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Fed Now Sees Only 0.2% GDP Growth In Q1

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From almost 2.5% GDP growth expectations in February, The Atlanta Fed's GDPNow model has now collapsed its estimates of Q1 GDP growth to just 0.2% - plunging from +1.4% just 2 weeks ago. The reality of plunging capex and no decoupling is starting to rear its ugly head in the hard data and as the sun warms things up, weather will start to lose its ability to sway sentiment. While sell-side consensus has dropped (Goldman, Morgan Stanley, and Barclays all cut today following Durable goods), it remains unable to quite accept the reality of massively weaker than expected macro data evident everywhere (except in the soft-survey PMI data).

 

March 3rd... +1.2%

 

March 12th... cut in half to +0.6%

 

March 18th... another 50% cut in growth to a mere +0.3%

 

And now.. March 25th... Q1 GDP growth forecast drops to just +0.2%

 

On the bright side - at least he still has a job and hasn't been moved to more important things.

As The Atlanta Fed explains...

The GDPNow model forecast for real GDP growth (seasonally adjusted annual rate) in the first quarter of 2015 was 0.2 percent on March 25, down from 0.3 percent on March 17.

Following this morning's advance report on durable goods manufacturing from the U.S. Census Bureau, the nowcasts for real equipment investment and real inventory investment declined slightly.

 

And that decline is only getting started...

 

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Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:23 | 5925644 Creepy A. Cracker
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Cold out.  Can't order online when cold out.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:29 | 5925681 TrumpXVI
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MUST.....click.....on......"Buy" butt...tt.............nuh, nuh..........

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:56 | 5925807 KnuckleDragger-X
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No worries, by the time we get the Q3 reports these'll be the good old days.....

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:52 | 5926055 tarsubil
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They just have to manage the numbers a little. If Q1 is 0.1%, Q2 is -9.0%, and Q3 is 0.1%, voici, no recession.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:54 | 5926064 nuubee
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Oh, wow, 0.2%!! It's so great that we have all those immigrants flooding over the border to help us consume all this added production!!

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:23 | 5925646 piss pants
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Is there a black box on this flight?

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:28 | 5925677 Winston Churchill
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Prayer rugs.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:24 | 5925653 EHM
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Time to raise rates.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:37 | 5925709 negative rates
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Sure, you try to get out of the hole the Fed dug and then tell me there aint hell to pay.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:25 | 5925657 Osmium
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I would think that based on where the FED members head's usually are, the only thing they would be able to see is the descending colon.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:25 | 5925658 venturen
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wall street sees epic bonuses on more ZERO RATE MONEY! Market jumps!

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:25 | 5925661 observer007
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#4U9525 Germanwings

 

contradicting blackbox news

 

NYT: Investigators said they had so far been unable to retrieve any data from the plane’s cockpit voice recorder, and the inquiry has been hampered further, an official said, by the discovery that the second black box, which was found on Wednesday, was severely damaged, and its memory card dislodged and missing.

latetest:

http://tersee.com/#!q=germanwings&t=text

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:26 | 5925667 LawsofPhysics
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In an economic system that has fully adopted "mark to model" (i.e. mark to fantasy) accounting standards does any of this really matter?  Add to that the fact that credit/money creation has not required any real collateral since 1971 and the fact that the cost for money creation has been set at zero for 6+ years now (ZIRP)?

where the fuck does everyone think this is heading, or do we all believe that there really isn't any counterparty risk in the world today?

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:38 | 5925980 Gambit
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Agree with you 100%, in normal market the interest levels are directly correlated with risk.  The higher the risk the interest rates, i.e. risk dictates interest rates.  However in this fantasy world, finance practitioners have been duped into thinking that since rates are low then risk must be low as well, forgetting that it is risk that dictates interest rates and not interest rates that dictate risk.  Hence, the complacency, however when negative events start coming their way hot and heavy, as it is happening now, people start to slowly realize their mistakes and then BOOM! We are in the slow realization phase right now. The minor boom will happen in the next month or so and the real BOOM will happen in Sept/Oct. 

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:39 | 5925984 Gambit
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The higher the risk the higher the interest rates* 

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:56 | 5926072 LawsofPhysics
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Given the idiocracy of people and government I am betting that everything will simply be "awesome" right up to and including the day you go to the grocery store and the shelves are bare...

many eastern societies have been through this many times...

