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It's The End Of March And 99.85% Of California Is Abnormally Dry Already
With NASA scientists warning about California only having one year of water left, it appears The Kardashians and March Madness continue to distract Americans from the ugly looming reality of water shortages. With summer around the corner, the US Drought Minitoring service reports today that a stunning 99.85% of California is "abnormally dry," and 98.11% of the state is in drought conditions leaving over 37 million people in harm's way.
Right now the state has only about one year of water supply left in its reservoirs, and our strategic backup supply, groundwater, is rapidly disappearing. California has no contingency plan for a persistent drought like this one (let alone a 20-plus-year mega-drought), except, apparently, staying in emergency mode and praying for rain.
In short, we have no paddle to navigate this crisis.
Several steps need be taken right now.
First, immediate mandatory water rationing should be authorized across all of the state's water sectors, from domestic and municipal through agricultural and industrial. The Metropolitan Water District of Southern California is already considering water rationing by the summer unless conditions improve. There is no need for the rest of the state to hesitate. The public is ready. A recent Field Poll showed that 94% of Californians surveyed believe that the drought is serious, and that one-third support mandatory rationing.
Second, the implementation of the Sustainable Groundwater Management Act of 2014 should be accelerated. The law requires the formation of numerous, regional groundwater sustainability agencies by 2017. Then each agency must adopt a plan by 2022 and “achieve sustainability” 20 years after that. At that pace, it will be nearly 30 years before we even know what is working. By then, there may be no groundwater left to sustain.
Third, the state needs a task force of thought leaders that starts, right now, brainstorming to lay the groundwork for long-term water management strategies. Although several state task forces have been formed in response to the drought, none is focused on solving the long-term needs of a drought-prone, perennially water-stressed California.
Our state's water management is complex, but the technology and expertise exist to handle this harrowing future. It will require major changes in policy and infrastructure that could take decades to identify and act upon. Today, not tomorrow, is the time to begin.
Finally, the public must take ownership of this issue. This crisis belongs to all of us — not just to a handful of decision-makers. Water is our most important, commonly owned resource, but the public remains detached from discussions and decisions.
This process works just fine when water is in abundance. In times of crisis, however, we must demand that planning for California's water security be an honest, transparent and forward-looking process. Most important, we must make sure that there is in fact a plan.
Call me old-fashioned, but I'd like to live in a state that has a paddle so that it might also still have a creek.
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Bear Grylls drinks his piss when he can't find any water..
I relish the thought of Chumbz aka Chumbawamba doing that and the good for nothing Governor Brown.
"Bear Grylls drinks his piss when he can't find any water..." followed by "Welcome to California"
would make a great billboard sign.
Abnormally dry?
That's why they make Astroglide. Or spit in a pinch.
pods
Well, big government lovers are setting up task forces and sustainability agencies, so that ought to help with the water issue. I know when I have issues in my personal or professional life that I always gather together groups of unelected bureaucrats and that generally fixes the problem right away.
Maybe if they would simply allow people to store rain water in cisterns as has been done for thousands of years...
Naw. No kleptocrat would ever allow that.
Why is the National Auronautical and Space Administration now into weather? What does NOAA think of this? Also thta 1 year of water was headline click bait. Here's the LA Times taking it back: "A previous version of this article's headline left the impression that California has only one year of water left. As the article indicates, the state has one year of water stored in its reservoirs."
My wife took a picture for me $15 watermelon. Guess I picked the wrong time of year to take a fruit salad give up alcohol
I lived in LA for 3 years.
The quicker the whole state dries up and ceases to exist this better.
The future of much of Socal:
http://laist.com/2011/11/04/road_trip_photos_from_the_abandoned.php#phot...
Unfortunately, LA has 6 million acre-feet of stored water. Stole it from the Owens Valley and Northern Calif. It will neve dry up as long as it controls the state legislature because of all those illegal alien voters.
i'm not a yoga expert, but is there a kiss your ass goodby pose?
blue horseshoe likes brawndo.
