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Government Secrecy At All-Time High

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US Supreme Court Justice Brandeis said:

Publicity is justly commended as a remedy for social and industrial diseases. Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants; electric light the most efficient policeman.

But there’s no longer much sunlight to disinfect the corruption of the government or the powers-that-be.

More and more commonly, the government prosecutes cases based upon “secret evidence” that they don’t show to the defendant … or sometimes even the judge hearing the case.

As just one example, government is “laundering” information gained through mass surveillance through other agencies, with an agreement that the agencies will “recreate” the evidence in a “parallel construction” … so the original source of the evidence is kept secret from the defendant, defense attorneys and the judge.   A former top NSA official says that this is the opposite of following the Fourth Amendment, but is a “totalitarian process” which shows that we’re in a “police state”.

The government uses “secret evidence” to spy on Americans, prosecute leaking or terrorism charges (even against U.S. soldiers) and even assassinate people. And see this and this.

Secret witnesses are being used in some cases. And sometimes lawyers are being prevented from reading their own briefs.

Indeed, even the laws themselves are now starting to be kept secret. And it’s about to get a lot worse.

American citizens are also being detained in Guantanamo-like conditions in Chicago … including being held in secret, with the government refusing to tell a suspect’s lawyer whether his client is being held.   And see this, this and this.

The Department of Defense has also made it a secret – even from Congress – as to the identity of the main enemies of the United States.

Today, Glenn Greenwald adds yet another twist to the trend towards secrecy:

A truly stunning debasement of the U.S. justice system just occurred through the joint efforts of the Obama Justice Department and a meek and frightened Obama-appointed federal judge, Edgardo Ramos, all in order to protect an extremist neocon front group from scrutiny and accountability. The details are crucial for understanding the magnitude of the abuse here.

 

At the center of it is an anti-Iranian group calling itself “United Against Nuclear Iran” (UANI), which is very likely a front for some combination of the Israeli and U.S. intelligence services. When launched, NBC described its mission as waging “economic and psychological warfare” against Iran. The group was founded and is run and guided by a roster of U.S., Israeli and British neocon extremists such as Joe Lieberman, former Bush Homeland Security adviser (and current CNN “analyst”) Fran Townsend, former CIA Director James Woolsey, and former Mossad Director Meir Dagan. One of its key advisers is Olli Heinonen, who just co-authored Washington Post Op-Ed with former Bush CIA/NSA Director Michael Hayden arguing that Washington is being too soft on Tehran.

 

This group of neocon extremists was literally just immunized by a federal court from the rule of law. That was based on the claim — advocated by the Obama DOJ and accepted by Judge Ramos — that subjecting them to litigation for their actions would risk disclosure of vital “state secrets.” The court’s ruling was based on assertions made through completely secret proceedings between the court and the U.S. government, with everyone else — including the lawyers for the parties — kept in the dark.

 

In May 2013, UANI launched a “name and shame” campaign designed to publicly identify — and malign — any individuals or entities enabling trade with Iran. One of the accused was the shipping company of Greek billionaire Victor Restis, who vehemently denies the accusation. He hired an American law firm and sued UANI for defamation in a New York federal court, claiming the “name and shame” campaign destroyed his reputation.

 

Up until that point, there was nothing unusual about any of this: just a garden-variety defamation case brought in court by someone who claims that public statements made about him are damaging and false. That happens every day. But then something quite extraordinary happened: In September of last year, the U.S. government, which was not a party, formally intervened in the lawsuit, and demanded that the court refuse to hear Restis’s claims and instead dismiss the lawsuit against UANI before it could even start, on the ground that allowing the case to proceed would damage national security.

 

When the DOJ intervened in this case and asserted the “state secrets privilege,” it confounded almost everyone. The New York Times’s Matt Apuzzo noted at the time that “the group is not affiliated with the government, and lists no government contracts on its tax forms. The government has cited no precedent for using the so­-called state­ secrets privilege to quash a private lawsuit that does not focus on government activity.” He quoted the ACLU’s Ben Wizner as saying: “I have never seen anything like this.” Reuters’s Allison Frankel labeled the DOJ’s involvement a “mystery” and said “the government’s brief is maddeningly opaque about its interest in a private libel case.”

