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Lufthansa Germanwings Airbus A320 Crashes In French Alps; 148 Feared Dead
Update: The plane's vertical height trajectory...
Moments ago, a Lufthansa Germanwings Airbus A320, flight 4U9525, on a Barcelona to Dusseldorf route, was reported to have crashed in the area of Digne, in the Alpes-de-Haute-Provence in southern France, an area which French president Hollande said is "very difficult to access." According to Plane Finder, the Germanwings plane, callsign D-AIPX, was a 24 year old A320 and part of the Germanwings fleet. Germanwings is a low-cost affiliate of German airline Lufthansa, which was created in 1997. Tuesday's Airbus A320 crash has been the first accident in the history of Germanwings.
French Interior Minister is heading to the crash site, Le Monde reported. The information was also confirmed by the local authorities of the Alpes-de-Haute-Provence.
UPDATE CRASH The aircraft was delivered on 1991-02-05 to Lufthansa http://t.co/pFdVDioV0e pic.twitter.com/KqMiU7ctNq
— AirLive.net (@airlivenet) March 24, 2015
Last few positions of the @germanwings flight plotted on a map pic.twitter.com/UX5G1gYGX7
— Plane Finder (@planefinder) March 24, 2015
According to initial press reports the plane had 142 passengers on board, with another 6 in the flight crew.
It appears the flight had sent out a distressed signal at 9:47 UTC, minutes before its final moments:
BREAKING Distress call was received by ATC at 9:47 UTC http://t.co/Ah5H6qxIRp pic.twitter.com/FBYoIWnYkD
— AirLive.net (@airlivenet) March 24, 2015
Plane Finder data shows the last known location of the airplane:
And the same from FlightRadar:
Germanwings flight #4U9525 (registration D-AIPX) was lost from Flightradar24 at 6800 feet at 09.39 UTC time. pic.twitter.com/vZaQMUlLaZ
— Flightradar24 (@flightradar24) March 24, 2015
As Plane Finder also notes, below is the rate of descent of the flight in its last moments.
The weather conditions at the time of the crash were calm:
ALERT Weather conditions were calm at the time of the crash, French weather reports say - @la_chaine_meteo http://t.co/oP1Fmv2O2w
— AirLive.net (@airlivenet) March 24, 2015
French president Hollande has added that it is unlikely there were any survivors in the crash.
#BREAKING No survivors expected in French Alps plane crash: Hollande
— Agence France-Presse (@AFP) March 24, 2015
There is currently a French EC-135 flying above the crash site:
nearly perfect loop around crash area by @Armee_de_lair EC-135. #germanwings @Missilito pic.twitter.com/oedXpF89td
— nassime (@willambeIli) March 24, 2015
According to Sputnik.net, over 240 French firemen and 210 police officers are heading to the crash site. The flight was declared in distress at 10:47 local time near Barcelonnette, according to the Directorate General of Civil Aviation.
The wreckage of crashed Germanwings Airbus A320 is located at 6,500 feet in the mountains, the French Interior Ministry said.
This is the first plane crash on French soil since July 25, 2000 when Air France flight 4590 en route from Paris to New York City crashed in Paris suburbs, Gonesse. All 100 passengers and nine crewmembers on board the flight died.
Full coverage of the early news from AFP:
Lufthansa issued the following brief statement:
"We do not yet know what has happened to flight 4U 9525. My deepest sympathy goes to the families and friends of our passengers and crew 1/2
— Lufthansa (@lufthansa) March 24, 2015
"...on 4U 9525. If our fears are confirmed, this is a dark day for Lufthansa. We hope to find survivors.“ Carsten Spohr 2/2
— Lufthansa (@lufthansa) March 24, 2015
The Dusseldorf Airport website crashes:
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RIP. Very sad.
Yes, RIP, thoughts for survivors...
Hope Jen doesn't accuse Russia of BUK launches.
Karma is a bitch, lots of dead European folks in Ukraine due to the actions of the EU. Maybe they should of sanctioned the real killers. I feel sorry for their families. But I sure hope some ECB or Eurotechnokrauts were on that plane.
Maybe you should think twice before posting something. Even after re-editing your comment it didn't get any better.
I only added to it about the Eurotechnokrauts. There is nothing to think twice about, karma is karma. And Nuland said it FUCK THE EU>
Pretty sure everyone's dead.... before we even looked for survivors.
I wonder who was on that plane.