" it's got what plants like!"
Simple really. We need more pilots like Andreas Günter manning the
Tanker/Diagonal Flyers controls, that pepper the skies with pixie dust.
We could get a 2fer and lose that brainless, rapist, AiLean Gore in the same stroke. Babbling Idiot.
#1 Goal
Create a completely undesirable environment(drought/radiation) on the west coast to drive the concentration of population to the East. A concentrated population is more easily controlled. Harriet Reid then gives the land to the solar corporations for a small fee, etc. etc.
I would as well keep a close eye on the ghost cities in China. Concentrated/reduced populations are coming globally IMO.
yup, surprises me how little is known (by people) about capabilities of the elites to control nature. and zh COULD talk about the coming food inflation costs and the effect removing california as a source of so much of the food. glad no nuts have the power to cause that !
Fourth...
Move out of the desert and into a more habitable climate. It's a lot cheaper, too.
DUMBs for the elites...
scorched surface, radiated, emp'ed, zombie-infested for the rest...
and the Georgia Guidestones are for fun, no?
One more "reason" for CA tax INCREASES!!! Enjoy it, bankrupt, fruit and nuts, CA. Normal, thinking, people: Flee while you can.
more beavers.
http://www.unexpectedwildliferefuge.org/Waterways.htm
Send the CA folk to OK. OK?
Nice water park. Looks like that lawsuit helped to put it under.
http://www.metnews.com/articles/2004/maso041204.htm
That is part of the problem in this country, too many lawsuits and lawyers and not enough engineers with all those jobs outsourced to China. This country is turning into the biggest pile of shit real fast.
we do not give a fucking fuck to caly, give info about yemen
It's becoming more and more clear that Stephen King was actually writing about the future of California in "The Dark Tower" series.
I'm sure the high speed rail can be converted to water trains from Mexico.
Reservoirs monumentally concieved, by the very best minds of central planning departments everywhere, are going dry.
Who could have not seen this coming?
Hey quit peeing on my lettuce
It is amazing, using what has always been in short supply (water) to give the appearance of plenty. I guess the locally fined & otherwise penalized general population should be thankful that Central Planning 101 and the associated cronies are not in the cranberry business.
Not yet, anyways ;-)
Who could have seen this coming? The 2nd director of the USGS: John Wesley Powell.
Yeah, pee on my compost pile instead.
We need a ballot initiative in California to cancel the bullet train and instead build a water pipeline from the Columbia River. After all, we do not need two high-speed trains, if any, and Elon Musk is already busy with his vacuum tube version (expected to cost a 10th or less of another Caltrans-built debaucle). I am sure that Oregonians would much prefer allowing us to build a pipeline through their state rather than have a huge number of Californians moving up north to their neck of the woods it the rain does not start next fall/winter.
"Your Dreaming" girl!!!!
The PNW will take up arms and kill everyone from CA before they let you drain the Columbia, are you insane??? Better get on to plan B in a hurry, if thats what your praying for!!!
Does the PNW like vegetables and fruit? Ya, then maybe they better share their water.
Brewster's Berg #1. Think about all those thirsty Mojave Desert farmers!!!!
More than positive that the PNW could build green houses and surpass CA productivity. Especially with the lower fuel costs.
Hope you all like cesium and plutonium in your drinking water, that Columbia River flushes the Hanford Nuclear Site.
"Your Dreaming" girl!!!!
Yes. I know. Common sense is not so common in California. Otherwise they would have build more reservoirs when it was pouring rain and Sugar Bowl was accumulating in excess of 20 feet of snow per year.
I remember one year when I went skiing at the beginning of July and it snowed on our drive over Donner Summit.
So.....
Who got eaten on that drive?
"I am sure that Oregonians would much prefer allowing us to build a pipeline through their state rather than have a huge number of Californians moving up north to their neck of the woods...."
