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US House Votes 348-48 To Arm Ukraine, Russia Warns Lethal Aid Will "Explode The Whole Situation"

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Yesterday, in a vote that largely slid under the radar, the House of Representatives passed a resolution urging Obama to send lethal aid to Ukraine, providing offensive, not just "defensive" weapons to the Ukraine army - the same insolvent, hyperinflating Ukraine which, with a Caa3/CC credit rating, last week started preparations to issue sovereign debt with a US guarantee, in essence making it a part of the United States (something the US previously did as a favor to Egypt before the Muslim Brotherhood puppet regime was swept from power by the local army).

The resolution passed with broad bipartisan support by a count of 348 to 48.

According to DW,  the measure urges Obama to provide Ukraine with "lethal defensive weapon systems" that would better enable Ukraine to defend its territory from "the unprovoked and continuing aggression of the Russian Federation."

"Policy like this should not be partisan," said House Democrat Eliot Engel, the lead sponsor of the resolution. "That is why we are rising today as Democrats and Republicans, really as Americans, to say enough is enough in Ukraine."

Engel, a New York Democrat, has decided that he knows better than Europe what is the best option for Ukraine's people - a Europe, and especially Germany, which has repeatedly said it rejects a push to give western arms to the Ukraine army, and warned that Russia under President Vladimir Putin has become "a clear threat to half century of American commitment to an investment in a Europe that is whole, free and at peace. A Europe where borders are not changed by force."

This war has left thousands of dead, tens of thousands wounded, a million displaced, and has begun to threaten the post-Cold War stability of Europe," Engel said.

Odd, perhaps the US state department should have thought of that in a little over a year ago when Victoria Nuland was plotting how to most effectively put her puppet government in charge of Kiev and how to overthrow the lawfully elected president in a US-sponsored coup.

Then again, one glance at the Rep. Engel's career donors provides some explanation for his tenacity to start another armed conflict and to escalate what he himself defines as a cold war into a warm one.

 

So what will Obama do? As a reminder, the president has been far more eager to sit this one out, and giving Europe the upper hand when it comes to the decision if and when to escalate the proxy civil war in Ukraine.  To be sure, the vote puts even more pressure on the Obama administration, which has repeatedly said it was considering providing lethal aid to Ukraine; it just never dared to actually pull the trigger. Several months ago, the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman General Martin Dempsey said we would "absolutely consider" providing lethal aid, sentiments that were echoed by Defense Secretary Ashton Carter, who said that he was also "inclined" in that direction.

Obama's options may be even more limited after NATO's top military commander General Philip Breedlove said Sunday that the West should "consider all our tools" to assist Ukraine, including sending defensive weapons to areas held by pro-Russian rebels.

For now the president is delaying because according to the State Department, the White House is waiting to see whether the second Minsk ceasefire will hold before deciding whether to deliver lethal assistance.

Ironically, the biggest stumbling block ahead of an outright overture to World War III, may be Hillary Clinton herself. The former SecState, currently embroiled in an e-mail communication scandal, was recently revealed to have been a recipient of some very generous foreign donations into the Clinton foundation: donations where Ukraine was at the very top!

 

Considering last week's news of a just as dangerous cold war being waged between Obama's right hand (wo)man, Valerie Jarrett, and the Clintons, it is perhaps just as likely that Obama, whose foreign policy team is absolutely abysmal and whose offshore "achievements" can best be described as a disaster, is not eager to get involved in Ukraine not so much to avert the cold war with Russia to turn hot, but to make Hillary's life difficult as she launches her challenge to Obama's favorite populist Elizabeth Warren.

Then again, when it comes to calling the foreign shots, the US president is merely a figurehead, and the real decision-maker has always been the US military-industrial complex. So while Obama may stall sending weapons, he will ultimately get a tap on the shoulder from the gentle folks shown on the table below, who will soon demand something in exchange for their millions in lobby funding.

The prepackaged spin is already ready: "sending weapons to the Kiev government would not mean involvement in a new war for America", claimed the abovementioned Eliot Engel who sponsored the document. “The people of Ukraine are not looking for American troops," Engel said. "They are just looking for the weapons.