 

Usually, when the U.S. government asserts the “state secrets privilege,” it is because they are a party to the lawsuit, being sued for their own allegedly illegal acts (such as torture or warrantless surveillance), and they claim that national security would be harmed if they are forced to defend themselves. In rare cases, they do intervene and assert the privilege in lawsuits between private parties, but only where the subject of the litigation is a government program and one of the parties is a government contractor involved in that program — such as when torture victims sued a Boeing subsidiary, Jeppesen, for its role in providing airplanes for the rendition program and the Obama DOJ insisted (successfully) that the case not go forward, and the victim of U.S. torture was thus told that he could not even have a day in court.

 

But in this case, there is no apparent U.S. government conduct at issue in the lawsuit. At least based on what they claim about themselves, UANI is just “a not-for-profit, non-partisan, advocacy group” that seeks to “educate” the public about the dangers of Iran’s nuclear program. Why would such a group like this even possess “state secrets”? It would be illegal to give them such material. Or could it be that the CIA or some other U.S. government agency has created and controls the group, which would be a form of government-disseminated propaganda, which happens to be illegal?

 

What else could explain the basis for the U.S. government’s argument that allowing UANI to be sued would risk the disclosure of vital “state secrets” besides a desire to cover up something quite untoward if not illegal? What “state secrets” could possibly be disclosed by suing a nice, little “not-for-profit, non-partisan, advocacy group”?

 

We don’t know the answers to those questions, nor do the lawyers for the plaintiffs whose lawsuit the DOJ wants dismissed. That’s because, beyond the bizarre DOJ intervention itself, the extreme secrecy that shaped the judicial proceedings is hard to overstate. Usually, when the U.S. government asserts the “state secrets privilege,” at least some information is made public about what they are claiming: which official or department is invoking the privilege, the general nature of the secrets allegedly at risk, the reasons why allowing the claims to be adjudicated would risk disclosure, etc. Some redacted version of the affidavit from the government official making the secrecy claim is made part of the case.

 

Here, virtually everything has been hidden, even from the plaintiffs’ lawyers. Not only did the U.S. government provide no clue as to what the supposedly endangered “state secrets” are, but they concealed even the identity of the agency making the claim: was it the CIA, the Treasury Department, the State Department, some combination? Nothing is known about any of this, not even who is making the secrecy claim.

 

Instead, the DOJ’s arguments about why “secrecy” compels dismissal of the entire lawsuit were made in a brief that only Judge Ramos (and not even the parties) gets to read, but even more amazingly, were elaborated on in secret meetings by DOJ lawyers in the judge’s chambers with nobody else present. Were recordings or transcripts of these meetings made? Is there any record of what the U.S. government whispered in the ear of the judge to scare him into believing that National Security Would Be Harmed™ if he allowed the case to proceed? Nobody knows. The whole process is veiled in total secrecy, labeled a “judicial proceeding” but containing none of the transparency, safeguards or adversarial process that characterizes minimally fair courts.

 

This sham worked. This week, Judge Ramos issued his ruling dismissing the entire lawsuit (see below). As a result of the DOJ’s protection, UANI cannot be sued. Among other things, it means this group of neocon extremists now has a license to defame anyone they want. They can destroy your reputation with false accusations in a highly public campaign, and when you sue them for it, the DOJ will come in and whisper in the judge’s ear that national security will be damaged if — like everyone else in the world — UANI must answer in a court of law for their conduct. And subservient judicial officials like Judge Ramos will obey the U.S. government’s dictates and dismiss your lawsuit before it begins, without your having any idea why that even happened.

 

Worse, in his written ruling, the judge expressly acknowledges that dismissal of the entire lawsuit at the start on secrecy grounds is what he calls a “harsh sanction,” and also acknowledges that “it is particularly so in this case because Plaintiffs not only do not get their day in court, but cannot be told why” (emphasis added). But he does it anyway, in a perfunctory 18-page opinion that does little other than re-state some basic legal principles, and then just concludes that everything the government whispered in his ear should be accepted. Just read for yourself what Judge Ramos said in defending his dismissal to see how wildly disparate it is from everything we’re propagandized to believe about the U.S. justice system:

 

What kind of “justice system” allows a neocon “advocacy” group to be immunized from the law, because the U.S. government waltzed into court, met privately with the judge, and whispered in secret that he had better dismiss all claims against that group lest he harm national security? To describe what happened here is to illustrate what a perverse travesty it is. Restis’s lawyer, Abbe Lowell, said in a statement this week:

We are disappointed that some secret relationship between UANI and the government allows UANI to hide from disclosing that association or to defend what has now been proven to be its false and defamatory allegations directed at Mr. Restis and his company. We are mystified that the U.S. government has such a stake in this case that it would take such extraordinary steps to prevent full disclosure of the secret interest it has with UANI or others. And, we are concerned that, in our court system, such a result could occur on the basis of sealed, one-sided filings and meetings in which we were not allowed to participate.