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:56 | 5926077 tarsubil
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Most people do not understand the basic truth that debt always involves risk. This is how Kyle Bass makes money. Finding places where the risk is much higher than the interest rate is placed. As he said, he wouldn't sell anything at 10 basis points.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:58 | 5926083 LawsofPhysics
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As many of us who used to short things learned, in the event of the "big one", good fucking luck to Mr. Bass trying to collect on those bets.  Let's be honest, that's all they are.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 14:00 | 5926095 tarsubil
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It helps if you are in the club. At least, that's what I've heard because I'm obviously not in it.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:41 | 5925997 viahj
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it simply proves that throughout the known universe, the hubris of humanity in association with it's stupidity is the highest seen, ever.  and if we are all that is out there...what an epic failure on God's part.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:28 | 5925669 Thirst Mutilator
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So this is the most importantest 'fabricated' number of all time... It's even more important than the last importantest 'fabricated' number & should therefore be trusted...

 

Somewhere ~ a 17 yo hedge fund manager is adjusting his clients portfolios accordingly...

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:27 | 5925673 Jonesy
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Nooo!!! Say it ain't so!  Jews say we're not getting the growth they printed?

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:28 | 5925674 stant
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They would get 0.0 outa me if I had my way

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:30 | 5925682 youngman
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This number comes into play before the elections...not now....

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:37 | 5925708 Winston Churchill
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I doubt they can fine tune that much, unless they turn off the algos.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:38 | 5925717 negative rates
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It's always before an election to a politician.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:35 | 5925702 A_Gobshite
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Time to start including hookers and blow

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:39 | 5925720 Dr. Engali
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Print moar bitchez! Works every time..... Lol

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:39 | 5925722 ThroxxOfVron
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"From almost 2.5% GDP growth expectations in February, The Atlanta Fed's GDPNow model has now collapsed its estimates of Q1 GDP growth to just 0.2%  "

RED HOT RECOVERY!!!   RAISE RATES NOW!!!

NOW!!! -BEFORE LABOR GETS ANY STUPID IDEAS ABOUT RAISES!!!

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:48 | 5926036 Never One Roach
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" Robust! "

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:40 | 5925733 I Write Code
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0.2 is less than the error band, even after revision.

And I assume is NOT adjusted for inflation, which is easily 0.2% per quarter.

So, REAL growth seems negative.

Of course, even that can be an artifact of cheaper oil, the oil revenues are already lower but the benefit to industrial consumers will take another quarter to make it through the system.  If that's right, look for an upside surprise next quarter.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:45 | 5925748 SeattleBruce
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I'm totally shocked by the Atlanta fed's unexpected revision!

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:51 | 5925785 Mike Honcho
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Just wait for the next one.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:51 | 5925786 polo007
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According to The Office of Financial Research (OFR):

http://financialresearch.gov/briefs/files/OFRbr-2015-02-quicksilver-markets.pdf

March 17, 2015

Quicksilver Markets

by Ted Berg

One of the missions of the Office of Financial Research is to analyze asset market valuations and if there are excesses, explore the potential financial stability ramifications of a sharp correction. The author argues that U.S. stock prices today appear high by historical standards. Although he notes that the financial stability implications of a market correction could be moderate due to limited liquidity transformation in equity markets, he addresses other financial stability issues that may be more relevant, such as leverage, compressed pricing of risk, interconnectedness, and complexity.

Option-implied volatility is quite low today, but markets can change rapidly and unpredictably, a phenomenondescribed here as “quicksilver markets.” The volatility spikes in late 2014 and early 2015 may foreshadow more turbulent times ahead. Although no one can predict the timing of market shocks, we can identify periods when asset prices appear abnor-mally high, and we can address the potential implications for financial stability.

The bull market achieved an important milestone in March: its six-year anniversary. From the market bottom in March 2009 through the end of 2014, U.S. equity prices tripled. This gain has been largely driven by the recovery in corporate earnings, which have increased by a similar magnitude over this period. Although the positive trend could continue, the upturn has persisted much longer and prices have risen much higher than most historical bull markets, despite a weaker-than-normal macroeconomic recovery (see Figure 1).

This bull market has also benefited from unusually low interest rates. Some argue that the market’s price-to-earnings (PE) ratio is justifiably higher than the historical average given that interest rates are at historic lows. After all, the intrinsic value of a stock is the present value of its discounted future cash flows. And interest rates are a key factor in determining the discount rate. The lower the discount rate, the higher a stock’s present value. However, the relationship between interest rates and stock prices is more complex; a lower interest rate environment may portend a lower long-term growth rate for corporate earnings and cash flows. When estimating intrinsic value, it is naïve to simply reduce the estimated discount rate without also considering the potential adverse consequences for the growth rate of cash flows.