We wouldn't mind so much if ODFW would get off of their fat arses and allow reasonable bag limits- maybe something like 5 per day
plus bonus points redeemable towards an extra deer or elk tag in exchange for every 25 confirmed kills.
Why do you think Oregon is so green?
We bury Californians at the base of every tree...
I'm in the PNW. Need water? I'll flush real hard.
Keep your fucking hands off our water, and, yes, I will be shooting if you try it.
"Maybe if they would simply allow people to store rain water in cisterns as has been done for thousands of years..."
It hasn't really rained in California for 4 years. I'm pretty sure cisterns need rainwater to store, but never having had one, I wouldn't really know.
It rained here, (in SoCal), nicely twice this last winter, Some friends I know pulled 1500 gallons (6 IBC totes), of water off the roof of a 1200 sq. ft. home. Should be enough to run his outdoor aquaponics grow beds for the year.
You're stealing it from the indigenous plants! Stop it! You're creating a rain desert for much needed water!
That's just plain bullshit.
The problem this year was not rain, it was snow. We got a typical years worth of rain in the valleys, but it's also been rain in the mountains, so even when it does snow, the rain moves in and melts it. It was horrible last year, no grass on the hills in Febuary is almost unheard of here.
#41
exactly, this problem goes all the way up the west coast. Have never seen the Cascade and Olympic range this snowless in my life. BUT, unlike California, we get even more rain and the groundwater is plentiful.
The answers (as other have mentioned) are simple common sense:
1. do not grow all of the nations food in a desert on the false notion that the aquifers will last forever
2. do not overpopulate a desert along with lawns, swimming pools, valley girls and golf courses
3. do plant native plants that can actually survive native conditions
4. do revert back to agricultural principles that have always worked like farm ponds, swales and native plants
5. diversify your edible plants and grow them all over the nation not in one dry place.
6. Watch Geoff Lawton's Greening the Desert
7. Then watch Chinatown
8. Read Cadillac Desert by Marc Reisner
Daveyjones, it's sad to say even the native plants are succumbing. I've lost a good 1/3 of my manzanita that for fifteen years looked fine. We never watered any native plants on my property until I relented a gave a little to a few I thought were possibly recoverable. Some have come back barely but today it was 92 degrees. They will never make it through another summer like we had last year. Weeks of 100+ degrees. I think it is time to face reality and let nature take its course.
I don't know what will happen but I can assure you everyone I encounter doesn't seem the least perturbed. I'm scared shitless. Once again, they smile at me and pat me on the head. " Don't worry, be Happy" seems the mantra. I need to fly out of this cuckoo nest.
Miffed
You cou could always move up to northern California where its relatively wet year round amongst the beautiful redwoods. Get a job at HSU, or grow tons of weed.
Hey just a thought. But it is wonderful in humboldt county.
Time for some pimpin' of seed peddlers:
http://nativeseeds.org/
http://www.plantsofthesouthwest.com/
One of the brick'n'mortar stores of the second link is near me. I've always found them to be wonderful to deal with. I've purchased many seeds from the first link and have never had a problem. If you want corn in a desert, you're going to have to water it or grow it where the water table is within reach of its roots, but if you sift through their selection, they have plants and seeds that grow in places dryer than California. Some crops are just going to require water, but you can find cultivars that require less water than typical cultivars at those links.
Tx, we are fortunate our well is still good but it is 400 ft and rainwater fed. I'm assuming our septic does recycle some but at a certain point we're fucked. 5 years ago when the well pump gave out it cost $400 for a month of water. I'm assuming it's more expensive now.
Our garden is growing gang busters now in this heat. We're a month ahead. Can't imagine our lettuce bolting in May. Thanks for the links.
