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Spy Vs. Spy: Obama Spies On Netanyahu, Discovers Netanyahu Spying On Obama

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With the controversy surrounding Netanyahu’s inflammatory campaign rhetoric still simmering, and with Washington making it clear that the White House isn’t intent on “pretending like” the Prime Minister didn’t suggest that a two-state solution would happen over his dead body and that maybe Arab Israelis shouldn’t vote, tensions between the US and Israel don’t appear set to dissipate in the near-term. The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Israel secretly gathered information regarding nuclear talks between Iran and the US then shared the information with members of Congress in an attempt to undermine support for the talks. Here’s WSJ:

The spying operation was part of a broader campaign by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government to penetrate the negotiations and then help build a case against the emerging terms of the deal, current and former U.S. officials said. In addition to eavesdropping, Israel acquired information from confidential U.S. briefings, informants and diplomatic contacts in Europe, the officials said.

But it wasn’t really all the spying and eavesdropping and general sneakiness that irked Washington: 

The espionage didn’t upset the White House as much as Israel’s sharing of inside information with U.S. lawmakers and others to drain support from a high-stakes deal intended to limit Iran’s nuclear program, current and former officials said.

 

“It is one thing for the U.S. and Israel to spy on each other. It is another thing for Israel to steal U.S. secrets and play them back to U.S. legislators to undermine U.S. diplomacy,” said a senior U.S. official briefed on the matter…

 

The U.S. and Israel, longtime allies who routinely swap information on security threats, sometimes operate behind the scenes like spy-versus-spy rivals. The White House has largely tolerated Israeli snooping on U.S. policy makers—a posture Israel takes when the tables are turned.

Where the story really gets amusing though is when The Journal explains how Israel says it actually got the information and how Washington learned about what the Israelis were up to: 

Israeli officials denied spying directly on U.S. negotiators and said they received their information through other means, including close surveillance of Iranian leaders receiving the latest U.S. and European offers…

 

Current and former Israeli officials said their intelligence agencies scaled back their targeting of U.S. officials after the jailing nearly 30 years ago of American Jonathan Pollard for passing secrets to Israel.

 

While U.S. officials may not be direct targets, current and former officials said, Israeli intelligence agencies sweep up communications between U.S. officials and parties targeted by the Israelis, including Iran…

 

As secret talks with Iran progressed into 2013, U.S. intelligence agencies monitored Israel’s communications to see if the country knew of the negotiations. Mr. Obama didn’t tell Mr. Netanyahu until September 2013.

So breaking that down, the US spied on Israel and discovered that Israel was spying on the US, which under normal circumstances would be fine, but this time the Israeli spying was aimed at undermining US diplomacy, so this spying was unacceptable, but Israel contends that in fact, it did not spy on the US to obtain the sensitive information but in fact gathered it from spying on other countries. 

And while the prime minister’s office denies that it conducted any espionage against the US, the Israelis can’t for the life of them figure out why Washington would underestimate their ability to conduct espionage:

A senior official in the prime minister’s office said Monday: “These allegations are utterly false. The state of Israel does not conduct espionage against the United States”...

 

Israeli officials, who said they had already learned about the talks through their own channels, told their U.S. counterparts they were upset about being excluded. “ ‘Did the administration really believe we wouldn’t find out?’ ”

Maybe they’re right, Washington shouldn’t have been surprised because after all, the US probably built the system that Israel used to do the spying:

Americans shouldn’t be surprised, said a person familiar with the Israeli practice, since U.S. intelligence agencies helped the Israelis build a system to listen in on high-level Iranian communications.

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Moving past the comedic value here, the allegations certainly aren’t doing anything to improve the relationship between The White House and Netanyahu in what was already an extremely contentious time for US-Israeli relations. And for anyone who thinks Washington is going to let this slide, here’s a quote from a senior US official: 

“If you’re wondering whether something serious has shifted here, the answer is yes.” 

 

 

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Tue, 03/24/2015 - 13:59 | 5922252 JohninMK
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This is  crazy, I thought NSA shared all their raw data with Israel, so why would Israel need to spy on the US?

It has it all already.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:02 | 5922275 firstdivision
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Israel has been committing corporate espionage on US companies for quite awhile now, and at a large scale, that it is actually worse than the Chinese.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:06 | 5922297 Kaiser Sousa
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if u want to know who they really r and what they r really about....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhFRGDyX48c&list=PLWBIhSetlnufug87QJ0esg...

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:09 | 5922317 remain calm
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Obama would spy on his daddy if he knew who he was. And who in their right fucking mind would trust anything Obama says.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:15 | 5922339 Zymurguy
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"Obama would spy on his daddy if he knew who he was."

