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US House Votes 348-48 To Arm Ukraine, Russia Warns Lethal Aid Will "Explode The Whole Situation"
Yesterday, in a vote that largely slid under the radar, the House of Representatives passed a resolution urging Obama to send lethal aid to Ukraine, providing offensive, not just "defensive" weapons to the Ukraine army - the same insolvent, hyperinflating Ukraine which, with a Caa3/CC credit rating, last week started preparations to issue sovereign debt with a US guarantee, in essence making it a part of the United States (something the US previously did as a favor to Egypt before the Muslim Brotherhood puppet regime was swept from power by the local army).
The resolution passed with broad bipartisan support by a count of 348 to 48.
According to DW, the measure urges Obama to provide Ukraine with "lethal defensive weapon systems" that would better enable Ukraine to defend its territory from "the unprovoked and continuing aggression of the Russian Federation."
"Policy like this should not be partisan," said House Democrat Eliot Engel, the lead sponsor of the resolution. "That is why we are rising today as Democrats and Republicans, really as Americans, to say enough is enough in Ukraine."
Engel, a New York Democrat, has decided that he knows better than Europe what is the best option for Ukraine's people - a Europe, and especially Germany, which has repeatedly said it rejects a push to give western arms to the Ukraine army, and warned that Russia under President Vladimir Putin has become "a clear threat to half century of American commitment to an investment in a Europe that is whole, free and at peace. A Europe where borders are not changed by force."
This war has left thousands of dead, tens of thousands wounded, a million displaced, and has begun to threaten the post-Cold War stability of Europe," Engel said.
Odd, perhaps the US state department should have thought of that in a little over a year ago when Victoria Nuland was plotting how to most effectively put her puppet government in charge of Kiev and how to overthrow the lawfully elected president in a US-sponsored coup.
Then again, one glance at the Rep. Engel's career donors provides some explanation for his tenacity to start another armed conflict and to escalate what he himself defines as a cold war into a warm one.
So what will Obama do? As a reminder, the president has been far more eager to sit this one out, and giving Europe the upper hand when it comes to the decision if and when to escalate the proxy civil war in Ukraine. To be sure, the vote puts even more pressure on the Obama administration, which has repeatedly said it was considering providing lethal aid to Ukraine; it just never dared to actually pull the trigger. Several months ago, the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman General Martin Dempsey said we would "absolutely consider" providing lethal aid, sentiments that were echoed by Defense Secretary Ashton Carter, who said that he was also "inclined" in that direction.
Obama's options may be even more limited after NATO's top military commander General Philip Breedlove said Sunday that the West should "consider all our tools" to assist Ukraine, including sending defensive weapons to areas held by pro-Russian rebels.
For now the president is delaying because according to the State Department, the White House is waiting to see whether the second Minsk ceasefire will hold before deciding whether to deliver lethal assistance.
Ironically, the biggest stumbling block ahead of an outright overture to World War III, may be Hillary Clinton herself. The former SecState, currently embroiled in an e-mail communication scandal, was recently revealed to have been a recipient of some very generous foreign donations into the Clinton foundation: donations where Ukraine was at the very top!
Considering last week's news of a just as dangerous cold war being waged between Obama's right hand (wo)man, Valerie Jarrett, and the Clintons, it is perhaps just as likely that Obama, whose foreign policy team is absolutely abysmal and whose offshore "achievements" can best be described as a disaster, is not eager to get involved in Ukraine not so much to avert the cold war with Russia to turn hot, but to make Hillary's life difficult as she launches her challenge to Obama's favorite populist Elizabeth Warren.
Then again, when it comes to calling the foreign shots, the US president is merely a figurehead, and the real decision-maker has always been the US military-industrial complex. So while Obama may stall sending weapons, he will ultimately get a tap on the shoulder from the gentle folks shown on the table below, who will soon demand something in exchange for their millions in lobby funding.
The prepackaged spin is already ready: "sending weapons to the Kiev government would not mean involvement in a new war for America", claimed the abovementioned Eliot Engel who sponsored the document. “The people of Ukraine are not looking for American troops," Engel said. "They are just looking for the weapons.”
Beautiful. And if weapons the Ukraine wants, the US MIC will be delighted to provide them.
So the only question is how Russia will responds to this escalation: according to RT, "Washington's decision to supply Ukraine with ammunition and weapons would “explode the whole situation” in eastern Ukraine and Russia would be forced to respond “appropriately,” Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov said at the end of February.
“It would be a major blow to the Minsk agreements and would explode the whole situation,” TASS quoted Ryabkov as saying.
In other words, bullish for stocks - just think of the central-bank monetary paradrops that World War III would unleash.
