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The Best Place To Live In The United States? Here Are 9 Maps To Consider
Submitted by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream blog,
If you could live anywhere in America during the tumultuous years ahead, where would it be? This is a topic that is hotly debated, and the truth is that there is not a single right answer. If you have a very strong family support system where you are, it might not be right to try to move 2000 miles away and start a new life from scratch. And for many Americans, moving is out of the question in the short-term because they are completely and totally dependent on employment in their local areas. But in recent years we have seen an increasing number of Americans strategically relocate to another region of the country. They can see our society breaking down and they can see the storm clouds on the horizon and they want to do what they can to prepare themselves and their families for what is ahead. So is there a “best place to live” in the United States? Are there some areas that are preferable to others? The following are 9 maps to consider…
#1 Population Density
When the U.S. economy crashes and civil unrest starts erupting in our cities, ideally you will want to be living in an area with low population density. In other words, the fewer people around the better. The map below represents population density with a series of yellow dots. As you can see, the west coast and the eastern half of the nation are generally very crowded. So if you are looking for an area with lots of “breathing room”, the area between the Mississippi River and the west coast is a good place to look.
#2 Average Precipitation
Unfortunately, the western half of the nation is also generally very dry. So if you are planning to grow your own food during a time of economic and social turmoil, that is something to keep in mind. There are a few areas between the Mississippi River and the west coast that do get plenty of rainfall (northern Idaho for example), but those areas are few and far between.
#3 Drought
The latest national map from the U.S. Drought Monitor is the next map that I have shared. The multi-year drought in the state of California is already the worst drought in the recorded history of the state, and many scientists believe that it could stretch on for many more years. But it isn’t just California that has been suffering. There are other areas in the Southwest that are starting to resemble the Dust Bowl days as well. So obviously these areas are not ideal if you plan to be self-sufficient and grow much of your own food during a time of great crisis.
#4 Average Snowfall
If you don’t like cold and snow, you will want to avoid the colored areas on this next map. And if you do plan to live in an area that gets plenty of cold and snow, you will want to have a solid plan for heating your home if the electrical grid goes down and is not available for an extended period of time.
#5 Average Homicides
In the years ahead, crime in the United States is likely to rise dramatically. If you are looking for somewhere safe, the areas that have relatively low crime rates right now will probably be better than areas that have relatively high crime rates right now. In general, rates of violent crime are higher in our major cities and in the Southeast.
#6 Taxes
For a lot of people, tax rates are extremely important when choosing a place to live. This next map shows the states where the state income tax rate is zero. But please keep in mind that there are other reasons why some of these states may be undesirable during an emergency situation.
#7 Nuclear Power Plants
We have all seen what a single nuclear power plant disaster can do in Japan. Well, in a future disaster scenario, we could potentially be facing multiple “Fukushimas” all at once here in the United States. The map below shows where nuclear reactors are located throughout America. You might want to think twice before moving in right next door to one.
#8 Tornadoes
A single giant tornado can absolutely shred the best laid plans of any family. There are some that feel completely and totally comfortable living right in the heart of “Tornado Alley”, and there are others that very much would like to avoid any area that is at high risk for tornadoes. As you can see from the map below, the highest risk areas are generally in the Southeast part of the nation.
Of course tornadoes are far from the only natural disaster to consider when choosing a place to live. For much more on all of this, check out these articles…
-“The New Madrid Earthquake That Will Divide The United States In Half”
-“East Coast Tsunami: If It Happens, MILLIONS Of Americans Could Die”
-“Why The Earthquake Near San Francisco Is Just The Start Of The Shaking In California”
-“Yellowstone Supervolcano Alert: The Most Dangerous Volcano In America Is Roaring To Life”
#9 Politics
For many Americans, moving to a politically-compatible area of the country is extremely important. The map below uses red and blue to represent the average margin of victory in recent presidential elections. The states that are very red voted very heavily for Republican candidates. The states that are very blue voted very heavily for Democratic candidates. The states that are purple were in the middle. But it is important to remember that there are areas within each state that tend to be more conservative or liberal than the state overall.
