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Why Is Russia Building Massive Underground Bomb Shelters?
Submitted by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream blog,
Did you know that the Russians have a massive underground complex in the Ural mountains that has been estimated to be approximately 400 square miles in size? In other words, it is roughly as big as the area inside the Washington D.C. beltway. Back in the 1990s, the Clinton administration was deeply concerned about the construction of this enormous complex deep inside Yamantau mountain, but they could never seem to get any straight answers from the Russians. The command center for this complex is rumored to be 3,000 feet directly straight down from the summit of this giant rock quartz mountain. And of course U.S. military officials will admit that there are dozens of other similar sites throughout Russia, although most of them are thought to be quite a bit smaller. But that is not all that the Russians have been up to.
For example, Russian television has reported that 5,000 new emergency nuclear bomb shelters were scheduled to have been completed in the city of Moscow alone by the end of 2012. Most Americans don’t realize this, but the Russians have never stopped making preparations for nuclear war. Meanwhile, the U.S. government has essentially done nothing to prepare our citizens for an attack. The assumption seems to be that a nuclear attack will probably never happen, and that if it does it will probably mean the end of our civilization anyway.
Needless to say, the Russians are very secretive about their massive underground facility at Yamantau mountain, and no American has ever been inside. The following is what Wikipedia has to say about it…
Large excavation projects have been observed by U.S. satellite imagery as recently as the late 1990s, during the time of Boris Yeltsin’s government after the fall of the Soviet Union. Two garrisons, Beloretsk-15 and Beloretsk-16, were built on top of the facility, and possibly a third, Alkino-2, as well, and became the closed town of Mezhgorye in 1995. They are said to house 30,000 workers each. Repeated U.S. questions have yielded several different responses from the Russian government regarding Mount Yamantaw. They have said it is a mining site, a repository for Russian treasures, a food storage area, and a bunker for leaders in case of nuclear war. Responding to questions regarding Yamantaw in 1996, Russia’s Defense Ministry stated: “The practice does not exist in the Defense Ministry of Russia of informing foreign mass media about facilities, whatever they are, that are under construction in the interests of strengthening the security of Russia.” Large rail lines serve the facility.
Back in 1996, the New York Times reported on the continuing construction of this site. U.S. officials were quite puzzled that the Russians were continuing to build it even though the Cold War was supposedly over at that point…
In a secret project reminiscent of the chilliest days of the cold war, Russia is building a mammoth underground military complex in the Ural Mountains, Western officials and Russian witnesses say.
Hidden inside Yamantau mountain in the Beloretsk area of the southern Urals, the project involves the construction of a huge complex served by a railroad, a highway and thousands of workers.
Within the U.S. intelligence community, there was a tremendous amount of debate at that time regarding the purposes of this facility, but what everyone agreed on was that it was going to be absolutely massive…
A report in Sovetskaya Rossiya said the project involves construction of a railroad, a modern highway and towns for tens of thousands of workers and their families.
“The complex is as big as the Washington area inside the Beltway,” said an American official familiar with intelligence reports.
A couple of years later, a top U.S. general said that he believed that the complex at Yamantau had “millions of square feet available for underground facilities”…
In 1998, in a rare public comment, then-Commander of the U.S. Strategic Command (STRATCOM) Gen. Eugene Habinger, called Yamantau “a very large complex — we estimate that it has millions of square feet available for underground facilities. We don’t have a clue as to what they’re doing there.”
It is believed to be large enough to house 60,000 persons, with a special air filtration system designed to withstand a nuclear, chemical or biological attack. Enough food and water is believed to be stored at the site to sustain the entire underground population for months on end.
A few years after that, in 2003, there was an article in the Washington Post by Bruce G. Blair in which Yamantau was mentioned as a potential key target for U.S. nuclear war planners…
Die-hard [U.S.] nuclear war planners actually have their eyes on targets in Russia and China, including missile silos and leadership bunkers. For these planners, the Cold War never ended. Their top two candidates [i.e., targets] in Russia are located inside the Yamantau and Kosvinsky mountains in the central and southern Urals.
Both were huge construction projects begun in the late 1970s, when U.S. nuclear firepower took special aim at the Communist Party’s leadership complex.
Fearing a decapitating strike, the Soviets sent tens of thousands of workers to these remote sites, where U.S. spy satellites spotted them still toiling away in the late 1990s.