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Congress Demands War in Ukraine!Just weeks after a European-brokered ceasefire greatly reduced the violence in Ukraine, the US House of Representatives today takes a big step toward re-igniting -- and expanding -- the bloody civil war.
Congress wants a war in Ukraine and will not settle for a ceasefire!
The real world effect of this Resolution must be made clear: The US Congress is giving Kiev the green light to begin a war with Russia, with the implicit guarantee of US backing. This is moral hazard on steroids and could well spark World War III.
The Resolution conveniently ignores that the current crisis in Ukraine was ignited by the US-backed coup which overthrew the elected government of Viktor Yanukovych. The secession of Crimea and eastern Ukraine were a reaction to the illegal coup engineered by US officials such as Victoria Nuland and Geoff Pyatt. Congress instead acts as if one morning the Russians woke up and decided to invade Crimea and eastern Ukraine.
There is no mention at all of US backing for the coup -- or even that a coup took place!
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2015/march/23...
Must Have WAR!
It's the health of the State, after all.
During the Floor debate on the Resolution, Rep. Eliot Engel (D-NY) even compared Russian "action" in Ukraine to Hitler's invasion of Czechoslovakia, demanding that this time the "Hitler" must be stopped before he goes further!
Not a single Member of Congress took the Floor to oppose this dangerous Resolution.
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2015/march/23...
Someone remind Congress of 3.3 million killed in Iraq and that the 2400 tons of depleted uranium used in Iraq has a half-life of 4.5 billion years:
US Sponsored Genocide Against Iraq 1990-2012. Killed 3.3 Million, Including 750,000 Childrenhttp://www.globalresearch.ca/us-sponsored-genocide-against-iraq-1990-201...
Stupis is what stupid does ! That guarantees that those pesky Russians will carve out another good chunk of Ukraine during the next "partnership games" (to start as soon as May...).
War is what governments do when they've collapsed the economy.
No media coverage of the intentional warmongering propelling us to war with Russia.
Nor of the coup by Neocons and Soros in Ukraine to create the situation in the first place.
U.S. Israeli - Zio occupied CONgress votes 348 to 48 to ignite war with Russia, launch a new war on Iran in mideast, and throw hundreds of millions of Americans into wood chipper to be turned into oligarch/CronyCapitalist fuel.
LEVIATHAN MUST FEEEEEEED!
Unleash the Kraken!
Ukraine War sponsored by the Robert Kagan-Victoria Noodleman (nee Nuland) PNAC Trust.
These crazy fucks are going to bring about WWIII if not stopped - no hyperbole.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/victoria-nuland-at-brookings-think-tank-sup...
The Minsk agreement signators are France, Germany, and Russia. If ever we wanted to push Europe into the hands of the East this is how we would do it. We better be willing to go all the way... which means Ukraine better have been a dress reshearsal for regime change in Russia. With China backstopping Russian companies with forex reserves in exchange for equity ownership in their SOE's either we are neurting Russia or neutering the petro dollar. The stakes could not be higher.
...Iran is the next "War".
The giveaway was the $500 million arms booty dropped off in Yemen for ISIS = proxy war by USA
Arms now travel across Saudi peninsula towards Iran.
Russia could take over the whole of Ukraine within a few days, sponsor democratic elections, establish a Federal Structure with an autonomous Donbas Region, then withdraw. In fact.........
Israel first mates.
Draft cards anyone??
Well.....here we go.
What's old....is new again.
If the U.S. Arms Ukraine, Russia Vows Retaliation
The WAR for the Ukraine: What’s the real story?
If the US wanted to arm the Ukrainians, they should establish a base in Ukraine that gets "overrun" by locals.
Boom! $500 million worth of arms in Ukraine. It worked in Yemen.
The price the US voters are ready to pay
http://fortruss.blogspot.de/2015/03/nuclear-blackmail-and-probability-of...
Nuclear war is no joke.
http://www.planbeconomics.com/2015/02/unsurvivable-feature-film.html
Yeah, but it won't last too long either.
is icmb travel time faster than pop corn preparating with a beer open and sat on couch facing window waiting the light ?
....oh my... it's beautiful, i should turn in poetry.
No. It is not.
+1 For the feel good post of the day!
Watch the skies. The war won't be anounced to us but it won't be a surprise. If you see many reports of heavy military air traffic it's time to bug out or bunker down. This is real.
We don't have to watch the skies just the newz - obviously some hidden messages are getting sent between the governments as we speak with the downing of a German airliner - how else would it fly a perfectly computer controlled path straight into a mountain..
I blame the Russians clearly, but who knows.
Your stupidity is glaring.