I noted more thoughts for each individual state in my previous article entitled “What Is The Best Place To Live In America? Pros And Cons For All 50 States“. But wherever you go, the truth is that no place is going to be perfect. The following is how Joel Skousen, the author of “Strategic Relocation: North American Guide to Safe Places“, put it in one of his recent articles…
The more rural you are, the higher the cost of building, maintaining equipment and commuting to civilization—and, the higher your expenses for services including utilities, alternate energy and internet connectivity. The more your priorities emphasize closeness to a community, the higher your risks will be during a social meltdown, and the more precise must be your preparations to bug out to a separate retreat. So, as you see, there are always compromises in life, no matter if you spend $50,000 on your property or millions, there is no perfect property that will meet all your criteria. Focus on what’s most important for you, your family and/or group.
That was very well said.
No matter what other people are doing, you have to make the choices that are right for you and your family.
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Spokane is Near Perfect.
Too late, we're on our way!
We've screwed up CA, but we'll do it right in WA!
I knew some people from your clan. Ironworkers and damn good ones. If your kin to them,your ahead of the whole thing already. Either way good luck and all the best to ya.
"...treat Oregon like a DMZ no-man's land buffer to the desperate hordes in California."
You must not live in Washington. The Invasive Species from Mexifornia diluted the gene pool up here starting in the mid-80's. Why do you think western wash reeks of collectivism?
TN also has no state income tax.
Unless you consider interest and dividends "income".
If you could live anywhere in America during the tumultuous years ahead, where would it be?
Places least susceptible to the coming Zombie Apocalypse: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-24/zombie-apocalypse-heres-where-n...
utah along the wasatch front.. plenty of water....also from salt lake to provo inroads by major tech companies plenty of employment.... all freewqys finished ... very safe neighborhood living .. homes are still affordable....do not let the mormon influence your decision plenty of other folk coming from all over still lots of room in 5 year many opportunitis will be lost
just saying moved from seattle 5 months ago and the difference is very good... cost of living lower.. more flexibility, less government control very honest and in control government ... will not find many paper bags being passed around
rent in seattle 2800 for 3 bedroom townhome now paying 1500 for very nice home 3 bed room in nice secton in the foothills of Lindon just next to orem which is next to provo 35 miles north to salt lake city
Living seconds to ocean or coastal water exit with boat provisions at hand. I have two options, depending when there. Gulf of Mexico or Atlantic Ocean. Food for thought.
Saw your movie Kevin no thanks. Gotta make landfall sometime
Some problems have no solutions. I'll take my chances where I am. I know the land, and have old friends I trust.
Timmy time!
If it gets that bad, it's over. Be better off just stand your ground, kill hostile intruders such as those trying to harm you, bill collectors, home foreclosure agents, etc. A bullet for each and every one of them.
Invest in a good backhoe to get rid of the evidence.
Anyone know if the Deadwood deal on the hog pen is true? Just asking - no reason.
That's what we use. Works great!
Excellent - recycling at its best
Greedy_as_a_pig?
The three S's. SSS Shoot, Shovel and Shutup!
I can vouch for NW Montana being pretty good in all those categories. Why do you think I live here?
And I'm as ready as I can be for the coming "crackup-boom" :)
hairball
Still stackin'
I was thinking of taking the family to Whitefish so they can see the big city - what do you think?
hehe :) The "big city" huh? Whitefish is a very nice little community.
And I would add that imho, Flathead County would be the wrong place for the roving bands of zombies to come after the crash. If the "invading zombies" looked carefully beneath the surface, they would find, on a per capita basis, a large number real hard-ass types who will vigorously defend the county.
:)
hairball
Ha - your man Meagher is from home. Micks will fall for the free land scam every time. Served with a guy from there.
Beautiful little town. I stay there a couple of times a year. Skiing sucked this year but the Bulldog was a great place to watch the superbowl. I agree that this area would be as safe as anywhere should the system collapse. There is a reason it's call "White"fish.
Shhhhhh Hush, LOL!! Don't tell everyone!