Secret Merkel Memo: When in doubt, blame Russia. It was shot down by one of Putin's invisible Buk Missiles.
I wonder how long it will take to release the black box recordings, and recordings from the Air Traffic Controller?
Or is the German government going to pull a MH17 and hide the crucial evidence? Just Curious.
Hmm, probably depends on how many long-range Ukrainian fighter planes were in the area...
You mean NATO plane pretending to be Ukie fighters. <g>
Having said this, I feel deep sorrow for the dead passengers and their families.
I can only imagine the horror of the passengers last moments.
Remember when the Lufthansa plane crash landed on the wrong runway at Mexico city .... neither black box was discovered .... hmmm .... Latin controllers don't like English .... remember the Canary islands .... two planes collide on the runway .... hmmm ? Planes don't just fall from the sky .... check for Jihab wearing passengers .... remote crash site will impede investigation !
That was quite a low blow, COSMOS. As Homer Simpson has noted "Karma can only be portioned out by the cosmos." But he was talking about the real Cosmos, and not you. Your opportunistic interpretation on this event where real families are now suffering dearly kind of puts you in the same category as an ambulance chasing lawyer.
Do any of the infrequently idiots here want to interpret and tie this thing to global warming, or gays in the military, or any other unlinked conspiracy theory?
You have had thousands of Europeans blown to bits by artillery in Ukraine and not one word or grieving on the streets of these western European cities. One plane goes down and its like the biggest tragedy in the world because some guys on vacation fell out of the sky. Screw these Euro news channels and citizens. I dont really have any feelings for them, they have no feelings for my people, instead of condemning and placing sanctions and sending these crooks to war crime tribunals, they want to give them lethal aid. To blow up more people that want their voices heard that they dont want to be part of this Euro empire.
There is no causal relationship between an airplane accident, and whatever your gripes and complaints and peaves are about politics, money, or territorial disputes. You added no value to the discussion, and your comments are more along lines of bad faith and ill will, that could actually be detrimental in ways. I hope that doesn't reflect on your attitude in how you handle your personal affairs. Your statement was manipulative and opportunistic.
I believe in Karma. What goes around comes around. I am pointing out the disproportionate wailing on the part of the Euro media in comparison to their silence and lack of pictures of the war crimes committed in their name. The coup happened when the EU did not get its deal signed by Ukraine. They are financing a war machine turned against the citizens of European cities in Donbass. FUCK THEM, the manipulative and opportunistic fucks are the ones in Brussels and their backers like you.
Oh, for God's sake, Cosmos, do shut up and reread the comment you are replying to. Or are you gonna automatically tie any plane crash on let's say US soil - where plenty of innocent American citizens would die, including babies or children - to an American intervention on foreign soil and then attribute that human tragedy to bad karma?
Actually, I lean towards Putin's position in the matter, and I am American, born and bread. I tend to side against manipulation and bad faith. COSMOS, you should stop trying to read into events and people more than what is there to be readily seen. It reflects poorly on you and on the positions that you support.
do you really think we do not grieve for the thousands that died in Ukraine? you have a seriously strange view about western europe
it ties with your strange "Nuland says Fuck the EU, so Fuck the EU" which you seem to take as if a saint was complaining about a devil
F@#ck you Ghordius, your comments have never shown any grieving. You are a sock puppet for EU policies that are killing innocent people who are murdered in their cities by artilery funded by the ECB and IMF because they dont like when true democracy speaks rather than through their coups or hand chosen candidates. F you EUROBureauRAT !!
how are the ground conditions in moscow?
I tawd I tawd I saw a pussy cat...all rolled up in a knot
cosmos, I have to admit I don't come to ZH for the Ukraine war news, and I'm not fond of showing my feelings in such an environment
you might have noticed that I have made some comments about my wish this conflict should stop
personally, I think you simplify the whole thing a bit too much. like this thing about funding, or your bunching together of the EU and the IMF. or who was behind your "coup"
best seen in your "Nuland said Fuck The EU, hence Fuck the EU, the driver of this madness"
I agree, Karma is Karma :)
Judging by the downvotes you are getting I suppose you are getting Karma too.
On the other hand who or what regulates Karma?
There is more to this life than meets the eye.
I know you have a sense of humor as we went toe to toe in the past.
By the way, I upvoted you.
There is no such thing as Karma.
But even if there were, these kind of comments are totally inappropriate - even by ZH standards - at a moment when 150 people just lost their lives.