Now that's fucking funny! +100

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:22 | 5922369 The Juggernaut
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“If you’re wondering whether something serious has shifted here, the answer is yes.”

So you mean that Israel, the creator of the world’s biggest concentration camp in history (A camp that the Nazi's would be envious of), won’t have muscles anymore?  These warlords day will come and its never soon enough.

 

 

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:30 | 5922397 eatthebanksters
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The most transparent administration in US history was negotiating a deal with Iran for the benefit of everyone!!  Funny how no one knew what the deal points were...not to worry!  Obama and his elitist staff know whats best for the world, or at least they think they do.  Did they honestly think that they could negotiate a deal that impacts the security of Israel without including them in the conversation.  I think Oabam wants this deal so bad right now to save face and the Ayatollah knows it...that's why he's yelling,"Death to America."  Why the fuck would you negotiate with someone like that, especially when you ARE NOT coming from a position of weakness?  As Dershowitz said, I wouldn't let Obama negotiate a one month lease.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:59 | 5922476 0b1knob
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Obama not liar says Obama.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 15:04 | 5922497 Au Member
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Can't quite get my head around how US legislators can be dual citizens and this is not seen as a conflict of interest

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 15:23 | 5922557 Jethro
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Dual citizenship shouldn't be allowed for any public post from dog catcher on up. Dual citizenship means dual loyalties.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 15:57 | 5922691 cnmcdee
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Mossad planned to assassinate George Bush Senior - but the plot was exposed before it could be done, and cancelled.

http://smoloko.com/?p=4188

"Findley reported that Ostrovsky had learned through his sources in the intelligence community that because of President Bush’s seeming intransigence toward Israel’s demands, the Mossad had begun coordinating plans for the assassination of the American president. Ostrovsky relayed this information to several members of the Canadian parliament, indicating that the Mossad and not Israel’s elected leadership, is “the real engine of policy in Israel.” 8 One of those attending the meeting with Ostrovsky passed the information on to another former U.S. Representative, Paul N. (Pete) McCloskey (R-Calif.). Upon learning of the potential threat to President Bush, exCongressman McCloskey himself flew to Canada where he met with Ostrovsky. According to Findley: “Ostrovsky impressed McCloskey as a patriotic Zionist who believes the Mossad is out of control."

History repeats itself folks.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 16:14 | 5922755 RealityColin
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Everyone should read Ostrovsky's books.

Also key:

In October 1998 in a bid to gain the release of Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard, an Israeli team led by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu threatened to blackmail President Bill Clinton with tapes of Clinton and then-intern Monica Lewinsky. When Clinton brought Israel’s request for Pollard’s release to CIA Director George Tenet, Tenet threatened to resign on the spot should Clinton cave and release Pollard. Clinton ultimately declined the Israeli request, though he would consider it once again before the end of his term.

This bombshell claim comes from Daniel Halper’s new book on the Clintons’ rise back to power, “Clinton, Inc.,” in a section based on the author’s review of the so-called “Monica Files,” to which Halper obtained exclusive access.

At one point, Netanyahu reportedly pulled Clinton aside to press for a pet cause for the Israelis–the release of Jonathan Pollard, an American spy for Israel who was sitting in prison. Netanyahu pressed Clinton to release Pollard, which in itself was not an unusual request. But the Israelis present at Wye River had a new tactic for their negotiations–they’d overheard Clinton and Monica and had it on tape. Not wanting to directly threaten the powerful American president, a crucial Israeli ally, Clinton was told that the Israeli government had thrown the tapes away. But the very mention of them was enough to constitute a form of blackmail. And, according to information provided by a CIA source, a stricken Clinton appeared to buckle.

 

 

 

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 17:09 | 5922914 Againstthelie
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Yes, I think the article above and the facts the book describes nothing crazy at all. This IS the usual behaviour of the eternal Jew: not knowing any loyalty to other nations, despite a paper called passport, while collaborating over national borders to the benefit of his people, while camouflaging as American, French, German, British,...

In the West the sheeple are electing people, that are serving not their own nation but this alien nation (see article above) and thanks to their media this is kept out of any discussion although one could say, that this topic was important enough for ALL affected nations, that it HAS TO be discussed. Is it so unimportant, if members of Congress ignore their President, sabotage US foreign policy, because the Jewish state wants the USA to ware war on Iran? How is it possible, that US-American politicians who have sworn on the constitution, are even allowed to ignore the US-Persident but follow the wishes of the government of this alien nation and NOT ONE MEDIA OUTLET in the acclaimed Democracy is raising it's eyebrows but instead the POTUS is being attacked...