Beautiful. And if weapons the Ukraine wants, the US MIC will be delighted to provide them.

So the only question is how Russia will responds to this escalation: according to RT, "Washington's decision to supply Ukraine with ammunition and weapons would “explode the whole situation” in eastern Ukraine and Russia would be forced to respond “appropriately,” Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov said at the end of February.

“It would be a major blow to the Minsk agreements and would explode the whole situation,” TASS quoted Ryabkov as saying.

In other words, bullish for stocks - just think of the central-bank monetary paradrops that World War III would unleash.

 

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Wed, 03/25/2015 - 04:13 | 5924304 Debugas
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it is a cult of death

they treat human race as a virus

they want it exterminated

they want the world for the top 1%

the rest 99% should be exterminated

from this point of view they are not insane , they are very pragmatic

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 09:13 | 5924829 Jethro
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They aren't trying to do what viruses aren't trying to do. The elites need a host, just as viruses need a host. The problem is the same though, the viruses just keep expanding because that is what viruses do, and the elites keep destroying, because that is their nature.

I'd like to propose that all elected, and direct hire government positions (candidates and applicants) be subjected to a brain scan to test for sociopathy. If the brain scan shows even marginal traits of a sociopath, then that person can't enter office/position.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 01:46 | 5924192 Izznogood
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Russia would be forced to respond “appropriately,” Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov said, "by sending more lethal weapons and soldiers into Ukraine than we have done so far"

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 01:56 | 5924199 Magooo
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The same sorts of people have been complaining about the same sorts of things since the beginning of time --- the romans, the persians, the spanish, the dutch, the brits- and what changes?

 

NOT A FUCKING THING

 

Because we are humans - we are brutes.  We are killers.  We are torturers.  We are rapists.  We are vile mother fuckers.

 

Oh but Jesus tells us we are only flawed.

 

Fuck off Jesus -- we ain't flawed.  We are hard wired this way.

 

How many centuries of the same old shit before the donkeys out there reach the same conclusion? 

 

Point to a single fucking empire that was not based on boot to neck?    One single empire.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 05:33 | 5924360 NuYawkFrankie
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re we are brutes.  We are killers.  We are torturers.  We are rapists.  We are vile mother fuckers

 

You should be more careful of the company you keep.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 07:12 | 5924483 Gadfly
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"we are brutes.  We are killers.  We are torturers.  We are rapists.  We are vile mother fuckers."

What do you mean "we" white man. 

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 07:16 | 5924492 SmedleyButlersGhost
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OK - "you are bruts. You are killers. You are torturers. You are rapists. You are vile mother fuckers."

You gotta admit - you left yourself wide open for that one

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 09:24 | 5924881 Jethro
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LOL. This is a human condition, not an ethnic one. Asians, Africans, Native American, Europeans, etc.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 07:13 | 5924485 SmedleyButlersGhost
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Here is one - Angel Campos - amazing MLB stats.

Oh shit - sorry- thought that read umpires - never mind

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 02:28 | 5924236 hibou-Owl
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up next! yanks provide weapons to Dads Army, bit of a fight happens, and Russian capture all the US made weapons.

Repeat same action expecting different results. Dumb Arse yanks.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 02:39 | 5924247 Jack Daniels Esq
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Betcha the dumb black muslim will just roll another fat one

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 03:15 | 5924265 Debugas
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russia will officially send troops into ukraine

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 03:26 | 5924271 Surveyor4Pres
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If you think this is bad, I've got three words for you:

Jade Helm 15

http://www.infowars.com/more-states-added-to-jade-helm-military-exercise/


Wed, 03/25/2015 - 04:06 | 5924298 anonymice
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Let's just hope Putin doesn't reciprocate by providing "non-lethal arms" to a Ferguson near you. 

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 04:06 | 5924299 Panic Mode
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Another war they can't win. They have to do QE to eternity to fund this war.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 06:18 | 5924388 1stepcloser
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Funding wont be a problem about 30 Mins after the start of it...

