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Israel Spies On U.S. Negotiations With Iran, Gives Info to Congressmen Trying to Block a Deal ... The BIGGER Picture
It is – rightfully – front-page news that Israel was caught spying on the closed-door negotiations between the U.S. and Iran.
And the Obama administration is particularly outraged that Israel allegedly shared that information with Republican congressmen who want to stop any peaceful deal with Iran.
This is certainly outrageous … but small, in the grand scheme of things.
Why?
Because Israeli spying on America is so rampant that U.S. officials have labeled it “alarming, even terrifying”.
And because the U.S. has only half-heartedly asked Israel to stop … Israel has told the U.S. to pound sand.
As if that isn’t bad enough, the NSA voluntarily shares the raw data it collects on American citizens with Israel.
This includes raw data on U.S. government officials. This not only raises major privacy concerns for American citizens, but it might mean that Israel is spying on the American Congress and other high-level politicians.
Indeed, leaked NSA documents show that U.S. intelligence officials are concerned that the NSA may be putting Israel’s security needs ahead of America’s.
Moreover, top NSA officials have told Washington’s Blog that mass surveillance by the NSA is really aimed at blackmail. And see this.
Indeed, 5,000 years of history shows that spying on one’s own people is always aimed at crushing dissent. (Incidentally, opposing unnecessary, costly wars - such as war against Iran - is treated as terrorism and unacceptable dissent.)
But it's not just Americans ... America’s spy apparatus also helps foreign governments - like Israel - crush dissent in their countries.
Indeed, spying is really a power grab. As Snowden accurately said:
These programs were never about terrorism: they’re about economic spying, social control, and diplomatic manipulation. They’re about power.
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Proves Jews are smarter than Yanks. Met a jewish bricklayer lately.?
Not necessarily smarter but definitely better organized.
While the Washington press corps obsessed over Hillary Clinton’s e-mails at the State Department, reporters were missing a far more important story about government secrets. After five decades of pretending otherwise, the Pentagon has reluctantly confirmed that Israel does indeed possess nuclear bombs, as well as awesome weapons technology similar to America’s.
Early last month the Department of Defense released a secret report done in 1987 by the Pentagon-funded Institute for Defense Analysis that essentially confirms the existence of Israel’s nukes. DOD was responding to a Freedom of Information lawsuit filed by Grant Smith, an investigative reporter and author who heads the Institute for Research: Middle East Policy. Smith said he thinks this is the first time the US government has ever provided official recognition of the long-standing reality.
Just a sample of how YOU have been ROBBED by the people who not only run Wall Street and Hollyweird but our very government.
http://www.wrmea.org/wrmea-archives/251-washington-report-archives-2000-...
"I've never seen a President — I don't care who he is — stand up to them. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. I got to the point where I wasn't writing anything down. If the American people understood what a grip these people have got on our government, they would RISE UP IN ARMS. Our citizens certainly don't have any idea what goes on."
Thomas H. Moorer (1912 - 2004) Admiral, US Navy & Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff during interview on 24 August 1983
Who has been spying on us, US, and GETTING AWAY WITH IT? What group had the POWER to have the Fox series exposing it REMOVED?
Dec 12, 2001 ... Fox News correspondent Carl Cameron
Video: Israel Is Spying In And On The U.S.? Part 1
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7545.htm
Video: Israel Is Spying In And On The U.S.? Part 2
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7544.htm
Video: Israel Is Spying In And On The U.S.? - Part 3
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6480.htm
Video: Israel Is Spying In And On The U.S.? - Part 4
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5133.htm
Who could attack in NEUTRAL WATERS, a United States Navy ship killing 34 sailors and wounding 134 more, and MACHINE-GUNNING the life rafts and GET AWAY WITH IT?
Yep, our "ally" Israel:
http://www.ussliberty.org/index2.html
Republican Congress Rallies Around Patriot Leader. Too Bad He’s Not American.
US Military Sexually Abused at Least 54 Colombian Children U.S. military staff are accused of filming sexual abuse of Colombian girls and selling the videos as pornography. U.S. military staff are accused of filming sexual abuse of Colombian girls and selling the videos as pornography.
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U.S. soldiers and contractors have not been prosecuted for sexually abusing Colombian girls because of diplomatic immunity. U.S. soldiers and military contractors sexually abused at least 54 children between 2003 and 2007, according to a report commissioned by the Colombian government and the FARC.
?“There is abundant information about the sexual violence, which ocurred under absolute impunity because of the bilateral agreements and the diplomatic immunity of United States officials,” said Renan Vega of the Pedagogic University in Bogota, who helped write the report.
Vega detailed a case in 2004 in which military contractors sexually abused 54 girls and filmed [the abuse] and sold the films as pornographic material. The families of the victims received death threats and the victims fled the central Colombian town of Melgar.