Here is an example to watch the nasty "friendly" fire the "powerful" US president received from "american" media just for doing the most natural thing and not bowing to their wishes:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-DAkuTkojg

One doesn't have to like Obama, but if this man deserves respect, then that he didn't bow to the obviously enormous pressure to wage war on Iran.

Sadly for the world sheeple among Western regimes show no interest and therefore have no clue about Judaism. They still can easily be made believe that Judaism was a religion like Christianity, or Islam, or Hinduism, or Buddhism, and they don't even know, that it is missing the elements of a religion (=making the individual LESS egoistic, LESS materialistic and more spiritual) and that it is much more like a tribal survival program for a minority facing a majority.

Since watching this video and how outraged they are, because the US-sheeple is not being led to slaughter against Iran by Obama, I think Obama is living dangerously. Hopefully a deal with Iran will be sealed - and hopefully SOON.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 15:08 | 5922510 Rikky
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6 of 9 million Jews dead you a**hole.  you talk about it like we're counting M&M's.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 16:42 | 5922866 The Juggernaut
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@Rikky: Yea which is terrible.  My point was what the Nazi's did to the Jews is what Israel is now doing to the Palestinians and worse, its terrible.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 17:12 | 5922941 Squid Viscous
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ahh that 6 million number again...  after Auschwitz was officially lowered by what a million or so?

even my jew tax accountant would conclude something's not kosher...lol

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 21:48 | 5923666 Againstthelie
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Even the pope kneed in front of the 4 million plate in Auschwitz. LOL. It has been removed for a long time since but in Europe people are thrown into jail, if they doubt the official version, a version nobody knows and whose "facts" are varying from fairy tale center to fairy tale center, from Yad Vashem to the Auschwitz museum.

I believe currently the totally true hoaxnumbers for Auschwitz-Birkenau are floating somewhere around 200-400.000. Those highly efficient Germans with their "death factories"! The Jewish Bolsheviks in Ukraine didn't need them to kill 10 million christian Ukrainians in a shorter timespan. 6-10 million killed Germans AFTER the war without "death factories"? Mao in China: 20 - 40 million? Didn't even scratch the image of "progressive" Socialism in democracies...

Holomathematics: 6 - 3.5 = 6. Nobody today should laugh about people in former times believing the earth was flat.

No business like Shoahbusiness.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:38 | 5922412 froze25
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His daddy is Frank Marshal Davis the well known communist pornographer that took pictures of his mommy, just look at his picture next to Frank's.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:19 | 5922360 MasterControl
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He does, his name is Frank.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:08 | 5922300 Divided States ...
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You think JOOGLE has its real allegiance to the US of A or Israel? Wake up Americans.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 16:16 | 5922765 BullyBearish
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New CFO fresh from Goldman Sachs...

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:13 | 5922309 Ignatius
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Comverse, an Israeli company, handles almost all the US telephone billing, but only a "conspiracy theorist" or "anti-semite" would think that that isn't a natural and normal to give your neighbor access to your wife's undies drawer.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:51 | 5922448 Chupacabra-322
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NSA feeds raw intelligence data to Israel
A secret memo provided by former National Security Agency (NSA) contractor Edward Snowden to the British Guardian newspaper reveals that the US spy agency is funneling raw intelligence data, including information from intercepted communications of US citizens, to Israeli intelligence.
“The National Security Agency routinely shares raw intelligence with Israel without first sifting it to remove information about US citizens,” the Guardian article by Glenn Greenwald, Laura Poitras and Ewen MacAskill reports.
The most extraordinary passage in the memo requires that the Israeli spooks “destroy upon recognition” any communication provided by the NSA “that is either to or from an official of the US government.” It goes on to spell out that this includes “officials of the Executive Branch (including the White House, Cabinet Departments, and independent agencies); the US House of Representatives and Senate (members and staff); and the US Federal Court System (including, but not limited to, the Supreme Court).”
The stunning implication of this passage is that NSA spying targets not only ordinary American citizens, but also Supreme Court justices, members of Congress and the White House itself. One could hardly ask for a more naked exposure of a police state.
The pretense that Israeli intelligence stumbling across such material would “destroy” it without so much as a peek is ludicrous, and everyone involved in preparing the agreement knows it.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/09/13/surv-s13.html

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 15:23 | 5922559 shovelhead
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I doubt the Israelis would chew them up like the dog does.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:23 | 5922372 lakecity55
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we need to up our spying on tel aviv!