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 04:23 | 5924310 CHX
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War is peace... MOAR de-deescalation... Sure sounds like a "sound" US plan once again...

 

/sarc

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 04:28 | 5924315 Lex_Luthor
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Maybe send some leathal aid to Cuba in order to liberate Guantanamo...

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 04:35 | 5924318 NuYawkFrankie
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re US House Votes To Arm Ukraine

What else would you expect of the USSA SKKUMMM* ?

(*SKKUMMM - Satantic Kosher Kongress Underwriting Mass-Murder & Mayhem)

 

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:58 | 5925304 Unix
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I would expect no less from a New York scumbag such as yourself. Hate your country much? LOL I'll be happy to fund a one way plane ticket to Siberia for you, as you would undoutably LOVE it there, traitor!

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 04:41 | 5924326 KashNCarry
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Here's a video with the Russian perspective: 'Crimea: The Way Back Home' Andrey Kondrashov's documentary on the return of Crimea available with English subtitles.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 04:51 | 5924335 justmy2cents
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And a brilliant video it is too. Puts laid to rest any talk of Crimea being Ukrainian in any sense of the word.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 04:49 | 5924331 justmy2cents
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This is how empires die - one mistake at a time...

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 04:55 | 5924338 Joe A
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"a clear threat to half century of American commitment to an investment in a Europe that is whole, free and at peace. A Europe where borders are not changed by force."

As in Yugoslavia?

Anyway, moar war. That is what they want. And Ukraine will try everything to get NATO to go to war with Russia. European leaders are not stupid and see what is happening but just in the case of Yugoslavia they are powerless to do something about it. Powerless on their own continent. For it has been occupied since WWII.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 05:07 | 5924345 JPMorgan
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Putin may officially give the order to rush Kiev and take control of Ukraine yet.

As the American's are not going to stop pushing for war, so that kind of makes options somewhat limited.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 05:18 | 5924354 Firewood
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The psychopaths in the Washing town thugocracy, the whores, pimps, carpetbaggers and merchants of death, obviously imagine their chances of surviving a global thermonuclear confrontation with Russia and China are better than surviving the wrath of Mercan zombie protoplast in the inevitable collapse of USSA itself after the fast approaching Ponzi shithouse of the Wall St shaman banksters implodes and the armed madhouse food stamp nation goes Weimar in the ruins.

 

"The Power Principle".....same as it alway$ was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5If2YaLtX4

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:26 | 5925146 Monty Burns
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One thing for sure, they and theirs won't be putting their precious asses on the line if the bullets start flying.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 05:26 | 5924357 ThankYouSirMayI...
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May I suggest a quote from a Louis Black skit....FUCK,FUCK,FUCK,FUCK,FUCK,FUCK,FUCK!

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 06:00 | 5924374 Rusputin
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I can feel a no-fly zone coming on and the smell of Spetsnaz in the morning!

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 06:20 | 5924390 Sandmann
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No fly zone with S-500 missiles should be fun as is the phased-array radar systems. I think Germany might ask the US to leave if it continues to be a firebug in a powder store

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 06:15 | 5924387 1stepcloser
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Did we give up when the Americans bombed ukraine....No!

-Putin

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 06:19 | 5924389 cherry picker
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For many of you who think like myself, anti war, get ready to get the hell out of the USA.

I live in Canada and I lived down South.  Probably Latin America is safest from nuclear annihilation.  There are more pro war psychos in the USA than antiwar and they will label you traitors and cowards and take you in or fry you.  These are the patriots uber all.

Get the hell out like the smart Jews and intellectuals who left Nazi Germany in the 30's and saved the lives of their own families and themselves for they saw what was coming.  You know in the end who will lose. 

It is either that or shut your government down and take over the pentagon, which is going to be difficult as there are many "patriots" who will turn you in or kill you for the "homeland"

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 06:38 | 5924409 VyseLegendaire
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I get the thrust of your argument, but nuclear war is a global war.  Fleeing to South America is probably a dandy idea though I doubt you can really escape the global system in any reliable way. 