Miffed
Try some of the sonoran tepary beans, and then don't come and hunt me down when it it time to shell them. They are dry beans, and if you ask me if they are bush beans of pole beans, I am going to say "yes." If you water them once ever 2-6 weeks, they'll overproduce. I would not be surprised to see 200-300 pods on a single plant if you get it right. Those are dry farmed in the Sonoran desert. While they have learned to take advantage of every drop of water, and probably know how to turn 2" into 10" of rain, we don't know dry when it comes to the sonora.
The drought moved from here to California. Back when it was here, one guy was out plinking at prairie dogs and the muzzle flash from his rifle set the vegetation on fire. He just stamped the fire out, went home and cracked a beer. Hell, 2 years ago, we went from triple digit heat in June with relative humidities in the single digits to what was dubbed the 'Burquecane in August. Hurricane force winds and 2.5" of rain in well under an hour. That shit passed right over me, and it flooded the main road near my house. I got to go watch small cars try to drive through it and hydrolock their engines. I went from dryer than hell to having fucking bullfrogs croaking in my back yard in just a few hours. The situation has improved since then, and I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this isn't a couple of wet-ish years peppered in a megadrought.
You underestimate our county governments...A lot of folks are storing water in the winter (Northern Cal) when it is (relatively) abundant, and using it, (or in one special project, releasing it back into the creeks during low flows to keep the salmon running - this project is working ) in the summer.
So of course the county is considering taxing the cisterns (in present day, usually above-ground plastic tanks of 5000 gallons plus). Right, tax water conservation, THAT"s the ticket...
You can't make this shit up.
At least in California they are not arresting people for storing water yet (like in Oregon), though that may come. http://www.naturalnews.com/046359_oregon_rainwater_collection_big_govern...
But I did just get notification that our water rates are going up 22% next year.
If you actually research this article you'll find that the guy created numerous runoffs that threatened to flood the center of town. There's two sides to every story.
Okay. Point taken.
How those golf courses in Palm Springs doing? Ya think they'll have to give up their water?
I think they should. Brown golf courses with dry "water" hazards. And maybe no swimming pools this summer.
~"Maybe if they would simply allow people to store rain water in cisterns as has been done for thousands of years..."~
You'd think that the politicos would be all over rain catchment out here, but so far not a fucking peep. Probably due to the fact that they can't tax you on it, don't want you to move in any way off their water grid and they think that you, by harvesting what little rain falls on your roof, are "stealing from the watertable", (which they would have you think they own).
Actually I expect the very opposite to occur. I anticipate they will BAN rain catchment here in the next year. In the interim look for entrepreneurs to start selling systems to folks just too stuck in their ways to part with that "fescue look".
I expect the poor to be offered free poisoned bottled water. why not? almost all the beer has been changed to high fructose corn syrup and beer drinkers dont care. easy peasy to get stuff in peoples mouths. oh well, VERY hard to get family members to care about what they eat !! really, is a bummer.
Here's a novel idea - be prepared to face an occasional drought when you build enormous population centers in... deserts.
Look at where California - especially southern California sits - smack in some of the driest areas of the country, if not the world.
Hard to believe Death Valley is located in southeastern California ain't it?
Obviously global warming ;-)
Northern Ca hasn't been a desert in centuries. Should we ignore some of the most fertile farmland in the world because at some point in history it was dry? Maybe everyone should evacuate Vancouver because at one time it was covered by glaciers.
@in4mayshun ...You must be young because that is the dumbest "logic" I've seen recently.
Vancouver is not imminent danger from glaciers. Glaciers are retreating, and have been.
Northern California is in imminent danger of becoming a desert...just because it hasn't been desert in the last 2-300 years means shit-all. It's going dry now.
Start collecting rainwater? Oh wait, that's illegal in most places.
And get this...its fucking illegal to dump poisonous chemicals in the nearby creek. Can you believe it?
Understand that the fuckwads that get arrested for collecting rain water are usually doing so in a manner that causes harm to their neighbors either by risking floods or by unduly depleting the water table for the local public water system.