But the Russians have not just been building giant underground facilities deep in the Urals.
They have also been constructing thousands of new underground bomb shelters in major cities such as Moscow.
The following is an excerpt from an RT article in 2010…
Nearly 5,000 new emergency bomb shelters will be built in Moscow by 2012 to save people in case of potential attacks.
Moscow authorities say the measure is urgent as the shelters currently available in the city can house no more that half of its population.
In the last 20 years, the area of air-raid defense has been developed little, and the existing shelters have become outdated. Moreover, they are located mostly in the city center, which makes densely populated Moscow outskirts especially vulnerable in the event of a nuclear attack.
In order to resolve the issue, the city has given architects a task to construct a typical model of an easy-to-build shelter that will be located all over the city 10 to 15 meters underneath apartment blocks, shopping centers, sport complexes and parks, as in case of attack people will need to reach the shelters within a minute.
Of course all of this construction cost the Russians a lot of money.
One estimate put the cost at “anywhere from half a billion to a billion dollars”…
Though the bunkers are supposed to be designed to shelter the population in the event of a nuclear attack, government officials say it’s only a precaution and they do not expect such an attack or nuclear outbreak (e.g. Chernobyl) to occur. Neither RT or the Russian government provided estimates for the cost of the facilities. A Popular Mechanics article that reviewed a number of different types of bunkers and building practices had varying prices depending on the type of shelter. Since the proposed Russian bunkers would hold roughly 1000 people each (based on the population count and other details), one could estimate that the lowest price point for a bunker this size, with basic necessities like bathrooms and reserve food for a day or two, may run in the area of around $100,000 – $200,000. This would put a conservative price tag for 5000 shelters anywhere from half a billion to a billion dollars. A significant investment, indeed.
So what about us?
Has the U.S. government constructed any bunkers for the survival of the general population in the United States?
Of course not. In the event of a nuclear war, I guess they just expect pretty much all of us to die.
The Russians also recently finished work on a brand new national defense center in Moscow that contains extensive underground facilities…
Russia is launching a new national defense facility, which is meant to monitor threats to national security in peacetime, but would take control of the entire country in case of war.
The new top-security, fortified facility in Moscow includes several large war rooms, a brand new supercomputer in the heart of a state-of-the-art data processing center, underground facilities, secret transport routes for emergency evacuation and a helicopter pad, which was deployed for the first time on Nov. 24 on the Moscow River. The Defense Ministry won’t disclose the price tag for the site, but it is estimated at the equivalent of several billion dollars.
In addition, the Russians have also been developing a new anti-ballistic missile system that is designed to keep U.S. nuclear missiles from getting to their targets in the first place.
The U.S. doesn’t have anything like the S-500 that is currently being developed by the Russians. At the latest, it is scheduled to be deployed in 2017, but there are rumors that it is already starting to be deployed today. The following comes from military-today.com…
The S-500 is not an upgrade of the S-400, but a new design. It uses a lot of new technology and is superior to the S-400. It was designed to intercept ballistic missiles. It is planned to have a range of 500-600 km and hit targets at altitudes as high as 40 km. Some sources claim that this system is capable of tracking 5-20 ballistic targets and intercepting up to 5-10 ballistic targets simultaneously. It can defeat ballistic missiles traveling at 5-7 kilometers per second. It has been reported that this air defense system can also target low orbital satellites. It is planned that the S-500 will shield Moscow and the regions around it. It will replace the current A-135 anti-ballistic missile system. The S-500 missiles will be used only against the most important targets, such as intercontinental ballistic missiles, AWACS and jamming aircraft.
Sadly, most Americans are not interested in this stuff at all.
These days, most Americans just assume that the Russians are “our friends” and that a war with Russia could never possibly happen.
What they don’t realize is that the Russian people see things very, very differently. Today, 81 percent of Russians have a negative opinion of the United States. Our interference in the conflict in Ukraine has made the Russian people very angry, and there are many over there that now believe that a shooting war with the United States is inevitable.