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 16:17 | 5922770 BullyBearish
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Hey Lakecity55...don't you get it...WE is THEY

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:02 | 5922278 forexskin
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good place to post a link for all those who'd like to think on the source of our 'special' relationship:

http://alt-market.com/articles/2544-israel-isis-and-the-end-of-days

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:45 | 5922384 Seek_Truth
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Very good article, thanks- bookmarked.

So much misinfo and disinfo about interpretations of Revelation and end time prophecy. It's not often that Christian writers get it right- But this guy does.

PS- Everyone should read this to understand what the Bible actually teaches, as opposed to what they have been indoctrinated to believe it teaches.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:58 | 5922468 TuPhat
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I would say he get mosts, but not all of it right.  We all have different beliefs as christians.  Which is why I would say that the author generalizes a bit much.  That said I guess it wouldn't be an article if he didn't give it some focus.  It was worth reading.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 15:13 | 5922521 Seek_Truth
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Well there's a lot more to cover, for sure. But what he did write I found little issue with. He didn't get into the identity of the 7th and 8th Kings/Heads of the Beast out of the Sea, nor did he cover the King of the North vs the King of the South in present times. But as far as what he did cover- spot on. Moreso than I have ever seen written in quite a few years in fairly widely circulated platform.

Anything in particular you thought was incorrect in the article?

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 15:58 | 5922695 Rikky
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>>Anything in particular you thought was incorrect in the article?

Where does one start?  Rolling out Scripture to support your angle is as old as the hills.  Replacement Theology is his big fail I won't bother with the rest of the inaccuracies and false conclusions.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 16:09 | 5922724 Seek_Truth
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"Replacement" is a perjorative that is properly called Fulfillment.

"When He said, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to disappear." - Hebrews 8:13

Your indoctrination has blinded you to the truth of God's Word.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 19:03 | 5923265 Erudite Redneck
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The famed vision of the Valley of the Dry Bones, in Chapters 36 and 37, is unquestionably the monumental Biblical fulfillment of the 20th century. The bones (Israel) come together and come back to life, at first as flesh without the spirit. Later, breath is breathed into them. But notice it’s two steps: flesh first, spirit later.

Isaiah, incidentally, makes an interesting remark, speaking of the same thing. He says, “The Lord shall set His hand again the second time to recover the remnant of His people” (Isaiah 11:11). When was the first time? After Babylon, when Cyrus gave the decree to build the Temple. Isaiah is saying that when God gathers them the second time, it will be the last time. From the 19th century on we have seen the move towards Zionism. On May 14, 1948, all the debates should have ended. Are these things literal? Is Israel going to be restored? Argue all you like until May 14, 1948. From that point on throw the old books out unless they agree with what Isaiah is saying, because Israel is there. They are in danger, but they are there.

They are being restored, but many people who study Ezekiel 37 fail to read Ezekiel 36: Why is Israel to be restored?

Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name’s sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went. And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes. For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land”

Ezekiel 36:22-24

God is restoring Israel because His name is on the document. He said He was, that’s why He’s going to do it. Not be-cause Israel deserves it or because of their foreign policy, but because He said He would.

The impending—but ill-fated—invasion of Gog and Magog, described in Chapters 38 and 39, is among the most famous prophetic passages in the Bible and appears on our near horizon. You cannot really understand the caldron of the Middle East without carefully studying this book.

http://www.khouse.org/articles/2009/829/

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 15:16 | 5922535 ILLILLILLI
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There are a lot of defects in the article that are refuted by the actual history rather than how they are presented in the Bible, but that is the great thing about 'belief'...it isn't dependent on facts.

 

He does get this right, however:

The point is that most people hold futurist beliefs about the Book of Revelation and about modern physical Israel without ever questioning the source of their beliefs. And if one dares raise questions, he or she is quickly shouted down with charges of anti-Semitism or worse.

Apocolypticism dominates conventional wisdom. Apocolypticism and Zionism dominate American foreign policy, forcing all U.S. presidential hopefuls and most prominent politicians to don a yarmulke and genuflect before Israel’s prime minister and the Jerusalem Wall if they have any desire to be considered relevant on the national political scene.

For most of the past 70 years, America’s foreign policy has been predicated on what is in Israel’s best interests. As Joe Biden said in 2007, “Imagine our circumstance in the world were there no Israel. How many battleships would there be? How many troops would be stationed?”

It’s high time for that to change and America’s interests put first, before Israel’s, before Saudi Arabia’s and before any other nation’s, but apocalypticism keeps us rooted in the status quo.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 15:41 | 5922617 Seek_Truth
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"There are a lot of defects in the article that are refuted by the actual history rather than how they are presented in the Bible, but that is the great thing about 'belief'...it isn't dependent on facts."