I'm sorry but that is bullshit.
They launch an ICBM from California yesterday that is meant to incinerate millions, there is no other reason for it.
$500 in weapons in Yemen goes to "terrorists"
We all have to die sometime.
Personally I do not like to see people suffer, but then again Greek female doctors I heard are going into prostitution. There is Auschwitz, Dachau and more.
The Eisenhower Death camps.
There are murderers in our governments. No one is innocent.
I know from personal experience karma is real.
Your statement, "We all have to die sometime." confirms that you know karma actually isn't real. Death comes for us all, not just for the bad people.
Also, ICBMs are a strategic deterrent. We don't actually intend to "incinerate millions" with these things; we keep them to deter aggression. The 50-year detente between the strategic arsenals of the US and USSR should make this obvious to even the most casual observer.
Not that this has anything at all to do with the topic here.
I suppose you forgot Hiroshima and Nagasaki
Then again conventional bombing destroyed Dusseldorf, a city which had no military consequence. All civilians.
Take your argument about deterrent and put it in a garbage can.
Judging from statements made from pilots who drop these things, they claim to have a clear 'conscience'
Maybe things would be different if someone was dropping napalm on their wives and children and mothers and fathers while they are dropping the same shit on other families.
Karma exists and is coming, of that I am sure, just don't know when.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not hit by ICBMs, which had not even been invented in 1945. Little Boy and Fat Man were definitely NOT developed for a deterrent purpose. Neither was napalm.
Karma is a lie. Death comes for us all. Only through the grace of Christ can a man enter the kingdom of God.
Hmmm, it seems like the State Department is hiring fundamentalist Christians to spin their propaganda lines. I have no issues with your personal beliefs, but I acknowledge your attempt to divert the threat and create a flame war.
Just remember, the US was the ONLY country EVER to drop Nuclear Weapons on civilian centers. Spin that one away...
It's evident from the State Department's behavior over the past 25 years, highlighted by engaging in reckless wars of aggression and regime change in places in the world that pose little strategic threat to the US, that their "propaganda lines" would not even rhyme with the beliefs of a fundamentalist - or even nominal - Christian.
Far from spinning away the nuking of population centers in 1945, I find this to be one of the ugliest chapters of 20th century US foreign policy. The Japanese empire had been crippled at that point. We could have embargoed the islands until they sued for peace. Or some other solution. I'm not a big fan of FDR or Truman. Or Wilson. Or Lincoln...
They knew the bomb was coming .... that's why they sunk the Indianapolis (yes they had spies duh) .... a bit late .... they didn't prepare their population .... it took two bombs (four days apart and closing in on Tokyo) to get their attention .... and 30 fucking days to admit the had a problem, Houston .... and agree to surrender talks ?
Touched your hot button .... you're grabbing at straws .... Puno de Pajas ?
Do you know what the difference was between Jesus and the rest of us?
He knew they were coming for him. Was he scared? Probably.
Could he have fought back or hid? I think so. He reportedly had many followers, he was young, charasmatic and healthy and could have fled or put up a good old fight as in revolution.
He didn't.
He loved his enemy and disagreed heartily with their way of life. He also went willingly to his death and asked God to fogive them as they didn't know what they were doing.
His death was an illustration how we should live and we ignore it. Dropping a nuke or sending an ICBM is no different in my eyes. Neither is the threat of it. It is genocide and with that statement I think Jesus would agree.
If I am wrong I am sure I will find out one way or the other.
You would do better to focus on Dharma...
Mmmmm, no you won't, you'll just cease to exist. Your consiousness will revert back to it's original state, nothing. You did not fear, did not worry, did not fret, did not suffer, did not think, did not brood, did not obsess, did not want. You didn't exist and you were fine. You didn't exist for eternity and you were fine. So will you return to this state and will be equally fine. You see, without consiousness, you are not conscious to even care.
Yes, sure, one has to leave open all possibilities (which includes we may be bits and bytes in an aliens super computer, or we are perpetually reincarnated as the buddhists would have you believe).
I suspect though we revert back to our original state and that we are vastly less important in this universe than our primitive, arrogant and self aggrandising brains will have us believe. Shock horror, can it be, is it possible that we have no greater place in this universe than that of a fly or worm or humming bird or python or polar bear?