The report also reveals that in 2007 U.S. Arrmy Sergeant Michael J. Coen and defense contractor Cesar Ruiz drugged and raped a 12-year-old girl inside their military base. Prosecution officials were not allowed to arrest the alleged rapists because of the immunity agreements between the U.S. military and Colombia.
Coen and Ruiz were flown out of the country and were never indicted in the U.S. The victim and her family were forced to flee from the region because people linked to the suspects were threatening them.
According to news agency El Turbion, “In 2006 there were 23 reported cases of sexual abuse committed by active American soldiers and another 14 in 2007.”
The 800-page report was commissioned by the government and the FARC rebel group to ascertain the causes and breadth of the 50-year internal conflict as part of the historic peace talks between the two sides.
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/US-Military-Sexually-Abused-at-Lea....
1) Shows Deep US Military Presence with Ally Columbia with Treaty
2) Innocent until guilty is best policy, Lots of Emotions get stirred up in these cases, but could be FARC or other have Political Reasons or other reasons for charges
3) This is a huge Story, but I haven't ever heard of it before
4) USA Risks losing key Ally in Columbia
"Indeed, leaked NSA documents show that U.S. intelligence officials are concerned that the NSA may be putting Israel’s security needs ahead of America’s." - Yeah no Shit Sherlock!
Who is this Shitgum Suicide character, anyway? He seems to be some kind of governmment agent provocateur.
He is NSA.
He serves to dishonor his fellow US Servicemen who died on the USS Liberty.
I think his first name might be 'Bibi'.
More Lost Military Equipment Stories for the Dumb and Dumbers:
http://winteractionables.com/?p=19465
Cunt Obama single-handedly started the global recession in Ukraine
Thanks to the [cough] "passionate" commenters here, I've gathered my WHY-WAR-WITH-IRAN-WOULD-BE-STOOPID thoughts in one place:
How Dangerous Is Iran?
Israel has 300+ nukes....I say Iran deserves to protect itself from Israels agression and invasion plans....the "Chosenites" need to be put in their place (and since Jews are generally not semitic-i am not one of the Anti Semites you guys always piss, whine and moan about)
Hey GW- if Iran only wants peaceful nuclear energy, then why do they reject the international community's offer to build the plant for them?
The Iranians want to enrich their own uranium and the only reason to do that is to make a nuke.
You can be anonymous all you want but to be PURPOSEFULLY deceitful has no merit what so ever. Your encouraging distrust in ways to shape an attitude which leads to violence and not genuine change of course.
You gutless coward you!
Aw, you got the craven fool to post a screen cap of your membership page!
Are you and 'Shitgum' as married in the real world as you are in the virtual one?
Ha ha ha! I like how you post replies at the top of the thread (i.e. as a new comment) in order to hijack the thread, that you've created a hostile atmosphere, and that you're a newbie who uses a government spy agency's logo as your image:
Congrats, soldier(s)! Nicely done! I think they should give you a raise!!
Note to self. Dont mix steroid suplements and kool aid.
Yaah you antisemetic twats. Israel is the only country that spys on it's allies, Obama would never spy on say.............Germany or say..............their leader's cell phone. Democrats would never spy on Republicans private cell phones....... Obama never used the NSA to spy on all his enemenies including reporters, policiticians and the Chief Justice of the US to get him to change his vote on Obamacare.
Obama is pised only because Bibi outplayed him and exposed the rancid secret deal he was trying to make with a terrorist country behind the back of Congress- a deal that was not only unconstitutional, but had no teeth and allowed Iran to have nuclear weapons.
Oh and this
Ayatollah Khamenei: ‘Death to America’ — White House: Netanyahu sure is dangerousObama gets out-played a lot. Even when actually on the golf course.
Each sheeple flock trusts its leaders, but their leaders trust not each other. Power corrupts. Power fears its fools. Spying is power, when believed. Blackmail is fear. Fear inhibits power.
Both the exceptional and the chosen are manipulated. Their leaders trust neither their sheeple, nor their allies. Is there honor among the powerful? Is there honor in spying or its results? Is there intelligence in trusting power? Spying is a tool to create and/or destroy lies.
The truth: "Everything government says is a lie." ~ Nietzsche
Everything the government spies say is a lie. The Liars Paradox is the Government Paradox. http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/liar-paradox/
Just when I decided to spend Lent keeping my opinions of disgust about zionists and that criminal apartheid regime called Israel to myself, the filthy responses from the usual suspects bring me back to this bloody topic.
This is a fairly well known and self-explanatory article from GW. Israel's aggressive spying on the US has been reported for decades. Even that zionist stalwart Fox News picked up on the complaints from the FBI, DEA, ATF and the Secret Service about hundreds of roving "Israeli art students" targeting them and members of congress in the late 1990's. Aggressive espionage later gave way to infiltration of key government posts and wholesale membership of AIPAC.
