily German banking interests. Financial privacy and all wealth in Europe are at risk from future bail-ins where depositor's funds are used to pay for excessive bank lending losses. We've already seen it in Cyprus and soon it will happen in Greece and the PIGGS countries.
To win, you must have other powerful economic interests outside Russia who can benefit and profit from a sovereign independent Russia. The US has destroyed financial privacy and confidentially around the world and no nation can stand up to their powerful threats to other banking interests which means the private wealth of the entire West will eventually be at risk of bank bail-ins, confiscation of retirement funds and confiscatory tax rates when the bond crisis finally hit because there is no secure alternative to protecting honest earned wealth
As I've written in earlier editorials, Russia can win the financial/energy/economic war only by finding new sources of revenue outside the energy sector and playing on its unique strengths. A low tax rate and friendly regulatory environment to attract European/American industry and money is a start. It appears Russia is now moving to offer economic citizenships and tax advantages in order to attract entrepreneurs as I wrote a couple of months ago and this will help.
For example, I'm a skier and where can you ski in the winter and enjoy a tropical climate the other 6 months outside of a couple of very expensive locations in Switzerland, Italy and France? You have skiing at Krasnaya Polyana less than an hour from Sochi on the Russian Riviera the site of the 2014 Olympics that could become another Hong Kong with the climate advantages and low taxes and secure banking opportunities. Plus you have a relatively empty Olympic village that could be remodeled into condos and flats for foreign entrepreneurs and investors.
Finally Russia must get aggressive in the economic war. You can win this economic contest in 24 months, if certain special zones in Russia simply are allowed to copy Swiss banking rules and regulations, as wealth will always flow to secure locations where taxes are low. You know what banking privacy and security did for Switzerland, it made a poor country with few natural resources the wealthiest nation in the world. You will have foreign banks and financial institutions lining up to open offices in Russia if you can guarantee financial privacy to a degree and wealth protection in total.
This will break the monopoly of West in financial and banking as well as their power to threaten you. The coming bond debacle guarantees this will work as I've written earlier every nation has wealthy interests and their own oligarchs so why not build support for Russia from wealthy foreigners as they transfer a portion of their wealth as taxable income at a very low rate to your nation. This will end the economic war.
Will there be set peace in Ukraine in the near future? Which role will the US have in it?
No the Ukraine is caught between competing sides in the East VS West conflict. Sadly it will likely end up like Libya, Iraq and Afghanistan as a battleground and non functioning state at least economically and maybe militarily caught between the US and EU verses Russia. Russia will protect the Russian speakers and likely will open a land route to the Crimea and maybe as far west as Odessa thus cutting off the Ukraine from the Black Sea. Still all Russia needs is a Ukraine non-aligned with the West or a member of NATO. The US will continue to promote instability in the Ukraine for the foreseeable future.
Ron Holland
Ronald Holland is the author of several books as well as numerous special reports and hundreds of articles on finance, investments, history and politics. He speaks and moderates frequently at financial and free-market conferences and has developed Swiss oriented financial products in the US and Switzerland and his lived and worked in the US, Switzerland and Canada. He was head of a bank trust department, president of an investment firm licensed in 47 states and involved in resort real estate marketing and sales. He consults with a wide range of individuals, corporations and entities.
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Switzerland works because people trust the swiss with money. Russians? Not so much...
You have to be a fool to trust any FIAT. Switzerland works because they store gold for oligarchs.
Well it used to be.......
If Russia were to offer financial privacy and low taxes, and tell the USSA regulators and tax collecters to fuck off, then Russia has a promising opportunity to attract capital.
The Western Banksters are Colossi, Giants with feet of clay. One good push, and they will topple, taking the fascist USSA one world order down for the count.
Taxes in Russia are already lower than in US. Income tax is leveled at 13% for residents (compare that with US fed+state income tax), 30% for non-residents. Corporate profit tax is 20% (in US is 15-35% depending on corporate income, but is about 34% between 335K and 10 millions). Dividend tax is 9% (in US is now 10-39.6% !).
Nobody has to move a finger, just let America self-destroy itself (something that she has gotten very good at after the first Irak War...)