Rejoice in your irrelevence and you may feel the weight of the universe lifted from your shoulders and the voices inside your head may be rendered mute. When your mind is quiet and the convoluted and half cocked stories about men living inside whales and two of all the earths plants and animals taking a ride on a big wooden boat and prophets acending to heaven on winged horses and all the other innanity is sinply let go, then and only then can you perceive the absolute wonder of our existence and it's impermanence.
Did you notice I never mentioned men in whales or a big wooden boat.
I spoke of life and how one man 2,000 years ago decided to approach it.
He believed in God, some people don't. That is an individual choice.
However, as it was reported, he decided to let them take him. He didn't ask another group for a catapult to help him fight his accusers.
As a human being he decided to stand by his words. He walked his talk. Not the kind of people we see much of today.
+ + + + +
It requires no critical thinking at all to believe in annihilation theory.
As C.S. Lewis pointed out, if Christians weren't telling the truth, and were instead trying to invent a religion, we could have made up a much simpler one! While reasonable Christians note the difference between the Old Testament stories, most of which were meant to be understood poetically, rather than literally, and the New Testament, which chronicles the widely-observed and reported words and deeds of Christ and the aftermath of his death, virtually no atheists - reasonable or otherwise - make distinctions. Requires too much thought. The seductive nature of atheism is captured right there - it's easy, and it is highbrow elitist.
That's easy. One is imaginary, the others aren't. LOL
Killing innocent person (like the US do) is punishable by the same God that you worship.
Here's a reminder.
The Gospels' Jesus never existed.
The Gospels are a 4th Century CE (don't use A.D. anymore, for obviousl reasons) Work - courtesy of Constantine and Friends.
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/
No need to unbrace.
Downvote?
Don't be afraid of the Truth. The Truth shall set you Free...
So America's constant invasion and attack of other countries are to deter agression? I don't think so. It IS aggression.
That is not what I said. Go back and re-read.
Agreed. That's not what he said. Stirring up mud in the water doesn't contribute to an interesting debate.
Of course Karma is real. There is always an effect - good or bad - from our actions. We call it "result" when we are aware of the original action, and we call it "fate" when we can not connect the result with the original action.
Do any of you think there is collective Karma for entire nations?
so are the green futures sign of condolences?
"at a moment when 150 people just lost their lives..."
I presume you equally mourned how many gang bangers got killed over the weekend in Chicago. & I bet you were equally sad each of those, what was it, those 9 or 10 times Bin Laden got killed.
What's the point in mourning death? After all, our governments deal in 'death for profit' on a daily basis.
"Also, ICBMs are a strategic deterrent. We don't actually intend to "incinerate millions" with these things; we keep them to deter aggression."
& howz that workin' out 4 ya?
Poverty, and the criminal element that comes with it, will always be with us. This is a completely different topic.
This topic concerns people loaded on a plane who died screaming, with no idea what was going on, or what to say to their children who were crying, "Mommy, Daddy, I'm scared! What's happening?!"
"howz that workin' out 4 ya?" The US strategic deterrent arsenal has been working out for us very well since roughly 1960.
Poverty is no crime. Corporations that pollute the atmosphere for a few bucks are the criminals.
Maybe other than possibly a medivac crash, Parents who drag their kids along for gratuitous air travel are shortsighted and have put their childrens' lives at risk for no good reason.
That is not what I said. Go back and re-read.
Seriously, what kind of parent would strap their children into a glorified soda pop tin filled to the gills with avgas for a few extra days on the slopes?
Where do you draw the line?
Airplanes?
Cars?
Bicycles?
Electricity?
How can you try and prepare your kid for his/her future by removing any/all risk?
I start by avoiding low budget airlines mired by labour disputes and having maintenance done by a third party who's sole motive is profit.
Seriously, what kind of parent would strap their children into a glorified soda pop tin filled to the gills with avgas for a few extra days on the slopes?
The same sort of parent that will strap their children into an automobile for a Sunday drive...which is far, far more likely to kill them.
Aviation travel is the safest per passenger mile.
You are far more likely to get killed on your way to, or from, the airport than you are traveling by jet.
Aviation travel is the safest per passenger mile.
Wrong, rail is safer. Trains @ 0.2 deaths per billion miles vs. airplanes @ .5 deaths per billions miles.
So you are 2.5 times more likely to die in a plane crash than a rail accident.
My Karma ran over your Dogma.
I saw it on a bumper sticker so it must be true.