Indeed, the government is going to incredible lengths to keep secrets, including:

  • Treating reporters like terrorists. And see this
  • Prosecuting and demanding draconian jail sentences for whistleblowers
  • Framing whistleblowers with false evidence

Sadly, the sunlight is fading … and America is falling into darkness.

Postscript: On "Freedom of Information Day" – in the middle of "Sunshine Week" – the Obama administration announced that White House emails are not subject to freedom of information requests, and urged that a whole new category of information be kept secret from the American people.

Orwell would be proud.

 

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Sat, 03/28/2015 - 16:03 | 5937575 VWAndy
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Ah yes the double standard. Hold them to the same standard for one year an the entier planet would be changed. For the better.

Sat, 03/28/2015 - 12:27 | 5937031 strannick
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Keep it up, GW.

Facts are facts.

Sat, 03/28/2015 - 10:14 | 5936764 Shitgum Suicide
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Still at it eh Georgie porge? One of your first pieces of "evidence" was a link to your own site which had a link that was.....to your own site. Imagine that.

Finally tracking down the actual source it shows the true story of an Islamic charity claiming that the bush administration was spying on them.

http://archive.wtsp.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=67898

I don't mind you being a paid shill but get a more appropriate avatar and name. You're about as transparent as the condom you let Putin use on you.
You really are a piece of work . And by work I mean shit.

If u were just some poster in the comment section I wouldn't give you the time of day other than to rebut and move on. However you are a contributor, not of financial info that we seek, but of political propaganda under the guise of being for America with your GW avatar.

Live short and piss off you wanker!!!

Sat, 03/28/2015 - 17:42 | 5937779 Clarabell
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Did you even read the article asshole. GW is reporting on an article by Glenn Greenwald in the Intercept. All well documented. Smarten up Shitgums shithead.

Sat, 03/28/2015 - 11:43 | 5936799 Prober
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We know who they are and where they are, and the longer they defecate, the more supporters and followers we identify and track. The islamic cult-worshiping vermin at the GW impostor site are helping us with the garbage collection by gathering the garbage around them :-)))

Hey GW impostor scum, do you hear the soft distant purring of a drone yet ???

Sat, 03/28/2015 - 11:44 | 5936727 Prober
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I hope that those bad boys in government pick up all you anti-America islamic-cult worshiping vermin at the GW impostor site and stuff you into a deep dark Guantanahole !

Sat, 03/28/2015 - 19:47 | 5938084 TradingTroll
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  • Who let this ISIS backed Syrian asylum seeker in?
Sat, 03/28/2015 - 09:17 | 5936691 Griffin
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I think that the true nature of politics has been hidden in darkness for a very long time.  We are just seeing how things work with more clarity than before.

Like for instance in the Icelandic crisis, there was a dispute between UK/NL and Iceland over so called Icesave accounts who were a part of an Icelandic bank called Landsbanki.

When the Landsbanki bank went bust Oct 08, the UK and NL authorities demanded a Icelandic state guarantee on the deposit guarantee fund that was supposed to back those deposits, and was of course as could be expected, empty.

When it became clear that the Icelandic state would not be overtaking the debts of this privately owned bank, a group of negotiators was sent to present a deal to Icelandic authorities.

The deal was shortly after leaked by Wikileaks, and it turned out to be more or less a deed to the country.  Then  this small but important leak tuned into a river, and everything got leaked. Like for instance a email where negotiation techniques are explained.

Apparently, it was customary that a member of the Parliament would be allowed to see the contract and read it, but not allowed to take it out of the room, then this document would be discussed in Parliament and subsequently be accepted.

Of course, this sparked a outrage in Iceland, and the Icelandic people blocked the parliament form making any such deals, kicked out the government, fired all 3 central bank governors and filed a law suit over this Icesave argument, and won.

This flood of leaks since the crisis began some 6 years ago has been absolutely golden.

Everything that can be done to amplify this way of thinking should be done, since this is our way of illuminating the darkest secrets and evil souls that keep them.