LL, those giants with feet of clay pre-date the Romans and are described in detail in the book of Daniel.
cement; next is a boating expedition, jimmy hoffa style. i can see the bubbles already. before the push off i'd ask my malignant guest to keep an eye out for shiney, ha...
Great Article, sking in Sochi to beat the Banking cartel. Thanks,
No, you all should not down vote Barndoor. His comment is accurate. There is a problem with vast numbers of the Russian people. They will not tell the truth.
This matters. Say you are on a drilling rig in Siberia, and the data coming up out of your hole in the ground isn’t what your company wanted or expected. All too often, if you are a Russian, you will not tell YOUR OWN BOSS the bad news. It’s a cultural thing.
For reasons having to do with culture, you’ll find American companies like Exxon doing a lot of the oil work in difficult areas where nothing can get done at all without teamwork, trust and candor.
There is a strange symmetry between Russia and America. In America, the leadership has gone putrid. It is brutal, corrupt, greedy, treasonous, stupid -- you name it -- if it’ bad, it’s probably true. But still, even so, among the American people, there remain large swaths of trust, openness, generosity and good will.
In Russia, on the other, at least for now with Putin, there is decent leadership. Putin is popular in Russia for a reason. He is guiding Russia through dangerous waters with skill. On the other hand, out among the Russia people, there remains a strong legacy of peasant inertia and sludge. The Russian people can be mobilized, if an army comes across the border. Then they are unstoppable. But they can’t overcome their stolid, distrusting peasant dishonesty even in small matters. This makes difficult and inefficient the enterprises of daily life.
So, yes, if Russia could be Switzerland, then Russians would get rich like the Swiss. But how do you get them to Switzerland, culturally speaking?
And, while you are at it, tell us how we arrest our own descent into darkness? How do we save the fish that is America now that the head has gone bad?
We are all stuck with our history.
After a few years in private banking and wealth management I can tell you that swiss bankers aren't any safer than any other bankers. They dont care about you or your money as long as you buy their investment products. The only difference with Russians is that the Swiss have had much more time to refine their sales pitches and service level, plus the global PR campaign is helping instill the image that Switzerland is safe. Its not.
I agree for the most part with everything Mr. Holland is saying. The one aspect I disagree with though is framing the entire conversation as an economic war that Russia must fight to win something for itself.
Russians surely realize by now that the U.S. government acts - globally - precisely like a psychopath. It's become a monster and control freak completely divorced from any notion of morality and fairness. It has become the enemy of democracy and the exact kind of tyrant and bully it seeks to depose elsewhere. And true to form of any psychopath, it derives much of it's sense of dominance by keeping everyone else on this ball of dirt on their knees. That's exactly how you expect ANY psychopath to act in a group. And just like any psychopath, the U.S. government is blind to the fact that global 'King of the Hill' is and always will be a temporary position. Something always happens where, in a moment of weakness or opportunity, the next psychopath whacks the reigning King on the side of the head and claims (temporarily) the title of new King of the Hill.
The U.S. has turned the earth into a bunch of rowdy fifth-graders playing schoolyard games, rather than acting like all the nations on earth are a community - any and every one is only as strong as the weakest one. The person at the top of the hill should be extending their hand out to help others to the top of the hill. It's plenty big enough. Instead, the U.S. government tosses sticks and rocks at anyone not on their knees who dares to move closer to the top (= threatens their dominance). And of course I'm singling out the U.S. government and - by default - the oligarchs that usurped it and comprise the power behind it. The U.S. citizens are not invited to the top of the hill. Anyone that reads ZH for a few days can figure out that we're just another plebe on our knees somewhere further down the hill.
So I don't have any clever ideas for how Russia or anyone else can get to the top. Strive to be a better psychopath, I guess. Eventually, U.S. misfortune and some other country's luck will result in change. The better option is not to play at all.
What I will toss out as the lesson we should have learned from the experiment called the U.S.A. is that the real power of a country comes from it's middle class. If that forms the bulk of the people, then there is a sense of contentment or at least social justice and hope. The U.S. has since gutted itself of it's middle class and has no real power from it's citizens anymore. It's spiraling down to the point of the very privileged few, the impoverished, state-dependent many and a few left-over middle class that probably work for the government.