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 07:15 | 5924491 Haager
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If there's a nuclear war with Russia and US involved the southern hemisphere is the one which will have less trouble with radioactive winds and rain, thanks to the intertropical conversance zone.

Nothing will help you if South get's involved, too 

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 07:19 | 5924500 overmedicatedun...
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I vote to allow US citiens to  bring guns into the congress, on one condition: they bring at least 348 rounds ..

some people just need killin.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 06:37 | 5924405 the tower
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There won't be a war, because the US cannot afford to have those stratigically placed nuclear suitcases to detonate. Can you imagine what the American people will think of their government when NYC, LA and most other major cities become a nuclear wasteland? This time war would hit home, and no-one wants that...

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 06:39 | 5924410 Kina
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USA totally lost the moral and ethical high ground when they stated...'you are either with us or against us'

Thereby revealing the true nature of how they see the world, allies and their position in the globe.

 

They made enemies of everybody with that statement.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 06:45 | 5924423 mwrobe1
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Yeah, as an American...I don't get this.  About the ONLY "reasons" for any intervention in that area seems to relate to the Biden/Kerry families nat gas interests (Burisma Holdings) and Monsanto's interest to exploit what is Europe's breadbasket.

I find it disgusting that the libs; who trumpeted the whole, "No war for oil" mantra; are getting a pass when "their" guys are in office.

This is "in your face" oligarchy...that they would threaten and provoke full scale war over this brand of politico-corporatism is downright shameful.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 09:23 | 5924863 Jonesy
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The Biden/Kerry nat gas interests are a small part of it, a reward to them for doing the bidding of Zionism and the Jews, destroying racially homogenous countries.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 06:55 | 5924439 eddiebe
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So this means gold sells off, right?

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 07:11 | 5924479 Fix It Again Timmy
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You don't allow five year olds to drive.  Congress should not be allowed to vote or initiate legislation until it grows up....

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 07:13 | 5924482 datura
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this is all just sabre-rattling.....if Ukraine gets its weapons, the rebels will get theirs as well. The real problem of Ukraine is that it has no soldiers, no man power. Who will operate those weapons then??? More than half a million Ukranian men fled to Russia to escape draft to the Ukrainian army. Funny, ha? Other thousands fled to Europe. Western Ukrainians voted with their feet and a great majority of them will NOT fight. That is the main reason, why the rebels won! So, the point is - unless NATO soldiers are sent there, the situation will be exactly the same. Ukraine needs more soldiers, not weapons. Watch out for the moment, when NATO soldiers are sent there - only this will start the real war. 

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:14 | 5925095 Monty Burns
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The Ukrainians are increasingly coming to realize that they're being played into being cannon fodder in a much larger game.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:05 | 5925600 Itchy and Scratchy
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Let's hope so for God's sake!

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 07:14 | 5924490 HowdyDoody
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News release embargoed until May 2015.

The eastern Ukrain militias would like to thank the US for supplying it with free weapons, admittedly slightly used, but hey, that's no biggy.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 07:25 | 5924512 Prober
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Russia Warns Lethal Aid Will "Explode The Whole Situation"

EXCEPT

for the THOUSANDS of russian troops & KGB/FSB agents and unlimited amount of weapons, ammunition and supplies that the ALWAYS lieing & cheating russian gangster invaders have been sending into Ukraine.

ONLY solution is to FLOOD ALL eastern European countries with ALL available weapons and kill all russian rats west of russian border.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 07:49 | 5924556 HowdyDoody
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Psycho in da house.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 08:36 | 5924696 Gavrikon
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No, just a NATO plant.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:50 | 5925273 Unix
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ROFLMAO, NATO plant, that is RICH I tell ya...what kind of plant are you Communist or Islamist?

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:49 | 5925269 Unix
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I didn't know you liked mirrors so much doody? Do you like yourself much? I bet your answer is full of pride...