And this week things between the United States and Russia got even more tense. Barack Obama has already announced that we will be sending “non-lethal” military aid to the Ukrainians, but now the U.S. House of Representatives has overwhelmingly passed a resolution that calls for Obama to send “lethal” military aid to the government in Kiev…
Yesterday, in a vote that largely slid under the radar, the House of Representatives passed a resolution urging Obama to send lethal aid to Ukraine, providing offensive, not just “defensive” weapons to the Ukraine army – the same insolvent, hyperinflating Ukraine which, with a Caa3/CC credit rating, last week started preparations to issue sovereign debt with a US guarantee, in essence making it a part of the United States (something the US previously did as a favor to Egypt before the Muslim Brotherhood puppet regime was swept from power by the local army).
The resolution passed with broad bipartisan support by a count of 348 to 48.
According to DW, the measure urges Obama to provide Ukraine with “lethal defensive weapon systems” that would better enable Ukraine to defend its territory from “the unprovoked and continuing aggression of the Russian Federation.”
“Policy like this should not be partisan,” said House Democrat Eliot Engel, the lead sponsor of the resolution. “That is why we are rising today as Democrats and Republicans, really as Americans, to say enough is enough in Ukraine.”
If Obama does decide to send lethal military aid to the Ukrainians, the Russians are going to flip out.
Sadly, neither side seems very interested in peace at this point.
We just continue to take even more steps along the road toward World War III, and it is a war that the United States is completely and utterly unprepared for.
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You mean "coronal mass ejections" (or Carrington events). "EMPs" are extremely localized devices, max range is about two city blocks.
EMP = manmade, localized
CME= natural, potentially global effects.
Those occasional meteor strikes, during the summer months in Siberia, can be really disturbing....
Tell the Kremlin to make sure the walls aren't reinforced with Amber.
Nice Yen, very nice.
Coming from the " Master of Disaster", I'll wear that comment, like a badge of honor.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event
I'm certainly not interested in this fear porn bullshit.
Are you a Lufthansa pilot?
Purity Of Essence
That's why ..,
My precious bodily fluids thank you.
We must not allow a mine shaft gap.
We survived some folks.
speaking of bunkers-
why is this being built and why is the US taxpayer stuck with the bill?
http://original.antiwar.com/richard-silverstein/2012/12/02/why-is-the-us...
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/03/us-spending-hundreds-of-mil...
http://www.youtube.com/index.html?v=wqSFqUY6tUI
well now you have it. The USA are building a nuclear bunker for Israelis, but not for their own people. Why is that? Can you guess???
ObamaPhone bill too expensive?
Imma stay topside wth the mutants.
Maybe Putin has been reading Paul Craig Roberts:
Crazed Washington Drives the World to the Final WarJohn Pilger is the kind of well-informed, hard-hitting journalist with gobs of integrity that no longer exists in the Western mainstream media. He has the most distinguished career of all in the business.
In the article below he brings stunning information to one of my own themes–the creation by Washington and its NATO vassals of an artificial reality consisting entirely of propaganda into which Washington has placed the entire Western world and all outside who inspire to be part of it. Westerners live in The Matrix, and the presstitutes keep them there. The New York Times, Wall Street Journal, NPR, and the TV channels perform as agents (as in the Matrix film) actively suppressing any glimmer of factual reality.
Western people have no comprehension of the real reasons for Washington’s murderous interventions in Yugoslavia, Middle East, Afghanistan, Libya, Ukraine, Indonesia, or Latin America. The most transparent lies are fed to people too ignorant to recognize the lies. The lies have cost huge numbers of deaths and injuries and are leading directly to war with Russia and China.
It is probably too late to stop this war. The war is inevitable because Washington’s doctrine of world hegemony does not permit the existence of other strong countries with independent foreign policies. Unless the House-of-Card US economy collapses, the only way Russia and China can avoid war is to accept Washington’s overlordship.
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/03/05/crazed-washington-drives-worl...
Helluva good article, man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L5wMiQBS2U
80s revival
RE
Because they don't trust the EU, UK, and US and are smart?
Either that, or they know an Asteroid is coming
Yeah that asteriod has broken into hundreds of pieces, with the nme Patriot Missle
Dr Strangelove has the solution. America must not fall behind in the in the underground race. To preserve our precious bodily fluids we must create more and deeper nuclear shelters than those russkie bastards. Spreading fear is a great game.
I'm sure we have many underground shelters in the US - just not for us. If they want serfs at some point in the future I guess they'll just breed them.