We had great snow until mid January. Then it was someone turned a switch . The snow nearly stopped completely. Fuckin Mass. and Boston got our snow. :(
The Bulldog has great burgers. I like the garlic burger with cheddar myself, and unlike the places back east, they'll cook my burger medium rare. Good Holdem table there, but I prefer the poker at the new Casey's.... maybe 'cause a friend runs the game:)
Same where I am in the SE corner of BC. No winter after mid January.
I sure like your area but the deals aren't what they were now that our buck is only 80 cents. Mind you a case of beer is still less than half and drinks in the pubs are a lot less. Plus there is no ten pin bowling in my area so that's always a good reason to go on a road trip to the fish
If I told you where the best places are in the US, all the Riff Raff, Parasites and Undesirables would go there.
This is a Need To Know situation, not a Want To Know freebie.
Beyond those few pockets left, the best places are outside the US. And any place that has too many expats goes to hell. E.g. Costa Rica. Crawling with 'Mericans, mostly ex-mil/gov. No thanks.
I live a few miles from the 10,000 islands and can assure you'll never find me...between the mosquitos and noseeums even the zombies wouldn't make it...lol
So ... look at the history of Russia - when things went to hell, where were the best places to be? Moscow (seat of federal govt), St. Petersburg (big city also, connected to Moscow), and Vladivostok (city of very strategic military importance). Everywhere else sucked worse. Just something to think about.
You must be kidding. Things go to shit - so I should go to the most populated area? WTF. And you give Russia as the example? You might want to look a Argentina, Czech Republic .... Shit I can't do the list. Good luck - just go to the FEMA camp
New Zealand is nice this time of year. In fact it's nice all year round
Love NZ...lived in Dunedin for half a year once during a recession. It was bleak there and fairly cold but the people were fabulous and the clear air, ocean, etc were spectacular. I don't know if it's changed now. The gf I had there moved to Thailand so I don't have an update on that area of NZ. I know the house prices all over NZ skyrocketed like every where else most likely due to massive numbers of Chinese buyers from what I 've heard.
I too love NZ. Just visited again 6 months ago. I've had a bank account there for 25 years. The meek shall inherit the earth. The 17 hour flight about kills me now. I used to fly back and forth twice a month in my 20's. I would hands down vote NZ as the best of the best in the world.
Just overlay all the maps already and tells us where the sweet spot is.
Snyder forgot to call out the high-risk areas for volcanos
What none of these maps take into consideration, and it will be a biggie: intense, extended cold...little ice age cold. And what it does to accessibility, human relations, and agriculture.
and/or naturally occurring EMP
Thorium! You government controlled idiots.
Geez, use some common sense.
You can survive anywhere- ideally not in a urban area- if you do it right.
read Ferfal's book.
Thats right, at the moment I am liking any Southern AZ WalFart parking lot that is not too crowded...
I'll keep it simple for you. Look at where there is a high percentage of mormons, and you have your bug out zones.
Bingo! Idaho has the Mormons and we are surrouded by them and several former career Marine E-8`s.We are all armed and skilled hunters.Cattle herd is 100 yards away.It`s a red state and we all hate DC.Beats the south side of Chicago where i grew up.
You forgot to mention that the state tree is a telephone pole...
But you're going to freeze...seriously, Idaho has 3 seasons: Winter--Winter's Over--Winter's Coming. Best place overall: near South Padre Island TX. Remote, but with >1million people nearby. On ocean for trade, excellent weather in the cold age to come, amazing amount of excellent farmland nearby that'll still grow food, no particular big military targets, lots of cheap labor.
Did you say Mormons or Morons?
Mormons have it figured out. They are totally prepper stackers. I wanted to become a Mormon but my wife didn't want any competition.
You don't need to join them to adopt their wise behaviors, or to live in Utah for that matter.
right... mlm...
multi level marketing as a lifestyle and religious tenet...
plus 19th century prepper tech in a 21st century world... an anachronisim... pass...
Downtown Chicago ....Come on pussies! grab a fucking pitchfork and go to town...
How about Puerto Rico. Nice temperatures, green, and there can't be very many people still living there.
Puerto Rico, the United States Virgin Islands, British Virgin Islands, and the Dominican Republic do not have active volcanoes; however, they are at risk from earthquakes and tsunamis. The Puerto Rico Trench is capable of producing earthquakes greater than magnitude 8.0.