And those "defects" and "facts" are what?

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 15:55 | 5922685 Rikky
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"So who are Abraham’s offspring and heirs to the promise? It is those who are of Christ — God’s true Israel, not some modern-day Israel nation created by the United Nations by rooting out the area’s occupants in 1948. Nor is it some future apocalyptic physical Israel kingdom of God."

 

You get a big FAIL right here.  This is blatantly wrong and is not supported by Scripture.  It's called Replacement Theology and it's been proven wrong so many times I won't bother with citations.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 16:04 | 5922709 Seek_Truth
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The false indoctrination is strong with this one.

"Replacement Theology" is a well known perjorative for what is correctly called Fulfillment Theology.

"When He said, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to disappear." - Hebrews 8:13

Galatians chapter 3 makes it clear that the promise made to Abram was to seed (Jesus Christ) not seeds (Abraham's bloodline, nor those who followed the Mosaic Law).

Read your Bible and learn the truth- The seed promise was fulfilled through Christ (See Isaiah 42:1, 6-7; 43:5-7, 44:1-5; 49:6, Galatians 3, 6:13-16)

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:03 | 5922285 HonkyShogun
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I'm sure they're just playing good twat, bad twat.

 

But it's "footsie" under the table.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:06 | 5922303 BLOTTO
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Its not spying when you both have the same Beast Master.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:48 | 5922440 ParkAveFlasher
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Marc Singer?

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 18:16 | 5923124 Condition 1SQ
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No .. in theory .. it wouldn't make any sense to automatically give Israelis raw intel and vice versa.  It would be done on a case-by-case basis and redacted where required.  You wouldn't want the Israelis to figure out who your assets are and vice versa now would you?  "Be friendly with them, but do not consider them a friend"

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 00:04 | 5924084 one_hundred
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Tue, 03/24/2015 - 13:59 | 5922253 Thirst Mutilator
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Oh FFS!

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:01 | 5922254 Renfield
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I still think this little US-Israel spat is just a dog and pony show for the MSM, a fake slapfight to pretend there's any debate about the US and Israel being joined at the hip. Keeps the MSM audience watching and 'voting' for Congress bigshots, as if they matter. And pretending as though, "Look, they're victims of spying too! We all have to put up with it and none of us likes it!" I'll believe there's a divergence when I see one in POLICY.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:01 | 5922270 Jonesy
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Exactly!

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:30 | 5922395 Freddie
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Who owns Congress and the US Govt?

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:40 | 5922419 froze25
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The un-named share holders (as stated in the federal reserve act) of the Federal Reserve.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 15:05 | 5922502 Colonel Klink
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And AIPAC!

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 15:26 | 5922563 Thirst Mutilator
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MasterBlasterberg runs Bartertown

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 13:59 | 5922255 kliguy38
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We've known for years that they spy on us.....all kabuki theater

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:15 | 5922342 JRobby
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All of it, all US GOV is so irreparably broken that it needs to be scrapped. VOTE ALL THIS EXCREMENT OUT.

ALL OF THEM

START OVER FROM SCRATCH

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:34 | 5922404 NotApplicable
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Voting created this mess, DUH!

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:43 | 5922427 JRobby
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True, can't blame irresponsible voting when both candidates are corrupt, sub-human sociopaths who feed at the septic tank. Of course a third party is out of the question.....

Perhaps an anarcho-syndicalist commune  is the solution?

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:57 | 5922456 Renfield
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How about the secession of small, local governments from these huge, centralised corporate conglomerates?

Including the free issue of scrip by any entity, bank, or government, all allowed to circulate freely from and amongst the population, provided such scrip does represent a real and current asset. Oh, and the criminalisation of counterfeit -- i.e., unbacked -- currency, as a form of fraud?

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 15:46 | 5922646 new game
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the very changes needed come from them. so the conclusion is onward towards the devo-revo...

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:16 | 5922256 JustObserving
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Obama signed a deal with Israel in March 2009 handing over NSA raw intelligence data including that collected on Americans over to Israel without any legal restrictions as Snowden revealed:

“The National Security Agency routinely shares raw intelligence with Israel without first sifting it to remove information about US citizens,” the Guardianarticle by Glenn Greenwald, Laura Poitras and Ewen MacAskill reports.

The memo requests that the Israelis notify the NSA whenever it fishes data on US citizens out of the raw intelligence stream, but allows them to keep “any files containing the identities of US persons” for up to a year. It also permits them to “disseminate foreign intelligence information concerning US persons” gleaned from the unfiltered data provided by the NSA to the Israeli agency’s “customers,” so long as it does so in “a manner that does not identify the US person.”