Aren't the ones doing the rainwater collecting actually taking some of the load off "the public water system" by removing themselves from it? And what the hell are you talking about anyways, you saying people are using bulldozers & backhoes to create ditches into their swimming pools or what?
I'm going long silt fence and hay bales ;-)
again - if you actually research the instances of folks that get arrested for 'collecting rainwater' - you will find that what they are doing is beyond just 'collecting rainwater'.
let me ask a question - is creating a runoff that causes floods your neighbors' yards or basements 'neighborly' and 'moral' behavior? i'm against the gov't being in my business as much as the next guy...but when nut jobs decide they're going to take it upon themselves to do shit that causes me or my property physical harm then fuck yeah there should be some consequences. if i start dumping toxic chemicals on my yard - is that OK? hey maybe your kids will play in those chemicals. and according to everyone that downvoted me i should say - hey fuck your fucking kids - keep them off my property.
i did a lot of research about that ONE guy that got into arrested in Oregon. he was a fucking nutjob and he wasn't just 'collecting rainwater' for personal use.
it's really easy to get on ZH and say - 'people are getting arrested for collecting rainwater'...based on nothing more than reading a headline or a 'news article' from some internet 'blog' that is nothing more than an opinion piece with little facts - and what little facts are presented are slanted towards the opinion that EVERYTHING the local gov't did was evil and conveniently leaves out most, if not all, of the damning facts against the person who was arrested or got into trouble with their local gov't.
but yeah...let's all play armchair revolutionaries and think we all know what's going on while making comments and posting based on nothing more than reading a head line. when I get around to it - I'll find the links for this douchebag in Oregon that got arrested and you can all decide.
Exhibit A for mind everyone else's business. The water table does, however, appreciate your concern.
yep - mind your business. i have some motor oil i want to get rid of...let me know where you live so i can dump it near your property. not on it, mind you. just nearby. you cool with that?
Haven't you heard but oil and water don't mix. They're not the same thing, but as you're a genius telling us all what we must do, you already knew that.
really? thanks! let me get this straight - if said oil seeps into your well it won't get sucked up by your faucet? i did not know that. you, my friend, are the genius, not me.
The subject was rain water collection, not oil spills. But many thanks indeed for conflating the two. It just reveals the lazy and dangerous infatuation that a troubling number of people have with government force. Regulate rainwater, or off with your heads! So you're saying that since a person collecting rainwater is indistinguishable from Joe Hazelwood, that new regs are needed before us peons run amok. Common tort law will never be able to handle the literal deluge? Got it now, thanks. Like I said, Exhibit A.
They will get you wherever you are. I pay a monthly fine for runoff based on the sq ft of ground my house covers. I have to pay not to collect rainwater.
And start rolling heads over the geoengineering...
www.aircrap.org
Dry it up and buy it up.
dr. rich...that is perfect
'But that's agriculture and swimming pools in a desert state.'
Why not? Look, so big reservoirs!
'But it doesn't rain enough, they will be depleted.'
Bah, until then our profits have been made already!
Yeah, god market is the best problem solver to avoid damage for future generations and those nasty regulations only steal our freedom...
/s
It's not a pool, it's a reservoir for fire fighting.
skeeter habitat
Actually, they do have a plan: raise taxes and increase regulations to force people to leave the state in droves. And the plan is working! The replacement illegal mexicans don't need nearly as much water to survive (hey they come from a land renown for drought) and they can still pick any fruit and veggies that can survive.
Its really hot in Socal today. Like summer and really dry. The beach is nice, but you cannot drink the water yet.
I relish the thought of Chumbz aka Chumbawamba doing that and the good for nothing Governor Brown.
lol
Chumblz
Rationing always fixes shit. Amazing plan!
One has to wonder why areas of the US, with chronic water shortages, have had growth, growth, and more growth are now struggling with, well, limited resources. They should segue in the part about Lake Meads intake which is getting ever closer to the elevation of the lake surface. And then we got the CO river wars.