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 08:37 | 5924698 Sandmann
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Ukraine has a huge tank factory in Kharkov making Soviet tanks. You make it sound as if there were no weapons in Ukraine before Porky started killing people in East Ukraine just as in 1941.......the place is awash with weapons. I bet you have more chance of buying an APC in the region than a Mercedes

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 09:09 | 5924814 Prober
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Yes, there were weapons in Ukraine before the russian gangster scum invaded, and then an endless supply of trrops, weapons, ammunition and supplies from russia -

BOTH are true.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:41 | 5925230 Unix
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Prober, you can't argue with the brainless deadbeats on this board, it's a waste of time really. I like to do it for the downarrows, it shows me how right I am,  and to piss them off, LOL.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 11:30 | 5925426 Prober
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We are in agreement and do it for the same reasons. When I discuss it with my successful self-made friends, all of whom wonder why I waste any of my precious time on these failures, I refer to it as "the pleasure of annoying the cockroaches living in the cracks and shadows".

All these losers have too little intelligence and too much brain rot from socialist dogma to be redeemable. When the 2nd revolution comes, we will have to do a lot of garbage collection.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 11:35 | 5925461 Unix
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I know man, the streets will be filled with these losers, but it will be a cakewalk, no worries here! Hang em high baby!

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:45 | 5925250 Max Steel
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lol ignorant murican give it up you know nothing . Continue with your trolling for nuland witch and name calling . Sore Looser .

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:48 | 5925264 Unix
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Max, Nuland is an idiot, just like Ozero, and I'm an American, do you generalize much? Get some education before making inane comments like that.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:08 | 5925589 Itchy and Scratchy
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Yeah ... your little sweetheart kinda blew her cover!

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:11 | 5925876 Unix
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Like I said, you cant read or comprehend, very sad state of affairs, when people cannot critically think. You are the poster child.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:39 | 5925224 Unix
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Prober, I see you have been down arrowed for your truth, but the Putie lovers here have no idea what that azzhat has in store for the world. Barak Ozero is the same.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 11:34 | 5925459 Prober
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The bolsheviks/soviets invented the perfect term to describe them = USEFUL IDIOTS. They are the internal rot that weakens resolve to fight for freedom and liberty, even more odious than those who invade from outside. All of them are failures and parasites. UGGHHHH !!!!

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:10 | 5925868 Unix
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Amen Brother! Time is running short, get prepared to deal with the vermin, they will come at you from all directions, just like on this site.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 07:48 | 5924553 q99x2
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Arrest those 348 for treason. Exile them to Somalia.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 11:54 | 5925547 HamRove
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House Sponsor of H. Res 162

Eliot L. Engel

2462 Rayburn House Office Building
(202) 225-2464

Give this A-hole a ring! 

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 07:58 | 5924575 Buster Cherry
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And just who are these 348 traitors?

Tyler, the list please.....I think a lot of Americans need to know who to lynch when the fist Russian nuke levels a US city

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 11:53 | 5925543 HamRove
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Please call this idiot who sponsoted the House Resolution. 

https://www.congress.gov/member/eliot-engel/E000179

Eliot L. Engel

2462 Rayburn House Office Building
(202) 225-2464

Give this A-hole a ring! 

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 08:03 | 5924584 Unix
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This stupid action will just give Putie the context to widen the "war", but you all can believe that he is your savior! This world is full of evil, and bad govts, pols, etc, just waiting to make you a true slave...or worse! We are slaves in a way right now, but most don't see it.

The LORD Jesus Christ is your only Salvation, do not put your trust in wordly things, as Lucifer runs the world.

When the day of reckonning comes, and it will, no one knows when, better hope you are on the right side of things.

Down arrow away Godless heathens, but it is the truth. I can't wait to see the replies, saying how bad religion is and how I am spreading hate. It will be the least amongst us that will post against me.

Pow...what do you have for me?

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 08:36 | 5924694 Gavrikon
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And of all the world leaders now, I see none, other than President Putin who believe in the Lord Jesus.

You are too fucking stupid to be a Christian.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:38 | 5925215 Unix
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bwahahahaha, so you like the ex-KGB guy huh, imagine that? You are a communist shill, go find your other brain cell, it fell out of your head.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:43 | 5925246 Max Steel
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Your butthole's leaking cunt.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:53 | 5925282 Unix
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Awww, is that all you got little person? You seem butthurt? Maybe mamma can fix it up for you? There there now, things will get worse for you soon enough.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 08:45 | 5924723 flapdoodle
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Perhaps you change your name from "Unix" to "Windows 8"...