The most extraordinary passage in the memo requires that the Israeli spooks “destroy upon recognition” any communication provided by the NSA “that is either to or from an official of the US government.” It goes on to spell out that this includes “officials of the Executive Branch (including the White House, Cabinet Departments, and independent agencies); the US House of Representatives and Senate (members and staff); and the US Federal Court System (including, but not limited to, the Supreme Court).”

The stunning implication of this passage is that NSA spying targets not only ordinary American citizens, but also Supreme Court justices, members of Congress and the White House itself. One could hardly ask for a more naked exposure of a police state.

The pretense that Israeli intelligence stumbling across such material would “destroy” it without so much as a peek is ludicrous, and everyone involved in preparing the agreement knows it.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/09/13/surv-s13.html

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:26 | 5922379 Money Boo Boo
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israel is the official boogeyman for the MIC for ops it's not constitutionally able to carry out on its own

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:59 | 5922479 Mister Delicious
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oh - so its not Israel's fault, right?  someone is making them do it?

 

 

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 13:59 | 5922257 tostaky06
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Iran doesn't spy anyone ? 

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 13:59 | 5922258 Edward Morbius
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Can't wait to read the comments on this one.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 13:59 | 5922259 firstdivision
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Did they circulate the size of O-face's cock?

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:01 | 5922261 Ignatius
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I can see that exposing the 9/11 fraud is gonna be a real head slap moment for Americans if they think Israeli spying on the US is news.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:20 | 5922367 SoilMyselfRotten
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Iggy, even the dancing Israeli's have their doubts now

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:02 | 5922263 Jonesy
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Big deal, Israel has been spying on the US for years, and not just the government, but US citizens too.  They are entitled, they own the US via AIPAC, the Fed, Supreme Court, all media, etc.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:03 | 5922282 firstdivision
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AIPAC, the most anti-US special interest group that controls congress. 

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:23 | 5922264 LawsofPhysics
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well, duh...

 

I would hate to think that the hundreds of billions we give the CIA each year were wasted...

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:01 | 5922269 pods
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Hmmmm, that doesn't sound like an act of war does it?

Treason?

And this is from a supposed ALLY?

pods

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:03 | 5922283 Jonesy
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Neither was the USS Liberty.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:01 | 5922271 p00k1e
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Hopefully Israel will sink a U.S. carrier.  We need jobs.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 16:31 | 5922830 Jethro
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LBJ...is that you?

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 15:30 | 5922577 Money_for_Nothing
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Obama is a 12th Imam believer and is trying to enact the Muslim apocalypse which is supposed to happen in Syria.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:02 | 5922276 Emergency Ward
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Hypocrisy is a valued asset of the deep State.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:14 | 5922336 Unknown Poster
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What I got out of the story was Obama lied to congress, and they had to get the slanted truth from Israel. Maybe Israel knows something about Fast and Furious and Bebghazi, because congress can't find out from Obama.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:04 | 5922289 steveharless
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In Honor of all the men that died on the USS Liberty


Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:09 | 5922299 Chuck Knoblauch
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Israeli security companies manage security at US Airforce Bases inside the US, young fools.

Did you know that?

Do you want to know that?

Do you care?

These companies are publically traded, morons.

 

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 22:36 | 5922358 TeethVillage88s
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Well how can I prove that to my father.

I guess I should do some web search key words "Israei, US Airforce Base, Security, Contract, Foreign Nationals, Israeli Forces"

Late Add:

Former Israel Security Agency and El Al Israel Airlines security personnel formed Israeli private security company ICTS International N.V. in 1982.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:07 | 5922308 kowalli
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usa isolated themself

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:08 | 5922310 Be_Optimistic
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I would be interested to find out if Obombers father was a Shia or Sunni.

 

Pro Cuba

Pro Iran

Pro China

Anti Canada

Anti Australia

Anti EU

Very strange times indeed.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:17 | 5922343 tony wilson and...
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obongo shia or sunni?

no fella obongo is  100% talmudick rabbi.

zion loving analist just like you mr optimistic yahudi ; )

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:20 | 5922366 TeethVillage88s
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Got the 411 on Israelis handling security on US Air Force Bases?

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:17 | 5922348 lakecity55
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Yes, but we already know he is vehemently Anti-American!

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:20 | 5922364 Seek_Truth
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You forgot:

Anti-US

Anti-Heterosexual

Anti-Caucasian

Anti-Limited Government

Anti-Truth

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:58 | 5922470 Jethro
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Obama didn't have a father. He's truly a bastard in the literal and figurative sense of the word.