Scientific studies have concluded that an earthquake occurring along this fault zone could generate a significant tsunami. The island of Puerto Rico lies immediately to the south of the fault zone and the trench. The trench is 800 kilometres (497 mi) long and has a maximum depth of 8,648 metres (28,373 ft) at Milwaukee Deep, which is the deepest point in the Atlantic Ocean
http://agatelady.blogspot.com/2013/08/deepest-spots-on-earth.html
not to mention hurricanes
Nomadic cannibals.
I'm sharing this with you to help you avoid making the biggest mistake of your life. Do Not Come To Idaho!! It's hot, hot, hot in the summer and colder than Alaska in the winter. There are wolves running around everywhere and people here have to hire armed protection just to make sure their kids get to school and back everyday. Speaking of schools, the education system is the worst in the country just behind Haiti. The state tax is one of the highest in the nation. For every dollar earned over $1.37 is owed in tax. Food is the most expensive of all the lower 48. Milk is $17.89 a gallon and that is when it is 5 days past expiration. Hamburger is $27 a pound. There is no place to live. Some landlords offer 4 man tents @ $2500 per month with no running water or heat. Medicine is all but nonexistant. If you need a surgery such as a bypass or colon cancer it is best to bid it on eBay. Gangs are rampant and many gangs actually have agreements with local law enforcement to share the loot from their crimes. Most employers demand kickbacks from a persons salary just for having employment. It's very bad here, none of the things that people are used to in the rest of the nation are even available, like television, internet or ice cream. There are earthquakes and plagues and the Yellowstone caldera is in part of the state and is going to blow at any time. Seriously, if you can get to Detroit you will be much better off. Hoping this helps!!
Yeah sandpoint sucks. I never go there just because of the gangs and the shitty music at the festivals. Plus the lake is small and has all small fish.
LOL!!! Now they'll come over to Lake Koocanusa
Just love this! Will send this to all 2 of my Boise neighbors.all the rest went to New Jersey for bluer skies.
LOL - nice try.......
@RevIdahoSpud ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!! from ur next door neighbor to the East :)
Idaho it is then!
sure Rev...
nice try... but the mooks that think you're being sarcastic and actually move there...
will sure be surprised when the landed gentry bones 'em with ever inceasing taxes and fees, and they suffer the rainbow of dumbest mofo's on the planet as their new neighbors...
plus let's not forget the rinos on parade holding all the politico offices and running the table on their loyal red-state voting lemmings... just insidious...
it's called the alabama of the pac-nw for a reason... I'm outta' here as soon as possible... for cause...
The line forms to the left
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events
... but then again I'm just a clown
Southern Utah Bitchez!!!!!!!!
My family settled many of the communities there. There are even several highways named after great-granddad. (not because he donated money...but because he cut the road himself with team-pulled grater and used it as a stock road down over escalant to the market in N Arizona)... In fact, he's still there.
The problem with the area is water.
Southern Utah is a fucking desert.
What up my crackers, motown be the safest place because ain't nobody else goin there.
I live out in the middle of nowhere, about 64 miles from the outskirts of a large metropolitan area. Every morning, I feed deer out of my hand off my back porch. There are no streetlights here and I can see millions of stars in the sky at night because its completely dark. It is also quiet. Dead quiet. No highways, no nothing out here. I generate my own electricity with solar power because there are no power lines out here. I get water from my own waterwell. I grow my own food in a garden. I'm transmitting this message via a satellite transmitter/receiver because there are no cell phone towers out here, nor are there any telephone lines either. I 'go to town' once a month to buy supplies and watch the monkeys for a few hours and then go back home.
And I like living this way, thank you very much.
This is rather racist, but I have to admit it really made me laugh when I heard it back in the 1990s. I asked someone where they planned to retire. Their answer was as follows:
"I'm going to get in my truck and start driving. Every town I stop I'm going to say the words "Jew" and "African American".
I'm going to retire in the first town where the answer is, "What the fuck are you talking about? What do you mean? I don't understand those words."
It's really racist, and I apologize for that. But, it is a direct quote - and I'm pretty sure the person was serious.