I feel sorry for all the states that are going to absorb these waves of dead beat liberals when they bail out of the California dream ... it will be like a wave of locusts ... coming for your social services and tax revenues.
Regards,
Cooter
The large government lovers will make their way to the "floyover states" and the Great Lakes and I bet they would find a way to turn that into a desert.
"...have had growth, growth, and more growth are now struggling with, well, limited resources. "
They had growth, growth, growth precisely because they let the "free-market" develop, develop, develop.
Exactly the opposite of what the liberals wanted. Go figure...
California has a free-market? Where?
Free market? We kinda sorta had a freeish market 30 years ago, but not really. But we had growth, and when that growth stopped in such a way that it wasn't a hiccup but rather a shot to the nuts followed up with a gun to the head, the kinda less sorta freeish markets, but not really, went *poof* and disappeared. But we had growth, and now that the growth has stopped and we don't have a good way to start it up again, we're fucked. We're just waiting for the trigger to be pulled.
I guess it's a good thing you put "free-market" in scare quotes.
I feel lucky that when I left California, I picked a state that they all laugh at and will likely never go to.
Plenty of water, beautiful mountains, low cost of living, good schools, beach a few hours away.
Problem is it's a red state and REDNECKS live there. I love my red necked brethern.
Rednecks are great people if they got gumption and/or good family (i.e. manners, traditions, etc). It is the bad families/idiots you gotta watch out for. Cuts both ways!
Regards,
Cooter
My understanding is a significant portion of the city of San Francisco do that on a regular basis already.
No, they don't drink it, they just (golden) shower in it. But for the right money I hear you can get that just about anywhere.
Reality: They will take what they need from the Pacific Northwest, and then charge us for taking it. Just like they do with Electricity. I love paying those high electric bills....
Or do you prefer that a large number of Californians move up to the Pacific West if rain does not come next winter? Many are already thinking about it.
Sorry, Bear Grylls drinks piss (if it was even real) for entertainment purposes, real survivalists know the net effect of this is more dehydration.
"Bear Grylls drinks his piss when he can't find any water.."
That's because he's high society and his piss tastes of a fine single malt whiskey.
And some people don't even wait that long.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LBOZH_j_sI
I guess with all our human smarts, we just weren't smart enough to avoid the same relationship to resources that leads to a die off in brewing yeast.
Yeast are selfish little bastards.
"Hey you, thats MY sugar! Om nom nom."
If only Californians were as useful ...
Regards,
Cooter
If you think a population collapse will be limited to CA you're wrong. He was referring to the species as a whole and our "sugar" is crude oil.
I like to tell people, "My grandparents were born with outhouses and died with flushing shitters. I was born with a flushing shitter and will die with an outhouse."
They either get it or don't.
Regards,
Cooter
My grandfather rode a camel, my father rode a camel, I drive a Mercedes, my son drives a Land Rover, his son will drive a Land Rover, but his son will ride a camel.
Quoted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashid_bin_Saeed_Al_Maktoum
Hell Cooter, I started with an outhouse through the 8th grade, went back to one when I moved back to the land 40 years ago, and now have a flusher. Eventually, through the leach field, the water goes back to the creek clean.
Most folks I know out in the sticks had "stinklers" which used the septic water (after it had cycled through several tanks and more or less purified) to irrigate their lawns/gardens.
I was making a general reference to standard of living/prosperity for which most people, due to when they are born, are not prepared to adjust.
How many toilet flushes happen in LA every day? Heat wave? Drought? No water?
<KoolaidMan>OH YEAH!</KoolaidMan>
Regards,
Cooter
I'm not doing my "It's a fucking desert!" rant again. I think you've all heard it by now.