My guess is that Valerie Jarret is more of a male role model to him than any he's ever had.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 16:06 | 5922728 SmedleyButlersGhost
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I disagree - Michele is his male role model

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 16:35 | 5922849 Jethro
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Ha! The First Wookie is probably, no...undoubtedly, his..."pitcher".

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:08 | 5922312 Bumbu Sauce
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Figures the zh commentariat would immediately fire up the ovens.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:30 | 5922396 Dearlydeparted
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Bumbum sauce=Hasbara

 

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:41 | 5922421 First There Is ...
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Figures some turd would equate being critical of Israeli foreign policy with the Holocaust. 

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 15:00 | 5922484 Mister Delicious
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logged in just to say fuck you you pro-israel, anti-america, stupid fuck troll.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 16:17 | 5922773 Bumbu Sauce
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Thanks for that free confession reprobate  :)

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:11 | 5922321 Zymurguy
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To put this in very simple terms:

 

The executive branch of the U.S. govt. is upset because information they wished to keep secret was shared with the public.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:12 | 5922328 I Write Code
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They spied on Obama's teleprompter?

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 15:11 | 5922517 Jethro
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Obama is an inarticulate muppet without it. I wish somebody would put the Constitution on his teleprompter sometime instead of his inane panderings.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:13 | 5922331 Captain Willard
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If there is a God and he/she/it has a sense of humor, Obama and Netanyahu will be condemned to spend eternity sharing a small cell with bunk beds.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 15:02 | 5922489 Caleb Abell
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Bennie will get the top bunk.  Barry is a bottom.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 16:34 | 5922839 SmedleyButlersGhost
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Yea but suppose this is hell? Worse yet - suppose this is heaven?

Sorry this shit happens when I don't drink enough

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:17 | 5922344 Hannibal
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Terrified US Aircraft Carrier Flees From Russian Subs To UK Safety

"...today that three Russian nuclear-powered Akula-class submarines belonging to the 24th Submarine Division of the Northern Fleet (NF) successfully “war-gamed” the American aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt [photo 2nd left] causing it to flee in terror towards the waters off the Hampshire coast in the United Kingdom.

To how this US aircraft carrier was “disabled” by the Northern Fleet’s attack submarines, this report says, was due to the Federations successful implementation of “magrav technology” weapons which had previously been used against American warships, and had “disabled” them too.

Magrav technology”, its import to note, was conceived by the Iranian-born nuclear engineer Mehran Keshe [photo 3rd left], but whose works are banned from public use in the United States under an Executive Order signed by President Obama on 23 April 2012.
The necessity of the US Navy to develop countermeasures against “magrav technology”, this report says, was clearly shown to them last year after Federation air forces completely disabled the feared AEGIS destroyer USS Donald Cook in the Black Sea.  So demoralizing was this attack against the USS Donald Cook, when it limped into a Romanian port for repairs, all 27 of its officers put in for reassignment and/or retirement.

more:

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1853.htm

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:17 | 5922347 chunga
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For such a small percentage of the overall population, the tribe sure manages to stick their noses in a lot of shit.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:20 | 5922357 Bastiat
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Nothing Israel does can be wrong because they are special.   If you don't believe this you hate God.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:25 | 5922378 Renfield
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heh - I thought the point was even worse: that if you don't defer then God hates YOU!

(Right or wrong, you don't need any reasons if God is on YOUR side!)

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:59 | 5922473 Caleb Abell
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Gott Mit Uns

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 16:23 | 5922797 pupdog1
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My mom always said that in the winter when we were kids.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 15:30 | 5922581 Mayer Amschel R...
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According to the Talmud, God, himself, needs to consult with the rabbis! 

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:44 | 5922430 pupdog1
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It ain't God that provides a $3 billion/year welfare payment.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:20 | 5922365 Mike Honcho
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ZH is gonna have to start paying royalties to MAD with this joke of a government.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:23 | 5922373 Sophist Economicus
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THis is what I love:

 

 

The espionage didn’t upset the White House as much as Israel’s sharing of inside information with U.S. lawmakers and others to drain support from a high-stakes deal intended to limit Iran’s nuclear program, current and former officials said

 

Yup, no need for the 'peanut gallery'' -- i.e. the peoples represented politicians (as laughable as those morons are)  to know anything before the deal is cooked 

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:28 | 5922382 p00k1e
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Boehner is ‘baffled’.  He should be fired by Obama with a chrome .45 on the White House Lawn.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 15:18 | 5922539 Jethro
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LOL!!!! Obama's frail little arm would snap in two if he even tried to fire a .45. A chrome one too? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Boehner, if he's even remotely sentient, has to be living in a custom made circle of Hell created just for him where he can endlessly shamble about reeking of scotch and stale Pall Mall's, never-ending tears streaming down his leathery orange skin, sobbing, "I had no choice!"