 

 

 

Sat, 03/28/2015 - 09:28 | 5936697 GuusjA
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In de optiek van de Saudische koning Salman is niet Allah, maar de Houthi-milities verantwoordelijk dat 'buitenlandse machten' de kans krijgen om de 'Logica van de 1' uit te rollen. Het Westen voert een war on terror, maar het probleem met moslimterroristen is dat niet alleen hun gewelddadige methode maar ook hun ideologische doel gevaarlijk is. Dat betoogt Maajid Nawaz, zelf ooit extremist, maar nu bevangen door het gedachtegoed van netwerk @SuperWil.

Sat, 03/28/2015 - 09:31 | 5936696 GuusjA
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In hotel GradjA bespreken wij de actuele ontwikkelingen en het lijkt erop dat de Saudische koning Salman ook in de gaten heeft gekregen, wat de 3e SpinozaGolf behelst. Netwerk @SuperWil is niets anders dan de interactie tussen de MACHT en het creatief bewustzijn van ... (is in Nederland nog staatsgeheim) ;)

 

http://www.volkskrant.nl/buitenland/voor-mededogen-is-geen-enkele-ruimte...

 

Voor mededogen met het psychosegeloof is geen enkele ruimte in de radicale geest van @SuperWil. Met goedkeuring van LinkeNout lanceerde partijleider en president Xi Jinping eind 2013 het plan voor een nieuwe institutionele bank als alternatief voor 'de TERROR van de DOLLAR'. 

 

http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2015/03/28/rutte-nederland-treedt-toe-tot-aziat...

 

De bedoeling is dat de bank in de eerste plaats grote infrastructuurprojecten in Azië gaat mede-financieren. De onderhandelingen over de opzet van de bank, de stemverhoudingen en de kapitalisering beginnen binnenkort als de datum voor de inschrijving (31 maart) is verstreken. China, dat het grootste deel van het kapitaal zal leveren, heeft al gezegd geen vetorecht te eisen.

 

http://www.neurope.eu/article/price-paradox#comment-1930995911

 

Sat, 03/28/2015 - 06:02 | 5936550 Gunga
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We the People should stop supporting the corruption and disgusting business as usual of the Federal government. Literally, . Truck drivers should refuse to deliver inside the Washington DC beltway. Business owner s of conscience should refuse to ship to addresses inside the DC beltway. Service providers that have the means to do so should not take work inside the DC beltway.

  We the People don't need to secede from our union. We just need to nullify and ignore the cess pool that is Washington DC.

Sat, 03/28/2015 - 01:27 | 5936414 Ohne Deckung
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The common demoniator of free fall and stories of humanity - there's no stop in the process provided.

Next chapter, epistemology, to begin with when the ambulances are running.

Thanks for the interim report.

Sat, 03/28/2015 - 00:34 | 5936366 FIAT CON
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Just get the files from the NSA or are they on her side? Hmm

 

Sat, 03/28/2015 - 00:19 | 5936345 Reaper
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On every courthouse entrance in the US should be engraved in stone, "Abandon all hope of justice, law and the constitution, ye who enter here. Justice is for sale, not to the highest bidder, but the the connected."

All ex parte acts by a judge are forbidden by the Code of Judicial Conduct, "A judge should accord to every person who has a legal interest in a proceeding, and that person’s lawyer, the full right to be heard according to law. Except as set out below, a judge should not initiate, permit, or consider ex parte communications or consider other communications concerning a pending or impending matter that are made outside the presence of the parties or their lawyers. If a judge receives an unauthorized ex parte communication bearing on the substance of a matter, the judge should promptly notify the parties of the subject matter of the communication and allow the parties an opportunity to respond, if requested." http://www.uscourts.gov/RulesAndPolicies/CodesOfConduct/CodeConductUnite...

State secrets is not a law, but rather a precedent from US vs Reynolds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Reynolds In GW's quoted case, the precedent used does not apply as this is not a claim against the US, which must be heard in the US Court of Claims. This case is in the Federal District Court.

But, as observed in the Second Federal Circuit, an honest judge has yet to be identified. The delusion of the sheeple is that courts follow laws and the Constitution. The courts are a cesspool of corruption as evidenced here in NY courts. http://exposecorruptcourts.blogspot.com/ Government secrecy as well as court corruption secrecy is the M.O. of our Ministry of Justice controlled media.

Justice in the USA is a fantasy.

Sat, 03/28/2015 - 05:55 | 5936545 GuusjA
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Netwerk @euHvR: "Not disrupt, but respect familiar places of protection and belonging – from national welfare choices, to regional traditions and identities, all the way down to local cheese."