Russia does not NEED to compete with everyone else on the hill. They are arguably more resource-rich than the U.S. What Russia needs to do is whatever it takes to build its own economy and it's own middle-class. It's under-utilizing the biggest, most valuable resource it has: its own people. I think it's fair to say that Russia has come a long way in the last couple of decades. It's better, but it's certainly far from what it could be. I realize the U.S. isn't helping matters, but there's far more Russia can do internally despite the U.S. and western sanctions.
The situation in Ukraine is a good illustration of that untapped potential. Where is Russia's Motor Sich? Where is the Russian aircraft engine industry and their advanced turbine manufacturing capability? I know Russians are smart enough to build them because it's mostly Russians living in Ukraine building them for Motor Sich. Russia can build reliable nuclear reactors (not that I care much for them) and rocket engines. Why isn't Russia a threat to Germany's manufacturing and precision machine industry? Russia should be kicking their ass on labor costs alone. They don't need foreign investment or IMF loans - they just need to encourage Russian businessmen to take the risks and have access to the cash to build those factories and compete on quality. Forget competing on price alone - everyone is fighting for scraps of trailer-trash manufacturing. It's not even worth attempting. And I don't mean just encourage existing oligarch businessmen - they're parasites that live off of other's accomplishments. Russia could do with less of them, but so could any country.
The U.S.A. I thought I knew would be there helping Russia the whole time, not trying to overthrow their leader, sanction them into 'obedience' and put Russians on their knees. Fuck the sick, psychopathic U.S. government - that's MY burden to bear and MY problem to solve. It shouldn't be 145 million Russians burden and it's damn sure not their problem to solve.
Pave, we are at the end of an age, and constants get turned into variables during the transition.
Look on the bright side, tomorrow we have a super moon creating a total eclipse of the equinox sun on a track between New York and London at sunrise on a triple witching day. Probably should call it 'stick it to an algorithm day'. We all know how the boyz like their symbolism, and tomorrow is the cheapest day to bet.
russia could revise its' own contsitution to resemble the original document from our founders. learn from history and back the money with gold. keep the money system out of political hands!!!!!!!!!!!! allow the citizens to control money by true democracy(original swiss plan). the whole idea has to an have an extremely important element, a balanced budget law that states that spending falls in line with tax rates that DON'T over burden labor!!!!!!!!!!!! the budgets have to allow push pull mechanism to allow for the natural expansion and contraction of markets. therefore a properly run budget would have a a surpluss NEVER to be spent by politicians. during contraction times the surplus would be used. during the expansion the opposite, once again NEVER to politicized. SEPERATION OF MONEY WITH STRICT PUNISHABLE BY DEATH CONSEQUENCES!!! oversite of this would achievable by true democracy without political influence.
if i was king, ha, lol, i know fucking better, it will NEVER happen...
(without political influence-lol'g again)
great, well thought out post paveway !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
paveway for prez! plus a quad
Thx for sharing this.
It was very wierd when the Ruskies had a $hitlo@d of cash and didn't go after european bankrupt motor companies. They could have bridged the technologic gap in no time and they would have all the aforementioned privileges...
In Greece there is a theorist called Traianou*, who had analyzed this hypothesis, along with the Königsberg occupation eg. no real Gernamic democracy and the IMF bound russian central bank and came to the conclusion that we are just witnessing the good cop -bad cop scenario...
*not a real last name, actually unkown author...
Produce his 9/11 evidence?
To what end?
Even if compelling, incontrovertible evidence were revealed by Russia Today, who in the USSA would give a shit?
Nobody cares anymore, with the possible exception of a few dissidents found on websites like Zero Hedge.
OMG, I'm a dissident.
And by association a terrorist
Fucking parasites!
Yeah, they're everywhere!
Darn them to heck!
Vlad extends his gratitude to Zero Hedge for its continued editorial support, as well as the support of individual Zeroes who have contributed generously through Western Union care packages.
Comrades, you will not be forgotten, and many pleasures await you upon your safe arrival behind the Iron Curtain!
Walk it off, lampshade.