The story is very similar in England too. I've recently read that ~80% of the ruling Conservative party are members of an organization called, "Friends of Israel". I have nothing against decent jewish people of my country who are as loyal and upstanding as anyone else. But those who hold dual nationality, those who work against the interests of my nation, those who spy and belong to foreign organizations that work to manipulate the policies of the state to benefit Israel, that usurp and pervert institutions in the media, law, and education to incite hatred and division amongst us - those zionists are by far the worst haters of jewish people who won't support Israel, Well, those creatures used to be known by a simple noun: Traitor. If you like Israel so much, get the fuck out of my country. Lying, thieving murdering zionist fucks. Seriously, fuck off and give us all a chance, all of us Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Atheists and whatever to live in peace with each other. I am thoroughly sick of warmongering, delusional, exceptionalist, zionist-Israeli bastards throwing insults and hate at everyone else then cowering behind "anti-semetism" to escape righteous criticism and justice.
I wrote the following email to my children this morning.
I have been watching the situation in Europe for some time and in other 'hot' spots around the globe. US House Votes 348-48 To Arm Ukraine, Russia Warns Lethal Aid Will "Explode The Whole Situation".
It is well known the US and a gal named Nuland with the state department started this fiasco, overturning an elected government to one which was more western 'friendly'.
If push comes to shove and they start throwing around nukes, I would encourage you guys to get the hell out of that country as it is no better than Nazi Germany in the 1930's.
Check out what happened to the USS Donald Cook last year. Its AEGIS systems were rendered out of commission by a Russian fighter. 27 officers aboard that ship applied for reassignment after that experience as they knew they were sitting ducks. I didn't put a link as there are a lot of articles on the internet out there.
There is no excuse for war or promoting it. Self defense is the only excuse for bearing arms.
I would not want to see you guys, your siblings or your mother to have to live there if it goes to shit.
The problem with the USA like Germany is there is powerful propaganda, hiding from the truth and a population that is apathetic, a real bad mix, not the America I used to know with some powerful forces to stabilize thinking like the Martin Luther King jr. and so on.
Give it a thought.
Check out what happened to the USS Donald Cook last year. Its AEGIS systems were rendered out of commission by a Russian fighter. 27 officers aboard that ship applied for reassignment after that experience as they knew they were sitting ducks. I didn't put a link as there are a lot of articles on the internet out there.
I have yet to see any believable source for these claims.
Not that it matters. If the nukes start flying, we're all fucking dead; I can't see a 'limited' nuclear exchange, can you?
Check this out.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html
It appears believable enough and the MSM did report Russian fly overs.
The CIA's propaganda unit hides stuff like this as well as things like what happened in Waco where a bunch of kids were fried due to law enforcement incompetence. They don't like hearing negative stuff about Uncle Sam and the 'Homeland'
Oh, I know the Western MSM will not (always) report negative stuff about Uncle Sam and the homeland... though there's an incentive for them to do so if it means more military spending on research because of some real or perceived 'gap', if the gap is worryingly large they'd be more likely to keep it schtum.
But that doesn't mean there isn't pressure on the opposite side not to big up their own capabilities to keep their own sheep in line. Look at the recent Iranian televised sinking of an 'aircraft carrier' (made largely of cardboard, from what I could see)
The lies fly thick and fast from all quarters, not just 'our' own.
Not that it matters. If the nukes start flying, we're all fucking dead; I can't see a 'limited' nuclear exchange, can you?
YOU MISSED HIS POINT.
IT DOES NOT MATTER.
To Eliminate the Opiate. Good read and very much on topic if you haven't had the pleasure...
http://www.amazon.com/eliminate-opiate-Marvin-S-Antelman/dp/B0006CGV32/r...
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/03/24/caught/
60% or 40%?
I believe I understand the difference between truth and perceptions George. As such I'm making do with my perceptions. It seems to be all I have.
Anyone who tells me they know the "truth" I instantly file in bullshit.
How about you? Was there 40% or 60% "truth" in your article or was it all YOUR perceptions?
Angelina Jolie rotten cunt makes The Washington Post!
Dueling studies: The ‘Angelina Jolie effect’ is influencing women fighting cancer — but the influence may not do much good
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/09/03/study-the-a...
#1 ...
"The BIGGER Picture"
"They’re about power."
so, "empower yourself"
... and remove your ovaries.
Hmmmmm ....
As per the "sock puppets" "Angelina Jolie effect" i had that "disinformation" removed.
You never can be too careful. (i)'m just sayin'
At the rate she's getting bits removed, there won't be much left of Angelina Jolie soon.
Joking aside, awful predicament to be in. Surgery is horrible and can really fuck up your energy...
Though not necessarily as badly as cancer can, obviously.