Its a big club, and we aint in it!
Too true.
I'm an expert at ducking and covering so I'll be fine.
SPF 5,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Sunscreen will protect you against a Russian nuclear attack....
Gotta be non-GMO tho.
and no Gluten
Could be they are preparing for huge solar flares, which are probably just as likely as nukes.
Good place to store oil.
Like in Nevada?
http://earthsky.org/earth/northwest-nevada-earthquake-swarm-started-summ...
Been watching this for the last 3 years and sometin's up. It's partly on a game preserve and google earth shows a few major agricultural operations in the area.
<-- more NATO warmongering
<-- Those nasty Russkies made us do it (launch WW III).
I am counting on that neocon hair-licking John Bolton to leap in front of the 14,000 F nuclear blast wavefront travelling at 800 mph, just in the nick of time to save me.
Right, John?
John?
And next Putin builds a railway to DC: http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-trans-eurasian-belt-development-li...
US govt is not doing anything simply because they don't give a damn about the American people, better for them if half of the US population get killed in a nuke strike. Less resistence to face.
Kissinger calls them useless eaters
Preparing defenses against nuclear war is proof Putin is re-kindling the Cold War
Wow, the Pressitutes never miss a beat to absolve Obomber of his crimes against world peace
Obama could not make all these mistakes in foreign policy by mistake. He is one evil sob.
Man cave.
You should see how much vodka, beer, and wings they have.
Well, the Russians have seen the handy work of the Bolsheviks first hand, to the tune of 100m+ slaughtered by those savages. Now these Bolshies have control of the world's nuclear arsenal and the Russians know what could be in store for them.
Yes, Russians have seen Bolsheviks
And it is them.
Bolsheviks were Jews, Georgians and Ukrainians. Don't hang Bolshevism on the Russians
As committed Orthodox, they wanted nothing to do with godless Communism
Horseshit from a Paid Puutie Puppy.
Who knew Khrushchev was a Georgian Jew. Are you sure of that?
Kruschev was not a bolshevik...
you know nothing about these subjects
Kruschev was a Ukrainian national
If you do not know what you are talking of, just shutup...
Sadly, most Americans are not interested in this stuff at all.
These days, most Americans just assume that the Russians are “our friends” and that a war with Russia could never possibly happen.
Don't nobody worry about 'ol Nutty Nuukie Puutie. The psycho KGB killer is your friend. Read it right heer on ZH. Posted daily by the Paid Puutie Trolls.
meanwhile, ovile & his obedient minions in congress spent today learning how to bake cookies for their new extreme progressive friends
So, okay Russia lauches and we retliate significantly, say 100-150 bombs raining down on your Russian melons,,,Those in the bunkers become prisoners underground for the rest of their lives/nd/or till the food water runs out...sounds like great strategy
Lets tke it a step further, the s500 stops all of the US Missles, but because Russia launches 100+ missles at US, THE Cloud of radiation is so severe that hovers over Russia like a malignant curtain...you still are forced to live undrground, IF the planet survives, because there are no studies as to what effect that many nucler bombs eleased into the tmosphere would affect the long term survivl of the planet's atmosphere, and/or the resultant effects upon the ecological balnce, and/or life processes
You fucking ass hole propagansists fucks
Let's look at Horoshima and Nagasaki. Both seem to be bustling cities at the present.
Well Dr. Strangelove
The EMP's knocks out the grid and several dozen nuclear power plants go offline and Fukushima at the same time
Wow. If this wasn't snarc, you should volunteer your services to Obomber. Because I think he and his team believe America could win a nuclear war wth Russia
No, but apparently Putin thinks Russia can, right fuckstick? What else would you glean from the "scholarly" article above
You fucking douche
What's wrong?
Is your zio-prop not well recieved?
Maybe if you stomped your foot as you mudsling you might feel better.
Lumberjackoff
Seriously, you are trying to compare the embryonic SINGULAR bombs dropped on those 2 Japanese cities, with the multiple 100's of todays weapons that would be unleashed in todays scenario?, which technology and power is like comparing a formula 1 car with a Model T
Your stupidity/propaganda is frightening
I had expected that there would have been at least ten of the morons responding that they just hope it happens soon. Maybe they have had too much Milwaukee's Best by now.
obviously you do not know maths enough to distinguish kilo and mega as units.