You as much as admit no one knows, but you blame the Russians.
Apparently your ingroup morality has put any other brain cells you have into a feedback loop. Tough being an idiot.
Because arming Ukrainian rebels/terrorists is okay, but arming a sovereign government is wrong?
Seems to me that they took the weapons from the Ukrainian military.
Just as ISIS gets them from the deserting Iraqi Army or air drops from US/UK planes
Mr.Radioactive rat firstly they are anti-coup federalists just like US treats current kiev coup to be legitimate government . Secondly russians didn't provide them arms they got it mostly form Ukraine itself . How ? Because E.Ukraine is the industrial hub of Ukraine . Stop squealing like a dunghill cunt and get some facts in your brain .
Because arming Ukrainian rebels/terrorists is okay, but arming a sovereign government is wrong?
I bolded the funny parts. You are welcome.
"I blame the Russians clearly," That's a joke right?
Indeed, in context of his clarity it sounded like sarcasm
Hence 1 green arrow
Glad you mention this. Why the Russians?
Strange to say the least that the plane literally goes down from 40,000 ft to 6,000 ft in 8 MINUTES and there's no contact from the cockpit with air traffic control?
Something is up for sure. This doesn't pass the typical airline accident mechanical failure smell test.
The insurance companies will probably rule it an act of God.
Seriously though, who was on that plane that "they" wanted to shut up that badly...
Seriously though, who was on that plane that "they" wanted to shut up that badly...
I had the exact same question.
Very impressive sarcasm. So impressive in fact, that a number of people on this site actually believe you are speaking straight relality. We all should be able to follow your ideas, as we all know that whatever happens it is automatically blamed on the Russians. The main point of course is that there is no possible benefi accruing to Russia from the downing of a commercial flight in France!
Well, I don't know if WW III is coming, but U.S. WW III war games may be coming to your town (or one near you)!
http://www.scribd.com/doc/258605525/Jade-Helm-Martial-Law-WW3-Prep-Docum...
Apparently Victoria Nuland is very Old and was assisting back in The Kennedy Admin and subsequent Republican Administration.
I will have to look it up some day.
Victoria Nuland must be having Plastic Surgery.
No point, the Nudelman was released a year ago.
Leviathan is the name of a new Russian movie - just came out this week
Reminds me of the Movie "Little Shop of Horrors"
The Human Like Plant was always hungry, and controlled the little man, Demanding "Feed Me".
That Plant is the US Government Controllers.
The Little Man is Main Street.
Russia will not fight for EUke. Russia has abandoned every ally it has had since Vietnam.
Russia actually cooperated in the destruction of Iraq, Libya and Syria. Russia forced EUke to allow the WUke army to escape with safe passage twice when the EUke were set to deal a lethal blow. It is almost like Russia is just pretending to be against the west while luring the smaller country to its destruction. Regardless, this vote/action is the result of other countries learning Russia will always avoid direct conflict as long as Russia's borders are not crossed.
Good cop bad cop
CIA or NSA?
Flip a coin.
Definitely CIA, NSA just pushes the record button.
Russia = smart
US Congress = stupid
1) this conflict is a civil war, not a threat/assault on national sovereignty, and...
2) Ukraine is none of our business... let the EU deal with their neighbors.
In other words you are saying Russia will not act in Uke. I agree. Those who post that Russia will take direct action have not paid attention to Russia's past actions.
Now, why did Putin force the EUke army to allow the WUke army to safely withdraw on two seperate occassions. That does not compute with the idea that Russia is supporting the EUke's. Unless Putin wants the conflict to continue, or wants the WUke's to win, or unless Putin is willing to actually enter the conflict directly when the cease fire is violated then his actions make no sense. Based upon Putin's protecting the WUke army in this way, unless he enters the war when it restarts then Putin has acted in a deceptive manner to the detriment of the EUke's and has betrayed the EUke's.
Why let the Junta army withdraw?
Because the conscripts go home and say 'Holy cow, I'm never doing that again." The volonteer Nazi punative battalions don't get to go home. And anybody who does want to leave has to give up their weapons, ammunition and equipment.
I think the Russians know how to handle things in their own 'hood. Should all be clear in a few weeks when it starts up again.
Somebody up thread said May. I think April because the Junta already announced that the first wave of draftees can go home by the end of April to avoid a mutiny after the last disaster in Deblatsevo. If the Junta waits for May, most of their experienced troops will be gone by then. DNR President Zakharchenko has already said there will not be a Minsk 3.
Derived from reading theSaker.is
It has appeared they were getting anxious to push forward, the issue with troops being discharged might be why.