Everybody spies on everybody else. Nothing new or different except we now have a traitor in the White House who hates Bibi and Israel. Why? You know.
moonbeam
hey shitgum whats a good source these days?
GW mostly uses his blog with out of context articles that forget facts to back up his argument. Plus are you going to tell me you believe a Wall Street journal article that asks Susan Rice of Benghazi about facts when the woman is a proven liar. If you don't believe that I'll bet you any day, anywhere, anytime.
When he starts to post links to actual proof rather than bs I'll listen. Until then, and The fact that he can't even answer if he is a jew or not, reeks of fraud.
The Founding Fathers – and later the Supreme Court – also said that Americans have the right to anonymous political speech
That response right there should disqualify you from ever posting one letter of one word on ZH again.
But then again you could be one of the Tyler's who are also software bots.
You need to give up go away while your behind. Do you realize the thrashings that are coming your way?
I have some baked beans and a nice Chianti. For the record I hate fava beans.
That response right there should disqualify you from ever posting one letter of one word on ZH again.
Still waiting for you to post your real name (though I can easily believe people refer to you as 'shitgum' in your everyday dealings with them) and address.
Telephone number too, oh brave keyboard warrior; is the international code +972 by any chance?
Have you?
I have...many times.
So I can call his ass out for that legitimately.
And I did in my response above.
His phone number has a Virginia Area Code...Langley...or maybe DC. He is NSA.
Fuck the NSA. He breeds dishonor to the rest of the US Armed Forces.
No, I don't post my details online. But I'm not the one attempting to dismiss other people's arguments on the grounds that they're being made anonymously.
Unless it's that very argument being made anonymously, obviously ;-)
If you were to dismiss GW's writings on the grounds that they're anonymous, you'd still be wrong, but that would be despite, rather than because, of your own lack of anonymity.
Point understood.
Actually ZH encourages anonymous posting if I have read their policies correctly.
God bless you.
Hey Shitgum Dickhead. Have you ever heard of Thomas Payne? Look him up. He wrote 'Common Sense', without which, there probably would not have been an American Revolution. When he published 'Common Sense', he did so ANONYMOUSLY to avoid the evil wrath of the PTB. It's an American tradition to speak the truth anonymously when necessary, so what is your problem with long standing American tradition?
From wackiWiki - "Thomas Paine has a claim to the title The Father of the American Revolution because of Common Sense, the pro-independence monograph pamphlet he anonymously published on January 10, 1776; signed "Written by an Englishman", the pamphlet became an immediate success.[24] It quickly spread among the literate, and, in three months, 100,000 copies (estimated 500,000 total including unauthorized editions sold during the course of the Revolution)[4] sold throughout the American British colonies (with only two million free inhabitants), making it the best-selling American title. ...
The pamphlet came into circulation in January 1776, after the Revolution had started. It was passed around, and often read aloud in taverns, contributing significantly to spreading the idea of republicanism, bolstering enthusiasm for separation from Britain, and encouraging recruitment for the Continental Army. Paine provided a new and convincing argument for independence by advocating a complete break with history. Common Sense is oriented to the future in a way that compels the reader to make an immediate choice. It offers a solution for Americans disgusted with and alarmed at the threat of tyranny."
You took the bait hook, line and sinker.
Isn't shitgum suicide posting anonymously? Now that is chutzpah if I ever read it, isn't it?
Personally I do not. I have published my name and address on numerous occasions.
So I can make the VALID CRITICISM that he is just an NSA hypocrite.
What is actually quite sad is that he DISHONORS his fallen comrades on the USS Liberty as that was an NSA staffed US Navy Intelligence Ship purposefully attacked by the Israeli Defense Forces.
(His avatar is an NSA Seal after all...He is NSA.)
I used to respect the US Military. But after the dishonorable behavior and outright TREASON by so many officers, even here on these pages, I have lost my admiration and respect.
When these Military Officers fail to abide by the oath of their commission, to defend and to protect the Constitution of the United States, by suggesting that someone not be able to exercise their God given right to the Freedom of the Press, well that is TREASONOUS, isn't it?
Furthermore there are many Jews that do not support the murderous policies of the Israeli Government.
I have posted links to websites which demonstrate this. He has not responded.
Then finally GW stated that his parents are Jews. Judaism is a RACE. If his parents are Jews then he is also Jewish.
But he just chooses to ignore that also.
While I do not believe him to be a bot his behavior mimics that of an automaton with an agenda. He might just as well be one.
Good morning.
+1 Though I think you're a nut for posting your details online :-)
I do take issue with
Then finally GW stated that his parents are Jews. Judaism is a RACE. If his parents are Jews then he is also Jewish.
Here's a great article on being 'Jewish', and the ramifications of declaring the calling out of Israel's atrocities to be 'anti-Semitic':
http://www.counterpunch.org/2002/06/04/what-is-antisemitism/