Some irony here...
I just can't seem to place it... but I know it is here...
We all know he isn't that smart.
What happens to the Bible-thumpers when Dr. Hogan proves the universe is a hologram and the extraterrestrials finally arrive in the nick-o-time to disrupt all terra-centric religions?
now, back to the bomb shelters
We irradiated some folks.
Did the US finish building Bunker 9/11 in Israel yet???
Those are just tombs for the suckers. I know where Puta is gonna be when they pull the plug:
04:48 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2C8Eq11UjA
Fortress Alps. Make no mistake.
The amount of people who think a deity wrote the bible is shocking.
These morons will act in such a way as to self-fulfill their prophecy of global doom.
The bibliomancers of the Abrahamic Myths are the prevailing risk to human life.
Bitches.
The Bible is out and out plagiarism of my ancestors The Sumerians
It wasn't Noah in a bullshit Ark. It was Utnapishtim in a submarine. Duh.
Marduk was left behind, calls himself amen zion now.
True-The Jews and Christians thing if they can start WWlll, that this will compell the Messiah and Jesus to appear and save them all. Stoopid(sic) bastards
You are only a little mixed up.
It is the Iranian ImADinnerJacket who made that pledge.
Lie
2 + 2 = chicken! Good luck with your hopes and dreams ye of little (no) faith. You suck at math and math never lies.
a guy banging his head against the desk is calling other people morons
funny
This is really where they have been growing Putins clones and where it takes 10 days to take one out of the vat and upload all the memories into it?
How much did Russia spend on these facilities?
About half as much as Obama costs American taxpapyers for his vacations & golf games.
Obama the day after the East Coast is obliterated
"Look at the bright side folks, you survivors have all met your Obamacarre deductibles"
Wow too funny, I believe he would say that!
I'd rather just be vaporized, who would want to live in a world filled with toxic plume? The nuclear dust clouds would pollute everything and block out much needed sun. That was a waste to build, just die and see what's on the other side :-)
There is one thing the S-700 can't stop, and what would quite possibly be our initial strike. Orbital detonation EMP burst. Once Russia is dark, nothing else matters.
I test EMP hardenend electronic devices everday. Of course, it might also have crossed the minds of many people to use large scale Faraday shields as well. Such as in large bunkers?
But aside from the construction of large bomb shelters, Russia being a mineral rich country, for all anyone knows is they found some deposits of titanium/platinum/palladium/gold and mined it out... also leaving some rather large bomb shelters.
Either that or they found Balrogs which they plan on using against Washington, D.C. :)
You read that off the back of a Capt Crunch cereal box?
Are you overlooking all the Russian nuclear missile submarines that aren't anywhere near Russia?
I thought I read somewhere that Russia was building subs for the Caspian Sea which will have ICBMs that could reach Europe, Middle East and even the USA. The Caspian is landlocked but it allows the Russians to get around nuke treaties and is a very nice place to hide more ICBMs.
S-700?
sources
I'll let my people know of the situation here on earth and see if they have any suggestions.
Placebo.
It is one way to propagandize to the population that Imperialist America is about to invade Mother Russia
It's brainwashing
Ekm, how's " Little China" treating you? You're smarter than that! I have faith in you!
Spoiler alert. This is old news. Russia's response to "Mt. Weather" in Virginia.
Of course nobody stateside is lifting a finger to protect proles from nuclear attack. The targets of Uncle Sugar's nukes are the major cities of any state daft enough to try to secede.
No, it won't do much good long term. But it helps to underline the difference between Uncle Sugar and Mother Russia.
Russia has a Samson Option---if the Russian people die, so will their enemies.
Uncle Sugar has a Jonestown Option---when the banksters figure out the game is over, they'll make sure their slaves quit the game too.
God Rod May already be deployed.
A kinectic energy based weapon system.
God Rod May already be deployed.
A kinectic energy based weapon system.
CERN will reveal ‘Gods’ from other dimensions later in the year.
Project Blue Beam, yada, yada.
Update:NWO's Project Blue Beam and the real reasons for Chemtrails!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peUkPNx9DSU
"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"
Bankers and politicians would survive, you can bank on it. We need their wisdom, and guidance.
Anyone paying attention has figured out that Americans are expendible.