I think the reasons for Russia allowing the troops to leave is different. It did not happen once but at each (2) official cease fire. Allowing the EUke's to wipe out a concentrated mass of WUke troops would have sent a message as well.
Sure and how did trying to kick Russia out of SWIFT work for you? Some things just never change.
This is not a civil war, this is a hostile black ops war of agression.
Ukraine has never been a sovereign nation.
Ukraine was made Autonomous Region by Khrushchev, but not sure how that played out.
Obviously Russia was going to keep Military Assets there and keep Ports. Perhaps the Uki Government was always Run by Russians/ Russian nationals not Ukis.
That seems to be what I used to expect and used to think.
Yes but FDR wanted to buy Ukraine for a Jewish homeland and that still seems to be US policy..........
http://fortruss.blogspot.de/2015/03/how-stalin-played-americans-with.html
A MUST READ for anyone to understand what is going on in Ukraine. History repeats. With Isreal approaching limits of acceptable territorial expansion, Neocons are looking for a new Homeland ,perhaps not Crimea, but certainly Ukraine. Assumption is Russia to weak to resist which so far has proven to be a false assumption. Now people of Western Ukraine have to express their desires through elections or civil war or else become a Jewish State. Already many who emmigrated to Isreal from Eastenr Europe wish to return while Isreali officials are urging them to stay--- for the moment. Underllying the the conflict are also other strategic interests of NATO expansion, energy and other resources, financial sustainability and corporate expansion. A real Nuclear Powder Keg waiting to start a chain reaction for the wrong reason.
"Ukraine has never been a sovereign nation."
I'm starting to see this repeated message as beyond ridiculous
I remember when Ukraine had a UN seat... next to the one of the Soviet Union
I remember when Ukraine had nuclear weapons. I remember when the Russian Federation signed solemn treaties with Ukraine about those weapons
again, beyond ridiculous, particularly when repeated and repeated and repeated
are you retarded? i had a retarded cousin. his logic was like yours. but he was a lot smarter.
The NeoLibs seem to be cheering as well.
They are the other side of the coin of Zion.
History lessons first then...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrxjYfl05ek&list=WL&index=3
Someone remind Congress of 3.3 million killed...
They don't care! Really - they don't and won't care!
This beast is not going to be reformed - EVER. We have to start building something better, apart from it.
Opt out. Use cash. Have no debt. Etc....
My children will not go and spill their blood for these asshats.... That I guarantee you.
This is a nice discussion of NATO and "the bad guys."
http://fromalpha2omega.podomatic.com/entry/2014-11-01T01_52_13-07_00
Just for the record, here is who voted no (mostly dems, of course; with a high concentration of the highly-pigmented lefties that are most hated at ZH:
Nay D Beyer, Donald VA 8th Nay D Bonamici, Suzanne OR 1st Nay D Capuano, Michael MA 7th Nay D Chu, Judy CA 27th Nay D Clark, Katherine MA 5th Nay D Clarke, Yvette NY 9th Nay D Conyers, John MI 13th Nay D Edwards, Donna MD 4th Nay D Ellison, Keith MN 5th Nay D Farr, Sam CA 20th Nay D Frankel, Lois FL 22nd Nay D Fudge, Marcia OH 11th Nay D Grijalva, Raúl AZ 3rd Nay D Hahn, Janice CA 44th Nay D Honda, Mike CA 17th Nay D Huffman, Jared CA 2nd Nay D Johnson, Eddie TX 30th Nay D Johnson, Hank GA 4th Nay D Lawrence, Brenda MI 14th Nay D Lee, Barbara CA 13th Nay D Lewis, John GA 5th Nay D Loebsack, David IA 2nd Nay D Lowenthal, Alan CA 47th Nay D McGovern, Jim MA 2nd Nay D Meeks, Gregory NY 5th Nay D Moore, Gwen WI 4th Nay D Nadler, Jerrold NY 10th Nay D Nolan, Richard MN 8th Nay D O'Rourke, Beto TX 16th Nay D Pocan, Mark WI 2nd Nay D Schakowsky, Jan IL 9th Nay D Schrader, Kurt OR 5th Nay D Speier, Jackie CA 14th Nay D Takano, Mark CA 41st Nay D Tsongas, Niki MA 3rd Nay D Waters, Maxine CA 43rd Nay D Watson Coleman, Bonnie NJ 12th Nay D Welch, Peter VT Nay R Amash, Justin MI 3rd Nay R Clawson, Curt FL 19th Nay R DesJarlais, Scott TN 4th Nay R Duncan, John TN 2nd Nay R Huelskamp, Tim KS 1st Nay R Jones, Walter NC 3rd Nay R Massie, Thomas KY 4th Nay R Mulvaney, Mick SC 5th Nay R Posey, Bill FL 8th Nay R Rohrabacher, Dana CA 48thI don't understand your "highly pigmented" statement. It doesn't make any sense given the list. Are you one of the trolls trying to keep race-baiting at the top of the theme list here at ZH? Pathetic...