KaRMeN Gia ?
thanks for the lift in a totally disintegrating thread---
Agreed. Every week ZH comments are sounding more and more like FoxNews/HuffPo comments (all from users with around 1 year or less). It's getting to where I hardly spend anytime on ZH anymore. Just read the headlines.
*placeholder for future joke that will become funnier as the corpses become less fresh*
too late. :P
Planes are starting to become a one way ticket an early life retirement. Horrible. Hopefully they can at least bring home all of the bodies. RIP.
My guess is their fate was rather swift and painless. I'm not very confident this fate will befall the rest of us.
Another one :-(
I really hate flying and this doesnt help. I'll stick to trains, busses and ships I think.
RIP and condolences to the relatives.
If you're that worried about it, you should stop taking showers without your 'safety' lead boots.
Fuck you asshole. Some people dont like to fly because we dont like heights. Now go on, be a dick about it. Karma is a bitch, you'll get yours too.
[get yours too] For what? Telling you that there's a much higher statistical probability of slipping in the shower than dying in an airplane crash?
http://www.nsc.org/learn/safety-knowledge/Pages/injury-facts-chart.aspx
You don't have Norse DNA mate ?
I do, and I prefer the salty sea instead of the fucking clouds.
I am with you black bishop. I drive now unless there is an ocean in the way.
yeah I'm flying soon too, and hearing these kind of news certainly don't help.
First check the passenger manifest.
How many Greek Fin negotiators were on the flight?
First intelligent comment in reading top to bottom.
What immediately stands out is the sudden -14144 feet per minute descent rate.
Rapid/explosive decompression?
Air pocket? Had an uncle that was flying over the alps and his plane hit an air pocket and dropped straight down ~300ft in a split second. He said it was the scariest shit he has ever been through.
I had a relative experience the same thing. Many times. He'd black out momentarily at the bottom as the automatic pull out device on his Stuka took over.
I was on a Delta flight from SLC to PHX.
I'd say we dropped 1000 ft from the time that it took.
That was the worst flight I had ever experienced.
That was just the begonning of the fun.
The pilot must have been brand new. An entire training crew was with him.
He shut off the engines over Cordes Jct,, AZ. He restarted them over the Valley of the Sun.
Then he executes a 60 degree bank 120 degree turn at the outer marker in Apache Jct., AZ to lineup for approach to Sky Harbor Intl.
He was coming in way too fast.
Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe was a blur out of the window.
When we HIT the runway we bounced as we hit it so hard that the luggage came flying out of the overhead bins.
When the plane touched down again the vibration was intense.
A lady behind me yelled, "What in the hell is that?" I yelled back,"Flat tire."
Then suddenly the plane smoothed out as the tire had left the rim. I yelled back at her again, "The tire has left the rim." I got a bunch of nervous laghter at that statement.
"Please leave your seatbelts on until we arrive at the gate". I ignored that and unbucked immediately.
When that plane had stopped I was out of my seat and down the aisle. I glared angrily at the stewardess and said, "Get me the fuck off of this plane, NOW!!!"
I'd have never been as scared...which had turned into rage...in my life.
I was much younger and afraid of death. Today I look back at it and laugh. I am still here.
Too bad for these passengers. I hope they did not know it was happening and it was quick.
lol sounds to me like the Devil was at the controls of that plane.
He makes the commercials with the motorcycle that rides anywhere. Creative mind, practical, not so much.
As I make no time for TeeVee I damned well make no time for watching TeeVee Commercials.
There is just too much to do, too much life to be lived.
It is impractical to do otherwise, wouldn't you agree?
+1000 Tall Tom. Had many a trip to AZ and would fly into PHX but would take damn Greyhound bus to go to Flagstaff to avoid flying over the mountains as it was known to be a rough ride especially in the summer months. I decided to take my chances with the nuts on the bus instead.
Are you a Lumberjack?
I took that same Greyhound to get to NAU and back to the Valley.
What years?
Been in a plane myself that the pilot lost control of. From 4000ft, the Cessna 206 was put into a full stall which turned into a spiral dive. OK, we were all waering parachutes but interestingly enough it didn't make any difference because the g forces were so strong it was impossible to move. A student was hanging from the strut and a jump master sitting in the V with his back to the direction of flight.
At the moment of stall both were pinned to the under side of the wing. The student let go and slid out along the length of the wing kicking the wing tip faring off. The jump master was wriggling around desperately trying to get the plane off his back. When he reached the trailing edge of the flap he was slammed onto the top surface of the wing breaking his arm.He watched the plane spiral away from him and said to himself "They are dead".