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:34 | 5922403 Fukushima Fricassee
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Lets see that picture with Reggie launching his ICBM in the bamster.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:37 | 5922410 Sanity Bear
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So talks with Iran aren't going to save every American family an average of $2500 a year?

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:38 | 5922415 SillyWabbits
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When a foreign nation – any foreign nation – has enough agents within the host country to affect policy, foreign or internal, spying is no longer an exercise, it is a tactic.

Those agents within the host are traitors, and the activists in support of such tactics are seditionist – no matter the rationale.

In Ally associations, when the tail wags the dog it is time to send the dog to obedience school.

There is a difference between being friendly and being a friend.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 18:04 | 5923087 UselessEater
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Perhaps in an era before centrals banks married the BIS. There are virtually zero nations left. Spying is a game played over the left over morsels and to ensure disquiet is misdirect into preferred activities.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:39 | 5922418 Jethro
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I thought it was common knowledge that the Israelis (and oddly enough, the English) were the worst perpetrators of industrial espionage in the US. Russia and China are bad too---but you expect them to be.

Throw some political bullshit into the mix, and you have the Clintons just giving away info to China, W and Obama handing over raw intel to Israel on a state level, etc. And, to what end exactly? To foster "friendship"? LOL.

It's treason no matter how you try to dress it up and sell it. Apparently, there's nothing that a politician won't sell for a price.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:42 | 5922426 Platypus
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Obama is the first muslim American president, so If I was Netanyahu i would also keep on eye on him.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 16:18 | 5922775 forwardho
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Since when is selling out the western world to the barbarian muzzies refered to as "diplomacy"?

 

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 18:30 | 5923171 Againstthelie
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Megaphonedesktop? Shekelbloggers?

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 14:52 | 5922454 Rikky
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If your supposed 'ally' was discussing with your enemy things that could result in the annihilation of your nation and you as a people, yeah you're damn right i'd be doing all I could to find out what's going on.  I mean who wouldn't except an ideologue like Obama and his progressive horde?

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 15:09 | 5922512 Jethro
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Don't buy the window dressing dude. This has been going on for a long while.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 15:25 | 5922561 Jano
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BS!!!!!!!

 

I.........30 years ago of American Jonathan Pollard for passing secrets to Israel..........

 

Pollard spied for Soviet Union.

His officer-KGB agent, was Netanyahu.

This proforma Spying for Israel/Mossad was a cover story. If it were for CCCP, Polard would get a bullet (which he deserves).

What do you think Caspar Veinberger was ready to resign, in a case, Pollard gets away with some funny pennalty?    

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 15:30 | 5922582 Jethro
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Treason should be met with a bullet, not a penalty.

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 15:50 | 5922630 RagnarRedux
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More of the usual from the ethno-oligarchs and their built in sayanim network. Quite a bit of economic, financial, martial, political, and social damage for less than 3% of the population.

ISRAEL SELLS ARMS TO CHINA, U.S. SAYS(1993)

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/13/world/israel-sells-arms-to-china-us-sa...

U.S. Furious With Israel After Sale of Advanced Military Technology to China

http://whttp://www.algemeiner.com/2013/12/22/u-s-furious-with-israel-aft...

Israel Flagged as Top Spy Threat to U.S. in New Snowden/NSA Document

http://www.newsweek.com/israel-flagged-top-spy-threat-us-new-snowdennsa-...

Zionist Spies Against America

http://www.rense.com/general79/zspies.htm

Tue, 03/24/2015 - 19:58 | 5923391 Tachyon5321
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The fact remains that Obama is letting the NSA spy on 320 million people in the USA.  So Obama has no reason to complain.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 04:37 | 5924321 talisman
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SHOCKED, I SAY,,,,,SHOCKED !! !! .........“I read that story this morning, and frankly, I was a bit shocked because there’s no information revealed to me whatsoever,” Boehner told reporters on Tuesday. “I was shocked by the fact that there were reports in this press article that information was being passed on from the Israelis to members of Congress. I’m not aware of that at all.”

(from American/Jewish newspaper :http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/03/24/boehner-%E2%80%98shocked%E2%80%99-b...)    

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 04:39 | 5924324 talisman
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really no need for Israel to spy on US, since CIA is little more than a Mossad branch office

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