Looks like Russia is building shelters for ALL or nearly all of it people. Here only the very elite Republican Congress and the President/Military/Indutrialists will be getting into shelters
Because if there's one thing the Ruskies learned during the Cold War, it's how to produce shovel-ready jobs.
Because trey are not stupid and they see the group of homicidal idiots running the states who think that they can win a nuclear war. Imagine that how in the he'll do you win a nuclear war.
There are plenty of DUMBs worth looking into in the US
Gee, You'd almost think that they heard the US is planning a first strike nuclear attack.
I consulted with other Q99X2 and the way that this bunker strategy works out is that it doesn't. There are contingent plans for periodic nuclear attacks on all known bunker facilities for a time that exceeds the survival capabilities of each of the facilities.
Duh!
Gee, maybe because NATO/USA ringfenced their country with military bases?
no kidding, were ready to bomb them back to the stone age
Gee, maybe because those NATO countries wanted to NOT be the next Georgia or Ukraine.
Once these countries observe Russian criminals in action elsewhere they want protection.
Where will Puutie go next? Finland again?
IMO you sir, are positive proof the human race does not deserve a place in the universe of intelligent beings.
That drooling idiot does not represent me.
This "news" is not "new".So, I wonder why this old story has been re-released just now.
The United States has several complexes across the country that could be similar to these. I am only vaguely familiar with the general location of three of them. Obviously, they are not meant for "us". I am sure that several thousand people could survive a nuclear winter, if these shelters are not over-populated. But hundreds of millions will not be able to gain entry to any of these. So, the question should not be: why are the Russians doing it and we are not; but rather: why aren't we investing billions of dollars per year in anti-ballistic missile systems to cover, to double- and then to triple-cover the United States and its territories?
When George W. Bush unilaterally withdrew the United States from its ABM treaty with the Soviet Union/Russia, what was he thinking?
You are assuming too much about the Great USA.
Like that time when you assumed that US cares about people's rights to privacy and all that shit.
When US withdrew from ABM, it only means US already have got their ABM quietly ready.
Like the Moratorium on Nuclear Bomb testing was only becuase US already had done about 50% of all the test conducted by all nuclear nations. US did not want any others stumbling upon whatever they learned from all the tests.
US ABM sucks . moreover russia's abm is better . Fact
WTF? George W. Bush was capable of thinking ???
He was clearly capable of thinking about booze and white powdery stuff in college. Not that it takes a lot of brain cells to cater to one's cravings.
Thinking means differently to mental retards than to intelligent humans.
"I am only vaguely familiar with the general location of three of them. Obviously, they are not meant for "us"."
tic toc
you fools
http://wbai.org/server-archive.html
Gary Null Show
Thursday, March 26, 2015 12:00 pm
Damn good thing we won that cold war.
Despite their efforts, only survivors in this will be the elites.
Fallout 3 - good preview.
Now I understand, why US is pushing Russia for a Nuclear War.
1. The US Government has no money to pay all the obligations to its people. Worst, it is in huge debt.
2. The US Government has bunkers for its own gang.
3. The US Government has said many times that depleted uranium can be cleaned out. They proved it by using one such device in center of New York on WTC Towers. Soil tests indicate that. USG refuses to even consider the tests.
Based on the above, The US Government is obviously trying to get Russia to clean up America. Will Russia oblige?
I am sure on that day, all the US Military will be on stand down.
So that's where Putin disappeared to for several days. Personal inspection of the readiness of the facilities.
don't be so paranoid
it won't happen
yet
I'm not paranoid.......I'm just extremely perceptive...... :-)
chuck norris is so tough- he eats coal for breakfast and shits out diamonds for dinner!
The best way to keep from making enemies is to simply leave them be...
I would suggest getting NATO the hell away from Russia's borders.
I would suggest not overthrowing their neighbors governments.
I would suggest not classifying them as terrorists
My representative said yea to a bill to arm Ukraine in order to goad Russia more. He along with the rest in DC have gone completely mad. They are no longer representatives of the People, They are the trained dogs of corporations. I will never ever vote again.
We the people are being drug into a fight by mankinds worse of the worse that will very probably destroy all life and most don't seem to care.
Maybe it's for the best.
I stopped voting when the US bombed Yugoslavia. It doesn't matter what face is on the US Deep State, white, black, or female.