I knew I was going to die. We were way to low and although I was kneeling at the open door I could not lift a finger. I could sense the incredible speed and was waiting for that instant in time when the horizon became visible. This was the moment of no return and death. Luckily the pilot recovered at 1500ft. One more spin and we were finished. The jumper behind me had his reserve handlt dislodged and laying on the floor. If the reserve had popped we were all dead anyway.
The plane was badly damaged and the wing spars removed and found to contain stress ripples.
The good news is, in this case, and probably many like it there was zero fear. Time slowed down to an excruciating crawl, there was only one primordial concern - fight, survive. I would have gone into the deck simp,y trying to survive. It would have been a good death. Quick, painless and zero suffering.
'The good news is, in this case, and probably many like it there was zero fear. Time slowed down to an excruciating crawl, there was only one primordial concern - fight, survive. I would have gone into the deck simp,y trying to survive. It would have been a good death. Quick, painless and zero suffering.'
Thank you for your sharing. Perhaps your experience may make it slightly easier should family and friends of the deceased read this.
Now that reminds me of when I was tubing down the Salt River and got caught by a boulder that had an undertow beneath.
I clawed my way out of that one. It took about Twenty Minutes. Seemed like Two Hours...
If you are in control then there is no fear. You just fight. I end up getting pissed off at the situation... Adrenaline is a strange hormone.
When I was child, I've experienced and air pocket it was scary shit, we where in a plain storm and the plane was falling like a rock it happened really fast (no more than a second).
Got nightmare after that.
VSI shows -14144, Altimeter unchanged ..... so yes - massive pressure change detected by VSI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variometer
Most likely a bit dropped from the transponder transmission.
I doubt it. Seems a little too convenient that, less than 20 seconds after the 14k delta was indicated, the aircraft entered a sustained 3K fpm descent to its fiery demise in the mountains. My suspicion is that they got into a nasty downdraft, which damaged the aircraft's control surfaces - probably the elevators.
Be very interested to see the mishap report on this one.
Are you implying that the debris from the Russian missle caused the false transponder reading?
Didn't the rear stabilizer of a 320 come off due to wake turbulance back in 2001 in NY?
That chart doesn't add up if the "vertrate" is using feet per minute. The "altitude" column shows a normal climb to FL380 (38,000 feet) and there it stays plus or minus 25 feet. It shows no lower altitude so this chart shows only a portion of the flight at cruise BEFORE any problems. A sudden change of plus or minus 14,000 feet per minute in any airplane would break the wings off besides being physically impossible.
VSI senses static air pressure changes in the atmosphere OUTSIDE the aircraft. So, no, exlposions or decompression inside the cabin would not affect the indicated rate of descent.
Wonder what the weather was like.
Modern aircraft use IRS (Inertial Reference System) vertical speed information as primary to the IVSI. Air Data info is secondary or back-up. Verticle Speed has nothing to do with cabin pressure....... unless there is cabin pressure leak in the static system. The 14K drop with no altitude change would "seem" like a glitch, but we're way to early in this one to be stating definatives.
http://www.rotate.aero/basics/test-equipment/pitot-static-test1
"What immediately stands out is the sudden -14144 feet per minute descent rate."
That appears to be a computer generated number after the plane already crashed.
The decent was very controlled in both airspeed and altitude.
Flight 4U9525 disappeared off the radar at around 11.20am, Le Figaro reported. The plane dropped from 11,500 metres to 2,100 metres (38,000ft to 7,000ft) in nine minutes between 10.31am and 10.40am, air radar services said.
That has to be a glitch. Notice the altitude stays the same.
But perhaps there was an incident that caused that glitch? Looks like they levelled off, something happened, soon after the plane started descending again.
hey, merkel, still wanna join the AIIB? How about you, Hollande?
2015, the year of the airplane crashes and shootings
2015, the year of FF airplane crashes and FF shootings.
Could we have just one topic on ZH that DOESN'T bring out the ridiculous false flag conspiracy theories?
The last 12 months have been very unfortunate for this in general.
Rest in Peace. My prayers go out to all victims and families. I hope they find survivors.
RIP. Although unlikely, let's hope there are survivors.
My prayers are offered for the families of the dead.
Very sad event. Sad day.