Many expect the Federal Reserve to begin increasing short-term rates later this year. This will have important implications for stock prices if longer-term rates begin to increase as well. Under one scenario, a slow and gradual increase in long-term rates would be bullish, reflecting investors’ positive expectations for higher U.S. economic and corporate earnings growth. In an alternative scenario, however, interest rates would increase dramatically and unexpectedly, which would adversely affect stock prices.

In light of this interest rate backdrop, the question is whether stock prices have run too far ahead of fundamentals. Although certain traditional valuation metrics, such as the market’s forward PE ratio, do not appear alarmingly high relative to historical averages, other metrics to be discussed — the cyclically adjusted PE ratio (“CAPE”), the Q-ratio, and the Buffett Indicator — are nearing extreme levels, defined as two standard deviations (or two-sigma) above historical means.1

Historically, periods of extreme valuations are eventually followed by large market price declines, some of which have contributed to systemic crises. On the other hand, extreme valuations have been known to persist for extended periods. For example, in a December 1996 speech, former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan famously used the phrase “irrational exuberance” to describe investor enthusiasm for stocks. At that time, the forward PE ratio — the ratio of the market price to analysts’ consensus earnings forecasts for the next 12 months — was approximately 16 times. Although this was above the historical average, it was not alarmingly high. However, the CAPE ratio was much higher at 28 times. The S&P 500 more than doubled over the next three years, with valuations reaching all-time highs in March 2000, driven by the boom in technology stocks. The tech bubble eventually burst; the S&P 500 index decreased almost 50 percent and the tech-heavy Nasdaq index dropped nearly 80 percent from peak to trough.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:25 | 5925880 LawsofPhysics
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LOL!!  Intesting, tell me, historically speaking what does the total debt outstanding look like again?

What percentage of the GDP is now simply bullshit paper pushing?

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 12:57 | 5925812 ComplexCat
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MUST BE BULLISH

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:06 | 5925846 Atomizer
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Replenishing stock buy back programs until it no longer works. Weasel a few more idiots before the bear market returns. 

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:17 | 5925892 db51
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You'll never see another Bear Market.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 14:48 | 5926307 SeattleBruce
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...before the collapse anyhow...

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:07 | 5925853 lasvegaspersona
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This market don't need no stinkin' data.

GPD is for losers. Onward! Forward! To Zimbabwe heights!

....wadda ya mean down a percentage...fix dat glitch...

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:07 | 5925854 lasvegaspersona
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This market don't need no stinkin' data.

GPD is for losers. Onward! Forward! To Zimbabwe heights!

....wadda ya mean down a percentage...fix dat glitch...

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:16 | 5925890 db51
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If only we had lower interest rates.   Oh Wait...a squirrel......Can't wait till they pay us to take out a loan.....already making us pay to keep our money.     Everything is Awesome Bitchez!

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:24 | 5925910 orangegeek
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0.2% reported....and we all know it means much much worse

 

 

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:24 | 5925912 steelrules
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Two tenths is a rounding error.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:30 | 5925940 Bumbu Sauce
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Hope and change!

Ready for Hitlery!

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:43 | 5925994 crisrose
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Since that's annualized actual forecast for the quarter is 0.05%

Where do they get these numbers???

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:46 | 5926019 bobbydelgreco
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recession in us since new years well known among the cognoscenti hope it's not to big a word for you zhers touches on 2 points first most zh stuff is stupid 2nd so why do i read zh because main stream media has reported remarkble growth during this recession

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 13:50 | 5926044 miker
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.2 % GDP Growth really  means signficant contraction.

 

SNAP DEPRESSION in 2015 mid-year.  People finally figured it out.  Demand collapsing.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 14:00 | 5926094 22winmag
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"GDP" and "The Rule of Law".

 

Made up and redefined on the regular.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 14:00 | 5926100 Goldbugger
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The DOW should go up 1000 points when the news hits.

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 14:07 | 5926133 B2u
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Not to worry....BTFD....

Wed, 03/25/2015 - 14:07 | 5926134 JRobby
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Only 0.2% GDP Growth In Q1, Remainder of 2015 FLAT
Wed, 03/25/2015 - 17:17 | 5926919 sTls7
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The Federal Reserve has given the US the royal screw.

Tue, 03/31/2015 - 01:09 | 5944590 Youri Carma
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The Inconvenient Truth: Even after 7 years The US and Europe never left the Depression and in fact are now back into a Recession!

This also brought down the economy in China and the other Asian producing countries after which, the countries that produce raw materials like Australia and Canada got affected.

And with the downfall of China’s producing power house the economy came down and that rounds the circle so now what next? …

Don’t even think of the Q-word. Oh No … here we go again ... shouldn’t have mentioned it WHERE’S THERE A CRASH? WORLD ECONOMY COLLAPSING!!! - HEADLINES MARCH 2015

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