Thanks for the list.
Did not understand why the above article did not take the time and energy to list these Congress Members. And i did understand the "highly-pigmented" being from Walter Jones's neck of the woods.
Here is a link to the roll call http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2015/roll131.xml
Think about emailing your rep to let them know what you think of how they voted. I emailed mine, one of 10 Republicans who had the balls to vote against the oligarchy.
So WWIII is coming, you have time to get ready and save those you care about, even if they don't beleive you at this time.
The trigger for WWIII is said to be when N Korea attacks S Korea. About a week after that there will be a Russia/China first strike on the US.
You still have time to save the people you care about, these are just the opening shots, the big war may not come for a few years.
Get ready, get away from primary targets, save as many as you can. Maybe we can rebuild a better world when all this is over minus the Oligarchs.
Fukushima made running anywhere in North America pointless.
100 Russian nukes, while destroying quite a bit initially, would only be a drop in a very big bucket of radiation killing us slowly.
And whose to say the Eugenicists don't want it to happen? It would certainly fit in with the Georgia Guidestones.
Psssst!
Little Big secret; "they" sometime ago figured a cure for radiation exposure and for cancer. The CIA in fact could cause a fast acting cancer since at least 1970 ... So they don't really fear radiation/fallout.
If you think they do you're operating from a false premise.
Well, that goes against everything known to Nuclear Physics, but hey, I hope it works for them and their kids.
There is a lot of silliness on the internet.
Extremophiles like radiodurans can survive high radiation because of excellent DNA repair mechanisms and high levels of endogenous antioxidants.
Both lacking in man and his medical technologies.
Just read a page about Radiodurans: incredible organism, we could create genetically modified superhumans with that.
Those things resist even from acid and can revive even a few hour after death !
What a bunch of monsters !
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/gwen_moore/400661
scared the shit out of me, i tought i clicked on next planet of apes trailer on youtube
A) it isn't a secret if YOU know it.
B) if you KNOW it, cite it or keep it to yourself.
Maybe they have something <exotic> but I will give tip a powerful remedy to protect from radiation - Tumeric, this is coming from Dr Russell Blaylock a retired Neurosurgeon, so I trust his research. Buy it in 10 lb bags at any restaurant supply store for cheap. Taken in hot water increases it's absorption.
http://healthimpactnews.com/2013/turmeric-protects-against-radiation-tre...
I cook my rice in it. It's healthy, I've read, and it gives a nice funky colour. I also take Calcium-Magnesium supplements, simple pills to douse the system, don't want any stray strontium-90 walking in. Have zeolite when SHTF and an ever changing "exit plan".
Have you seen "On the beach"? (the 1959 film)
That's what I'll be doing... sip cocktails under a plamtree and enjoy myself with female company, in the last few months of my existence, as the nuclear fallout slowly spreads around the southern hemisphere after it's completely covered the northern. This planet's atmosphere will be fucked if there's a full scale nuke war. Practically forever for complex DNA based lifeforms. Maybe some slime moss will survive. Big deal. Slime moss.
So, we have one chance.
To stop these dangerous psychopaths. It's difficult because violence and fear is their game, raw power and exploitation is their field of expertise.
But they're wrong. Very, very wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80tksEgdQfY
About a week after that there will be a Russia/China first strike on the US.
It's more like 6 hours.
USD defense once again: Iraq 2003, Libya 2011, Russia, Saudi being blackmailled with 28 pages 9-11.
Another failed plan, unless they send in trained troops with the willingness to fight and die for a failed state will not make a difference in Ukraine. Weapons without training and the will to fight useless other than more profit for the arms dealers.
What Putin's counter move will be is the next act in the comedy/tragedy.
I bet the counter move will not be in Ukraine.
A big part of it, as stated earlier, might be to allow the Western Uke army to take control of Western Ukraine away from the Jewish oligarch warlords, since the East is already lost.
A big part of the push into Ukraine is to centralize authority, not just keep Russia out of Crimea (which didn't happen).
And I specify Jewish Oligarchs, because they are all - 100% - Jewish.
Israel is not the first Jewish-run country in the last century. There are many others - all of which have a history of violent suppression and mass murder.
The question now is, what other countries do they control besides Israel and Ukraine?
Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life.
– Eric Hoffer, The True Believer
And a deep study of the Talmud can bring great clarity to the affairs of men.