 

http://www.neurope.eu/article/van-rompuy-receives-international-charlema...

 

@Harry_Dillema: "We mogen blij zijn dat we in een democratie leven en de handlangers van multinationals en banken zelf mogen kiezen".

 

http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2015/03/28/clinton-wiste-e-mails-van-haar-serve...

 

KroesendeNeelie mag aan de slag als adviseur bij Bank of America Merrill Lynch, om zo een voormalige bron van de 3e SpinozaGolf voor goud geld te VerLinken. Via NL11 ABNAS 0749 1590 49 was namelijk de code 'Game 0ver' doorgegeven en dus zijn de structuren van netwerk @euHvR geschiedenis.

 

KlaverenHeer: “RuitenVrouw heeft niet alleen zelf bepaald welke mails privé waren en welke niet, maar ze heeft daarna ook eigenhandig besloten om alle mails te wissen waardoor niet meer is te achterhalen of haar besluit de juiste was.”

 

http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2015/03/27/neelie-kroes-wordt-adviseur-bij-grot...

 

Harry Reid heeft al aan de VredeVrijheid-Direct-beweging duidelijk gemaakt dat de 64-jarige New Yorkse senator Schumer het meeste afweet van de volgende level van de 3e SpinozaGolf en hij d.m.v. (intiem) waarheiddelen met KroesenNeelie, zal ook netwerk @MinPres worden geïnformeerd over ...

Fri, 03/27/2015 - 20:59 | 5936014 pupdog1
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It looks like the Hildabeast wiped our her entire homemade server...

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/gowdy-clinton-wiped-her-server-cle...

 

This bitch needs to be wearing orange, and so does any congressman who intereferes with her prosecution.

Fri, 03/27/2015 - 22:13 | 5936136 are we there yet
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Homphrey Bogart with bandit in Siera Blanka:

"badges, we don need no stinkin badges'

Hillary is above the law. Next question?

Fri, 03/27/2015 - 21:25 | 5936052 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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LOL "prosecution" LOL

LOL "laws" LOL

We are very far past any of that, friend-o

Fri, 03/27/2015 - 21:13 | 5936031 George Washington
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+1

Fri, 03/27/2015 - 20:00 | 5935858 kchrisc
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Imagine being married to a secretive spouse.
You know nothing of their work, friends, or life, except they share a home with you.

The banksters need to repay us.

 

Trust us, we won't...

Sat, 03/28/2015 - 05:52 | 5936543 SmedleyButlersGhost
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My ex doesn't have to 'imagine'. And to your point - I was definitely up to no good.

Fri, 03/27/2015 - 19:40 | 5935799 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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That's nothing...hell, the CBC banned my comments on the CBC website!!!

 

NOTE: You know the World has gone to Hell-on-a-handcart when the pink-O Commies @ the CBC start banning website comments, eh. BILL C-51 is already enacted IMO.

Fri, 03/27/2015 - 20:18 | 5935909 loonyleft
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Bill C51 - so Harper's a commie too?

Sat, 03/28/2015 - 17:29 | 5937751 Clarabell
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Harper's not a Commie, Harper is a Fascist!

Fri, 03/27/2015 - 19:14 | 5935718 q99x2
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When the LAPD blocked off the section of the town I live in this week (about 6 blocks) I thought to myself this is preparation of marshall law and the NWO's take over of America by the NWO. The next thought was how do I get to my gold and silver? But I waited it out and after 2 hours I was able to get home. But its real. It is a form of warfare against American families and it is being waged by the treasonous traitors in Washington D.C. Not too worried because the police were reluctant to even put up the tape to block off the streets. The bankster globalists seem to be wasting their money.

Fri, 03/27/2015 - 22:02 | 5936115 pupdog1
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Not too worried because the police were reluctant to even put up the tape to block off the streets.

And yet they did.

Fri, 03/27/2015 - 19:07 | 5935701 ruh666
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this is interesting

Fri, 03/27/2015 - 19:41 | 5935801 will ling
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yes, but really anything we already don't know? question is, what shall be the remedy? too horrific for most to contemplate. fact is, the cost of real freedom is extremely high.

Fri, 03/27/2015 - 16:47 | 5934924 Goldilocks
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Trusted?...