Wow that plane never slowed down.
Now, sadly, I'm off to the airport.
"Now, sadly, I'm off to the airport."
Tomorrow I get on a plane which I'm enjoying less and less. the good news is that both flights are operated by Malaysia Airlines. Sweet.
I am also on my way to the airport. I travel via airplane almost weekly and would not have it any other way. It is a good life....
America meant business when it said stop asking about repatriation of gold and cancel your membership to the new Chinese bank!
Wouldn't be surprised the least MansaMusa.
Very sad, blessings for those injured or dead and their families. Hope there is nothing nefarious involved, but it's 2015.
Loftyness never altered an airplanes movements.
Flase Flag! The answer from USIsrael to Germany of the relationship between Germany, Russia and China!
For fuck's sake, this "false flag" shit is reflexive for you people.
maybe you missed this one ?
False flag terror is supremely effective in manufacturing consent for political objectives. Just take the New Pearl Harbor as an example.
Intelligence Officer: Every Single Terrorist Attack In U.S Was a False Flag Attack … Or Egged On By the Government
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/03/steele-every-single-terrorist-att...
There's a sale at Penney's!
~Johnny [Ackerman]
Passenger manifest, please.
They were coming from partying hard in Mallorca & Ibizia. Maybe a Kardashian is on the list.
We can only hope.
Amen brother. When are those fame whores' 15 eons going to be up? I thought that Paris Hilton was bad, but this seems to never end.
Study some geographics you dumbfuck.
I studied 'National Geographics' when I was a kid...
Nude pygmies!
Jesus, master controller of all, clipped a wing from 'Germanwings'.
Breaking news,, Marie le pen was on the flight
Holland says tragic tragic tragic
Give a link dude, otherwise just a useless rumor, and you are just a ahole.
Newsflash, damicol was on that flight. Oh wait...too bad.
a*shole
Jews & Zionists would be happy, if, but bad luck this time, like in Ukraine in the last year.
Plane are becoming more and more dangerous in those times...
Guess I will stick more with trains...
RIP.
Or just drive haha.
Very sad indeed. Wonder why all this data is immediately available for this crash, before any black boxes were recoverd but nothing like this seemed available for the 'crash' of the passenger plane over Ukraine
Um, probably because the Ukraine airforce shot it down. Magic isn't it how that story vanished from the headlines when the HD photo of 30mm bullet holes all through the cockpit surfaced.
Live camera shot from crash area:
http://www.ubaye.com/webcams-barcelonnette-praloup-sauze-enchastrayes-uv...
#Germanwings Crash
Latest News-Ticker HERE:
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Looking at vertirate...it appears they started to get the plane back under control a few times not long after some sort of failure....when vertirate halved.
Rate of decent I take those negative figures as...
-3328
-1856
-4627
-2880
then the rest....
Unless it was jusst the plane spinning around at different angles......
Heading stayed fixed at about 26 degrees though, so it wasn't spinning. looks like the autopilot for heading was left on, suprised it wasn't disengaged altogether, unless that was part of the problem...
A couple years ago I said very soon planes were going to start falling from the sky like crazy and running off runways.
It is a combination of aging fleets, less aged and skilled ground crews, and a massive reduction in the skill and quality of factory workers. Over the past ten years I've not liked what I have seen looking out airport windows. What you have now is people that say, hey the computer diagnostic says it is fine so it is fine.
You are better off buying a new car than having major repairs done at a dealership.
Ask yourself a question. Do you really trust anyone from GenY or a millennial with anything mechanical?
This crash does seem to be more weather related considering the position. Flying over mountains is always sketchy.
It is the price we will pay for the "as cheap as possible" mentality. We've had some experts stating similar things here in Norway also but I guess people dont want to listen to it. Just a matter of time (and likely not far off) to have this happen in Norway also.
I would prefer a strict service and control regime even if it costs more to fly for the passengers.
2nd intelligent comment re this post.
OT:
http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/small-911-truth-victory-unknow...
Wasn't the last plane crash the Algerian twin prop carrying central banker?
Hope EADS/BAE do the right thing ............RIP
When the DAX won't crash Zerohedge is here with a plane that apparently has
Look at all the data they have compared to the Malaysian crashes.
I bet they have just as much data on the Malaysian crashes - only the public will never see it.
Other than that, how was your flight?
Gotta love those automated emails that come two days after you we're supposed to land.
Things happens when you join the AIIB.