Not so much the affairs of G-d.
schhhh
hush now my dear.
the last time eye mentioned the masonic the cube saturn the tora bora and the talmud i got deleted.
we must die so the jewisher rabbi may live underground to rape and tax anew
I think you're right. I expect the next shoe to drop far from Ukraine
"When all else fails, they take you to war."
-Gerald Celente
I just saw the UK zionist run state has decided to beef up its forces in the Malvinas due to "a new threat".
The new threat being Putin giving lethal aid to Argentina to continue its claim to a peice of land it has never controlled. Kirchner is insane and desperate for a distraction from her domestic failings, and Putin sees away of tying up whats left of the British military far, far away from Europe.
He's cunning, you've got to give him that.
Yes, the Anglo-American-Australian Relationship allows strategic Hubs to be used when they want to Wage World War and make sure the Assets and Resources are available.
I'm not sure these hubs are for use of Labor Forces or Slave Labor as Labor seems widely available. Well and Prisons or Detention camps can be used for Labor too.
For the record, I'd expect articles of this kind to up to ZH standards by having a list or a link to the vote results.
We need to see the List of Fame and List of Shame.
Kirk, not so useful when it is so one-sided. Some in favor can vote against in a limited hang out way, to get credibility without jepardizing the intended result.
Right, so they can be for it before they were against it.
What a bunch of rotten pigs, all of them.
An estimation of US dominated world peace casualties exists and it ends up to a total 20-30M since WWII. Pax Romana 2.0 had a price to be paid.
Idiocy at it's finest but when Congress is bought and paid for by financial and defense warmonger lobbyists no surprise
We are Goverened by ADD Children, Psychopaths & Sociopaths.
Today, we're all neocons.
The whole point of this vote was to show solidarity within the leadership of the country, and no matter what response we receive we will say the nation is for war.
The "solidarity" is the tell.
The "solidarity" reeks of collusion of left and right to take the desperate steps necessary to provide cover. Cover for a collapsing economy, and monetary system, as the world turns their collective backs.
I full well expect to hear the "Nobel" state, "If you're not for us, you're against us!"
The war is not the point. The deception is.
Man, I didn't know ISIS was in Ukraine, certainly we need to send billions of weapons, vehicles and ammo over so we can watch it get taken over when our puppet government falls.
Apparently those ladies and genetlemen in the employment office are good at what they do :-)
Dumb whores doing what they are paid to do.
Carl Rove.....please pick up the white courtesy phone.
Lets pacify some folks!
I hope the Ukrainian Army either:
A. Uses those weapons on the oligarchs and scum in Kiev including the Azov battallion
or
B. Gives it to the NovoRussians and joins with them in going after the scum in Kiev.
You can send them tons of weapons but they don't want to fight for the dual shitizen vermin in Kiev.
I'm making over $7k a month working part time. I kept hearing other people tell me how much money they can make online so I decided to look into it. Well, it was all true and has totally changed my life. This is what I do... www.globe-report.com
Russia my invade to cease those WMDs, sent by the US? In the meantime they can sweep the nazis from the power.
Maybe send some leathal aid to Cuba in order to liberate Guantanamo...
We've always been at war with ourself.
I've always been at war with gin and her ally tonic. Shit, I lost again.
Liquor is my lover
we've taken ourselves prisoner too
can't wait to be tortured
meh... They all want war. fucking fucks!
Just imagine the signal this sends to the Russians.
Well, you don't have to imagine it. You can check out various blogs where Russians post. They see America as crazed warmongers who want to destroy them or enslave them.
This is extremely dangerous.
Imagine the US response if 75% of Russia's Duma approved Russian troops and weapons in East Ukraine.
Every kid of every US Congress man and woman has a duty to perform. It's not that hard to understand. The effort has to stop somewhere.
The sponsor for House Resolution 162
Eliot L. Engel
2462 Rayburn House Office Building
(202) 225-2464
Give this A-hole a ring!
Give us your gold and we'll give you a few guns.
Too late. Maybe chocolate?
We have the best government money can buy.
Where are all those anti-war protestors? "No Blood For Oil!" Or in this case, No Blood For Gas.
Say I'm working at NSA and somebody puts a code on my desk, something no one else can break. Maybe I take a shot at it, maybe I break it. And I'm real happy with myself, 'cause I did my job well. But maybe that code was the location of some rebel army in North Africa or the Middle East. Once they have that location, they bomb the village where the rebels are hiding. Fifteen hundred people that I never met, never had no problem with, get killed.