Yep, just another 6 week and 1 day Ukie troll spewing the usual inanities. No wonder their country is becoming the garbage pit of europe.
Thank you for that public service announcement from our friendly neighborhood government troll.
...And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
That Georgia is always on my my my my my my my my my mind!
for a shot of penicillin in the morning.
Merci pour le rire!!!
He didn't say Soweto girls, moron.
You must have pulled the late shift slot today. Hope you brought a snack, a dictionary and some good tunes.
Bravo.
How many wheelbarrows full of hyrniva did Chocula pay you for this drivel
Enjoy your turnip with the proceeds
.
Two potato. (Shhhhh, do not tell this to the Latvians.)
You do know that Russian peasants would not eat potatoes because they had eyes, meaning souls. At least potatoes are an asset, and have a metaphisical twist.
Porky Chocula.
I LIKE IT!
OT: Varoufakis' Middle Finger was a fake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx-1LQu6mAE
I'll be damned, it *was* faked! Internet trumps reality every time. BTFD.
Old Russian saying...
Never interrupt your enemy while he is busy shooting himself in the foot...
It was Napoleon Bonaparte who said, "Never interrupt an enemy when he is making a mistake".
+1
Napoleon and the Great Army : http://napoleon-livre.com/photos_portraits/grande-armee-soldats/napoleon...
Ben Hollande : http://s.tf1.fr/mmdia/i/24/2/francois-hollande-lors-de-son-premier-bain-...
Their goal for Russia, now the ultimate ally of a resurgent China is economic vassalage, territorial dismemberment and the development of "spheres of influence" ...
If Russia is truly concerned about territorial dismemberment, economic vassalage, and falling into someone's sphere of influence, I daresay they are looking in the wrong direction and should maybe think twice about that ultimate resurgent "ally" of theirs.
China is making ludicrous claims based on maps from the fifteenth century out in the Pacific. Their case for owning half of Russia is much stronger than that and you can damned sure bet on the fact that the paperwork is already on file in the Forbidden City.
LOL why are the western trolls so worried about Russian dismemberment? Is it because they want the whole piece of the pie to themselves if they can put the oligarchs back in control. Is it because by Putin taking on the Chinese and selling them 50% of oil and gas infrastructure projects the J-mafia can never then grab the resources for themselves. F you J-mafia NGO b**ch. The Chinese are smart. They are willing to partner on projects, the Euroturds had their chance to buy into projects but they went the sanctions route hoping they could take over Russia by sowing instability on its borders. Now that they see the Russians partnering up with the Chinese who have the capital, they are screaming murder hahhaha
Listen up you Euro Brusselsprouts, you have tried to invade Russia many times in history, you will never get the chance to kiss even an centimeter of Russian soil you F@#cktards
Hi Cos,
There's one of me and a dozen of you.
Yes, it's obviously true. I'm the troll army.
Me.
All by myself.
Over here.
(waves in a desperate bid for attention)
You are alone because you are too dumb for others to join you. It's kind of embarrassing...
It's true that I operate on a different level than many others. I think there are a lot of lemmings in the world who fancy themselves as independent thinkers. They probably feel the same way about me.
Tarabel - instead of whining, post your case. According to Tarabel, Putin is a bad guy because ... According to Tarabel, the Kiev Junta is right to resort to military attacks on a civilian population, instead of engaging in dialogue because ...
See what you can come up with, but I'm pretty sure you won't because you got nothing.
I sense quite a bit of cognitive dissonance in your comment
"LOL why are the western trolls so worried about Russian dismemberment? Is it because they want the whole piece of the pie to themselves if they can put the oligarchs back in control."
I probably count as "western troll" for you, too. I'm not worried about "Russian dismemberment". Are you or are you not? Where does Russia... end, exactly? you go like "...hoping they could take over Russia by sowing instability on its borders"
On it's borders? Borders are thin lines, aren't they? Are you sure you don't mean... near it's borders? In the Russian... "backyard"? this is... Sphere of Influence, isn't it? but then you go on with
"Listen up you Euro Brusselsprouts, you have tried to invade Russia many times in history, you will never get the chance to kiss even an centimeter of Russian soil you F@#cktards"
So it's us Euro Brusselsprouts that want to invade Russia? Aren't we usually depicted as weak, effeminate, hedonistic Conchita-Wurst-like by the same Russian sources that talk this way?