If the rest of you fuckers would grow your own food us Californians would have enough water. And quit botching about socialist CA when we get back less in federal taxes than we pay :-)
California gets it unfair share of FED money with all those fake stratup companies that will soon implode...and lets not forget the NSA branches known Google and Apple, etc
Please....you get back less..that is rich
Wall Street says the same thing
I ALWAYS trust what Wall Street says. You Betcha..We could spin this a million ways. How many people does Apple employ in California compared to China and other countries and states. Pumped up stock market valuations benefit only California??
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The problem isn't so much the farming. That's an excellent use of fertile land. The problem is building giant cities in a desert, like Las Vegas and LA, and many others, and growing them at an unsustainable rate, with millions of entitled people who can't even take care of themselves dependent on water being pulled from other areas and brought to them at below market prices. As another poster said, they will end up pulling the water from the pacific NW, making their rates go up
CA Residential Water use: 15%
Industrial and Agriculture: 85%
And it's mostly agriculture. Mostly...
CA Residential Water use: 15%
Industrial and Agriculture: 85%
And it's mostly agriculture. Mostly...
Perhaps if local and other government agencies did not make it a crime to grow one's own food.....
http://www.takepart.com/article/2012/07/19/war-home-gardens
http://www.activistpost.com/2012/11/fl-man-refuses-city-order-to-destroy...
http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/4-year-old-girls-vegetable-garden...
http://www.naturalnews.com/030799_food_freedom_Wickard_vs_Filburn.html
they will have to pry my garden spade out of my cold dead hands
Hey Nihlist, the FOX NEWS Parotts ain't going to like what you said. Although it is amusing to observe their head in the sand, Hannity spin and sound bites.
They are to busy getting agricultural subsidies not to grow food. Gives em way to much time to allow themselves to be brainwashed by Rush an FOX
Tell that to all the farmers in the San Joaquin Valley who are now on food stamps because the ecoterrorists had to protect the Delta Smelt, a BAIT FISH, from "extinction."
I got it ! Let's build a $100B bullet train to nowhere !!!!!!!!!
After Russia conquers us Putin is building a bullet train from London to New York.
Let the FED print $12 trln and build the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_tunnel
$12 trillion is the government budget. So triple or quadruple it and we'll have the costs. Also what a fucking crazy idea...
No, it has a destination: TO WATER, fast.
Could we hire the Japs to build a 250' high wall around it for us? I don't want all those libs escaping and infecting the rest of the country any worse than it already is.
If the drought persists, that is going to be the legacy and I am not sure people though this trough. Even without the drought, I think it is the longer term outcome anyway. The south west has a limited supply of water and can't support populations even at current levels.
So, if one is a social services monkey in California and it gets bad enough, one will do some homework (for once) and find the next best place to move ... based on SOCIAL SERVICES!
Regards,
Cooter
EDIT: Holy crap, I said south east instead of south west! Dur!
"I don't want all those libs escaping and infecting the rest of the country any worse than it already is."
This implies a fundamental misunderstanding of Californians that the rest of the country has. The vast majority of California (geographically) is conservative. It's just not the part where the big population is. The part that is up against the Pacific, with the exception of Orange County is most liberal and also most densely populated. Those people tend to be more affluent, better educated, and less likely to leave.
It's the less well-off, less educated inlanders who are most apt to leave for greener pastures. They identify with the the heartland and the south. They are the people who think like you do - you should be welcoming them with open arms.
And since when is San Diego County "liberal"?
It may be militant as the it is the headquarters of the US Pacific Fleet and has two large US Marine bases.
But you will find that it is not liberal.
SD is very liberal. I was there for 5 years. If you travel off the base, a high and tight will get sneers in every direction. At least downtown and the the beach areas. But high and tights are for ate up robots who are yes men and think drones are cool. They get off playing call of duty all day and think killing someone non-american makes you a man.
Though the libs there are mostly dreamers. It is pop culture to judge severly in that whoever doesn't think like you is an total idiot. But they are purely idealistic. All their weed consumption may actually make them good farmers....if they had rain ahahah!