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:11 | 5925085 Monty Burns
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F*cking brilliant!  Comment of the month without a doubt.  Splattered my keyboard.

Signed: Windows 8 Victim

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:36 | 5925204 Unix
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I would expect no less from an imbicile such as yourself.  You are a victim, splatter on fella. Watch cartoons much, roflmao.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:35 | 5925198 Unix
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LOL, windows is for losers such as yourself. You have an arguement or just ad hom attacks on people?

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 08:06 | 5924593 roadhazard
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The US does it all wrong. They should deny they are sending weapons just like Russia.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 08:35 | 5924692 Sandmann
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They do and they have.......100 Humvees captured in Debalstewo and mortrar tracking radar systems. The US and Canada have been shipping weapons for ages.......and what is this about stockpiling weapons in Norwegian mountain locations ?

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 08:41 | 5924704 roadhazard
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"mortar tracking radar systems' = lol, by the time you track it the mortar is no longer there. You can't get more mobile than a three man mortar team.    If true what a waste.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 08:07 | 5924596 vyeung
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demonstrates clearly that the US senate is a cabal outfit and only wants war! The world finally sees the Zionists for what it is, a criminal outfit.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 08:19 | 5924632 Unix
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LOL, I love you puppets who claim it is all Zionists, what are you a nazi skinhead? There are PLENTY of Gentiles involved here as well, get a grip on reality fella, you are devoid of logic when you make generalizations like that.

Zionism is nationalism for a Jewish state, no more, no less...get an education first, then a life!

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 08:33 | 5924682 Sandmann
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Yes but it seems to require the destruction of surrounding states and that is very similar to the man who wrote this......France desired that there should be no Power called Germany. Therefore there was a very essential difference. To-day we are not fighting for our position as a World-Power but only for the existence of our country, for national unity and the daily bread of our children.,...............If the German nation is to put an end to a state of things which threatens to wipe it off the map of Europe it must not fall into the errors of the pre-War period and make the whole world its enemy. But it must ascertain who is its most dangerous enemy so that it can concentrate all its forces in a struggle to beat him. And if, in order to carry through this struggle to victory, sacrifices should be made in other quarters, future generations will not condemn us for that. They will take account of the miseries and anxieties which led us to make such a bitter decision, and in the light of that consideration they will more clearly recognize the brilliancy of our success............

 


Wed, 03/25/2015 - 09:01 | 5924683 Gavrikon
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We come by the idea honestly.  

Jews run the press.  Jews push the homosexual agenda.  Jewish oligarchs have been prosecuted and want revenge.  Jews want more white flesh for the porn industry which they control.  Jews hate the idea of national borders and racial integreity.

It follows logically that Jews are pushing this war against Russian and President Putin.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:07 | 5925074 Monty Burns
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This is true but I can't understand the ongoing animosity towards Russia.  Via the oligarchs and the Harvard Mafia they've already made off with whatever wealth that unfortunate country may have had. Wouldn't you think they'd keep their heads down and enjoy their ill-gotten gains?

Seriously.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 11:56 | 5925559 Itchy and Scratchy
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The lust for power & greed knows no bounds!

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:31 | 5925173 Unix
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gavikron, you are an idiot, I bet you couldn't find Israel on the world map, cause if you could, you would see they have boarders. They just want to live, just like you do...get over your persecution complex k...

The ones who don't want boarders are the Barak Obama's of the world - Progressives - yes many are Jews, but there are many many others, you see it is a mixed bag of losers who want to destroy America that want open boarders, not just Jewish people. So keep on thinking in your narrow minded way, it wont turn out well for you.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:07 | 5925554 Itchy and Scratchy
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I'm trying to see which of those facts are wrong? I kinda thought all those things are a badge of honor for the tribe?