I'm confused. Are we Euro Brusselsprouts now heroic or post-heroic? Strong invaders or weaklings? Nationalistic brutes or fearfully hiding in our life-styles?
the author of the article goes like this:
"Their goal for Russia, now the ultimate ally of a resurgent China is economic vassalage, territorial dismemberment and the development of "spheres of influence" just like Great Britain did to India and the western countries including Russia did to a weakened China in the 19th century."
well, yes. that's how empires behave. to the point that Russia is working at it's sphere of influence, too. The Balts and Ukraine because there are Russian nationals, there. Crimea because it's an important naval base... for projection of power. To Cyprus, Syria, the Middle East, etc.
let me see, when was the last time that this was an explicit, stated goal? Oh, yes, Tsarist Russia. Imperial Russia. The Tsar of All Russias, though, was a bit clearer then that: he wanted to reach Jerusalem, and make the whole Middle East a Russian Sphere of Influence if not straight an assembly of vassals (of course at the expenses of the Ottoman Empire)
and this, btw, was the double whammy that led International Jewry to hate the Tsar. The "Russia to reach Jerusalem" and the "Jewish Pale of Settlement" inside the Imperial Desmenes of the Tsar
"those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it". I don't mind you exposing imperial attacks on Russia, btw. What I mind is the completely one-sided non-historic non-factual... propaganda
then Russia is behaving like an empire. the underdog of the current bunch of empires, perhaps, but nevertheless an empire, complete of Tsarist "Cossack Romance"
Ghordius you make Conchita Wurst look like the BEST thing in the EU borders lol which are as thin as her lips.
You are a real annoying passive aggressive Eurokraut and a perfect biatch to pick up the dirty plates at the next meeting of the World Jewish Congress.
I hope this land claims thingy gets rolling.
Time for the United Indian States of America and the Kingdom of Hawaii for starters.
can you win an arms race if you are two faced?
Pravda, parent company of Poynter Institute ;-)
Next to that tarbel NGO scumbag you are really getting close to taking top honors for dumba$$ of the year.
Oh come on,
I worked hard for that honor. You can't be doing the recount thing on me now.
Relax, David Lee Roth, you're a shoe-in. Besides, nmewn isn't your competition, it's slime trails like Captain Butthole (nuke ISIS now), Amerikan Parrot (iofera), Amerikan Embarrassment (Augustus), the Latvian squadron of the Kiev Kartofel Korps, and retarded kittycat (pendragon).
Whew, that's a relief.
I knew I could depend on your vote but I appreciate you putting in the good word with the rest of the humorless apparatchiks scurrying around the hive mind.
Apparat'chik' lol that coming from a USA AIPAC chick bimbo with silicone boobs the size of hormone fed HENS ahahah
Did I ever mention that you have an enviable avatar? Very sexy. The blondes do have more fun, don't they?
Especially the Slavic blondes. Did anyone ever tell you that you look like Nutnyahoo with a blond wig on?
Cat fight!
It ended when I pulled her wig off and it revealed Vicki Nudelman
So my dearest Cosmos, when I make an obvious joke comparing communists to progressives, that's the point you go into orbit like Sputnik, leaving only one question to be determined now.
Which one are you? ;-)
I'm Cosmick lol
More like Kosnik ;-)
I propose a 500 word limit on all pieces.
Yeah, 500 words is about the max that simpletons like you can handle.
What a great proposal!
Let us cut everyone down to your size.
I think there was an assassination attempt on Putin at the same time (roughly) as the killing of his political opponent. I think it was the same killers from Ukraine. I think he has been in hiding and is currently represented by a double.
IMHO
They can turn a bag of chips into a fuzzy calico kitten in real time now.
In case we go to war with Albania.
Why Albania? I know, they keep to themselves and are shifty and untrustable.
However, Albania is hard to rhyme.
With near 90% approval rating Obama's only hope is assassinating Putin so that midget Medvedev quisling can open the gates to Western plunder
Most people didn't understand that they can't tell what is a victory
Might be a SWIFT moment to contain a derivative in the mason jar. Place your bets, the event begins in 5 minutes.