The US wants to rule the world and Eurasia will not submit. So where does that leave us? WW3.
Everyone keeps saying that. Yet the currency has just been intentionally killed, Chinese citizens and business people are purchasing vast parcels of land, one-third of the population of 300 million are idle, the other 2/3 are on govt checks of one kind of another, which totals some ungodly sum of money and which, along with nonstop war and a military state costing hundreds of millions of dollars, the pilfering, the grafting, the predatory business practices, the lawsuits, Obamacare which is a long line to the grave for anyone not in perfect health..on and fucking on...so tell me, what makes you think Americans want to take over the world? Would it not appear that those who benefit from this aggression and unsustainable monetary policy are in the process of desolving America and sending her citizens into tax slave status? Of course it would. Lobby groups with the most cash (soaked in blood and tears!) decides what happens in America, and they have decided "rape and pillage."
When one refers to 'Americans@ now, they usually mean the American government, not its people. And its government is ruled by an oligarchyof the rich and powerful who know no borders and could not possibly care less about the people. They are draining the American people of their wealth and future and utilising its vast military and financial assets to bully other nations across the globe. It all comes down to money, power and energy - the people can eat cake.
Yugoslavia and Waco did it for me. When I realised the USA and NATO were 'the bad guys'.
Incidently both 'bomb them back to the stoneage' Wesley Clark.
Russia is building shelters because the Yanks are increasingly insane with power and plain evil with it.
They have doctrine of first strike and will commit a false flag if necessary as an excuse to use it.
Russia, unlike the west, are building vast shelters for the people.
Not just for the few and super rich.
In the west the people are so much 'collatoral damage' and disposable.
Our governments don't give a damn for either us or our kids.
Nothing but greed, sleaze, corruption and mass murder when it suits.
I would suggest dispanding NATO.
Nato was the West's answer to the Warsaw Pact....which has not existed now for what....25 years?
If there is no Warsaw Pact, there is no requirement for Nato...it should disappear.
Agree with you! We murder people in foreign lands to defend our dollar. Revelation 18 describes the nuclear destruction coming to the West when we finally forfeit any further divine protection.
The farce of gay marriage is a concept that never existed within Christendom, in any nation, until the last 10 or 15 years. Our government fell for it and immediately starts going after Christians, who, throughout our history, until only the last few years, were allowed to obey their conscience. This is national apostasy from the very principles and heritage bequeathed to us by our Founding Fathers.
"A judge in Washington state has slammed the grandmother who owns and operates Arlene’s Flowers with personal liability should she lose any of the lawsuits pending against her for adhering to her religious convictions and declining to celebrate and decorate for same-sex ceremonies."
The authorities are now making laws that restrict religious liberty. They assume the right that is God's alone. They think they can force the conscience which God alone should control. This work they will carry forward till they reach a boundary line over which they cannot step, and God will interpose.
So the Russians build bunkers because they have not forgotten The Cold War and US "die-hard" planners are still working on nuclear strikes on those facilities..........
No worries here...I have "obamacare"!
Right?
http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1166-russian-tv-undergrou...
Grandma...why your underground bomb shelter is SO BIG!?
oh Lord, yeah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GRR_n_yQGA
Jump on the train - its leaving the station
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q8fh2DFOVY
Louna "Fight Club"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sdPd7tdTh0
" most Americans just assume that the Russians are “our friends” "
I think they are.
But you are lacking friends in high places in your own country.
There's no reason whatsoever for the American and Russian peoples not to be friends. But powerful forces work to make them feel like enemies.
We have plans in australia too, its called drive out into the desert.....really, really fast.
"The key to a successful reintroduction of civilization following a massive scale nuclear war is people." It's all in the book:
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Vault_Dweller%27s_Survival_Guide
The Vault Dweller's Survival Guide
You think "Fallout" is just a game?! Well, think again ...
:)
Russians have a knack for surviving world wars, they have sensed it right that greedy (israeli cabals) in America will spark a nuclear war with Russia (& others). The reasons are many :
1. They were ousted from Russia WW-I . They want revenge . Their gawd says "eye for eye,tooth for tooth, hand for hand,foot for foot"
2. They want revenge from europeans
3. They want revenge from arabs
4. They want to grab their wealth, gold mines , silver mines, oil & gas etc.
5. Revenge is holy (approved by their ideology)
Our version is under DIA. They serve a very important function. They will keep the assholes who start wars alive through the chaos they started so they can start wars again in the future.