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 09:03 | 5924787 anachronism
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Zionism = Jewish supremacy over all others. Not just in Israel but in every country in North America and Western Europe. Everywhere else, Zionism = preferential treatment and exemptions for the Jews from cultural beliefs and civic responsibilities expected of the general populace.

That is the problem: Jews want to own the best and to control the rest. The process has unfolded exactly as Herzl predicted it would, and as Henry Ford and others tried to warn us that it would.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 09:26 | 5924885 Itchy and Scratchy
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Yepper ... those little twisted rascals are always at the center of conflict, strife & death in one way or another. They are at their absolutely most adorable when they start pointing their sanctimonious crooked finger at others and bleat out their pathetic 'persecution' chant!

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:23 | 5925135 Unix
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Is that right itchy one? So they were all about causing the holocaust? They were all about the 7 Arab nations declaring war on them? You are funny. Get an education before you spout your nonsense. There is so much you don't know.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:16 | 5925536 Itchy and Scratchy
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OMG here we go again! Time to trot out & replay the 'holocaust hysteria' for the 10 millionth time whether we need or want or should hear it again or not! And time for tribe member sympathizers to point their crooked moralist santimonious fingers at everyone else except themselves! That ship has sailed long ago my friend! The Hebes said they are more than willing to go it alone against all the forces of evil & should be allowed to! Then we will all FINALLY be able to see how 'goodness' prevails over 'evil' once and for all!

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:08 | 5925857 Unix
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Now there ya go again, you seem stuck on stupid, so I'll entertain you one more time. You are a generalist who has no idea of the world view and very little comprehension and debat abilities - your only weapon is to attack. Sad little humanoid you are, God Bless you and have a great day.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:21 | 5925126 Unix
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You are ignorant of the facts man, but you keep on generalizing and making false claims. You do realize 'ol Henry Ford supported the nazi's don't ya? LOL, pitiful how people who believe in nothing fall for everything.

There are good Jewish people and bad Jewish people, same for Muslims, Gentiles, etc.

You need to get out of the conspiracy books fella.

Zionism is for a Jewish state PERIOD.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 11:54 | 5925546 Itchy and Scratchy
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Keep on telling yourself that & before long you will start believeing it! 

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:06 | 5925844 Unix
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I see brainwashing worked well on you. Can read and really comprehend what I am saying, or is your hate for what I say that blinding?

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:01 | 5925032 Monty Burns
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Actually I don't think they want war as such. They just do what the people who control them want. Right now that happens to be a de facto declaration of war....

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 08:38 | 5924669 Gavrikon
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My dream is Porky, Nuland, Ratso, etc. hanging from nooses.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 08:34 | 5924685 chinaboy
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Frank Underwood's house.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 08:46 | 5924720 gcjohns1971
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You gotta ask how stupid your representatives are.

If you are going to give people weapons, you don't announce it.  You hide it behind 'Action Committees' and such.

While I feel bad for the Ukrainians, their overbearing neighbors are not really my problem.

And I don't really give a crap about the Eastern Politicians' ego-boosting status as major influence over Europe.

I understand that for Europe this is about control.  He who controls Europe's energy controls Europe.

West Europeans want to diversify, to limit other's power over them. But it is not my problem.

Russia wants what it has always wanted - to ride herd over the smaller Euro nations.  But it is not my problem.

I understand that the past 70 years of relative peace in Europe is UNPRECEDENTED in the last 3000 years.  And I understand that it was predicated on all the weapons being in the hands of people far away, not local to Europe.

But that is not my problem.

I don't want to put my children's lives between differing groups of Europeans to keep them from killing and enslaving each other.   I don't want my children standing guard on a European wall just because when European children stand on those walls, their leaders begin to use them for things other than defense.   I can look at history and say, "Yes that is so."

But it is not MY problem.

Frankly all these things in Europe are distractions from the problems HERE - like a government that has been overtaken by bankers  - and FOREIGN BANKERS AT THAT - over the last century; like pompous asshole politicians whose only personal commendation is the family and society to which they were born believing they can treat the rest of us as chattel;   Like the 'POLICY FOR SALE' sign that has been hanging outside DC and every Statehouse since the 1930's; and like all the wars, deployments, incursions, etc, they send soldiers for to keep that 'For Sale' sign swinging.