It's not about Liberals mate, it's Progressives. Progressives are authoritarian. They can be left or right in your false paradigm. It's not about left or right, it's about libertarian or auhoritarian.
Progressive are snooty but not fully authoritarian. They do like to tell old fashioned ppl how to behave and what to believe, but they are also against major corporations, and war.
Major difference between progressives and libertarians: 1. guns. 2. Progs think corps are the problem. Libertarians think gov is the prob. If gov. would do their job with honor and respect for the citizens instead of allowing corps to be greedy, then corps wouldn't be the damn problem. Gov should be able to control corps, corps shouldn't be able to control gov.
Sorry, but no. Progressive theory is that through force of action of government, the world can be improved. You post here just proves it true.
That is literally your ideology. That is authoritarian. There is no common ground between progressives and libertarians. Libertarians do not think government is the problem. We see the initiation of force and disregard for individual rights is the problem.
This is what I mean, you guys don't even know what libertariansim is, but you think you can tell us what we actually think.
You're a bunch of violent goons.
Oh, so the conservative, land owning, farming, take care of themselves Californians are the ones that are going to pack and leave?
Nope!
You assholes are going to give us the clap!
Regards,
Cooter
Wait What has taken the precaution of building a small, portable desalination plant w/ an attached 55 gal cistern he can load on his truck, just in case.
he recommends you do the same.
similar to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7VaJoXDNmY
It can be done much simpler.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azukd_I0P9c
The problem is humping that unit over the corpses of 10s of thousands of dead sea lions and other ocean former life forms to get to the water while monitoring your radiation detector the whole time.
I still have my condo for sale in Denver...I hope we get a flood...no pun entented of Californians running to Colorado as we have water...a good snow year here..above normal...and we do not have much inventory of homes for sale...mine is a unique unit...so I might find an idiot to buy it finally
I think you already did, and it was you.
YES.... have always been on the side of the bell curve..way outside....
Have a condo in Denver with water and a home in Calif. w/o water. Seems you got things kinda ass backwards unless you plan to shower etc with cokes?? I've lived in both places. You are badly deluded. I'd take Denver over L.A. or S.F. in a heartbeat. Milestones
Colorado is getting loaded with the progressive unfortunately though.
Don't Californicate Colorado--oh, sorry, too late...
Everyone who live just outside cali should dig foxholes and wait for them to start to leave.
If those ditches keep CA agribusiness from feeding the rest of you, I think we'll be just fine.
Yeah, they can eat pickles for their green vegetables and canned peaches for their daily fruit intake. There is enough water to feed those of us in Cali fresh produce.
Oh STFU. We don't want your damn food. Here in the South we prefer to buy more local and support local farmers, not some orange that came over 2000 miles. that's not efficient. We have FL for oranges. F off. Rains every week here, hell it is raining now. I like Northern CA, but SoCal is unsustainable. So go ahead and give them your food, while you still have some cause your water sources aren't having a good future outlook.
And most people don't live in your shithole south dumbass. The industrial cities need CA food. If they didn't we wouldn't be having the discussion. And once again, fuck the south and it's self importance. You're a miniscule part of the US economy that takes more than it gives in taxes. Seriously fuck you guys.
In Cali we pay significantly more in federal taxes than we receive in federal benefits. Simple solution quit subsidizing Red States and use the left over to import Fuji drinking water.
...or perhaps stop Nestle from selling what water you have left.
Ha and that little myth is being circulated widely on the internet by the braindead. If only Nestle would stop selling water, CA wouldn't have a problem.
And the braindead lap it up like it was an epiphany from God!! ITS ALL NESTLE'S FAULT!! THOSE DAMN GREEDY CORPORATIONS!!! Truly inspired in its braindead inventiveness. I'm sure the braindead will find a way to top it though.
I will call you and raise.
LETS GET RID OF TAXES!
Problem. Fucking. Solved.
Regards,
Cooter
I'm down!!!!
Not without getting rid of usury first.