Chain of custody
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_of_custody

~//~

TAINT SANDWICHES!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_6OgrtFCqM (1:00)

 

Fri, 03/27/2015 - 23:58 | 5936312 dexter_morgan
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She needs some Luma-Taint to brighten things up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmS0X8FlFvk

Fri, 03/27/2015 - 18:59 | 5935676 nmewn
Fri, 03/27/2015 - 15:20 | 5934906 Lone_Star
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I'm sorry, this just doesn't pass the smell test. There's no way obama's DOJ would help out anyone who was trying to discredit his legacy of brokering a deal with Iran, even though his deal is giving Iran nukes.

This is the most (non)Transparent administration ever, and the epitome of a JV Team, but they don't actively help the people exposing things they're doing wrong.

Sat, 03/28/2015 - 15:37 | 5937514 joeyman9
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You assume the Obama Administration has full control of the federal govt.  Actually, it's the bureacracy that runs things, the President makes it look legitimate.

Fri, 03/27/2015 - 22:47 | 5936205 lopilondy
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Often, I agree that things posted here don't pass the smell test.  However, in this case, the story is coming from real, respected journalists, citing real sources. 

Fri, 03/27/2015 - 20:51 | 5935991 dreadnaught
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Iran needs nukes to stave of Israels coming attack/invasion-with their 300 odd nukes-after they finish killing off ALL the Palestinians and take all their farms and land-Iran is next on the list

Fri, 03/27/2015 - 20:03 | 5935865 kchrisc
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"obama's DOJ"

For those that know, it is Zion's DOJ.

The banksters need to repay us.

 

Follow the strings, see the puppeteers.

Fri, 03/27/2015 - 19:47 | 5935823 Old Poor Richard
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Lone_Star, you're just wrong about that.  Obama is a neocon, and in this narrow case he seems to be trying to do something his fellow neocons are pissed off about.  But he's still on THEIR team even if they are undermining his negotiations.  Keep your eye on the big picture, not what the talking heads say on TV. 

Sat, 03/28/2015 - 10:50 | 5936821 The Joker
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There is a fine line between neoliberal and neoconservative.  Obama is the former.  Neolibs are fascists that believe imperialism is the only way forward.  The geopolitical strategy of neocons is to prevent other nations from becoming more powerful than they.  Although, often the end result is the same, countries left in shambles. 

For example, a year before Obama man was in office, he was literally in office with bush and cheney strategizing what to do with Pakistan.   Obama said we should invade them and Bush and Cheney said "you're crazy!".  Nevermind the predestined curiosity of Obama planning in the war room before he was president, but if Cheney calls you crazy, you're fucking crazy. 

Obama is not a neocon, he is a corporate crony fascist imperialist who obeys what Soros and ZB tell him.

Sat, 03/28/2015 - 19:38 | 5938063 Crisismode
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Alex Jones much?

 

Sat, 03/28/2015 - 21:39 | 5938301 The Joker
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Can't stand him.  Globalresearch.ca

Fri, 03/27/2015 - 20:49 | 5935987 ZerOhead
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Robert Kagan has fired off several blistering attacks against Obama over the past year calling him "weak".

In an interview last year with the New York Times, Nuland indicated that she shared her husband’s criticism of President Obama for his hesitancy to use American power more assertively. Referring to Kagan’s public attacks on Obama’s more restrained “realist” foreign policy, Nuland said, “suffice to say … that nothing goes out of the house that I don’t think is worthy of his talents. Let’s put it that way.”

https://consortiumnews.com/2015/03/11/nulands-mastery-of-ukraine-propaga...

So here you have an Assistant Secretary of State who for all intents and purposes RUNS the department at THE PRESIDENTS DISCRETION.

My guess is that most days Obama fetches her coffee...

Fri, 03/27/2015 - 21:14 | 5936035 George Washington
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He might fetch her more than coffee:

NEOCON SHE WOLF

Credit: Banzai

Sat, 03/28/2015 - 01:42 | 5936429 ZerOhead
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Nice tits

Shame about the face...

Sat, 03/28/2015 - 13:30 | 5937201 COSMOS
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She has Bette Davis eyes lol.

Fri, 03/27/2015 - 15:44 | 5934988 George Washington
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The pleading is set forth at the bottom of Greenwald's article. Take a look for yourself.

The government might be playing all sides ...

Fri, 03/27/2015 - 20:37 | 5935957 ZerOhead
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GW... Orwell would NOT be proud.

Now Goebbels or Cheney on the other hand...

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