I think I've about said enough. And, as opposed to my typical post, where I don't care if I've offended anyone, I apologize to anyone I've offended in this one.
Looks like all the best places are designated wilderness areas.
This thing reads like something written by some high school sci fi nerd while playing vid games in their parents basement.
what a waste of time reading this.
Currently in NH and I'm done with 1) cold and snow, 2) liberals/commies taing over the state, 3) sky high prop taxes.
Got my eye on Nashville. Can't do TX or FL... too hot for too long.
Good luck
Smoky mountains in NC/Tenn are beautiful country. Some of the best roads for riding motorcycles in the country...Tail Of The Dragon!!
so Mexico then!
I did my own analysis about a decade ago and picked the absolute best place: a perfect hedge for every possible outcome. I'd tell you where it is, but that would defeat the purpose.
PRECISELY.
I'm making over $7k a month working part time. I kept hearing other people tell me how much money they can make online so I decided to look into it. Well, it was all true and has totally changed my life. This is what I do... www.globe-report.com
Dude, I was tricking out my ass too but ended up with a prolapsed anus. It also toally changed my life but my asshole also is prolapsed.
The best place to be is NOT in the US. I figured that out a few years ago, packed up, and left.
Vegan,
Where did you go, if it's not a secret?
Some really nice microclimates around Los Angeles, might even be OK through the drought if the other 20,000,000 or so people in the area would just go away.
750 cases of C-Rats, natural spring and wildlife everywhere. Tools, Weapons and ammo. Spare parts and stocks of everything else. I'm never leaving. A dozen miles to the Canada border if I need to go further north to the fall back position. Zombies and the FSA will freeze and starve. The clan at the bottom of the mountain will take care of the riff-raff. SW radio if anyone else survives and wants to talk. This world is infected with a virulent disease called humans.
Get the hell outta dodge. I did, and I'm totally happy I did, essentially 100% happy in every way (can't think of any way I'm unhappy about the move). Staying in the USSA is like staying in Nazi Germany in the late 1930s and early 1940s. NOT smart.
what country, if you dont mind saying?
Not saying lets me say what I mean without much worry the predators-that-be will come looking for me. However, I will make a few comments and give a few ideas.
#1: I'm in the southern hemisphere, and most of the best places are.
#2: Where is best for any given individual is personal. For example, if you want more liberty, the next questions will send you to many diverse locations. For example, does humidity bother you? Does cold weather bother you? Do insects and nasty critters bother you? Does living far from the nearest large city bother you? Do you have significant savings? If you need income, do your skills let you work away from population centers? And so forth.
#3: Are you able to "make things happen"? For example, I moved to what most folks would call the extreme boonies, 125km from the nearest human being, and about 250km from the nearest city. I designed, purchased and had constructed and transported to my site: my dwelling, my self-sufficient infrastructure and everything I need to live without any external supplies. I do buy a tiny amount of stuff on a continuing basis to increase the variety of food I consume, but I don't have to. I could live the rest of my life if every human being on the planet fell over dead (no further supplies). Not everyone has the skills, knowledge or inclination to set themselves up this way. As part of setting myself up, I bought a 2-seat airplane (that gets 70mpg, 4000km+ range) which is now my only transportation (my place cannot be reached by land vehicle).
#4: The following are good choices depending on your personal likes, dislikes, needs and inclinations:
A: Small islands in the south-pacific, which may include the smaller islands in the Fiji, Vanuatu, CookIsland or other island groups, plus small isolated islands, many of which are unoccupied by human beings.
B: Peru, Chile, Bolivia, Ecuador, Argentina.
C: A large vessel in the south pacific. I almost purchased a 50 meter long, 3-level luxury yacht, but made my offer one day too late. The viability of this option very much depends on your personal abilities, your sense of independence, who might live with you (their skills and personality), and whether you generate income from the vessel somehow (many opportunities for that).
D: In the northern hemisphere, Nepal, Mongolia, Myramar, Thailand, various "special situations" (like tiny islands in the Mediterranian). I'd be half tempted to add certain locations in Mexico and thereabouts, but I would only consider them if you plan to remain footloose and ready to move at any moment (cuz you're too close to USSA).