At this point all Putin has to do is consolidate his place with China, set up parallel/competing systems and WAIT. He isn't trying to defeat the United States as it exists today, he's planning to defeat what's left of the United States after the next leg down when we not only lose large portions of our global influence but whatever shreds of our credibility still exist.
He plays chess, we ponder why the red checkers don't taste any different than the black checkers.
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I don't think Putin necessarily wants to defeat the US, just the oligarchs that are currently in control. Something he is intimately familiar with and still in the process of purging the Russian 5th column. A safe, secure and honest America is in Russia's best interest. We are in a grave situation here and I think the Russians will facilitate certain disclosures to help us clean house. If WWWIII kicks off, we all lose and the value of that hidden Intel is useless.
What is a defeat of USA?
The US has been a captured operation for some time....if we ultimately fail to clean our own house of treasonous elements, you could consider that a defeat.
continuation of the status quo in Washington
There really is no defeating Russia or the US unless one side just says uncle. Both have way too many nukes. In fact, if things go as bad as many of us think they may, it could become a burden on China/Russia/Europe to keep the US stable. You do not want an insane old man with nothing to lose realizing the only thing of any value he has left is nukes and oh yeah, doc says he's only got one day left anyway.
Two great land masses The unuinted states and Russia .
Sooner or later there Gona be a fight. Being southern I'd choose that over a one world oligarchy.at least I'd have respect .i have no love of Bolsheviks . But I have respect for Russian and Germans . No respect means war.godspeed
Canada is a pretty big land mass as I recall.
Kyddyl --
Yes, but it's uninhabited.
Don't trust Putinski! He will eventually be forced to sell out his own country to further the ZioNazi agenda. The CIA, Mossad and the KGB, together, already control him.
"The CIA, Mossad and the KGB, together, already control him."
I would be very interested to know how they do this; please, do share.
Can you provide any explanation, details, and information?
Obviously, no.
As many of you know I am not the biggest fan of Russia...that said I find it interesting what Donetsk Republic is doing with their religion:
http://america.aljazeera.com/multimedia/2015/3/in-rebel-held-donetsk-rel...
More European countries(including Russia) should stick to their religious roots, otherwise they are overun by a specific group of peace, who are not very keen on integrating.
fascist canukies still jeling your porky chops down there ?
9/11 Truth: Judges shocked by first time seeing video of WTC 7 collapse in Denmark court
to Gallistic. The same way Obama is controlled by AIPAC, the Shylock International Banksters and the US millitary-industrial-complex. ;-)
Interesting that Obomber was ready to aattack Syria until China and Russia threatened to dump all their Treasuries
I thought Congress put the brakes on Obama's War. How naive of me
Queue our creation of ISIS.
Bombing Syrian granaries and Weapons drops that went to ISIS rather than the "moderates"......oopsy
Obama is pure evil
No such things as "moderates" there. As soon as they(moderates) gain power, they turn into Islamists.
Chilling analysis of the Nemtsev assasination and the planned color revolution in Russia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4kK-xQqEW8
Outstanding Piece, thanks for the link !!
The simple fact that Australia turned and changed its mind about the new China bank and the UK confirmed it and Germany France and Italy, joined as founder members shows you just how much support the the fig leaf faggot Kenyan monkey fronting the motherfucking shit for brains Washington NWO crowd can only mean one of two things.
Either they realize the faggot has lost the plot and has terminally fucked the US to become a dependency third world enclave of obese food stamp addicted morons where kardashian asses are more important than feeding your kids,
Or they are trying a back door sabotage strategy when it is up and running.
Either way, I'm off to Sochi to talk to some exceptionally smart Russians about setting some financial services operations to hide western capital.
At least they won't roll over like the Swiss bankers did and fuck their clients who were smart enough to realize they were being ass raped by western govs
The morons will get the bill in the end through bail ins, US included because you can be sure the fucking bankers will not pick up the tab.
For my money, I think the assholes like Camoron, and the other fuckers in Europe and Australia are thinking self preservation and are not fucking smart enough to sabotage the new China bank,.