Now the politicians are sayin', "Oh, send in the Marines to secure the area" 'cause they don't give a shit. It won't be their kid over there, gettin' shot. Just like it wasn't them when their number got called, 'cause they were all pullin' a tour in the National Guard. It'll be some kid from Southie over there takin' shrapnel in the ass. He comes back to find that the plant he used to work at got exported to the country he just got back from. And the guy who put the shrapnel in his ass got his old job, 'cause he'll work for fifteen cents a day and no bathroom breaks. Meanwhile, he realizes the only reason he was over there in the first place was so we could install a government that would sell us oil at a good price. And, of course, the oil companies used the skirmish over there to scare up domestic oil prices. A cute little ancillary benefit for them, but it ain't helping my buddy at two-fifty a gallon.
And they're takin' their sweet time bringin' the oil back, of course, and maybe they even took the liberty of hiring an alcoholic skipper who likes to drink martinis and fuckin' play slalom with the icebergs. It ain't too long 'til he hits one, spills the oil and kills all the sea life in the North Atlantic. So now my buddy's out of work, he can't afford to drive, so he's walking to the fuckin' job interviews, which sucks 'cause the shrapnel in his ass is givin' him chronic hemorrhoids.
And meanwhile he's starvin', 'cause every time he tries to get a bite to eat, the only blue plate special they're servin' is North Atlantic scrod with Quaker State. So what did I think? I'm holdin' out for somethin' better. I figure fuck it, while I'm at it why not just shoot my buddy, take his job, give it to his sworn enemy, hike up gas prices, bomb a village, club a baby seal, hit the hash pipe and join the National Guard. I could be elected president.
~ Good Will Hunting
Where are all those anti-war protestors?
Home, because "their guy" is in the big office now. They never really cared - it was only party bullshit.
So true. I make it a point to point that out to all the liberals I know who were anti war when Bush was in office. They are like fair weather fans.
the only people who consistently care are the Ron Paul supporters, but no one listens to us anyway. I sometimes find it entertaining to watch MSNBC when shit like this is going on, its entertaining as hell. You should have seen all those guys when obama was trying to get support to attack syria. All of them making excuses, finding ways to say that was somehow any different, any better, than what bush did in Iraq. These same people calling bush a war criminal and constantly pointing out the illegality of it all, and the lack of good evidence of WMDs, now putting themselves behind obama, since its their guy doing it now. Somehow, to them, Obama is somehow 'enlightened', so that makes anything he does ok.
Good post. Back when the 'red line' was drawn, I watched a little fox and msnbc, back to back.
On Fox, they were supporting the attack on Syria because fight them over there, because terrrist, and because spread democracy.
Flip over to MSNBC, they were supporting the attack on Syria because the children murdered by Assad.
Same message, different spin for different audience.
I gave it all up. I get my news here and a few other places on the net. FUCK TV.
It's even worse than that. It's not that they didn't care before, it's that their minds are so fucking controlled by a false paradigm that they are literally unable to grasp the hypocrisy. They can't grasp reality at all. This is true of anyone who accepts any of the left vs right, repub vs democrat horsesshit that they are fed. Anyone... Any of it.
I heard Ukrainian finance minister Natalie Jaresko (A US citizen, by the way) on the radio today, talking to the BBC program on NPR in the afternoon. She was hilarious. She's encouraging private US investment and Ukraine is a great opportunity! She doesn't like to talk about "Oligarchs" running things because that would give people the mistaken impression that Ukraine isn't a bastion of rule of law, transparency and accountability. Corruption and Oligarchical looting has been a problem in the past, she admits, but now to even use the word "Oligarch" is to create a false impression. Sure, there are big business interests in Ukraine, like anywhere else. But if any business interests tried to to exert political power, that would be bad for Ukraine so that simply won't happen.
I had to change the station because although I was enjoying the hell out of it, I was trying to drive in traffic, and I didn't think I could keep it together. To her credit, the BBC interviewer was barely keeping a straight face, either.
Seriously, there must be a mill where they're cranking out these utterly amoral, ruthless, sociopathic congenital female liars with elite education. They all even sound the same; like they're all auditioning to play Hilary Clinton on Saturday Night Live.
That little prize package will fit in well!
"Seriously, there must be a mill where they're cranking out these utterly amoral, ruthless, sociopathic congenital female liars with elite education. "
Brown University?
Genetic labs on Plum Island. Which has now been moved farther down the coast.
kali, i know one out there. they are actually stupid, degreed(double masters), and boy can they talk the talk. close minded, biased beyond belief, and man haters...
"Brown University?"
I just knew someone would play the color card.
The hardcore man haters come outta the dyke schools like Wellesley, etc
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Sisters_(colleges)
@swmnguy - I only listen to the local NPR because I'm in a rural area & they're the only station that has good jazz, blues, and classical music.