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For someone who wants to move somewhere that feels close to "a normal life", probably a small town in one of those islands or countries in south america. A fairly conventional and cost effective example might be Iquique, Chile or some small town in northern Chile or southern Peru. If you like to live at high altitude, consider locations in Ecuador or perhaps even along the shores of Lake Titicaca in southern Peru.
To a large extent, ignore fictional borders between nations. Focus on general areas. Probably every fictitious "nation" in the world has a great many places you'd never want to live near, even while a few areas are fabulous.
If you can tolerate solitude, move to the boonies, or to a small town that is far, far away from the nearest city.
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Hope that helps. If anyone wants to list characteristics they love and hate, plus their skills and general plans, plus what range between city and boonies they can tolerate, I might be able to suggest a couple ideas.
Don't worry, be happy...we'll make up the rest. - Janet Yellen
i dont need a map to know that my state of FL is the best state and stay the hell out. we dont need you coming in and spoiling it.
Need to chart churches per capita, then overlay it on a few of the above.
Try SEA - checked-out a while ago, great people - fuck IRS
how pitiful
If the USA and Russia start lobbing nukes at each other it won't matter what state in the USA you live in. We'll all be glowing in the dark walking around in a nuclear Winter. All soil, water and food completely contaminated.
Rather than trying to figure out where to hide we should be figuring out how to exterminate Congress, WH, SCOTUS, The Fed, MSM and the evil bankers and corporations who are manipulating them. They are the ones who should be hiding (from us). "We the people" shouldn't be hiding.
I would agree, except vastly, vastly, vastly too few people are willing to take the kind of actions that must be taken to do what you say. Yes, what you suggest is what humans SHOULD do, but you need more than a few people to pull that off. Humans are a failed species, precisely because they won't defend themselves, and exterminate the human predators who enslave, harm and kill them.
If the nukes fall, we'll be hunting politicians, law enforcement and the 1% with hounds. It'll probably take 20 years to get them all, but memories will be long enough.
Hands down Vermont. Loads of water and wood. loads of land. cheap. liberal and independantly minded (over 55% of the sate would succed from the Union), loads of free energy from Hydro and wind. send recon drones out for security.
back up 30 mm in the cupola. They dont stand a chance.
But... but... the Zombie Apocalypse map said it would get hit hard.
ill bet you cant find my spread even if i give you address. Zombies dont climb much either.
Looks like wyoming with beef and dairy cattle would be one of the best options. IMHO.
Have you ever been to Wyoming??? WTF! It's a fucking windy ass wasteland and cold as fuck. I saw snow in JULY! Absolutely no fucking way Wyoming is anywhere on the list.
The problem with all of these 'single best places' is that there are dozens of scenarios that might happen - and the 'best place' for Scenario A is not the best for Scenario B, etc, etc. The single most important thing to factor in is electricity. If you have it, then the modern infrastructure stays intact and you have heat and light and you can even grow food indoors. Take electricity away and society collapses - plus you need to really think out your survival plans for living in cold states.
+1
It also makes sense to look historical population density maps: pre-grid, pre-interstate highways.
I notice quite a few of these type stories also ignore waterways as traditional means of transportation.
I call total bullshit with a big red flag waving. I'm extremely well versed on geography. The authors blog rated best location by state....I just KNEW he would rate Idaho the best. He did and THAT'S total bullshit. Idaho is 60-70% fucking desert and very fucking freezing cold with 44 inches of snow. The big worry is only 17 inches of rain. You can't survive shit when it's that cold and dry. People migrate to the water, no water no life. The second best area was Montana. Really? Fucking Montana! You've got to be kidding. You'd have better luck in the Arctic. Fuck the cold and fuck this author. It takes far too many acres/man to survive in these areas. You would spend most of the year hunting to survive the winter. No fucking way I'm going to Idaho.
My current location is a mini-farm in the woods surrounded by wildlife. Plenty of meat on the hoof (deer). No state income taxes, 50 inches of rain, 6 inches of snow, all 4 seasons of equal length. Everything grows here, stick it in the ground and it grows.
sheikurbootie,
What state do you live in (if it's not a secret).