Even they are not that fucking stupid they cannot see that having a fucking promiscuous bath house trawling fraudulent faggot black monkey in charge is not a basis for a sound bet.
Well we know that the Chinese have the largest economy in the World, but I have my doubts that the USA is the second largest economy especially given the fact that numbers are pulled out of some AIPAC federal job nominee's ass.
That's why the film White Tiger symbolises a return of the West as Invaders by showing a ghost German tank that appears everywhere
Sounds interesting. I'll see if I can find a copy.
Speaking of Tigers, you ever see Kelly's Heroes? Yeah, I know, they used Russian chassis for their fake Tigers but they did a pretty good job anyhow.
There is this thing, I believe they call it a "torrent" but has no water...
Yes, they do call it that, AJ. But I'd prefer a DVD to share with the non-computerites I know (if it is any good). Yes, I could burn a disc but I'm an Ebay whore anyhow.
Of course you knew, or suspected, that already.
At least the whore part, right?
Who's got Vlad's suicide watch tonight?
Do you realise that you're not smart enough to recongnize that some of us have a memory longer than two days?
Your same comment month after month gets very lame.
Get a new handle.
had too many already...
Maybe he has fifty names?
He's too stupid, or lazy (or both) to know how to do that...
Watch this shit, I am going to send the DOD/DOS trolls into a fucking feeding frenzy:
At this rate, very soon having a red Russian passport will be worth more than a blue US passport. Already in the Middle East the Blue US passport is worth fuck all and even a bit embarressing to have. I swear, if the dems win in 2016 they will gut the United States like a fish and it is game over. Send me to a tax-free zone in Russia where I can ski, sunbath and hang out with Russian chicks. I will gladly give up the blue passport for that. Besides, everyone knows that the Russian Empire will be the last bastian of Christianity when Obama the Anti-Christ opts for a third term if the Dems appear to be too weak to win.
Don't despair. God, Jaweh and Allah will disappear in the dustbin of history ...... whitey will prevail !
Putin has at his disposal the weapon of mass Zionist destruction: Gold for BTUs.
If he unleashes that, the West and Zion will be in big "doo doo."
The banksters need to repay us.
Gold for BTUs
Absolutely the only way.
What's the ratio?
nanogram/gigajoule?
"...stop the US military operation against....Syria that was within hours of starting. Surprisingly the US called off the attack..."
The attack was called off because the American people were overwhelmingly opposed to it. My Congressman, a TP Republican, had his phone lines swamped with calls that were 500-1 against attacking Syria. Online comments replying to news articles were also overwhelmingly against it.
But for some reason, the American people still believe that Russia under Putin is a threat. Hopefully, wisdom will prevail before Armageddon.
Tyler Durden believes bitchez. Can I get a witness
The Samson Option by the tribe is one huge, universal orgiasmic, human failure !!
I'll soon be Trollin' for piks.
The ice is rotten
Can't jig no moar.
Ask yourself: Who the hell controls Putin? He meets with Russia's head rabbis, he goes to the the holohoax museum and shakes Nutteryahoo's hand. Has he sold his
Russian soul ?
May be but maybe not.....
Just check the religion of all those oligaracs that either fled Russia if fear of Putin or were arrested by Putin....it takes some digging since all media in the West is controlled by jews but let me know what you find out.
:)
Squid.
He met the bloody jews.
he went once to holohoax.
he says, that there have benn more victims in Ocviecin, than the jewish victimis, he is totally open in this question and he protects the interests of people, who are not members of the tribe.
Putin is controlled by Putin.
I do not know the price in money, which could buy him.
He is a patriot in a sense and extremly clever.
He takes a shit about the tribe from Tel Aviv.
Oh yes, yes, tell me state media organ of Russia, emphasis on ORGAN. Tell me, tell me, tell me how pooty poot can win... tell me, big guy...
opening Russia to the banks and economically defeating the west this way, is more than dangerous.
The bankers will buy everything and get their prey. Russia will end up in the hands of S. Adelsohn and Kochs and their like tribes men.
The Swiss have worked hard to be neutral in world politics and historically developed trust in their banking system and currency. (Recent events unfortunately excluded) You can't be Russian and be Swiss. This is a stuipid idea.