Now I always turn the station off when they do the 'news' or I end up yelling at the radio.
I've never donated a cent to those azzhats, and I never will.
When I lived in farm country we could get the NPR classical service. But here in the city, there's the classical, the all-news, and a alt/rock (or whatever you'd call it; modern rock? Hipster rock?) station. I do like the classical/jazz station, and even most of the hipster rock station.
I used to be able to tolerate the news service, until 6 or 8 years ago. I can handle "This American Life," but that's about it. The neo-Liberal self-satisfaction is just intolerable. There's a very specific elitist, yet pseudo-populist, smug, condescending sensibility that, like you, I just can't take. And since they run commercials these days (albeit short ones) from all manner of corporate interests, they clearly don't need my money. Nor would I give it to them.
Upvote for yelling at the National Propaganda Radio news. Can't listen to it anymore.
They'll inform you about how great the economy is doing, how real estate always goes up, how many jobs O'savior has added and what a great job he's doing, how common core will make your kid smarter, how diversity will improve your life, et al.
As I listened to it the last time, I sat there thinking "how can any halfway intelligent person capable of observation (ie not looking at a goddamn screen constantly) believe this shit?
then I remembered. AMERICA FUCK YEAH!
They're even more cunning than that. They know their audience well. They'll approach the propaganda task as if their audience is probably smart enough to have noticed the cracks in the facade, so they trot out the likes of David Brooks and E.J. Dionne to reassure us all that, oh sure, there are issues and we can all see them, but they're all transitory and merely cosmetic. In no way is there any real threat to the magnificent edifice of the status quo, but you're such a smart little monkey for having noticed.
"a mill where they're cranking out these utterly amoral, ruthless, sociopathic congenital female liars"
I hear they have one for the boys too
The war crimes reparation bill is gonna be huge. justice4germans.com
If you live rural get some new tires ,spare belts all the lubes wires plugs . Put some fuel back. Ration cards suck according to granddad. If you live in the big city's Godspeed all I can say
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-24/zombie-apocalypse-heres-where-n...
The evil Amerikan empire strikes again! Imperialist exceptionalism hard at work! A once great republic in its waning days that can't come soon enough!
"The evil Amerikan empire strikes again!"
With respect, but this is not the actions of America, or even Americans. This is the actions and behavior of the criminals of the Unconstitutional and usurping nation, the DC US, that is occupying and persecuting the American country, and people, on behalf of their masters, Zion.
As way of illustration, view the photos and videos of the Bundy Ranch standoff. That was America on display in all their and her glory against the treason of the DC US nation.
The banksters need to repay us.
While not agreeing with their beliefs, one of the greatest stands against the tyranny of the DC US nation was displayed in Waco by the Davidians. They did not cower before tyranny. They took some of the "tread of tyranny" with them.
Senators Obama and Lugar convinced Ukraine to give up all their conventional weapons prior to 2008. They sold off hundreds of tanks, APC, artillary to mostly Middle Eastern countries. Prior to that, Clinton convinced Ukraine to give up any missile and related technoligy that could be used for nuclear weapons.
Same do-gooders will demand demilitarization of Ukraine again in 10 years. Let them all alone....
Ukraine also agreed to give up their nukes when they cut ties to Russia. Since then Obama has cancelled missle defense batteries in Poland, Told Nedved he could grease Putins palms more on Nukes after the election. I see Obama's weakness as the main reason Putin has made his move into Ukraine. Doesn't matter what congress asks for, Obama won't do much to help Ukraine. Hell Obama is friendlier with Iran then he ever was with Ukraine or any of the Baltic states. Muslim Brotherhood, good friends with Obama. Hamas, yes Obama love them. CAIR got a close ear to Eric the Red Holder. Palestinians, well gee their just poor old souls looking for a homeland. Total BS.
Uke's nukes are mostly AWOL or have been "repurposed".
Can't find the ZH post at this instant, but the blogger stated that Israel has most of them, and that 26 of them were planted in major US cities for blackmail purposes.
If America doesn't have a military coup I fear that there's no limit to the madness of Washington.
Some analysts claim the plan is to fracture America, and the EU, into smaller nation states more easily controlled by a UN with sharper teeth than it currently has. A global bank can force this, just as the London banking did with the destruction of the American republic. That cute little turtle "slow and steady wins the race". There;s turtles all over the dang world :-(
CANADA IS GIVING MONEY TO THE CLINTONS? WHAT SON OF A BITCH APPROVED THAT?
Well, that vote pretty much says who owns the US government....
Bullish for Boeing.
What the fuck does Ukraine have to do with the US in the first place?
Yanks go home and mind your own fucking business. The world has had enough.