I don't believe in politician heroes.  Heroes don't become politicians.  And Politicians don't be come REAL heroes. 

They are just men and women whose vision of Utopia requires independently thinking men to be unthinking ants - an impossible self contradiction.  And they ALL fundamentally believe in rule by the sword as the only means to turn men into ants.

They are rapacious AT BEST, monsters at worst.

And I don't buy the acts they put on in speeches for cameras.  So no thank you, Putin.  No thank you Obama.  No thank you Cameron, Le Pen, Hollande, Merkel, and all the rest.  No thank you.

I do not need what you are selling.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 11:19 | 5925393 corsair
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I do not need what you are selling.

Although I have to admit you are one crafty salesman.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 08:52 | 5924746 Quinvarius
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Remember when Goldman said this was transient and they shorted a bunch of gold?  LOL.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 09:06 | 5924805 MR166
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It is way too late to do this now.   We should have honored our treaty to defend them at the first sign of aggression.  It is our display of weakness for 6 years that has created the opportunity for Russian aggression.

 

Let's see,  crumbling world economy, fighting on multiple world fronts and out of control religious leaders intent on world caliphate.  How close are we to WWIII?

 

 

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 09:29 | 5924897 Mike Honcho
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Closer than you are to a knowledged reality.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 09:52 | 5925000 Duc888
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MR166 " It is way too late to do this now.   We should have honored our treaty to defend them at the first sign of aggression.  It is our display of weakness for 6 years that has created the opportunity for Russian aggression."

 

 

Or maybe we should have honored the treaty we signed with USSR not to expand NATO (into Ukraine), you know the one we signed when Yeltzin was the head drunk there?

 


Wed, 03/25/2015 - 09:55 | 5925014 Monty Burns
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Touche!

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:01 | 5925039 Duc888
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.....not to mention Crimea was "Russian" since Catherine the Great.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:06 | 5925066 Itchy and Scratchy
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Stop confusing the socialists with facts!

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:26 | 5925140 MR166
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Thanks, I stand corrected.  The shame is that the Ukraine gave it's weapons over to the US and in return we pledged to defend them.

I really think that US Soviet relations hit the breaking point over Syria.  Putin pleaded with us not to destabilize the government there.

 

" A statement allegedly by Russian President Vladimir Putin made about U.S. President Obama has gone viral on the World Wide Web.  The statement was, "Negotiating with Obama is like playing chess with a pigeon. The pigeon knocks over all the pieces, shits on the board and then struts around like it won the game."
  

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:33 | 5925185 Itchy and Scratchy
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Awesum quote. No wonder why I'm warming up to that dude!

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 09:17 | 5924849 Jonesy
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I feel safe knowing Sheldon Adelson runs the US, no worries.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:00 | 5924903 Itchy and Scratchy
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Where are all the tree-hugging sanctimous morally superior peace loving anti-military anti-weaponry anti-NRA self serving liberal demorats when u need them? Perhaps those adorable social scientists are too busy solving 'climate change' or making fabulous plans for their homo-pride parades?

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 09:33 | 5924914 Mike Honcho
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Eliot Engel, a limp wristed peace is war democrud, I would like to spit some beechnut in his eye.

 

(Disclosure: I dont actually chew beechnut but would in this opportunity)

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:07 | 5925071 Itchy and Scratchy
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With any luck the nuclear enrichment program in Iran is ahead of schedule!

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 10:58 | 5925306 besnook
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i guess millenials don't mind maiming and killing a few more brown skinned girls and boys. they love this warmongering, psychotic .gov of theirs.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 11:59 | 5925505 Itchy and Scratchy
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Yeah but ya' better NOT put a finger on those cuddly little polar bears or their miniture puppy dogs or their will be hell to pay!

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 11:36 | 5925467 thecrud
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I would just give them Nukes. Like Russia did the materials to Iran and North Korea.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:08 | 5925609 dizzyfingers
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"Vote for no one" must be one of the choices on every ballot.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 14:29 | 5926236 juantrades
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