Swiss no longer trustworthy.
Russians have suffered enough with the 20th century marxist, leninist experiment. Putin should not try to be the new czar- a guiding hero and father figure the slavic people seem to need and look up to.
How are the AIPAC Czars working out for you appointed by the Uncle Tom in the White House. Are the self chosenites what you need to look up to little goyim.
Just sit back and wait for the next 2008.
The financial bozos are on a suicide mission, their first kamikaze strike in 2008 nearly succeeded, next time they will do it.
Who needs nuclear weapons?
The self destructive power of Western finance will do the job for you.
how about quietly taking the other side of the paper silver shorts, and holding as a kind of hostage . Push me too far and I call delivery. Is there something i,m missing ? some reason this cant be done or would be counter productive ?
Hunt Brothers
While I agree with some points, and while I am very critical of US policies and the western banking system, I can't get awyay the feeling that the author of this piece wanted to please too much (note that this has been submitted by pravda.ru). While I can detect some truths...., I also suspect a lot of ignorance and narrowmindedness.
Good insight into Syria and Ukraine I didn't fully understand. No one has explained that the Qatar pipeline was meant to replace RUs Ukraine gas pipeline and cut them off from EU.
Of course the Qatar pipeline doesn't prevent RU from selling to China and shifting the global economy east and actually marginalizing EU as just another fiat economic basket case.
I also didn't understand that NATOs goal in Ukraine was to deny RU access to the Crimea Navy base threatening the US military's protection racket to weaker nations like Saudi.
The West has had a banking boom with it's inevitable consequences, debt.
Putin just has to let Western debt destroy it's economies.
1) Banker’s only have one product, debt (loans/mortgages).
A banking boom has to be accompanied by a debt boom.
2) Debt is just a time shift of your money from the future to the present.
The loan/mortgage is issued and spent now, the repayments come in the future with compound interest.
A debt/banking/finance boom is the period when the loans are issued and spent before the over-whelming effect of the repayments becomes obvious.
3) Compound interest is an exponential function.
At some time all exponential functions charge off towards infinity.
Low interest rates delay the time when the exponential function charges off to infinity, but compound interest is still an exponential function and will still charge off to infinity.
Debt crises have plagued civilisations since the dawn of time.
In 5000 years mankind and bankers, whose business is debt, have never learnt how to manage it correctly.
The short term rewards of the financial/banking/debt boom always blind everyone to the consequences of the repayment phase.
(Ref. "Debt, the first 5000 years" David Graeber)
What happened to his bodyguard?
Why on earth would Russia want to attract the Swiss bankers who are plotting with their friends in Frankfurt to overthrow Putin and conquer Russia?
Banksterism is in nobody's interest. It's the speed train to human extinction. Not to mention pleasing your enemies doesn't make them friends.
For all the length of the article, I did not find it to be insightful. It is pretty much a muddled stream of conscious thought.
Is this the famous Ron Holland who wrote such outstanding books with titles like :"How to make a lot of bucks creating pyramid schemes" AKA "How to make BIG Money in Network Marketing: Wide 'N Deep"?
Surely a man to listen to ...
Russia can create a national public bank in direct competition to their BIS central bank. The sovereign national bank would offer low interest loans to all national and international corporations to build industry and infrustructure in Russia. Corporations would immediately take advantage of government issued contracts with the provision that all loans for the contracts come through the national public bank. This would sap economic power from the West as employment and wages rise because of these favorable financial terms.
The BIS Russian Central Bank would wither on the vine. Should the BIS central bank object, well then, there is always the Russian military and the gulag to change their mind.
Generally, the BIS will not disappear until there is military enforcement of a new banking structure and prosecution of current private international and central banks. Governments currently are owned by BIS central banks and it can not be expected that our representative governments will do what is necessary to restore the economy.
to win, better public infrastructure
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better commercialism, global leadership in Asia "manufacturing", world class equipment and ideas in every building in the world
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China can help, but it looks like they are spitting some pretty obscene 200 year old politics with Europe
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threatening peoples with nuclear deterrent is not the best way to win economic war