Erm, looking at you avatar I get a feeling as if you know quite well like what this will end up:
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/West_Tek_research_facility
May I remind you: Keep an eye on Denver - watch out for "Limit 115" .....
What is some folks are going to get barbequed?
Russia protects its citizens (underground bunkers) vs. USA protects its rich (aboveground FEMA camps)
hah!
Ever hear of a gulag?
It was meant to be a commentary on the prevailing propaganda used to instill fear and control populations (nuclear holocaust vs. extreme fascist state).
Maybe it's just propaganda, since both sides have more than just nuclear weapons pointed at each other. There are biological weapons too, which - in case of a nuclear war - will poison Russia's air for hundereds of years. I think this is all just BS.
If either side hits the button it will be over for the human race. Period. It's not called MAD for nothing.
Just putinpals here at ZH trying to scare the world with nukes since bears have gone all gummy and don't work any longer. There will be plenty of nukes for an American second salvo from the subs waiting in the deep all across the globe.
There is nothing visible on Google Earth comparable to the entrance to Norad Cheyenne Mountain. No road or rail portals into the mountain, just deserted mining facilities. This is just regurgitated propaganda from the late 1990's.
Reminds you of that photo with a young Putin in the Russian contingent near Reagan at summit back in the 80s.
The fall of the Berlin wall and the dissolution of the USSR and all that came with it are in the history books, in danger of being forgotten, and nobody under 40 would know what you were talking about.
Ha, Ha, Ha...
Look up the term "Continuity of Operations". The Acronym is "COOP".
Then go look up the executive orders over the last six years.
The bunkers have been a-building.
People are stupid when they attribute these things to nations. A nation is a collective, and has no real will any more than a mob does. What it has is a collection of the loudest voices who stampede things in one way or another.
People tilting at windmills when they attribute the actions of the US government to US elites. Yes the US deep state is real in as much as it controls the Federal government. What they fail to realize is that most of these characters who control it are not Americans in any sense.
The US is a nation that has experienced a 'Revolution within the Form'. It has been ruled from Europe for most of the last century.
The US has been the Queen on the chessboard since WWII, very visible, very powerful, visibly at the center of strategy, and not really directing any of the strategy that matters...only the operations, and then under false pretenses.
China is the new Queen, and the US is going to be sacrificed.
You really think Oboner is in charge? In charge of the US bureaucracies, yes. In charge of US international policy? No.
Misdirection. Confusion. Subterfuge has been in everything the bankers have done in the last century... Yet people still think the choice between approved candidate blue, and approved candidate red is a real choice. It is not. The 'Approved Candidate' part is the distinction, not the 'Blue' or 'Red'. And they prove it every day, with remarkably similar and consistent policies across party lines, across differenet Congress' and across decades.
When have you ever seen any 500 people remain so consistent? And their successors? And their successor's successors? And so on for decades? Not real. They are the Great and Powerful Oz.
Time to take a look behind the curtain.
You'll find a Euro Banker there.
During the cold war, the US pissed away crazy money on military toys that were never used and thrown away. The USSR spent some money on basic hardware, but the vast majority was spent on actual defense. A $800B plane is all nice and good, but eventually it has to be replaced. You only have to dig a hole in the mountains once, and generally you are set.
The US system was based on a concept of MAD and first strike winnable scenarios. The USSR system was based on survival and revenge. If you are looking at survival and revenge, it's far cheaper and easier to pull off.
And this should be the #1 tell of who cares about what.
In the US, the only shelters are for military, the public is fucked.
In Russia, there are massive shelters in place
In China, virtually every single highrise building is required to have multiple underground levels of shelter. All of it built of concrete and steel. All parking garages are built to be shelters as well, complete with blast doors.
The US might be able to nuke the world a few times over, but all the americans will be dead apart from the assholes who pushed the button in the first place. China, Russia, Norway, and others... life will go on.
WOW a billion fucking dollars! Obama is planning on giving away ten times that to illegal aliens! Screw helping the American people.
"Of course all of this construction cost the Russians a lot of money.
One estimate put the cost at “anywhere from half a billion to a billion dollars”…
because they're smart ?