Population density pic is deceiving. The east may have more density overall in the cities but when you get out of the populated areas you can be quite remote. I'm an eastern fella. Better climate, better soil, more rainfall. I lived out west for a few years and it would be tough to scratch out a living in some of those arid climates. The pacific northwest is also pretty good.
A word to the wise:
Palouse.
Pacific NW is out. The population centers are on the coast. Over the Cascade mountains is desert in Washington and just over the row of volcanoes in Oregon is 60-70% desert. No fucking way. I lived in both those shit holes. No fucking way.
I've lived in the places the author recommends...and in those he doesn't.
The fact is that he has failed to include some very important factors that impact his recommendations.
Like mineral rights.
Did you know that West of the Mississippi it is uncommon for water rights to go with the property?
Did you know that in many of those places you can be fined FOR COLLECTING RAINWATER????
I grew up in the mountain west.
Used to be good hunting out there until they started selling hunting licenses to people from California.
No more.
Used to be good grazing for livestock...until they redirected all the water to go to California, and started enforcing BLM restrictions on grazing land that was family grazing land 50 years or more before the place even became a territory. How's that? Feds simply declared everything outside of townships to be theirs. Whole towns that were not in the records sent to DC had to be vacated. Homesteads abandoned.
And it is getting worse.
Rapacious people will come after you whereever you are.
choose your poison
Precisely, there have been tornadoes in Los Angeles within my lifetime. Tornadoes are an atmospheric phenomena that can occur anywhere enough heat exists.
You can build your safe house outside tornado ally and still have it decimated by a tornado. Life is so unfair.
From the map of violence, it seems violence is not a distinct property of the southeast, but a phenomena related to your distance from Louisanna.
Ragin Cajuns at work?
Whatever you do don't come to WNC, it is a hell hole here.
And politically it doesn't make any difference where you live unless you want health care. Red States believe that if you can not afford health care you should just go ahead and die.
Utah, Idaho, Nevada
I'd sure love to save my homeworld of California, but it's a hideous hybrid of Juarez and Arrakis now.
The Northern Hemisphere will eventually blow up.
The best place?
My house. Because I don't give a fuck. Whatever comes, I'll deal with it or die.
Simple as that.
Well, I'll live anywhere except --please don't throw me in the briar patch-- please please----
TN doesnt have state income tax. Other than the nuke power it is fairly sustainable (in context). Homogenous population and rural people. Plenty of water sources. Still seems to have decent morality, even the thugs will hold the door at the gas station for you.
Actually, the state is very high in violent crime, but that's probably mainly due to Memphis and Nashville. Eastern Tennesee up in the hills might be good.
these states may not have an income tax but they have HIGH Property taxes.
I moved to Texas which was a big mistake. The damn state is nothing but an illegal alien sanctuary with illegals flooding in from all over the world. And a whole bunch of bumper-sticker 'patriots' that do nothing to stop it.
All those who have tried to stop the flood of illegal immigrants have been stopped by their protector, the Federal Government, and their organs of oppression in Federal Law Unenforcement and the Department of Injustice.
Surely you know these facts as well as I do. What would you have Texans do today? Right now, March the 25th 2015?
To stop the illegal immigrants today will actually begin a shooting war against the Federal Government. Are you ready to initiate that, Mr. Shankster?
Sadly the Mercatus Center 'Freedom in the Fifty States' 2015 report has been delayed, maybe indefinately. The 200 indicia that Mercatus use in their evaluations results in a pretty well organized rankings of the states, which in 2013 (the last biannual report) showed ND, SD, NH, TN, and OK in the top five. The bottom five were (surprise!!) NY, CA, NJ, HI, and RI. The Mercatus overall freedom ranking is a combination of personal and economic freedoms - both of which are important to all of us now that we all know we live in a police state.
http://freedominthe50states.org/
I bought a nice yacht so I can choose where to live if SHTF. Self contained, no power shortages, easy to defend and if the world keeps turning it's still great for the family.
In a no tax state the lower your income the higher the tax you pay. everything you buy has a tax to make up for it.
So millionaires pay about 2 percent but you pay about 15 percent.
It is a avoid taxes for the wealthy scheme.